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Rush Inamras wrote:

Glitch116 wrote:

Rush Inamras wrote:

Glitch116 wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely.

as a cal scout my fits and roles never changed
nothing changed about how you play the cal scout it just got rebalanced to fit with the rest of the suits
the only time i could ok a respec is when basic content is add (as in racial vehicles)
or if a suits role is completely changed

and since the cal scout didnt change no to respec mate learn to use the cal scout

I main cal scouts too dude..and i personally notice the lack of precision unless im proto with 3 complex pre-enhancers...I dunno how you play them, though.

my work horse fits at advanced is
1 complex extender
2 complex percision
1 complex kincat
1 complex damp
cloak
smg

for rifles i go to
2 extenders
1 persicion
1 damp
1 range
cloak
compact
Scp

works great you just got to learn to spot cloakys with your eyes
i dont have problems fighting people getting under my scans

Cloaky's are never a problem, i mean gallente used to be but since they're been somewhat nerfed in the hiding aspect, easy to spot them all, but even with both your fit, which are similar to mine, a few of my contacts do not show up on the radar like they used too, like i said only equivalent is when i go proto with 3 complex, precisions, and im a person that likes to set up R.E traps


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Glitch116 Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 140	Posted - 2014.08.30 19:40:00 - [1] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely. as a cal scout my fits and roles never changed nothing changed about how you play the cal scout it just got rebalanced to fit with the rest of the suits the only time i could ok a respec is when basic content is add (as in racial vehicles) or if a suits role is completely changed and since the cal scout didnt change no to respec mate learn to use the cal scout I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it
Glitch116 Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 140	Posted - 2014.08.30 19:55:00 - [2] - Quote Rush Inamras wrote: Glitch116 wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely. as a cal scout my fits and roles never changed nothing changed about how you play the cal scout it just got rebalanced to fit with the rest of the suits the only time i could ok a respec is when basic content is add (as in racial vehicles) or if a suits role is completely changed and since the cal scout didnt change no to respec mate learn to use the cal scout I main cal scouts too dude..and i personally notice the lack of precision unless im proto with 3 complex pre-enhancers...I dunno how you play them, though. my work horse fits at advanced is 1 complex extender 2 complex percision 1 complex kincat 1 complex damp cloak smg for rifles i go to 2 extenders 1 persicion 1 damp 1 range cloak compact Scp works great you just got to learn to spot cloakys with your eyes i dont have problems fighting people getting under my scans I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it
Glitch116 Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 140	Posted - 2014.08.30 20:34:00 - [3] - Quote Rush Inamras wrote: Glitch116 wrote: Rush Inamras wrote: Glitch116 wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: While I don't agree with refunding SP for things like rebalancing weapons, I agree that there should have been a refund for Cal scouts after their change. They completely respeciallized the scout, changing its role completely. as a cal scout my fits and roles never changed nothing changed about how you play the cal scout it just got rebalanced to fit with the rest of the suits the only time i could ok a respec is when basic content is add (as in racial vehicles) or if a suits role is completely changed and since the cal scout didnt change no to respec mate learn to use the cal scout I main cal scouts too dude..and i personally notice the lack of precision unless im proto with 3 complex pre-enhancers...I dunno how you play them, though. my work horse fits at advanced is 1 complex extender 2 complex percision 1 complex kincat 1 complex damp cloak smg for rifles i go to 2 extenders 1 persicion 1 damp 1 range cloak compact Scp works great you just got to learn to spot cloakys with your eyes i dont have problems fighting people getting under my scans Cloaky's are never a problem, i mean gallente used to be but since they're been somewhat nerfed in the hiding aspect, easy to spot them all, but even with both your fit, which are similar to mine, a few of my contacts do not show up on the radar like they used too, like i said only equivalent is when i go proto with 3 complex, precisions, and im a person that likes to set up R.E traps while it is true that you dont pick things up like before being able to pick up almost every fit was too much the reason the cal lost its percision was because of its highslot lay out to stack percision on top of the bonus my shotty fit up there could see every single minie, amarr, cal, and low end gal scouts and that is at advanced with only 2 mods it was to much for one suit to be able to shut down some many people we have to accept that you cant see everything with passives alone I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it
Glitch116 Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 140	Posted - 2014.08.31 06:37:00 - [4] - Quote Rush Inamras wrote: while it is true that you dont pick things up like before being able to pick up almost every fit was too much the reason the cal lost its percision was because of its highslot lay out to stack percision on top of the bonus my shotty fit up there could see every single minie, amarr, cal, and low end gal scouts and that is at advanced with only 2 mods it was to much for one suit to be able to shut down some many people we have to accept that you cant see everything with passives alone I mean i'm not gonna lie, am a bit mad at losing all that sight, and yeah i felt a little OP though I didnt pick the cal for being op, i was just allured by being able to see, and i never felt totally OP, cus there were heavies, gallente, and all around really good players that would stomp me sometimes, but that wasnt my main issue. I would not be complaining if they had just nerfed the precision, that's fine, I understand that was a balancing thing. what grinds my gears is the role switching, it's not like the precision was taken away, it was given inexplicably to other classes that didnt ask for it and it's not what they spec'd into, and they took away what i spec'd into, and other than the devs just being uncertain hacks, I don't know why they completely removed the sight and gave it to two other scout classes[/quote] the reason the gal and amarr got the persicion bouns is because they have only 2 high slots to make do with this prevents them from getting the super low scan the cal could the cal scout still has the highest number of high slot to use for persicion mods it can still work and perform the same role THE ROLE OF THE CAL SCOUT NEVER CHANGED the amarr scout needed a role so it got some help in the regards but the cal scout is still a percsion large area scan platform that it has always been CCP didnt switch roles they just rebalanced things so that the other suits could get a niche as well I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it