Add a countdown timer in ally redline for players to leave it - - otherwise kick 'em from the battle. Make the countdown something like 30 seconds. While this won't fix redline snipers, it'll help.

Add a countdown timer in ally redline for players to leave it - - otherwise kick 'em from the battle. Make the countdown something like 30 seconds. While this won't fix redline snipers, it'll help.

You can't even RUN any of the fatsuits out of a starter area fast enough to adhere to this deadline.

You gotta be careful with this, since in many cases when calling in a vehicle, RDV congestion/glitching can cause excessive wait time. I'd be pretty pissed if I was kicked from battle while my LAV yoyo's at the ground base for 45 seconds.

Hmm, this is true. One way I can think to fix this is to add pilot suits, lock them to wearing only sidearms, and allow them to stay in redline for extended periods of time.

Other thoughts?

That doesn't really help the Heavy who is calling in a LAV so it doesnt need to spend the next 3 minutes jogging to the objective on foot..

Heavies can wait for spawns.

Add a countdown timer in ally redline for players to leave it - - otherwise kick 'em from the battle. Make the countdown something like 30 seconds. While this won't fix redline snipers, it'll help.

Ah isn't this cute? Another lame FPS player that is unable to function in New Eden? This topic has been raised so many times there is no number in forum history that can actually represent it anymore.

The red line is their solution to not having safe spawn points, it is different. Which is why you don't like it, one might hazard a guess.

Yeah, no.

So ever suit that isn't a scout should be waiting? Aside from Scouts, pretty much every suit class calls in some form of a vehicle in order to make the initial push simply because it's the fastest means to get there.

I had an idea to make it so enemies won't render for redline snipers but I'm not sure if it's possible or if it would even work properly.

You can't even RUN any of the fatsuits out of a starter area fast enough to adhere to this deadline.

If an assault, logi, or even commando can't get out of the redline in 30 seconds, they SHOUD be kicked from the battle. To be honest, if a heavy can't get out in 30 seconds, they should be removed. I guess it can be 60 seconds.

Add a countdown timer in ally redline for players to leave it - - otherwise kick 'em from the battle. Make the countdown something like 30 seconds. While this won't fix redline snipers, it'll help.

>get redlined early in the match
>npc corp team mates running nothing but MLT fits
>can't escape the redline
>get kicked trying to escape
>lose suits and isk
>Dust loses more newer players

Genius idea i see nothing wrong with this very well thought out idea.

Better idea?
Reduce all damage going into/inside or out of the redline.95% should work.

Add a countdown timer in ally redline for players to leave it - - otherwise kick 'em from the battle. Make the countdown something like 30 seconds. While this won't fix redline snipers, it'll help.

. . . engage brain . . .

No. And for a good reason.

There have been some situations in some matches where fighting in the redline can't be helped. Usually it occurs when the opposing force either out numbers your and/or uses far superior gear.

Now if we were to implement your cooldown and combine it with being pushed into your own redline by a superior force, it would mean that ALL of your team, including yourself will either have to suicide before the 30 seconds, somehow try to break through the enemy lines and survive, or be kicked from battle.

Most noobs WILL NOT step out of the comfort of the red zone when in a situation like this. So in pub matches half your team will be kicked. And your chances of winning the match become much slimmer.

Yeah, kicked is the wrong way to do it. Death is more appropriate.

I suggested making the redline a complete safe zoneGǪno firing in or out..completely safe for regrouping or what have you with a timer that encourages you to get out of the redline in a certain amount of time or you suicide.

But I like the idea of just reducing damage as well.

I predicated this idea upon matches where you -are- redlined either initiate a window for you to capture an objective or lose the match that is tied to the redline timer, or when redlined it just speeds up the damage done to the MCC so the battle ends quickerGǪsimilar to battlefield tickets winding down faster in a similar losing effort in BF.

not made for this but it does end up having the benefit of preventing redline afkGÇÖing and sniping or tanking.

I'd actually prefer the removal of the redline in favor of shifted spawns in over time. The redline can be a safe zone but if you'r going to get pounded everyone will end up giving up and stick around there until match ends.

Resistance 2 had this concept implemented as a way of randomizing spawn but also ensuring teams can't simply hold a specific position and "box in" the other side. They had to literally hold an objective and make a barrier of troops. It would also forcibly make suits into more "hard positions". Yeah you're scout can still scout but they can't really go around and Nova Knife everyone or go solely for stealth kills. Logis would have an incentive to do the support role for points and assault + heavies would be more situated for their intended roles.

The general point is that once spawning is "predictable" you can counter it very effectively. Once its random you can't just win by boxing in someone. It has to be a match and anteing the odds a bit also means more challenge for either side.

I suggested making the redline a complete safe zoneGǪno firing in or out..completely safe for regrouping or what have you with a timer that encourages you to get out of the redline in a certain amount of time or you suicide.

But I like the idea of just reducing damage as well.

I predicated this idea upon matches where you -are- redlined either initiate a window for you to capture an objective or lose the match that is tied to the redline timer, or when redlined it just speeds up the damage done to the MCC so the battle ends quickerGǪsimilar to battlefield tickets winding down faster in a similar losing effort in BF.

not made for this but it does end up having the benefit of preventing redline afkGÇÖing and sniping or tanking.

I'd actually prefer the removal of the redline in favor of shifted spawns in over time. The redline can be a safe zone but if you'r going to get pounded everyone will end up giving up and stick around there until match ends.

Resistance 2 had this concept implemented as a way of randomizing spawn but also ensuring teams can't simply hold a specific position and "box in" the other side. They had to literally hold an objective and make a barrier of troops. It would also forcibly make suits into more "hard positions". Yeah you're scout can still scout but they can't really go around and Nova Knife everyone or go solely for stealth kills. Logis would have an incentive to do the support role for points and assault + heavies would be more situated for their intended roles.

The general point is that once spawning is "predictable" you can counter it very effectively. Once its random you can't just win by boxing in someone. It has to be a match and anteing the odds a bit also means more challenge for either side.

I could abuse this.