Who can see that ScRs are OP? People ***** and whine about CRs and RRs all day, but I've never been three shotted by a CR before. I hear you say it takes skill to use. Bull. Just spam the R1 trigger until the enemy is dead. It does so much damage you don't have to worry about overheating before they die.

Just the other day, I ran up behind a PRO Amarr Assault while I was in my STD Minmatar heavy frame. I shot him full on in the back with my HMG, about 10m. He didn't even try to strafe, he simply turned around and quadruple shotted me. He still had half armor when I died. My ~1000 eHP gone in about one second.

When I use this thing, I can one shot half of the enemies I encounter. Another quarter of them can be finished off with one or two non charged shots. The last quarter are heavies, and all you need to do then is double charge shot them from a distance.

The only thing that annoys more than the fact this thing is so powerful, is the fact that people still argue that it isn't.

It's a pretty easy fix, reduce rpm to 400 instead of 700+, brings the dps down to a reasonable amount and no amount of button/macro spamming can give the scrambler rifle an OP advantage.

Would you share with us the ~1000eHP fit in question?

So your mad your standard heavy didn't insta gib an assault Ak.0

So...u want your little heavy to kill a proto medium suit without effort ?

Are you trying to suggest that a STD suit that gets the drop on a PRO suit STILL shouldn't be able to beat them, even if the weapon held by the STD is a CQC weapon, and the weapon held by the PRO is a long range weapon, when the two are separated by about 10m?

I assume you want shields/armor. 543/462.

Are you trying to suggest that a STD suit that gets the drop on a PRO suit STILL shouldn't be able to beat them, even if the weapon held by the STD is a CQC weapon, and the weapon held by the PRO is a long range weapon, when the two are separated by about 10m?

Alright. That was pretty much what I was expecting.
With math, I can conclude that the PRO Am assault shot you at least 3 times in the head, with one of those three shots being the charged shot. Whether or not the 4th shot was in the head is unknown, but considering that the other three were, it is very likely.

Keep in mind, that if those shots were not in the head, you would have been very likely to win.

If your 10m away from a enemy with a Scr It'd be a death wish to use a charged shot that only does 3x the dmg of a normal shot. Plus in the time it takes you to charge a more experienced user would of gotten 3-5 shots off.

No, I've done it plenty of times but what I am saying is that you shouldn't be surprised that you lost to an 1000+ armor buffer like most Ak.0's fit. And to say you shouldn't die to a long range weapon in cqc is kinda stupid when you have a large hit box 10m close. No amount of strafing would of saved you.

Alright. That was pretty much what I was expecting.
With math, I can conclude that the PRO Am assault shot you at least 3 times in the head, with one of those three shots being the charged shot. Whether or not the 4th shot was in the head is unknown, but considering that the other three were, it is very likely.

Keep in mind, that if those shots were not in the head, you would have been very likely to win.

What I am getting from your post is that you think everything is perfectly balanced if PRO suits can win in just about any scenario against STD gear. I wonder why our NPE is so bad.

And, in the end, you miss the point of my post. That was just one scenario that popped out in my memory. The point is that the ScR is over-the-top. High damage, high RoF, tight hip-fire dispersion, great range. ONE of those things needs removal, preferably the hipfire.

I'm curious to know, are you considering proficiency/damage mods?

What I am getting from your post is that you think everything is perfectly balanced if PRO suits can win in just about any scenario against STD gear. I wonder why our NPE is so bad.

And, in the end, you miss the point of my post. That was just one scenario that popped out in my memory. The point is that the ScR is over-the-top. High damage, high RoF, tight hip-fire dispersion, great range. ONE of those things needs removal, preferably the hipfire.

If they had Proficiency 5 and a couple o CXf damage mods, it would be possible that 2/4 shots were body shots. There was a charged headshot in their at some point, as that is the only explanation for losing 1000HP in 4 shots.

He said this was from memory leaving one to believe that it was a while ago I don't know about you but I sure as hell wouldn't remember how many shots I pumped into some poor sob.

No I don't, but it's pretty obvious it's the way that it is. But sure go ahead and take away the tight hip fire it'll make it all the better in cqc.

Yes, because when you fire ten shots while hipfiring and only 2 hit because the dispersion cone is so wide, you do so much better.

Don't get sidetracked guys.

Scrambler rifle = OP

DPS available on the assumption that "no one can push the button that fast" is just moronic.

Of course they can and will.

And the heat up is based on time, not on shots fired.

And I've seen videos of people being able to cancel the overheat (unsure if this is still an issue)

That it hasn't been fixed for so long beggars belief.

Nerf it back to 400rpm and see how you go from there.