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Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 415	Posted - 2014.08.23 17:47:00 - [1] - Quote With the heat buildup increase, the assault scrambler is not even worth using anymore. The amarr commando is my favorite suit but I find myself not even wanting to use it anymore. Now it's hard to kill a gallente medium frame without overheating... I used to be able to stand a chance against heavies I got the drop on but now I over heat when they have half armor. Please CCP revert the assault scrambler back to pre-Charlie. The weapon is bad now compared to the semi-auto Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
VikingKong iBUN 2.U.P 129	Posted - 2014.08.23 17:53:00 - [2] - Quote Back to when it's heat buildup was so low that it didn't overheat at all? I'm pretty sure that it not overheating was a bug, not a feature.
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 416	Posted - 2014.08.23 17:57:00 - [3] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: Back to when it's heat buildup was so low that it didn't overheat at all? I'm pretty sure that it not overheating was a bug, not a feature. I overheated it in my commando just after 1 clip. If you weren't in a commando suit it would overheat just before 2 clips. That was perfect because of time it took to reload Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1141	Posted - 2014.08.23 18:36:00 - [4] - Quote Lol the ASCR didn't even overheat during it's first clip of continuous fire, Just because a weapon isn't OP doesn't mean it's useless...well suppose that depends on the person. If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3899	Posted - 2014.08.23 18:40:00 - [5] - Quote It was impossible to overheat in one mag, and crazy easy to avoid the overheat in any suit. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 416	Posted - 2014.08.23 18:57:00 - [6] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: Lol the ASCR didn't even overheat during it's first clip of continuous fire, Just because a weapon isn't OP doesn't mean it's useless...well suppose that depends on the person. So the 1 automatic rifle in the game that overheats has to over in less than a clip? Does your AR overheat? Does your combat rifle overheat? Does your rail rifle overheat? The ASCR has the lowest DPS of all the rifles because everyone armor tanks their suits. And on top of that, it has to overheat in less than a clip. 80% of 35.75 is what it does to an armor suit. It needs to change Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2992	Posted - 2014.08.23 19:02:00 - [7] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Lol the ASCR didn't even overheat during it's first clip of continuous fire, Just because a weapon isn't OP doesn't mean it's useless...well suppose that depends on the person. So the 1 automatic rifle in the game that overheats has to over in less than a clip? Does your AR overheat? Does your combat rifle overheat? Does your rail rifle overheat? The ASCR has the lowest DPS of all the rifles because everyone armor tanks their suits. And on top of that, it has to overheat in less than a clip. 80% of 35.75 is what it does to an armor suit. It needs to change The assault rifle does in fact overheat it just more shots than the clip size so only the Krin's and Balac's overheat. Tanker/Logi/Assault
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 416	Posted - 2014.08.23 19:08:00 - [8] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Lol the ASCR didn't even overheat during it's first clip of continuous fire, Just because a weapon isn't OP doesn't mean it's useless...well suppose that depends on the person. So the 1 automatic rifle in the game that overheats has to over in less than a clip? Does your AR overheat? Does your combat rifle overheat? Does your rail rifle overheat? The ASCR has the lowest DPS of all the rifles because everyone armor tanks their suits. And on top of that, it has to overheat in less than a clip. 80% of 35.75 is what it does to an armor suit. It needs to change The assault rifle does in fact overheat it just more shots than the clip size so only the Krin's and Balac's overheat. Exactly...it takes almost 90 shots....yet the ASCR now overheats at 49-51 bullets. Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3899	Posted - 2014.08.23 19:25:00 - [9] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Lol the ASCR didn't even overheat during it's first clip of continuous fire, Just because a weapon isn't OP doesn't mean it's useless...well suppose that depends on the person. So the 1 automatic rifle in the game that overheats has to over in less than a clip? Does your AR overheat? Does your combat rifle overheat? Does your rail rifle overheat? The ASCR has the lowest DPS of all the rifles because everyone armor tanks their suits. And on top of that, it has to overheat in less than a clip. 80% of 35.75 is what it does to an armor suit. It needs to change The assault rifle does in fact overheat it just more shots than the clip size so only the Krin's and Balac's overheat. Exactly...it takes almost 90 shots....yet the ASCR now overheats at 49-51 bullets. Ok, then can we drop the dmg and magazine down to AR levels? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 416	Posted - 2014.08.23 19:28:00 - [10] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Lol the ASCR didn't even overheat during it's first clip of continuous fire, Just because a weapon isn't OP doesn't mean it's useless...well suppose that depends on the person. So the 1 automatic rifle in the game that overheats has to over in less than a clip? Does your AR overheat? Does your combat rifle overheat? Does your rail rifle overheat? The ASCR has the lowest DPS of all the rifles because everyone armor tanks their suits. And on top of that, it has to overheat in less than a clip. 80% of 35.75 is what it does to an armor suit. It needs to change The assault rifle does in fact overheat it just more shots than the clip size so only the Krin's and Balac's overheat. Exactly...it takes almost 90 shots....yet the ASCR now overheats at 49-51 bullets. Ok, then can we drop the dmg and magazine down to AR levels? Read my edit...that's why we can't...the carthum does 28.6 damage to armor. That is pathetic. If you reduce the damage even more, it will be complete trash. It was fine pre-Charlie Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3935	Posted - 2014.08.23 20:27:00 - [11] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Exactly...it takes almost 90 shots....yet the ASCR now overheats at 49-51 bullets. My goodness it's like 63 or 67 not 90 lol B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 417	Posted - 2014.08.23 20:50:00 - [12] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Exactly...it takes almost 90 shots....yet the ASCR now overheats at 49-51 bullets. My goodness it's like 63 or 67 not 90 lol I apologize. My point was its more than a normal clip. I don't use ARs. I only use scramblers and it makes me angry when my main weapon is unnecessarily nerfed. Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3936	Posted - 2014.08.23 21:56:00 - [13] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: I apologize. My point was its more than a normal clip. I don't use ARs. I only use scramblers and it makes me angry when my main weapon is unnecessarily nerfed. Listen, I will pick up my assault scrambler and check it out. I wasn't aware assault scrambler users were unimpressed. I'll get back to you. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 228	Posted - 2014.08.23 22:28:00 - [14] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Lol the ASCR didn't even overheat during it's first clip of continuous fire, Just because a weapon isn't OP doesn't mean it's useless...well suppose that depends on the person. So the 1 automatic rifle in the game that overheats has to over in less than a clip? Does your AR overheat? Does your combat rifle overheat? Does your rail rifle overheat? The ASCR has the lowest DPS of all the rifles because everyone armor tanks their suits. And on top of that, it has to overheat in less than a clip. 80% of 35.75 is what it does to an armor suit. It needs to change The assault rifle does in fact overheat it just more shots than the clip size so only the Krin's and Balac's overheat. Exactly...it takes almost 90 shots....yet the ASCR now overheats at 49-51 bullets. Ok, then can we drop the dmg and magazine down to AR levels? And the reload speed
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 417	Posted - 2014.08.23 22:30:00 - [15] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: I apologize. My point was its more than a normal clip. I don't use ARs. I only use scramblers and it makes me angry when my main weapon is unnecessarily nerfed. Listen, I will pick up my assault scrambler and check it out. I wasn't aware assault scrambler users were unimpressed. I'll get back to you. It's appreciated Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 417	Posted - 2014.08.23 22:31:00 - [16] - Quote And the reload speed is almost the same as the AR possibly slower Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Crashy Mc Boom-bewm The United Socialist Liberation Front 49	Posted - 2014.08.23 23:39:00 - [17] - Quote My only issue with the weapon is i feel it doesnt do enough damage. Maybe a small increase to damage and i would think of using it. If at first it doesn't work, beat it with a brick.
LegacyofTable 28	Posted - 2014.08.24 00:04:00 - [18] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: Edit: I did the math and a carthum does 28.6 damage to an armor suit. Your shield based weapon does less damage to armor suits? Gasp! Licensed Thales Hunter Total Thales taken - 20
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 417	Posted - 2014.08.24 00:13:00 - [19] - Quote LegacyofTable wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Edit: I did the math and a carthum does 28.6 damage to an armor suit. Your shield based weapon does less damage to armor suits? Gasp! You don have to gift me with the sarcasm. I'm just saying it does a pathetic amount of damage to armor and 80% of the enemies I see on the battlefield are armor tanked. God forbid I see a heavy, I may as well turn and run Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
MetalWolf-Cell ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 18	Posted - 2014.08.24 00:33:00 - [20] - Quote I was actually using the ADV Assault SCR yesterday. It is annoying that it overheats but it's rare at times for me because usually the person is dead before I overheat. like others said, it was increased because before it was impossible to overheat sometimes. now it is possible. does it make it useless? not really, because its still a viable weapon. DUST 514/LEGION

BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 2948	Posted - 2014.08.24 01:38:00 - [21] - Quote Mauren NOON wrote: LegacyofTable wrote: Mauren NOON wrote: Edit: I did the math and a carthum does 28.6 damage to an armor suit. Your shield based weapon does less damage to armor suits? Gasp! You don have to gift me with the sarcasm. I'm just saying it does a pathetic amount of damage to armor and 80% of the enemies I see on the battlefield are armor tanked. God forbid I see a heavy, I may as well turn and run So if your problem is armor tanking, which in reality it probably is hybrid tanks, why don't you ask to fix that not the rifle. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5634	Posted - 2014.08.24 08:21:00 - [22] - Quote Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still... "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 3237	Posted - 2014.08.24 10:22:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still... Wait, seriously? I'm not going to lie, this has me pretty surprised. Mind if I ask how the aCR is doing? I was always sure that was the one that was out preforming the others. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 515	Posted - 2014.08.24 11:45:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still... TLDR: decrease clip size on scrambler rifle to 8 shots AR's underperform because DPS isnt necessary. Dropsuit regen is too low for DPS to be necessary. yea because everybody now knows that the CCP's heat mechanic was poorly and illogically implemented. your heat mechanic does not function as intended and now everyone knows it. heat build up over time is not the same as heat build up per shot. and now you cant fix it. which means you have to mcgyver the thing now. if you wont decrease rof, then decrease clip size (and maybe reload time) on the scrambler rifle AR's are DPS weapons. they function over TIME. meant mainly for breaking through active defenses such high hp regen. The problem with AR's is that theres no defense where DPS is needed in a practical sense. Dropsuit HP is low enough that you can either alpha damage a target (an extremely high damage shot ie. shotgun or sniper rifle) or burst damage a target ( same thing as an alpha strike, but happens over very brief period of time) the best way to illustrate AR's is to take two madrugars fitted with blasters and fit one with triple reps and the other with plates. now shoot each other. triple rep fit wins every time use the same fit on both tanks and then it comes down to DPS determining the winner. the guy with the bigger gun and/or damage mod would win. AR's underperform because engagement times are too short for DPS to be applied and take effect. and top of that, there isnt a need for such a weapon because no dropsuit can produce high enough regen where DPS would be necessary. AR's would be useful if shield tankers had ZERO shield delay. or if you had to kill someone being armor repped by 8 logistics dudes. Please understand that because this game is incomplete in terms of design and content, some things will not function properly or as intended. the way weapon in eve work is that for low hp targets, you use high alpha damage to one shot them all. reason is that theyre hp is so low that they wont survive the shot and so theyre regen isnt a factor. as you move up to higher hp targets, you move away from alpha weapons and more towards DPS weapons. basically anything you cant kill in a single shot needs a DPS weapon to kill it because it can regen its hp between shots. try killing a caldari sentinel with high regen and super short delays with a sniper rifle with no damage mods. you wont be able to because you dont have enough DPS. he's repping hp faster than you can deal damage to him especially if you miss shots because hes actively trying to dodge your shots.
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 158	Posted - 2014.08.24 13:09:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still... Especially the tactical AR. It simply the worst rifle in the game so far. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 418	Posted - 2014.08.24 14:21:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still... :D thank you for the reply! While I do know the semi-auto scrambler is really good right now, I'm glad you agree that the ASCR is vastly underperforming compared to other rifles. Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 418	Posted - 2014.08.24 14:24:00 - [27] - Quote Spademan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still... Wait, seriously? I'm not going to lie, this has me pretty surprised. Mind if I ask how the aCR is doing? I was always sure that was the one that was out preforming the others. I may be reading this wrong but did you just imply that the ACR is underperforming right now? Because if you did, lol @ you. The CR and ACR have been and always will be the best rifles in the game Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Vell0cet Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2203	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:06:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still... Is that correlated with the Assault suits? In other words, if Gallente assault and Caldari assault got better bonuses might those numbers change? I'd say Amarr & Minmatar assaults have much better bonuses, and with the rise of assault suits in Charlie, it's understandable that they'd see a rise in weapons they're bonused for. I run an Amarr assault primarily and I rarely use the AScR. It's really only good in pretty close quarters: 10-20m popping in/out of cover, but outside shotgun range. Out to the edge of its optimal, it's too unstable to be very accurate. I'll use it in the tunnels in the research station and do ok for example, but never in open spaces because the enemy can come at you from range and you're screwed. There's no sharpshooter skill to help reduce dispersion like the other rifles have. They're not cheap either, so I tend to stick with my Templar ScR. Best PvE idea ever!
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 418	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:07:00 - [29] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still... Is that correlated with the Assault suits? In other words, if Gallente assault and Caldari assault got better bonuses might those numbers change? I'd say Amarr & Minmatar assaults have much better bonuses, and with the rise of assault suits in Charlie, it's understandable that they'd see a rise in weapons they're bonused for. I run an Amarr assault primarily and I rarely use the AScR. It's really only good in pretty close quarters: 10-20m popping in/out of cover, but outside shotgun range. Out to the edge of its optimal, it's too unstable to be very accurate. I'll use it in the tunnels in the research station and do ok for example, but never in open spaces because the enemy can come at you from range and you're screwed. There's no sharpshooter skill to help reduce dispersion like the other rifles have. They're not cheap either, so I tend to stick with my Templar ScR. Same Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 2948	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:25:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Actually I just gave the CPM a heads up yesterday that the scrambler is outperforming other rifles right now, yet the assault scrambler is one of the worst performers, along with all the GA Assault Rifles, still... It's because of all this hybrid tanking bla bla bla. Most suits like to stack armor in some form or another, because of this high dps anti shield weapons hit brick walls when the shields are down giving ample time for the enemy to run away, or retaliate. The reason why the scr is extremely popular is because it has extremely high alpha and dps so it can ignore armor. While the combat rifle and rail rifle can easily break shields and then mow down the armor portion instantly once that proficiency level 5 kicks in. I think a good fix would be changing the damage proficiencies to mimic that of a combat rifle (also making it do 95/105); so rail would do 95/105, AR would do 105/95, explosive could do 85/115, and laser would do 115/85. Another fix, or a fix combined with the proficiency change, could be changing the proficiency bonus to how it used to be but reducing it to 1% damage to weapon damage per level or sometimes that does not relate to damage whatsoever. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious



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