DUST Search - Why do people hate tanks so much????

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

Tread Loudly 2 wrote:

Cenex Langly wrote:

Tread Loudly 2 wrote:

I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much?

Cost is roughly the same as a proto suit, but there are only 3 weapons (plus 1 grenade) that can hurt it. It has over 4,000 HP (on a ****** setup).

So, you have 4 times the average HP as a proto suit, cost the same as a proto suit and you do 10x's more damage than any weapon in the game. Most (Missiles and rails) can one shot you. And to top it off, your speed is 2-3 times faster than any of the fastest scout. Plus, people can jump out of their armored vehicles when someone is trying to get close to it and mow them down with an HMG if they so desired.

When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question.

There are suits that cost over 500,000 ISK?

A tank can't run from a forge gun

A tank can die by NK's PLC's FG's and swarms that is four not to mention the countless installations ^-^

Your tank costs 500k? Hell I just run a 150k Madrugar that can mow down infantry like nobodies business. I think you are over investing if your tank costs 500k. Its like making a 150-200k scout shotgun suit, for what it does, you don't need that much state of the art do-hickeys. It's like buying a computer for the calculator app.

And tanks can absolutely run from forge guns, they can hide behind hills/buildings to block a forge guns LOS because a fatty isn't going anywhere quick. The only ones they can't do that to is Rooftop fatties which are why god invented Charged Sniper Rifles or just another forger. If a forge gun can hit you, you can hit a forge gun with a forge gun.

Pure tankers suffer from the age old condition of "Why can't my tank counter everything?" that tankers always have. You don't see me complaining when my rifle assault suit is running across a street and a tank flies around the corner and unloads on him and you don't see me complaining when my av fit gets wrecked by a rifle assault suit.

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Tread Loudly 2 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 35	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:25:00 - [1] - Quote I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
Cenex Langly Dude.Man.Bro 792	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:28:00 - [2] - Quote Tread Loudly 2 wrote: I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? Cost is roughly the same as a proto suit, but there are only 3 weapons (plus 1 grenade) that can hurt it. It has over 4,000 HP (on a ****** setup). So, you have 4 times the average HP as a proto suit, cost the same as a proto suit and you do 10x's more damage than any weapon in the game. Most (Missiles and rails) can one shot you. And to top it off, your speed is 2-3 times faster than any of the fastest scout. Plus, people can jump out of their armored vehicles when someone is trying to get close to it and mow them down with an HMG if they so desired. When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question. Newb
Tread Loudly 2 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 35	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:31:00 - [3] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Tread Loudly 2 wrote: I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? Cost is roughly the same as a proto suit, but there are only 3 weapons (plus 1 grenade) that can hurt it. It has over 4,000 HP (on a ****** setup). So, you have 4 times the average HP as a proto suit, cost the same as a proto suit and you do 10x's more damage than any weapon in the game. Most (Missiles and rails) can one shot you. And to top it off, your speed is 2-3 times faster than any of the fastest scout. Plus, people can jump out of their armored vehicles when someone is trying to get close to it and mow them down with an HMG if they so desired. When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question. There are suits that cost over 500,000 ISK? A tank can't run from a forge gun A tank can die by NK's PLC's FG's and swarms that is four not to mention the countless installations ^-^ I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 3109	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:32:00 - [4] - Quote Because even with a huge hp pool, outstanding firepower, better mobility than infantry, and practical invulnerability to most weapons tankers still whined and moaned to get buffed and our stuff nerfed Thats why I dont like tank drivers at least
Tread Loudly 2 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 35	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:33:00 - [5] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Because even with a huge hp pool, outstanding firepower, better mobility than infantry, and practical invulnerability to most weapons tankers still whined and moaned to get buffed and our stuff nerfed Thats why I dont like tank drivers at least I simply ask to bring the old tanks back, I may have never used them but they look **** good on paper I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
Cenex Langly Dude.Man.Bro 793	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:33:00 - [6] - Quote Tread Loudly 2 wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Tread Loudly 2 wrote: I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? Cost is roughly the same as a proto suit, but there are only 3 weapons (plus 1 grenade) that can hurt it. It has over 4,000 HP (on a ****** setup). So, you have 4 times the average HP as a proto suit, cost the same as a proto suit and you do 10x's more damage than any weapon in the game. Most (Missiles and rails) can one shot you. And to top it off, your speed is 2-3 times faster than any of the fastest scout. Plus, people can jump out of their armored vehicles when someone is trying to get close to it and mow them down with an HMG if they so desired. When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question. There are suits that cost over 500,000 ISK? LOLz, excuse me.... Tanks cost "twice as much" as a proto suit. (My Min Logi is about 213,000). My point is still valid even if they costed over 750,000 ISK or 1,000,000 ISK. Newb
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 771	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:33:00 - [7] - Quote Spamming. That's it. Spam something enough, and people get tired of it. Tanks are easy to take down individually, and seeing one every other game isn't so bad, but it's not every other game, it's every game outside of standard ambush matches. That, and there's no thrill to killing them anymore. I get more satisfaction out of knifing a proto suit than I do out of RE'ing a tanker, no matter his fit. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2865	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:33:00 - [8] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question. To be fair, infantry do have some advantages that a vehicle can't replicate, such as fitting into small spaces with cover or reaching an elevated position. Using these advantages is typically the best way to counter tanks, but most people run around on the ground which is the tank's natural territory, and complain when it doesn't work. It's kinda like running towards a sniper in an open field with a shotgun in your hand and complaining that you can't win.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 465	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:35:00 - [9] - Quote Tread Loudly 2 wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Tread Loudly 2 wrote: I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? Cost is roughly the same as a proto suit, but there are only 3 weapons (plus 1 grenade) that can hurt it. It has over 4,000 HP (on a ****** setup). So, you have 4 times the average HP as a proto suit, cost the same as a proto suit and you do 10x's more damage than any weapon in the game. Most (Missiles and rails) can one shot you. And to top it off, your speed is 2-3 times faster than any of the fastest scout. Plus, people can jump out of their armored vehicles when someone is trying to get close to it and mow them down with an HMG if they so desired. When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question. There are suits that cost over 500,000 ISK? A tank can't run from a forge gun A tank can die by NK's PLC's FG's and swarms that is four not to mention the countless installations ^-^ Your tank costs 500k? Hell I just run a 150k Madrugar that can mow down infantry like nobodies business. I think you are over investing if your tank costs 500k. Its like making a 150-200k scout shotgun suit, for what it does, you don't need that much state of the art do-hickeys. It's like buying a computer for the calculator app.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 465	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:39:00 - [10] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question. To be fair, infantry do have some advantages that a vehicle can't replicate, such as fitting into small spaces with cover or reaching an elevated position. Using these advantages is typically the best way to counter tanks, but most people run around on the ground which is the tank's natural territory, and complain when it doesn't work. It's kinda like running towards a sniper in an open field with a shotgun in your hand and complaining that you can't win. If we are taking the cover argument at least half the maps are small cover areas surrounded by wide open spaces. Essentially, the infantry tank relation is akin to the film "The Reef" You can swim from cover to cover but the tank can overtake and kill you. There are many maps and situations where if I want to get from objective X to objective Y I'm going to have to wonder out into the open where a tank can come flooring from across the map and gobble me up. I think the other person's argument still stands that people dislike tanks because they have many upsides and few downsides. This is the reason why people don't like any sort of thing in this game or any other pvp game. People despise things that have far more pros then cons.

Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 352	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:40:00 - [11] - Quote Tread Loudly 2 wrote: (...) To destroy HAV infantry need special equipment that is most of the time useless when they kill tank - HAV at the other hand do not need any equipment to continue killing others. Beside that there are just two option in this game that infantry can do with HAV: kill it, or let it escape - if we could for example turn off they engine for 5 second or ability repair, regenerate shield, or even aim.. but no, and when they are destroy pilots can easily call another HAV. That's why. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 352	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:42:00 - [12] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Because even with a huge hp pool, outstanding firepower, better mobility than infantry, and practical invulnerability to most weapons tankers still whined and moaned to get buffed and our stuff nerfed Thats why I dont like tank drivers at least You do not know history of SL if you speak such a BS(they were completely OP and disbalance). Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Tebu Gan Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1171	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:44:00 - [13] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Tread Loudly 2 wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Tread Loudly 2 wrote: I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? Cost is roughly the same as a proto suit, but there are only 3 weapons (plus 1 grenade) that can hurt it. It has over 4,000 HP (on a ****** setup). So, you have 4 times the average HP as a proto suit, cost the same as a proto suit and you do 10x's more damage than any weapon in the game. Most (Missiles and rails) can one shot you. And to top it off, your speed is 2-3 times faster than any of the fastest scout. Plus, people can jump out of their armored vehicles when someone is trying to get close to it and mow them down with an HMG if they so desired. When you ask why people hate tanks, take into consideration the amount of overpowered advantage they provide. Then you can make a rational and logical assumption (or factual thought, your choice) as to the answer of your question. There are suits that cost over 500,000 ISK? A tank can't run from a forge gun A tank can die by NK's PLC's FG's and swarms that is four not to mention the countless installations ^-^ Your tank costs 500k? Hell I just run a 150k Madrugar that can mow down infantry like nobodies business. I think you are over investing if your tank costs 500k. Its like making a 150-200k scout shotgun suit, for what it does, you don't need that much state of the art do-hickeys. It's like buying a computer for the calculator app. And tanks can absolutely run from forge guns, they can hide behind hills/buildings to block a forge guns LOS because a fatty isn't going anywhere quick. The only ones they can't do that to is Rooftop fatties which are why god invented Charged Sniper Rifles or just another forger. If a forge gun can hit you, you can hit a forge gun with a forge gun. Pure tankers suffer from the age old condition of "Why can't my tank counter everything?" that tankers always have. You don't see me complaining when my rifle assault suit is running across a street and a tank flies around the corner and unloads on him and you don't see me complaining when my av fit gets wrecked by a rifle assault suit. It's not if you only lose them once in a blue moon. Tanks - Balancing Turrets
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 465	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:44:00 - [14] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Because even with a huge hp pool, outstanding firepower, better mobility than infantry, and practical invulnerability to most weapons tankers still whined and moaned to get buffed and our stuff nerfed Thats why I dont like tank drivers at least You do not know history of SL if you speak such a BS(they were completely OP and disbalance). He's probably talking post 1.7
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 465	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:46:00 - [15] - Quote The only valid complaint I could see tanks having imo in this current build is Rail Turret Installations. This hp buff is pretty ridiculous. They needed a buff... but 4x the armor?
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 3109	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:46:00 - [16] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Because even with a huge hp pool, outstanding firepower, better mobility than infantry, and practical invulnerability to most weapons tankers still whined and moaned to get buffed and our stuff nerfed Thats why I dont like tank drivers at least You do not know history of SL if you speak such a BS(they were completely OP and disbalance). Been here since open beta, the non rendering swarms was a real issue yes but damn near everything else tankers complained about wasnt but they kept it up for more than half a year and CCP caved and Im sure we all know what happened when 2 of 3 viable AV measures got nerfed to hell
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11495	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:50:00 - [17] - Quote Tread Loudly 2 wrote: I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? Snipers get far more hate than HAV and ADS Pilots combined. I hate you because it helps motivate me to get the job done as an AVer, but If I had to guess it's probably because you're mere success relies on the fact there aren't players with a good amount of investment into AV to stop you. Some feel as if you guys go into your HAV for the sole purpose of stomping others, and in some cases you'd be correct. Others dislike you because of the disaster known as Uprising 1.7 - Hotfix Alpha. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11495	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:53:00 - [18] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: The only valid complaint I could see tanks having imo in this current build is Rail Turret Installations. This hp buff is pretty ridiculous. They needed a buff... but 4x the armor? It;s only 2 Clips from a Large Missile Turret or 5-6 Volleys from a Swarm Launcher.. Not sure about Hybrid Weaponry, but Explosives are very effective counters against them. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5793	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:55:00 - [19] - Quote Because infantry want to fight in open areas like idiots. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 465	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:02:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: The only valid complaint I could see tanks having imo in this current build is Rail Turret Installations. This hp buff is pretty ridiculous. They needed a buff... but 4x the armor? It;s only 2 Clips from a Large Missile Turret or 5-6 Volleys from a Swarm Launcher.. Not sure about Hybrid Weaponry, but Explosives are very effective counters against them. I'm talking specifically for tankers those large missle turrets reload very slowly and the rail installations that are on some maps are all over the place pretty much make tankers spend the first half of the match firing and retreating until they wear them down. I have no issue with installations as anything other than infantry but damn can installations throw a monkey wrench now in vehicle play. I think their armor buff was just too large personally. As an alternative, I wouldn't mind turrets staying the same but them removing the auto turret AI.

Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3319	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:14:00 - [21] - Quote People don't hate tanks, just the people who drive them. Their *holes! They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Death Shadow117 New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 287	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:18:00 - [22] - Quote Tread Loudly 2 wrote: I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? I dont hate all tanks... just kdr padding blaster scrubs. Why?
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 358	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:38:00 - [23] - Quote TANKOPHOBIA and the ignorance to understand that a tank is not a problem nor is a tank with a turret that is anything other than a large blaster. The large blaster was the only problem. More specifically, militia tanks with large blasters are the problem due to ease of spam. Nip that and tanks are never a problem to infantry. The off handed rail or missile shot that kills one lil' ol' infantry every so few minutes during a match? Please. The only reason to destroy an enemy tank without a large blaster is to help a team member tanker out or for fun. But, the way TANKOPHOBES talk neither of those options are really the reason why they want to destroy a tank. If they hate tanks then why help a team mate tanker out? Why do it for fun when you hate tanks? No, it is because they have a disorder. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1087	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:39:00 - [24] - Quote For the same reason people hate snipers almost like it's a rule. One or even two tankers/snipers per team is fine. More than that and it's a sad attempt at escaping death. But I think the reason is, most people either haven't or will not specc AV and it infuriates them when there 3-4 running around and their unable to do much about it. Similiar to how tankers would feel if the opposing team has a squad of AV, you just been rendered next to useless that match. If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 305	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:41:00 - [25] - Quote I believe that tankers catch so much hate because of the way the mechanic is abused. The fact that tanks ever existed in Ambush and still exist in Ambush OMS is ludicrous in my opinion because look at the word ambush; =========================================================== am-+bush -êam-îbo-¥oSH/ noun noun: ambush; plural noun: ambushes 1. a surprise attack by people lying in wait in a concealed position. "seven members of a patrol were killed in an ambush" synonyms:surprise attack, trap; archaicambuscade "the soldiers were killed in an ambush" verb verb: ambush; 3rd person present: ambushes; past tense: ambushed; past participle: ambushed; gerund or present participle: ambushing 1. make a surprise attack on (someone) from a concealed position. "they were ambushed and taken prisoner by the enemy" synonyms:attack by surprise, surprise, pounce on, fall upon, lay a trap for, set an ambush for, lie in wait for, waylay, bushwhack; archaicambuscade "twenty youths ambushed the patrol car" =========================================================== Being spawn camped by a tank is not fun for anyone except the tanker that goes 70/0. Its a crime that, that is even possible. It takes zero effort past the time crunch to train up all the prototype gear for the tank, to kill someone with a tank. You could argue it takes skill to do so, but take a look at the turrets. One shot, dead. I see it non-stop. All day every day. Being an infantry man in this game actually requires some degree of skill and you take risk when you're up close and personal. Lets say you turn a corner and its you vs a gaggle of raspberries that are smiling at you, you open fire with your weapon and you might get none of them, you might get all of them but likely you're going to die and you can take 1-2 of them with you. Even the tankers have to get out of their tanks to hack objectives...but that's fine. Domination and Skirmish are great modes for tanks....it makes perfect sense to use tanks in that mode, although they are still overpowered. So players acting like babies, the fact that they try to drop 8 tanks on the battlefield and just the overall baby mentality of the people who play this game is why tankers get so much crap. Redline sniping, manipulating the mechanics to put a tank high up on a building where it can snipe everyone on the battlefield....the zero ramifications factor of the tanks is why they get so much crap. Its not a "get gud" situation or any of the other ignorant phrases these "elitist" crybabies use....its just poor sportsmanship and something to be ashamed of. FOR ALL YOU TL;DR's 1. Tanks don't belong in Ambush 2. Tankers get crap because they act like babies 3. You should be ashamed of poor sportsmanship
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 358	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:53:00 - [26] - Quote Death Shadow117 wrote: Tread Loudly 2 wrote: I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? I dont hate all tanks... just kdr padding blaster scrubs. Yes, but how can you tell that that is what they are? I just created a new character for my son to mess around with. He wanted to do tanks. He can't do standard tanks or turrets yet nor does he know how to use the tank better so he's rolling around in a mil tank with a mil blaster. I hopped on too for some cheap fun. I do the same thing that a kd/r scrub would do GÇô shoot infantry and tanks with a blaster, lose a tank to AV etc. Why try to determine the intent of a tanker other than they are playing in a way that you don't like? Some people try to enjoy a game their way and other people seem to need this game to desperately prove some kind of pre-pubescent manhood and tanks apparently emasculate the player's epeen. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2066	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:53:00 - [27] - Quote theres a really simple explanation as to why people hate tanks. the first component is that to counter a tank they have to stop whatever they were doing (wich was whatever role they WANTED to play) and swap to a role they dont particularly want to play. the second component is SP, since in order to progress skill wise one needs to specialise into a specific role meaning people are more reluctant to spend SP on AV weaponry and suits as it would mean less SP to spend on things they actually want. those two components are why you see so much resistance to tanks and so much hatred towards vehicles in general. In short its because people are playing to have fun and play with items/weapons/suits they want to play with rather then playing with what they need to play with in order to win. while getting stomped by tanks is definatly not fun, niether is going out of your way to swap to an equally un-fun activity while spending SP you really wanted to spend elsewhere to do so. its a whole lot easyer to get angry because of tanks then it is to go out of your way not to enjoy doing whatever you feel like rather then being forced to swap to AV. there are two types of players, play for fun and play to win. play for fun doesnt want to be forced to do un-fun activities, whereas play to win will play whatever they need to to gain the biggest advantage for the current situation. Minmatar is Winmatar
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 358	Posted - 2014.08.18 18:01:00 - [28] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: People don't hate tanks, just the people who drive them. Their ***holes! You know this? Lol. Then so is every other person who would dare shoot someone's character in this game. HOW DARE THEY? What's good for the gooseGÇª THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Death Shadow117 New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 287	Posted - 2014.08.18 18:05:00 - [29] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Death Shadow117 wrote: Tread Loudly 2 wrote: I swear tanking is the most looked down upon out of all the other specializations so I'm just curious why do ground units hate us so much? I dont hate all tanks... just kdr padding blaster scrubs. Yes, but how can you tell that that is what they are? I just created a new character for my son to mess around with. He wanted to do tanks. He can't do standard tanks or turrets yet nor does he know how to use the tank better so he's rolling around in a mil tank with a mil blaster. I hopped on too for some cheap fun. I do the same thing that a kd/r scrub would do GÇô shoot infantry and tanks with a blaster, lose a tank to AV etc. Why try to determine the intent of a tanker other than they are playing in a way that you don't like? Some people try to enjoy a game their way and other people seem to need this game to desperately prove some kind of pre-pubescent manhood and tanks apparently emasculate the player's epeen. For 1 any tank with a blaster in my book is a kdr padding scrub and for 2 all of my tanks are made specifically to destroy enemy tanks. Like ive said before if you see tanks against me its only because i dont want to ruin the scrubs day. I always see tanks hiding in the redline when mine come out. Im not trying to prove a thing im trying to get my team on an equal playing feild with the enemy team. I hate seeing tanks on my team too i want everyone to have a chance at at least running in an open feild. Why?
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2475	Posted - 2014.08.18 18:07:00 - [30] - Quote Indestructible installations that don't affect infantry but skin vehicles alive fixes this. Improve your effectiveness, abrasive particle-removal technique. K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Beh!



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