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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2014.08.19 06:01:00 -
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So your mad your standard heavy didn't insta gib an assault Ak.0
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2014.08.19 06:37:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:So your mad your standard heavy didn't insta gib an assault Ak.0 Are you trying to suggest that a STD suit that gets the drop on a PRO suit STILL shouldn't be able to beat them, even if the weapon held by the STD is a CQC weapon, and the weapon held by the PRO is a long range weapon, when the two are separated by about 10m?
No, I've done it plenty of times but what I am saying is that you shouldn't be surprised that you lost to an 1000+ armor buffer like most Ak.0's fit. And to say you shouldn't die to a long range weapon in cqc is kinda stupid when you have a large hit box 10m close. No amount of strafing would of saved you.
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2014.08.19 06:42:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Would you share with us the ~1000eHP fit in question? I assume you want shields/armor. 543/462. Alright. That was pretty much what I was expecting. With math, I can conclude that the PRO Am assault shot you at least 3 times in the head, with one of those three shots being the charged shot. Whether or not the 4th shot was in the head is unknown, but considering that the other three were, it is very likely. Keep in mind, that if those shots were not in the head, you would have been very likely to win.
If your 10m away from a enemy with a Scr It'd be a death wish to use a charged shot that only does 3x the dmg of a normal shot. Plus in the time it takes you to charge a more experienced user would of gotten 3-5 shots off.
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2014.08.19 07:09:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:So your mad your standard heavy didn't insta gib an assault Ak.0 Are you trying to suggest that a STD suit that gets the drop on a PRO suit STILL shouldn't be able to beat them, even if the weapon held by the STD is a CQC weapon, and the weapon held by the PRO is a long range weapon, when the two are separated by about 10m? No, I've done it plenty of times but what I am saying is that you shouldn't be surprised that you lost to an 1000+ armor buffer like most Ak.0's fit. And to say you shouldn't die to a long range weapon in cqc is kinda stupid when you have a large hit box 10m close. No amount of strafing would of saved you. What I am getting from your post is that you think everything is perfectly balanced if PRO suits can win in just about any scenario against STD gear. I wonder why our NPE is so bad. And, in the end, you miss the point of my post. That was just one scenario that popped out in my memory. The point is that the ScR is over-the-top. High damage, high RoF, tight hip-fire dispersion, great range. ONE of those things needs removal, preferably the hipfire.
No I don't, but it's pretty obvious it's the way that it is. But sure go ahead and take away the tight hip fire it'll make it all the better in cqc.
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2014.08.19 07:12:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Would you share with us the ~1000eHP fit in question? I assume you want shields/armor. 543/462. Alright. That was pretty much what I was expecting. With math, I can conclude that the PRO Am assault shot you at least 3 times in the head, with one of those three shots being the charged shot. Whether or not the 4th shot was in the head is unknown, but considering that the other three were, it is very likely. Keep in mind, that if those shots were not in the head, you would have been very likely to win. I'm curious to know, are you considering proficiency/damage mods? If they had Proficiency 5 and a couple o CXf damage mods, it would be possible that 2/4 shots were body shots. There was a charged headshot in their at some point, as that is the only explanation for losing 1000HP in 4 shots.
He said this was from memory leaving one to believe that it was a while ago I don't know about you but I sure as hell wouldn't remember how many shots I pumped into some poor sob.
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2014.08.19 07:38:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:
No I don't, but it's pretty obvious it's the way that it is. But sure go ahead and take away the tight hip fire it'll make it all the better in cqc.
Yes, because when you fire ten shots while hipfiring and only 2 hit because the dispersion cone is so wide, you do so much better.
The hmg seems to do just fine :D
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Posted - 2014.08.19 12:16:00 -
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Andris Kronis wrote:Don't get sidetracked guys.
Scrambler rifle = OP
DPS available on the assumption that "no one can push the button that fast" is just moronic.
Of course they can and will.
And the heat up is based on time, not on shots fired.
And I've seen videos of people being able to cancel the overheat (unsure if this is still an issue)
That it hasn't been fixed for so long beggars belief.
Nerf it back to 400rpm and see how you go from there.
So your saying you can shoot more than 4-5 rounds a second without a modded controller?
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Posted - 2014.08.19 12:31:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:I'm prof 4 in SCR and I can tell you sir that you are most certainly correct. The over heat does not balance it out at all lol, the overheat is barely just enough to be a problem. It's negligible, this is proven by how how people just spam shoot them. should be over heating after 6-7 consecutive shots, not 15+
6-7 shots.... so you just want to make it the most underpowered gun in the game, gone with the way of the ion pistol I suppose.
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:21:00 -
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militia combat rifle wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Who can see that ScRs are OP? People ***** and whine about CRs and RRs all day, but I've never been three shotted by a CR before. I hear you say it takes skill to use. Bull. Just spam the R1 trigger until the enemy is dead. It does so much damage you don't have to worry about overheating before they die.
Just the other day, I ran up behind a PRO Amarr Assault while I was in my STD Minmatar heavy frame. I shot him full on in the back with my HMG, about 10m. He didn't even try to strafe, he simply turned around and quadruple shotted me. He still had half armor when I died. My ~1000 eHP gone in about one second.
When I use this thing, I can one shot half of the enemies I encounter. Another quarter of them can be finished off with one or two non charged shots. The last quarter are heavies, and all you need to do then is double charge shot them from a distance.
The only thing that annoys more than the fact this thing is so powerful, is the fact that people still argue that it isn't. It is the ability to stack damage mods on armor suits because they don't need the high slots for their armor suit to function, shield suits needs both the highs and the lows for a effective shield setup. Shield suits are sacrificing alot more to stack damage mods than armor. Compare that with the damage profile of the scrambler and you have the reason why some people will call it OP. I think everyone can call it op as a shield based weapon it does more damage to armor than the cr Crw scr- dmg to armor per shot = 54.6 Rs-90- dmg to armor per shot = 31.18 This can be calculated by taking the base dgm of each weapon and adding in the type bonus scr is 10% dmg to shield -10% to armor and just flip it for cr
Did you even consider that the Cr fires in burst of 3-4 bullets that never miss if one bullet connects?
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