Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?

Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..

Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..

Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?

Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..

Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..

Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?

Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..

Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..

Hotfix charlie is pre CPM1

So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes.
I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom.
Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were.

What's driving the buff to damage mods?

Wasn't TTK increased recently?

Around and around we go.

ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit

Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?

Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..

Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..

ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit

So basically you are saying that dozens and dozens of people providing feedback and figures in communication with developers is stupid, when they could have reached out to you and gotten all the answers?

The reason I hate smoky the bear is because he spelled smokey the bear wrong and dishonors the very likeness with rage threads, mostly bout mass drivers

I think that's what he's saying. Hard to tell with the name calling he just did. And i'm sure some of the folks here on the forums aren't tryhards.

So he flames in every thread? Oh the irony. And here I was looking up to him teaching me that only I can prevent forest fires.

ya ur right there grown up guy.. Ima just kill em with kindness from now on... You seen a movie or had a normal adult conversation in the last 50 years? ok then I think you probably heard a few "bad names" before.. grow up bra.. only teenagers point out stuff like this..

What's driving the buff to damage mods?

Wasn't TTK increased recently?

Around and around we go.

So basically you are saying that dozens and dozens of people providing feedback and figures in communication with developers is stupid, when they could have reached out to you and gotten all the answers?

and what you are saying is go with the majority? And you get that from people who post on forums? Since we all know that Assault IS THE MAJORITY.. it all makes sense.. you starting to see the light?

and what you are saying is go with the majority? And you get that from people who post on forums? Since we all know that Assault IS THE MAJORITY.. it all makes sense.. you starting to see the light?

I've been killed by only one dude in the last 6 months in PC wearing an assault suit, Tibs from OH with a SCR.

You need to get a new strain from your dealer, this one has you paranoid.

Can't go wrong with white widow

ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit

If you believed the opinions being given were biased you had every right to express your opossing opinion.
Futhermore what is actually the problem?

1) Gallante and Minmatar are getting buffed slot layouts with caldari and amarr rejigs to more accurately reflect their races preferred styles. This is good for the game because while you have freedom to fit what you like, you aren't going to be seeing many caldaris with more armour than shields.

2) Damage Mods are having their overnerf revoked, actually making them viable in comparison to extenders, therein discouraging brick tanking by the low slot heavy races and prehaps opening up the other opportunities for hih slots.

3) Swarm Launchers are having their damage output concentrated, so that STD, and ADV swarms are now a threat, this reduces the chances of tank stomping because even MLT swarms will now do a good amount of damage, all the while vehicles minimum survivability is buffed due to PRO swarms recieving a slight nerf.

4) Installations are being buffed to make them more pivitol in controlling the battlefield while then reduction to WP reward stops them being destroyed before the match really begins. It also forces tankers to take more care when entering enemy controlled areas less a turret be point right at them, forcing them to stick closer to their infantry and play more supportive roles.

5) Installation AI is being rebalanced, with it incapable of targeting infantry entirely and reducing initial lock-on to vehicles to within a 75m radius, further more the AI no longer dogs 1 player the entire match and missile turrets have been reduced to 250m range so they can no longer be used on dropships flying over the map actively participating in battle.

7) Nova Knives are being buffed to make them mkre rewarding and easier to use, plus receiving 50% effeciency to vehices (but not installations) adds yet another thing vehcile users have to consider.

8) HMG's are recieving a nerf via heat build up, which stops them from being able to maintain a stream of fire for such lomg periods, to the point where in the event of all else failing sheer numbers will now cause heavies to be fearful of more comprimising positions

The only thing that could be deemed problematic is the buff to pythons of which I personally believe to be too much, but only time will tell.

actually I did express my opinions loudly way before Charlie was announced.. I said that people would be looking to play the forum game to try to get their stuff buffed.. and wow amazing .. the majority won! big F'n surprise..
Its real simple math.. HEavys, scouts are the minorites hence all you see is posts that reflect this..

Wake up sheeple

el oh el...

This thread is funny... keep it up guys. The bad thing about free to play games is pre teens... but sometimes pre teens will come up with threads like this for pure entertainment.

Ya we have a whole corp full of preteen ganja smokers lol.. And BTW what happened when Escrow attacked the Smoking Gunz again? ooooo ya you got your ass handed to your then joined our Alliance .. MUAHHAHAHAHAHA keep trying mooofs

beats me man... i'm not really all that affiliated with ERA because I don't actually play Dust anymore and just recently unsubbed EVE. So... doesn't really affect me v0v.

You're clearly a pre-teen though.. either in age or just in maturity/personality

Only teens talk about peoples age..

You know, Smoky The Bear, I'm going to challenge you right now.

Post all of things in hotfix charlie that you see are wrong and biased IN DETAIL and provide your own suggestions to the alternative. If you can do that while also learning to take criticism from those around you, then I'll consider taking you seriously. Until then, have fun.

PS: Don't resort to name calling.

Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?

Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..

Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..

Just so you know, Kevall Longstride and Judge Rhadamanthus have recently been elected with Judge getting nearly 1/3 of the vote. Judge in particular is well known for being unbiased especially in his observations of any changes and knows the math behind them. You should see his videos. Kevall is mostly known for advocating proper corp management for CEOs and Directors. As for everything else, we'll have to wait and see.

Besides, the CPM1 was just recently elected late last month and are probably about to start their jobs. So cut them some slack, will ya?

ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit

XD smoky just got messed up by the entire forum community, by posting about charlie being biased and he is the most biased GG... gg lol

He made like 5 different threads saying assaults are OP and I chase fotm that's why I have all assaults proto.. Scouts are underpowered. This dude single handedly broke the QQ meter.

Umm he is pretty biased... If someone has already dictated the parameters of a debate before they even open it to be debated..

That is about as biased as you can get. Alot more then the simplistic understanding the average person has.

Judge debates "Fairness" in the bubble of his world and understanding of Pubstar gameplay.

Having a debate on the actual function and legitimacy of gameplay he is talking about doesnt even happen... It's just tweaking small things around the way he plays and the way people counter his play.

General understanding and big picture "WTF's" has always gone completely over his head.

Umm he is pretty biased... If someone has already dictated the parameters of a debate before they even open it to be debated..

That is about as biased as you can get. Alot more then the simplistic understanding the average person has.

Judge debates "Fairness" in the bubble of his world and understanding of Pubstar gameplay.

Having a debate on the actual function and legitimacy of gameplay he is talking about doesnt even happen... It's just tweaking small things around the way he plays and the way people counter his play.

General understanding and big picture "WTF's" has always gone completely over his head.

There's nothing to keep people playing with the suits far beyond the initial time period, no cloak or anything else. It's just going to make them a good frontline suit and nothing more.

So... is this guy a scout, or heavy? Or just a troll? I really can't tell at this point, but it seems rather hilarious that someone is raging about the assault suits getting a buff... or is it the heavy nerf coming up? That I can see being annoyed about, what with CCP giving a major buff to assaults and a relatively heavy nerf to... er, heavies. Hopefully it won't screw things up, but seriously. Can anyone really believe the assaults are going to become FoTM? They still won't be able to do anything special!

When Logies went that route, they had the option to tank huge amounts of HP while having high regen AND the ability to carry a mass of equipment.

Heavies have gone a similar route because of the power of the HMG and the massive amount of HP they can tank, nearly 2000 on a few.

Scouts sorta went that way with 1.8 due to the introduction of the cloak and the huge buff they received, but that has since died down to an extent. Decent amount of Gal and Cal scouts still running around, but they're certainly not a majority.

The assaults, however, aren't getting a single new item. No super weapons that can only be fit on them, no equipment, no awesome jetpack... they're just getting their eHP, CPU/PG, and slot layout increased... I don't even think the bonuses they get are being changed. Commando suits and heavies still have the ability to out damage them, scouts can out E-War them, and they certainly won't be able to compete with Logies on any level whatsoever... So my question is, how does something that can't do a single thing special or better than the suits meant to do those things become FoTM? Yea, I'm sure there will be more people using them, people will likely come out of the woodwork to test the suits, and the old assault players will start using their suits again on a regular basis, but... they get nothing special. There's nothing to keep people playing with the suits far beyond the initial time period, no cloak or anything else. It's just going to make them a good frontline suit and nothing more.

It's supposed to be THE good frontline suit. It's what Assaults are supposed to be. They are the generalist all-around killers.

That's exactly what an Assault is...Personally I'm gong to find tanked out Assaults on the battlefield and Logi them all day, or perhaps done my Minmatar Assault with over 400 shields, Two Kincats and Two Enhanced Reactive plates :)

And that's all it's going to be. That's my point. The assault suit will be good for once, but it won't have anything to make it necessarily fun. Take a Minmatar scout for example. They have knives, speed, and the ability to cloak, three things that can add longevity to the game for players that might otherwise be bored with the standard run and gun gameplay. Assaults however, won't be getting anything but the buffs mentioned before, and thus I feel like they won't become FoTM because there aren't any gimmicks to the suit. Was just mentioning that due to the amount of times I noticed the OP saying how assaults would be the new FoTM, not because I think they won't be good. ^~^

You'd be surprised at how much fun can be enhanced by not automatically being the B*tch of every FOTM chasing pubstar.

I have fun running around massacreing people with standard fit commandos. I have fun because I'm good at ganking stupid people, not because I have two light weapons.

And I have the skills needed to make standard commandos deadly.

These hotfixes are applying little plasters to the chopped off limbs of DUST514 while it bleeds out and CCP just watch while CPM hold it down and says 'shush it will be okay, only a little longer now'

You'd be surprised at how much fun can be enhanced by not automatically being the B*tch of every FOTM chasing pubstar.

I have fun running around massacreing people with standard fit commandos. I have fun because I'm good at ganking stupid people, not because I have two light weapons.

And I have the skills needed to make standard commandos deadly.

You weren't aware that you were an FOTM chasing pubstar by using your assault suit before CCP buffed it?

For shame.

Do not feed the trolls

what will they call they're stupid patches after hotfix zeta?

I would be unbiased, but I have a busy real life, so...

Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?

Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..

Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..

Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?

Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..

Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..