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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.21 17:23:00 -
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ROADKILLURAZZ wrote:What you clowns FAIL to realize is: If mercs dont die, YOU DONT GET PAID! Every time a merc gets revived, thats less money going into final payouts!
Every time a proto corp steam rolls the noobs, the match is over before it even starts. The noobs give up and snipe from redline. At least before, you could drop orbital on objective and give the noobs a fighting chance.
The matches are ending with 100+ mercs on either side. What a waste of time!
 Oh, clowns or not, (...wait, what?) we realized it, Roadkillurazz... In an actual PC match, every clone life taken or preserved is ISK lost or gained to our EVE client (and our Merc contract hinges on it).
But there's still a persisting arugument among us (and a valid one, in my opinion), that a group of red Newberrys or just counter-purposed vets who get pitted against a group of blue organized Newberrys or better vets,... NEEDS to lose the match by 100+ lives. The justification could be explained as: In a game about dice there should always be "fair winning", but in a game about combat there should be something respected as "a fair slaughter", and the poorer team shouldn't get consolation weaponry.
But even if the subject's not about that debate, I think CCP has revealed it enough times that they are constantly concerned that this stay a game about FOOT-fights as the star of the show---and they are careful to make sure Dust doesn't slip into being an HAV-game primarily, or front-stage for the Dropships (we had that struggle last year), or a game called 'Orbitals Galaxy: use your orbitals to dodge your enemy while trying to stop him from getting to his first! (not recommended for children under 3 without supervision )"
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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emtbraincase
Savage Bullet
204
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Posted - 2014.08.24 04:16:00 -
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Several people want 1500 WP/OB, increasing to 6-man 5k WP/OB.
Said this before, but apparently it needs repeated......
Make the change NOW because I can't friggin wait to drop bombs continually on newbs. If you want to make it where I, and those like me (there are a TON of us out there), can do the following things, please implement that change now:
1) enter a match with friends in 6-man squad (2 of us are Logi)
2) as soon as we enter the match we stay in private chat and form 3 separate squads [(2) 1-man logi sqds & (1) 4-man heavy/scout/vehicle squad]
3) Me and the other logi proceed to get 3000 WP each, and the squad of 4 gets 1500 average/person (this is not difficult with ADV suits/Pro Equip)
4) due to new rules, me and my fellow Logi get 2 OB's each (total of 4), and my 4-man gets 2 as well (new total of 6 with all accounted for).....this is opposed to the 2-3 we generally get a match as it stands.
These are not ravings, or bragging, but the cold hard facts some don't wanna see. This change has actually minimized the chance of my team stomping you into the ground. A good logi can get 3k WP pretty easily (if you are one and can't, rethink your chosen profession or ask for help), and should always clear 1500 WP/match or it is likely a failure or a rout. Giving someone like that a chance to get 2-3 OB's for the same amount of work, then you are kidding yourself if you think we won't abuse the hell out of this. Funny thing is we have been trying to tell you 1-3 man squadders this will happen if you do it, so you will only be hurting yourselves once you can actually get into a 6-man or we decide to break off into (2) 3-man squads.
TL;DR: Make 1-man squads require less WP for an orbital and you are guaranteed that myself and other semi-competent Logi will solobomb the **** outta any match we enter. |
emtbraincase
Savage Bullet
204
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Posted - 2014.08.24 13:46:00 -
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Just realized something that could help getting past the guaranteed abuse.......make OB's cost increasing amounts of WP. First OB costs 3000 WP, but the 2nd is 4k, the 3rd is 5k, and 1k more for each additional orbital. This would mean the following:
1 OB=3000 WP total
2 OB=7000 WP total
3 OB=12000 WP total
4 OB=18000 WP total
etc
Solo players can still drop one, but I don't get a particular benefit from playing solo to exploit the mechanic. Hopefully this can breathe new life into an older topic, that is considered dead by many, as soon as it is brought up.
If this is in the thread already, sorry I missed it. If not, tell me what is wrong with this idea so I can see where the flaws are (because I'm having a hard time seeing an overall negative, with a bit of compromise from each side). |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3948
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Posted - 2014.08.24 13:52:00 -
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I like 5k as I think it drastically limits my corps 6 man pub stomp squads from just being a little OP and dropping 6-8 ob's in a good match, 2 in a redline bad match.
I see the math is good on pulling it to 4k though and perhaps that might be the sweet spot. 
We're here listening.
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
204
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Posted - 2014.08.24 14:12:00 -
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i don't get tho why are we trying to placate people who don't want to join squads? i can't really find any reason esp. with squad vision from scans why anyone would not want to join a squad? you have a chance to kill more enemies and live longer, meaning more isk and wp/sp for you. the only thing i can see is starting a game and not wanting to wait the twenty seconds for the team list to load, i do agree that is straight up @ss and would be instantly solved by bringing the warbarge back for pubs. if ppl are not joining squads because of the 'challenge of soloing' well lmao
There are some serious reasons to not like squads:
Squad leader takes 5 to 10 minutes doing stupid sht after every ambush to restart a match
make your own squad
Squad leader says you need to have a mic and you don't feel like it
make your own "i don't care if you have a mic or not" squad
Squad is mostly full of the same corp raging and just sounding straight up annoying in general
make your own squad
Even in a squad of 6 children, 5k total is not that far out of reach esp. in doms and skirms
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
6649
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Posted - 2014.08.24 14:28:00 -
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Sum1ne Else wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Gaurdian Satyr wrote:ok i can understand raising it from 2500 to stop abuse but 5000!! that is a little over the top isnt it..3500 to 4000 is understandable but 5000 is requiring 5-6 man squads and 1 must be a logi harvesting points from revives, heals and spawns Just ran with a squad that got two OBs. Seems to be working fine. Same.. Not too sure what this is all about. It should encourage you ALL to squad up. C'mon its less than 1000WP each, this really is not hard to do! If I run solo and lay links I make 3500wp in one dom.
Now I'm trying to remember a match where I DIDN'T get more than 1000WP lol
FA's Stabber Extraordinaire
Minmatar Enthusiast
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