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Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:03:00 -
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Am I the only one that's starting to get a little irritated by the constant hot "fixes" with no sp refunds? it's like, **** everything I had to grind for over months, screw carefully and strategically placing all that hard earned sp into what personally works for me. Trying to enjoy this game but ccp is making it a chore. I don't care if the game is free and feels like an experiment of their first foray into the fps genre, these are really ****** game design choices, folks have bought enough aur and put enough time into this game to deserve a bit better treatment than "**** you, it's our free game"
Though in the back of my head i feel like this is a balancing thing...but you do not totally change the properties of each race and not give a refund. I went caldari for the precision cus it's something I really wanted, even maxed out my precision enhancer modules...now it doesnt mean a damn thing.
Cannot wait till Destiny comes out. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2422
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:08:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote:Am I the only one that's starting to get a little irritated by the constant hot "fixes" with no sp refunds? it's like, **** everything I had to grind for over months, screw carefully and strategically placing all that hard earned sp into what personally works for me. Trying to enjoy this game but ccp is making it a chore. I don't care if the game is free and feels like an experiment of their first foray into the fps genre, these are really ****** game design choices, folks have bought enough aur and put enough time into this game to deserve a bit better treatment than "**** you, it's our free game"
Though in the back of my head i feel like this is a balancing thing...but you do not totally change the properties of each race and not give a refund. I went caldari for the precision cus it's something I really wanted, even maxed out my precision enhancer modules...now it doesnt mean a damn thing.
Cannot wait till Destiny comes out.
I cannot wait till Destiny comes out so we can wish you a fond farewell!
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Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:15:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Rush Inamras wrote:Am I the only one that's starting to get a little irritated by the constant hot "fixes" with no sp refunds? it's like, **** everything I had to grind for over months, screw carefully and strategically placing all that hard earned sp into what personally works for me. Trying to enjoy this game but ccp is making it a chore. I don't care if the game is free and feels like an experiment of their first foray into the fps genre, these are really ****** game design choices, folks have bought enough aur and put enough time into this game to deserve a bit better treatment than "**** you, it's our free game"
Though in the back of my head i feel like this is a balancing thing...but you do not totally change the properties of each race and not give a refund. I went caldari for the precision cus it's something I really wanted, even maxed out my precision enhancer modules...now it doesnt mean a damn thing.
Cannot wait till Destiny comes out. I cannot wait till Destiny comes out so we can wish you a fond farewell!
well, GOOD ...stick with your ever changing upredictable game that cares less about your decisions...i'm going triple A halo >: D please bring the red carpet
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Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:16:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Rush Inamras wrote:Am I the only one that's starting to get a little irritated by the constant hot "fixes" with no sp refunds? it's like, **** everything I had to grind for over months, screw carefully and strategically placing all that hard earned sp into what personally works for me. Trying to enjoy this game but ccp is making it a chore. I don't care if the game is free and feels like an experiment of their first foray into the fps genre, these are really ****** game design choices, folks have bought enough aur and put enough time into this game to deserve a bit better treatment than "**** you, it's our free game"
Though in the back of my head i feel like this is a balancing thing...but you do not totally change the properties of each race and not give a refund. I went caldari for the precision cus it's something I really wanted, even maxed out my precision enhancer modules...now it doesnt mean a damn thing.
Cannot wait till Destiny comes out. I cannot wait till Destiny comes out so we can wish you a fond farewell!
well, GOOD ...stick with your ever changing upredictable game that cares less about your decisions...i'm going triple A halo >: D please bring the red carpet
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3012
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:21:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote: well, GOOD ...stick with your ever changing upredictable game that cares less about your decisions...i'm going triple A halo >: D please bring the red carpet
Yes, life is much less scary if things are always the same and never change. I want a game where I can spec into something overpowered and never have them take it away from me! Stop balance! Stop making things reasonable! Stop improving overall quality of the game! Make Flavor of the Month, Flavor of the FOREVER! IM PETER DINKLAGE AND THIS IS OUR DESTINY!
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1941
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:21:00 -
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While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2425
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:23:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely.
sympathy level: Zero. |
Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:33:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Rush Inamras wrote: well, GOOD ...stick with your ever changing upredictable game that cares less about your decisions...i'm going triple A halo >: D please bring the red carpet
Yes, life is much less scary if things are always the same and never change. I want a game where I can spec into something overpowered and never have them take it away from me! Stop balance! Stop making things reasonable! Stop improving overall quality of the game! Make Flavor of the Month, Flavor of the FOREVER! IM PETER DINKLAGE AND THIS IS OUR DESTINY!
Balancing is one thing, completely altering race stats without warning is another, and flavor of the month is just to keep the tryhards entertained and feel on top, also, weapons are usually the op things as of late, not so much the classes ..if you wanna troll at least be smart about it. but i digress...you can be a ninny and tell yourself these things all day. doesnt change my opinion of them not caring about the player choices in what's supposed to be a very choice driven game run by the community.
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Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:35:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely. sympathy level: Zero.
Dude no point to you being here...stop looking dumb
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3014
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:37:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote: Balancing is one thing, completely altering race stats without warning is another, and flavor of the month is just to keep the tryhards entertained and feel on top, also, weapons are usually the op things as of late, not so much the classes ..if you wanna troll at least be smart about it. but i digress...you can be a ninny and tell yourself these things all day. doesnt change my opinion of them not caring about the player choices in what's supposed to be a very choice driven game run by the community.
I specced into Caldari Scout because I wanted a long range scanning platform, cause you know, Caldari are long range and all that jazz so....
How did they change that role? |
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Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:38:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely.
Yeah and there's where my problem is, I mained caldari it wasnt flavor of the month and i never felt op in the suit, I picked it for the disticnt want for precision. now it's been completely removed and given to the amarr and gallente classes. and I didnt so much mind the tweaks, what pissed me off was where the tweaks were sent. |
ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:39:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely. When all weapons are balanced an sp refund wouldnt matter, right? Unless its really not balanced. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2428
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:40:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote: Dude no point to you being here...stop looking dumb
People like you keep talking and saying stupid things, like "the FOTM chasers should get a respec"
Kinda hard to resist the temptation to come in and weigh in. |
Glitch116
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
140
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:40:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely.
as a cal scout my fits and roles never changed nothing changed about how you play the cal scout it just got rebalanced to fit with the rest of the suits the only time i could ok a respec is when basic content is add (as in racial vehicles) or if a suits role is completely changed
and since the cal scout didnt change no to respec mate learn to use the cal scout
I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!!
deal with it
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Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:40:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Rush Inamras wrote: Balancing is one thing, completely altering race stats without warning is another, and flavor of the month is just to keep the tryhards entertained and feel on top, also, weapons are usually the op things as of late, not so much the classes ..if you wanna troll at least be smart about it. but i digress...you can be a ninny and tell yourself these things all day. doesnt change my opinion of them not caring about the player choices in what's supposed to be a very choice driven game run by the community.
I specced into Caldari Scout because I wanted a long range scanning platform, cause you know, Caldari are long range and all that jazz so.... How did they change that role?
stop baiting trolls...is it too much for an actual discussion?
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Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:42:00 -
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Glitch116 wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely. as a cal scout my fits and roles never changed nothing changed about how you play the cal scout it just got rebalanced to fit with the rest of the suits the only time i could ok a respec is when basic content is add (as in racial vehicles) or if a suits role is completely changed and since the cal scout didnt change no to respec mate learn to use the cal scout
I main cal scouts too dude..and i personally notice the lack of precision unless im proto with 3 complex pre-enhancers...I dunno how you play them, though.
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SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
712
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:43:00 -
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NO... |
Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:44:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Rush Inamras wrote: Dude no point to you being here...stop looking dumb
People like you keep talking and saying stupid things, like "the FOTM chasers should get a respec" Kinda hard to resist the temptation to come in and weigh in.
No im saying i dont approve of radical class role changes...stop over analyzing...we know you're way past smart.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3014
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:44:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Rush Inamras wrote: Balancing is one thing, completely altering race stats without warning is another, and flavor of the month is just to keep the tryhards entertained and feel on top, also, weapons are usually the op things as of late, not so much the classes ..if you wanna troll at least be smart about it. but i digress...you can be a ninny and tell yourself these things all day. doesnt change my opinion of them not caring about the player choices in what's supposed to be a very choice driven game run by the community.
I specced into Caldari Scout because I wanted a long range scanning platform, cause you know, Caldari are long range and all that jazz so.... How did they change that role? stop baiting trolls...is it too much for an actual discussion?
It's an honest question, because for me, they didn't change anything, so I don't see an issue.
You on the other hand are upset because they "change the role" that YOU defined the role to be. So it comes down to a matter of opinion of what the role of the Caldari scout actually is. You say its high precision scanning, I say I long range scanning. So which one of us is right? |
SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
712
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:44:00 -
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Cal Scout is fine. I love it. I spent all the same SP, and it still works great. |
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
796
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:45:00 -
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You've got four high slots, use them. The Caldari scout is still excellent at precision, it's just not the master in that roll anymore. It is, however, still one of the best scouts in the game.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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taxi bastard
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
232
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:47:00 -
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to be fair the only difference for the caldari is a precision enhancer in the highs instead of a tank mod which is a good thing.
i think the caldari scout got off light as if you look at the rest of the suits mini has more PG than caldari. i know the QQ would have been epic but i think that your lucky the CPU and PG of the mini and caldari suits did not get changed if your a caldari scout user.
honestly i don't see what the bitching is all about? although slightly weekend its still a top tier suit. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
1081
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:49:00 -
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OP thinks complex precision is useless on the scout with the best range
Thinks OP is a n00b scout
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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taxi bastard
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
232
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:51:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely. Yeah and there's where my problem is, I mained caldari it wasnt flavor of the month and i never felt op in the suit, I picked it for the disticnt want for precision. now it's been completely removed and given to the amarr and gallente classes. and I didnt so much mind the tweaks, what pissed me off was where the tweaks were sent. Like what was really the point of robbing the caldari scout completely of it's sight?
dude i mean really? robbing the caldari suit of its sight? unless you have not figured it out there is precision enhancers. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2428
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:54:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Rush Inamras wrote: Dude no point to you being here...stop looking dumb
People like you keep talking and saying stupid things, like "the FOTM chasers should get a respec" Kinda hard to resist the temptation to come in and weigh in. No im saying i dont approve of radical class role changes...stop over analyzing...we know you're way past smart.
I ain't analyzing sh*t.
You're the one complaining that it's unfair that Cal Scouts have to choose between awesome vision, gank or tank. Sounds like they're performing as intended and I still find myself getting killed by the little bastards so they arent exactly annihilated wholesale.
Or is it you want to be able to do everything? |
Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:55:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Cal Scout is fine. I love it. I spent all the same SP, and it still works great.
Well yeah they're still good, i do good with it, i could have been good with any scout class. my point IIIISSS that I spec'd into them for their PRECISION. perhaps you're more lacadaisacle about it, but it was the only reason i spent a mil+ isk on precision |
Glitch116
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
140
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:55:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote:Glitch116 wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely. as a cal scout my fits and roles never changed nothing changed about how you play the cal scout it just got rebalanced to fit with the rest of the suits the only time i could ok a respec is when basic content is add (as in racial vehicles) or if a suits role is completely changed and since the cal scout didnt change no to respec mate learn to use the cal scout I main cal scouts too dude..and i personally notice the lack of precision unless im proto with 3 complex pre-enhancers...I dunno how you play them, though.
my work horse fits at advanced is 1 complex extender 2 complex percision 1 complex kincat 1 complex damp cloak smg
for rifles i go to 2 extenders 1 persicion 1 damp 1 range cloak compact Scp
works great you just got to learn to spot cloakys with your eyes i dont have problems fighting people getting under my scans
I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!!
deal with it
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2428
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:56:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Cal Scout is fine. I love it. I spent all the same SP, and it still works great. Well yeah they're still good, i do good with it, i could have been good with any scout class. my point IIIISSS that I spec'd into them for their PRECISION. perhaps you're more lacadaisacle about it, but it was the only reason i spent a mil+ isk on precision
So fit the precision enhancers. It's what they're there for. |
Rush Inamras
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:57:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Rush Inamras wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Rush Inamras wrote: Dude no point to you being here...stop looking dumb
People like you keep talking and saying stupid things, like "the FOTM chasers should get a respec" Kinda hard to resist the temptation to come in and weigh in. No im saying i dont approve of radical class role changes...stop over analyzing...we know you're way past smart. I ain't analyzing sh*t. You're the one complaining that it's unfair that Cal Scouts have to choose between awesome vision, gank or tank. Sounds like they're performing as intended and I still find myself getting killed by the little bastards so they arent exactly annihilated wholesale. Or is it you want to be able to do everything?
ooohh...so bold all of a sudden
and no...my point is still that i don't like the complete race class change, im still good as a scout, but i could be good with any scout, i choose cal for their specialty...is it getting through to you yet?
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2428
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:59:00 -
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Yeah it got through a while ago. I just find this logic loop amusing. |
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