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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 05:41:00 -
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Would you share with us the ~1000eHP fit in question? |
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 06:26:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Would you share with us the ~1000eHP fit in question? I assume you want shields/armor. 543/462.
Alright. That was pretty much what I was expecting.
With math, I can conclude that the PRO Am assault shot you at least 3 times in the head, with one of those three shots being the charged shot. Whether or not the 4th shot was in the head is unknown, but considering that the other three were, it is very likely.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 06:48:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Would you share with us the ~1000eHP fit in question? I assume you want shields/armor. 543/462. Alright. That was pretty much what I was expecting. With math, I can conclude that the PRO Am assault shot you at least 3 times in the head, with one of those three shots being the charged shot. Whether or not the 4th shot was in the head is unknown, but considering that the other three were, it is very likely. Keep in mind, that if those shots were not in the head, you would have been very likely to win. If your 10m away from a enemy with a Scr It'd be a death wish to use a charged shot that only does 3x the dmg of a normal shot. Plus in the time it takes you to charge a more experienced user would of gotten 3-5 shots off.
Unless he already had the shot charged before Logi Bro snuck up on him...
Also, I'm not saying that what the ScR user did was optimal, I'm just pointing out what likely happened. It worked for him, apparently. |
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 06:56:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:So your mad your standard heavy didn't insta gib an assault Ak.0 Are you trying to suggest that a STD suit that gets the drop on a PRO suit STILL shouldn't be able to beat them, even if the weapon held by the STD is a CQC weapon, and the weapon held by the PRO is a long range weapon, when the two are separated by about 10m? No, I've done it plenty of times but what I am saying is that you shouldn't be surprised that you lost to an 1000+ armor buffer like most Ak.0's fit. And to say you shouldn't die to a long range weapon in cqc is kinda stupid when you have a large hit box 10m close. No amount of strafing would of saved you. What I am getting from your post is that you think everything is perfectly balanced if PRO suits can win in just about any scenario against STD gear. I wonder why our NPE is so bad. And, in the end, you miss the point of my post. That was just one scenario that popped out in my memory. The point is that the ScR is over-the-top. High damage, high RoF, tight hip-fire dispersion, great range. ONE of those things needs removal, preferably the hipfire.
Meh. It has great stats compared to the other rifles, but it also has great drawbacks compared to the other rifles.
I've never been super excited about ScRs (was more of a hobby for me than something I really got into). However, pretty much any bias I had about any weapon in this game is gone, due to me having biomass awhile ago. From an outsider perspective, the only real issue with the ScR is that it can fire too fast. 705 RPM is well beyond what anyone can achieve. I personally think its RoF should be dropped to a flat 525. |
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 07:00:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Would you share with us the ~1000eHP fit in question? I assume you want shields/armor. 543/462. Alright. That was pretty much what I was expecting. With math, I can conclude that the PRO Am assault shot you at least 3 times in the head, with one of those three shots being the charged shot. Whether or not the 4th shot was in the head is unknown, but considering that the other three were, it is very likely. Keep in mind, that if those shots were not in the head, you would have been very likely to win. I'm curious to know, are you considering proficiency/damage mods?
If they had Proficiency 5 and a couple o CXf damage mods, it would be possible that 2/4 shots were body shots. There was a charged headshot in their at some point, as that is the only explanation for losing 1000HP in 4 shots. |
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 07:20:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:
He said this was from memory leaving one to believe that it was a while ago I don't know about you but I sure as hell wouldn't remember how many shots I pumped into some poor sob.
True. LB here might have been over(under?) exaggerating a bit, and the Amassault could have very well fired 12 shots. Who's to know I guess...
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 13:09:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:I'm prof 4 in SCR and I can tell you sir that you are most certainly correct. The over heat does not balance it out at all lol, the overheat is barely just enough to be a problem. It's negligible, this is proven by how how people just spam shoot them. should be over heating after 6-7 consecutive shots, not 15+ 6-7 shots.... so you just want to make it the most underpowered gun in the game, gone with the way of the ion pistol I suppose. atm I can spam 17 shots with the basic SCR at pinpoint accuracy before overheating in my minmatar assault, thats next to instant 1105 damage before extra shield dmg and minus armor damage. Amarr assaults get 25% heat build up reduction at proto. So thats another 4 hits to total the damage to 1365 base damage before modifiers. Forge gun damage with a standard rifle in half the time. Waaay OP, it would be alright if it wasn't so accurate but it really is pinpoint accurate, as long as your dot is on them, your hitting them.
By that logic, every rifle is "waaay OP". |
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