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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:31:00 -
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Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?
Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..
Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF.. |
Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
112
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:37:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?
Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..
Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF.. I would be unbiased, but I have a busy real life, so... |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4189
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:39:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?
Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..
Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..
What are you talking about?
Biased to what end?
What do the recent CPM elections have to do with Hotfix Charlie?
When did Dust get turned over to players?
Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet
PSN: wbrom42
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8992
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:45:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?
Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..
Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..
Just so you know, Kevall Longstride and Judge Rhadamanthus have recently been elected with Judge getting nearly 1/3 of the vote. Judge in particular is well known for being unbiased especially in his observations of any changes and knows the math behind them. You should see his videos. Kevall is mostly known for advocating proper corp management for CEOs and Directors. As for everything else, we'll have to wait and see.
Besides, the CPM1 was just recently elected late last month and are probably about to start their jobs. So cut them some slack, will ya?
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
319
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:45:00 -
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What's driving the buff to damage mods?
Wasn't TTK increased recently?
Around and around we go.
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2674
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:46:00 -
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Hotfix charlie is pre CPM1
Email Me [email protected]
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
11475
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:47:00 -
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So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
149
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:49:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Hotfix charlie is pre CPM1
Im talking about Rattatai.. I hope you keep your word and dont **** this game up any more than they already have..if thats possible.. I mean theres soooo much that could be done easily.. and its just the round robin buff/nerf game .. stupid |
Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
149
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:50:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were.
ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
11476
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:50:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:What's driving the buff to damage mods?
Wasn't TTK increased recently?
Around and around we go. Damage mod buff is still less than the original pre-1.8 values, and you have to keep in mind that assaults are gaining more base HP, and more slots, meaning they will take more to kill; this makes the damage mod buff arguably balanced for TTK in context to the assault HP buff.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8992
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:54:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were. ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit
Right there. RIGHT THERE! You lost all credibility. As soon as you revert to name calling, your argument becomes invalid. Have a nice day.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
2750
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:55:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?
Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..
Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..
1. These changes were in the works long before the new CPM took office 2. These were requested by the majority of the community; if you are sore that most people disagree with you, that is your own issue not outs
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4189
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:56:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were. ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit
So basically you are saying that dozens and dozens of people providing feedback and figures in communication with developers is stupid, when they could have reached out to you and gotten all the answers?
Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet
PSN: wbrom42
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
5023
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:59:00 -
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The reason I hate smoky the bear is because he spelled smokey the bear wrong and dishonors the very likeness with rage threads, mostly bout mass drivers
OP FOTM lacks cognition
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8995
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:59:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were. ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit So basically you are saying that dozens and dozens of people providing feedback and figures in communication with developers is stupid, when they could have reached out to you and gotten all the answers?
I think that's what he's saying. Hard to tell with the name calling he just did. And i'm sure some of the folks here on the forums aren't tryhards.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8995
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:02:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:The reason I hate smoky the bear is because he spelled smokey the bear wrong and dishonors the very likeness with rage threads, mostly bout mass drivers
So he flames in every thread? Oh the irony. And here I was looking up to him teaching me that only I can prevent forest fires.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
149
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:02:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were. ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit So basically you are saying that dozens and dozens of people providing feedback and figures in communication with developers is stupid, when they could have reached out to you and gotten all the answers? I think that's what he's saying. Hard to tell with the name calling he just did. And i'm sure some of the folks here on the forums aren't tryhards.
ya ur right there grown up guy.. Ima just kill em with kindness from now on... You seen a movie or had a normal adult conversation in the last 50 years? ok then I think you probably heard a few "bad names" before.. grow up bra.. only teenagers point out stuff like this.. |
Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
5023
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:The reason I hate smoky the bear is because he spelled smokey the bear wrong and dishonors the very likeness with rage threads, mostly bout mass drivers So he flames in every thread? Oh the irony. And here I was looking up to him teaching me that only I can prevent forest fires. Very ironic
OP FOTM lacks cognition
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8995
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:05:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:ya ur right there grown up guy.. Ima just kill em with kindness from now on... You seen a movie or had a normal adult conversation in the last 50 years? ok then I think you probably heard a few "bad names" before.. grow up bra.. only teenagers point out stuff like this..
I don't **** from the man who just resorted to name calling which is also something only kids resort to when confronted by someone more reasonable than him.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2901
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:05:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:What's driving the buff to damage mods?
Wasn't TTK increased recently?
Around and around we go. Except, thing is: they were more balanced back then they are now.
Only thing is that they're horrible for shield tankers since they have to choose between shield and damage, whereas armor had both armor and damage.
However, the NUMBERS were more appropriate than they are today. You had to invest SP to get 10% more damage, whereas now, you only get 2% more from STD at a heavy fitting cost.
The TTK will remain relatively the same since people will armor tank once again with damage mods and CR. In other words, everyone but newbies will be equals in terms of damage potential and EVERYONE will die instantly. Huh, I guess I just proved myself wrong hehe.
Oh, and perhaps snipers MIGHT become viable. Who knows? At least with a commando. |
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
150
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:08:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were. ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit So basically you are saying that dozens and dozens of people providing feedback and figures in communication with developers is stupid, when they could have reached out to you and gotten all the answers?
and what you are saying is go with the majority? And you get that from people who post on forums? Since we all know that Assault IS THE MAJORITY.. it all makes sense.. you starting to see the light? |
Games Haven
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
502
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:09:00 -
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I would prefer actual client updates. Get on it CPM1.
The struggle is real.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8997
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:12:00 -
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You know, Smoky The Bear, I'm going to challenge you right now.
Post all of things in hotfix charlie that you see are wrong and biased IN DETAIL and provide your own suggestions to the alternative. If you can do that while also learning to take criticism from those around you, then I'll consider taking you seriously. Until then, have fun.
PS: Don't resort to name calling.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4194
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:14:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were. ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit So basically you are saying that dozens and dozens of people providing feedback and figures in communication with developers is stupid, when they could have reached out to you and gotten all the answers? and what you are saying is go with the majority? And you get that from people who post on forums? Since we all know that Assault IS THE MAJORITY.. it all makes sense.. you starting to see the light?
I've been killed by only one dude in the last 6 months in PC wearing an assault suit, Tibs from OH with a SCR.
You need to get a new strain from your dealer, this one has you paranoid.
Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet
PSN: wbrom42
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8997
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:17:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:and what you are saying is go with the majority? And you get that from people who post on forums? Since we all know that Assault IS THE MAJORITY.. it all makes sense.. you starting to see the light?
I have been playing for the past week and most of the people I see in every match are either heavies, scouts, or logis. Not often do I see assaults.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
5025
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:18:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:
I've been killed by only one dude in the last 6 months in PC wearing an assault suit, Tibs from OH with a SCR.
You need to get a new strain from your dealer, this one has you paranoid.
Can't go wrong with white widow
OP FOTM lacks cognition
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
150
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:26:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
I've been killed by only one dude in the last 6 months in PC wearing an assault suit, Tibs from OH with a SCR.
You need to get a new strain from your dealer, this one has you paranoid.
Can't go wrong with white widow
Lemon Skunk baby... all the taste half the paranoia |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3252
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:39:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were. ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit
If you believed the opinions being given were biased you had every right to express your opossing opinion. Futhermore what is actually the problem?
1) Gallante and Minmatar are getting buffed slot layouts with caldari and amarr rejigs to more accurately reflect their races preferred styles. This is good for the game because while you have freedom to fit what you like, you aren't going to be seeing many caldaris with more armour than shields.
2) Damage Mods are having their overnerf revoked, actually making them viable in comparison to extenders, therein discouraging brick tanking by the low slot heavy races and prehaps opening up the other opportunities for hih slots.
3) Swarm Launchers are having their damage output concentrated, so that STD, and ADV swarms are now a threat, this reduces the chances of tank stomping because even MLT swarms will now do a good amount of damage, all the while vehicles minimum survivability is buffed due to PRO swarms recieving a slight nerf.
4) Installations are being buffed to make them more pivitol in controlling the battlefield while then reduction to WP reward stops them being destroyed before the match really begins. It also forces tankers to take more care when entering enemy controlled areas less a turret be point right at them, forcing them to stick closer to their infantry and play more supportive roles.
5) Installation AI is being rebalanced, with it incapable of targeting infantry entirely and reducing initial lock-on to vehicles to within a 75m radius, further more the AI no longer dogs 1 player the entire match and missile turrets have been reduced to 250m range so they can no longer be used on dropships flying over the map actively participating in battle.
7) Nova Knives are being buffed to make them mkre rewarding and easier to use, plus receiving 50% effeciency to vehices (but not installations) adds yet another thing vehcile users have to consider.
8) HMG's are recieving a nerf via heat build up, which stops them from being able to maintain a stream of fire for such lomg periods, to the point where in the event of all else failing sheer numbers will now cause heavies to be fearful of more comprimising positions
The only thing that could be deemed problematic is the buff to pythons of which I personally believe to be too much, but only time will tell.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
150
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:46:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were. ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit If you believed the opinions being given were biased you had every right to express your opossing opinion. Futhermore what is actually the problem? 1) Gallante and Minmatar are getting buffed slot layouts with caldari and amarr rejigs to more accurately reflect their races preferred styles. This is good for the game because while you have freedom to fit what you like, you aren't going to be seeing many caldaris with more armour than shields. 2) Damage Mods are having their overnerf revoked, actually making them viable in comparison to extenders, therein discouraging brick tanking by the low slot heavy races and prehaps opening up the other opportunities for hih slots. 3) Swarm Launchers are having their damage output concentrated, so that STD, and ADV swarms are now a threat, this reduces the chances of tank stomping because even MLT swarms will now do a good amount of damage, all the while vehicles minimum survivability is buffed due to PRO swarms recieving a slight nerf. 4) Installations are being buffed to make them more pivitol in controlling the battlefield while then reduction to WP reward stops them being destroyed before the match really begins. It also forces tankers to take more care when entering enemy controlled areas less a turret be point right at them, forcing them to stick closer to their infantry and play more supportive roles. 5) Installation AI is being rebalanced, with it incapable of targeting infantry entirely and reducing initial lock-on to vehicles to within a 75m radius, further more the AI no longer dogs 1 player the entire match and missile turrets have been reduced to 250m range so they can no longer be used on dropships flying over the map actively participating in battle. 7) Nova Knives are being buffed to make them mkre rewarding and easier to use, plus receiving 50% effeciency to vehices (but not installations) adds yet another thing vehcile users have to consider. 8) HMG's are recieving a nerf via heat build up, which stops them from being able to maintain a stream of fire for such lomg periods, to the point where in the event of all else failing sheer numbers will now cause heavies to be fearful of more comprimising positions The only thing that could be deemed problematic is the buff to pythons of which I personally believe to be too much, but only time will tell.
actually I did express my opinions loudly way before Charlie was announced.. I said that people would be looking to play the forum game to try to get their stuff buffed.. and wow amazing .. the majority won! big F'n surprise.. Its real simple math.. HEavys, scouts are the minorites hence all you see is posts that reflect this..
Wake up sheeple
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
3185
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:53:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:
actually I did express my opinions loudly way before Charlie was announced.. I said that people would be looking to play the forum game to try to get their stuff buffed.. and wow amazing .. the majority won! big F'n surprise.. Its real simple math.. HEavys, scouts are the minorites hence all you see is posts that reflect this..
Wake up sheeple
el oh el...
This thread is funny... keep it up guys. The bad thing about free to play games is pre teens... but sometimes pre teens will come up with threads like this for pure entertainment.
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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