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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:56:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:
actually I did express my opinions loudly way before Charlie was announced.. I said that people would be looking to play the forum game to try to get their stuff buffed.. and wow amazing .. the majority won! big F'n surprise.. Its real simple math.. HEavys, scouts are the minorites hence all you see is posts that reflect this..
Wake up sheeple
el oh el... This thread is funny... keep it up guys. The bad thing about free to play games is pre teens... but sometimes pre teens will come up with threads like this for pure entertainment.
Ya we have a whole corp full of preteen ganja smokers lol.. And BTW what happened when Escrow attacked the Smoking Gunz again? ooooo ya you got your ass handed to your then joined our Alliance .. MUAHHAHAHAHAHA keep trying mooofs |
ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
3185
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Posted - 2014.08.10 00:00:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:
actually I did express my opinions loudly way before Charlie was announced.. I said that people would be looking to play the forum game to try to get their stuff buffed.. and wow amazing .. the majority won! big F'n surprise.. Its real simple math.. HEavys, scouts are the minorites hence all you see is posts that reflect this..
Wake up sheeple
el oh el... This thread is funny... keep it up guys. The bad thing about free to play games is pre teens... but sometimes pre teens will come up with threads like this for pure entertainment. Ya we have a whole corp full of preteen ganja smokers lol.. And BTW what happened when Escrow attacked the Smoking Gunz again? ooooo ya you got your ass handed to your then joined our Alliance .. MUAHHAHAHAHAHA keep trying mooofs
beats me man... i'm not really all that affiliated with ERA because I don't actually play Dust anymore and just recently unsubbed EVE. So... doesn't really affect me v0v.
You're clearly a pre-teen though.. either in age or just in maturity/personality
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
150
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Posted - 2014.08.10 00:01:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:
actually I did express my opinions loudly way before Charlie was announced.. I said that people would be looking to play the forum game to try to get their stuff buffed.. and wow amazing .. the majority won! big F'n surprise.. Its real simple math.. HEavys, scouts are the minorites hence all you see is posts that reflect this..
Wake up sheeple
el oh el... This thread is funny... keep it up guys. The bad thing about free to play games is pre teens... but sometimes pre teens will come up with threads like this for pure entertainment. Ya we have a whole corp full of preteen ganja smokers lol.. And BTW what happened when Escrow attacked the Smoking Gunz again? ooooo ya you got your ass handed to your then joined our Alliance .. MUAHHAHAHAHAHA keep trying mooofs beats me man... i'm not really all that affiliated with ERA because I don't actually play Dust anymore and just recently unsubbed EVE. So... doesn't really affect me v0v. You're clearly a pre-teen though.. either in age or just in maturity/personality
Only teens talk about peoples age..
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
3185
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Posted - 2014.08.10 00:28:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote: Only teens talk about peoples age..
I'm just trying to get on your level.. I find it hard to speak to children...
Maken Tosch wrote:You know, Smoky The Bear, I'm going to challenge you right now.
Post all of things in hotfix charlie that you see are wrong and biased IN DETAIL and provide your own suggestions to the alternative. If you can do that while also learning to take criticism from those around you, then I'll consider taking you seriously. Until then, have fun.
PS: Don't resort to name calling.
I would say this is a great response to this thread, except I don't think the OP is old enough to know math yet...
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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Spectre-M
The Generals Anime Empire.
683
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Posted - 2014.08.10 00:49:00 -
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So you want unbiased CPM, but want a specifically "scout" CPM member? Do you even know what biased means????
Minnmitar in Amarr armor.
A Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2706
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Posted - 2014.08.10 02:41:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?
Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..
Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF..
That's a pretty amusing accusation since the changes in Charlie were basically decided on before CPM1 took office.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3091
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Posted - 2014.08.10 02:45:00 -
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Still complaining about the assaults but which of the CPM members use an assault? I've never seen so much QQ from one player. And the buff hasn't even happened yet.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1159
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:26:00 -
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what will they call they're stupid patches after hotfix zeta?
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Crashy Mc Boom-bewm
The United Socialist Liberation Front
49
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:41:00 -
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What climbed up your butt and died? But seriously, whats wrong with the changes in hotfix charlie?
If at first it doesn't work, beat it with a brick.
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1768
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Posted - 2014.08.10 04:01:00 -
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I don't know who or what you are referring to, but you clearly don't understand CPM and I'm not going to explain it to you. Furthermore if you think scouts are in a bad place you are bias
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
2341
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Posted - 2014.08.10 04:07:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?
Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..
Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF.. Just so you know, Kevall Longstride and Judge Rhadamanthus have recently been elected with Judge getting nearly 1/3 of the vote. Judge in particular is well known for being unbiased especially in his observations of any changes and knows the math behind them. You should see his videos. Kevall is mostly known for advocating proper corp management for CEOs and Directors. As for everything else, we'll have to wait and see. Besides, the CPM1 was just recently elected late last month and are probably about to start their jobs. So cut them some slack, will ya?
Umm he is pretty biased... If someone has already dictated the parameters of a debate before they even open it to be debated..
That is about as biased as you can get. Alot more then the simplistic understanding the average person has.
Judge debates "Fairness" in the bubble of his world and understanding of Pubstar gameplay.
Having a debate on the actual function and legitimacy of gameplay he is talking about doesnt even happen... It's just tweaking small things around the way he plays and the way people counter his play.
General understanding and big picture "WTF's" has always gone completely over his head. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1836
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Posted - 2014.08.10 05:39:00 -
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8/10
Nice troll thread. Managed to keep it going for three pages with incoherent ranting.
Subtlety would have gotten you a 10. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1032
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:37:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:So a whiny scout has a problem with hotfixes, but lists no specific issue with the content of the hitfixes. I'll go ahead and assume you have no clue what's actually in Hotfix Charlie, so here is the spreadsheet (click it), its organized into different categories that you can switch between by clicking the tabs on the bottom. Its also downright silly to think the CPM are responsible for hotfixes, CCP Rattati made a ton of threads to gather feedback from everyone, and the final products of the feedback determined what the content of the hotfixes were. ya he made a ton of threads for the tryhard forum warriors to comment on and get what they want with a quickness.. thats the point dipshit
Obviously what was missing was the constructive and specific information posts like yours imparts. You should have run for CPM.
Because, that's why.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
326
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Posted - 2014.08.10 11:31:00 -
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XD smoky just got messed up by the entire forum community, by posting about charlie being biased and he is the most biased GG... gg lol
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3098
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:02:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:XD smoky just got messed up by the entire forum community, by posting about charlie being biased and he is the most biased GG... gg lol He made like 5 different threads saying assaults are OP and I chase fotm that's why I have all assaults proto.. Scouts are underpowered. This dude single handedly broke the QQ meter.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:18:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:XD smoky just got messed up by the entire forum community, by posting about charlie being biased and he is the most biased GG... gg lol He made like 5 different threads saying assaults are OP and I chase fotm that's why I have all assaults proto.. Scouts are underpowered. This dude single handedly broke the QQ meter.
I'm pretty sure we could power an Erebus and support fleet of Nyx with these tears alone. |
ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.10 13:12:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?
Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..
Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF.. Just so you know, Kevall Longstride and Judge Rhadamanthus have recently been elected with Judge getting nearly 1/3 of the vote. Judge in particular is well known for being unbiased especially in his observations of any changes and knows the math behind them. You should see his videos. Kevall is mostly known for advocating proper corp management for CEOs and Directors. As for everything else, we'll have to wait and see. Besides, the CPM1 was just recently elected late last month and are probably about to start their jobs. So cut them some slack, will ya? Umm he is pretty biased... If someone has already dictated the parameters of a debate before they even open it to be debated.. That is about as biased as you can get. Alot more then the simplistic understanding the average person has. Judge debates "Fairness" in the bubble of his world and understanding of Pubstar gameplay. Having a debate on the actual function and legitimacy of gameplay he is talking about doesnt even happen... It's just tweaking small things around the way he plays and the way people counter his play. General understanding and big picture "WTF's" has always gone completely over his head.
This
Escrow Removal and Acquisition- Our ERA has only just begun...
Gym Bro/ Meat Head -- CrossFit enthusiast
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
9010
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:15:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Most of these changes are completely biased and WRONG.. So we just gonna keep electing CPM's who once they get elected will make sure to buff themselves up nicely?
Can we get someone who would make decisions fairly please? anyone ? who would pledge to be completely unbiased? didnt think so.. game is doomed sooner than expected.. when you turn it over to players who are selfish and arrogant..
Do we have to elect a "scout" cpm to get anything done right? i mean WTF.. Just so you know, Kevall Longstride and Judge Rhadamanthus have recently been elected with Judge getting nearly 1/3 of the vote. Judge in particular is well known for being unbiased especially in his observations of any changes and knows the math behind them. You should see his videos. Kevall is mostly known for advocating proper corp management for CEOs and Directors. As for everything else, we'll have to wait and see. Besides, the CPM1 was just recently elected late last month and are probably about to start their jobs. So cut them some slack, will ya? Umm he is pretty biased... If someone has already dictated the parameters of a debate before they even open it to be debated.. That is about as biased as you can get. Alot more then the simplistic understanding the average person has. Judge debates "Fairness" in the bubble of his world and understanding of Pubstar gameplay. Having a debate on the actual function and legitimacy of gameplay he is talking about doesnt even happen... It's just tweaking small things around the way he plays and the way people counter his play. General understanding and big picture "WTF's" has always gone completely over his head.
I guess you have a point, although I don't think Judge has put himself into his own little world as you put it especially after watching all of his videos covering all the problems with vehicles and AV weaponry while backing it all up with math. If you recall, he even went as far as to say in one of the videos that the issue the community had with dropships and swarms (just as an example) is a very complicated one at its core even though it looks simple on the surface and that the community and CCP needs to be extra careful with this.
But I have to ask. What do you think of the new members like Cross Atu, Sir Man Boy, and the rest?
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
751
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:40:00 -
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So... is this guy a scout, or heavy? Or just a troll? I really can't tell at this point, but it seems rather hilarious that someone is raging about the assault suits getting a buff... or is it the heavy nerf coming up? That I can see being annoyed about, what with CCP giving a major buff to assaults and a relatively heavy nerf to... er, heavies. Hopefully it won't screw things up, but seriously. Can anyone really believe the assaults are going to become FoTM? They still won't be able to do anything special!
When Logies went that route, they had the option to tank huge amounts of HP while having high regen AND the ability to carry a mass of equipment.
Heavies have gone a similar route because of the power of the HMG and the massive amount of HP they can tank, nearly 2000 on a few.
Scouts sorta went that way with 1.8 due to the introduction of the cloak and the huge buff they received, but that has since died down to an extent. Decent amount of Gal and Cal scouts still running around, but they're certainly not a majority.
The assaults, however, aren't getting a single new item. No super weapons that can only be fit on them, no equipment, no awesome jetpack... they're just getting their eHP, CPU/PG, and slot layout increased... I don't even think the bonuses they get are being changed. Commando suits and heavies still have the ability to out damage them, scouts can out E-War them, and they certainly won't be able to compete with Logies on any level whatsoever... So my question is, how does something that can't do a single thing special or better than the suits meant to do those things become FoTM? Yea, I'm sure there will be more people using them, people will likely come out of the woodwork to test the suits, and the old assault players will start using their suits again on a regular basis, but... they get nothing special. There's nothing to keep people playing with the suits far beyond the initial time period, no cloak or anything else. It's just going to make them a good frontline suit and nothing more.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1864
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:31:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:There's nothing to keep people playing with the suits far beyond the initial time period, no cloak or anything else. It's just going to make them a good frontline suit and nothing more.
It's supposed to be THE good frontline suit. It's what Assaults are supposed to be. They are the generalist all-around killers. |
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501st Headstrong
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
464
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:32:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:So... is this guy a scout, or heavy? Or just a troll? I really can't tell at this point, but it seems rather hilarious that someone is raging about the assault suits getting a buff... or is it the heavy nerf coming up? That I can see being annoyed about, what with CCP giving a major buff to assaults and a relatively heavy nerf to... er, heavies. Hopefully it won't screw things up, but seriously. Can anyone really believe the assaults are going to become FoTM? They still won't be able to do anything special!
When Logies went that route, they had the option to tank huge amounts of HP while having high regen AND the ability to carry a mass of equipment.
Heavies have gone a similar route because of the power of the HMG and the massive amount of HP they can tank, nearly 2000 on a few.
Scouts sorta went that way with 1.8 due to the introduction of the cloak and the huge buff they received, but that has since died down to an extent. Decent amount of Gal and Cal scouts still running around, but they're certainly not a majority.
The assaults, however, aren't getting a single new item. No super weapons that can only be fit on them, no equipment, no awesome jetpack... they're just getting their eHP, CPU/PG, and slot layout increased... I don't even think the bonuses they get are being changed. Commando suits and heavies still have the ability to out damage them, scouts can out E-War them, and they certainly won't be able to compete with Logies on any level whatsoever... So my question is, how does something that can't do a single thing special or better than the suits meant to do those things become FoTM? Yea, I'm sure there will be more people using them, people will likely come out of the woodwork to test the suits, and the old assault players will start using their suits again on a regular basis, but... they get nothing special. There's nothing to keep people playing with the suits far beyond the initial time period, no cloak or anything else. It's just going to make them a good frontline suit and nothing more.
That's exactly what an Assault is...Personally I'm gong to find tanked out Assaults on the battlefield and Logi them all day, or perhaps done my Minmatar Assault with over 400 shields, Two Kincats and Two Enhanced Reactive plates :)
I miss the old GAM crew :(
RESPEC PLEASE After Delta
CEO of GODS AMONG MEN
Clone Wars forever #Starwars: Battlefront
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Spectre-M
The Generals Anime Empire.
697
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:22:00 -
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I still think assaults unique trait should be shield/armor regen.
Having them bounce back quickly would fall in line with them being able to keep the front lines going.
Minnmitar in Amarr armor.
A Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
758
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:53:00 -
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Quote:It's supposed to be THE good frontline suit. It's what Assaults are supposed to be. They are the generalist all-around killers.
Quote:That's exactly what an Assault is...Personally I'm gong to find tanked out Assaults on the battlefield and Logi them all day, or perhaps done my Minmatar Assault with over 400 shields, Two Kincats and Two Enhanced Reactive plates :)
And that's all it's going to be. That's my point. The assault suit will be good for once, but it won't have anything to make it necessarily fun. Take a Minmatar scout for example. They have knives, speed, and the ability to cloak, three things that can add longevity to the game for players that might otherwise be bored with the standard run and gun gameplay. Assaults however, won't be getting anything but the buffs mentioned before, and thus I feel like they won't become FoTM because there aren't any gimmicks to the suit. Was just mentioning that due to the amount of times I noticed the OP saying how assaults would be the new FoTM, not because I think they won't be good. ^~^
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1873
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:57:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote: And that's all it's going to be. That's my point. The assault suit will be good for once, but it won't have anything to make it necessarily fun. Take a Minmatar scout for example. They have knives, speed, and the ability to cloak, three things that can add longevity to the game for players that might otherwise be bored with the standard run and gun gameplay. Assaults however, won't be getting anything but the buffs mentioned before, and thus I feel like they won't become FoTM because there aren't any gimmicks to the suit. Was just mentioning that due to the amount of times I noticed the OP saying how assaults would be the new FoTM, not because I think they won't be good. ^~^
You'd be surprised at how much fun can be enhanced by not automatically being the B*tch of every FOTM chasing pubstar.
I have fun running around massacreing people with standard fit commandos. I have fun because I'm good at ganking stupid people, not because I have two light weapons.
And I have the skills needed to make standard commandos deadly. |
Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
758
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:28:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote: And that's all it's going to be. That's my point. The assault suit will be good for once, but it won't have anything to make it necessarily fun. Take a Minmatar scout for example. They have knives, speed, and the ability to cloak, three things that can add longevity to the game for players that might otherwise be bored with the standard run and gun gameplay. Assaults however, won't be getting anything but the buffs mentioned before, and thus I feel like they won't become FoTM because there aren't any gimmicks to the suit. Was just mentioning that due to the amount of times I noticed the OP saying how assaults would be the new FoTM, not because I think they won't be good. ^~^
You'd be surprised at how much fun can be enhanced by not automatically being the B*tch of every FOTM chasing pubstar. I have fun running around massacreing people with standard fit commandos. I have fun because I'm good at ganking stupid people, not because I have two light weapons. And I have the skills needed to make standard commandos deadly.
Hey, if you have fun doing that, great! More power to you. I'm just saying that a lot of people likely won't stick with the assault because there's nothing special about it, thus the people who truly enjoy it and have used it for a long time hopefully won't have to deal with being called FoTM chasers every time they use their suits.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
45
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:59:00 -
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Just ran into this guy in pubs. He's hilariously terrible. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3703
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:10:00 -
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These hotfixes are applying little plasters to the chopped off limbs of DUST514 while it bleeds out and CCP just watch while CPM hold it down and says 'shush it will be okay, only a little longer now' |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1890
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:12:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:These hotfixes are applying little plasters to the chopped off limbs of DUST514 while it bleeds out and CCP just watch while CPM hold it down and says 'shush it will be okay, only a little longer now'
He knows too much... He must be silenced... |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
337
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:21:00 -
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Only thing I regret about hotfix charlie is that since last September i've been running minmitar and I respecced to Caldari in 1.8 because they were better dual tanks and minmitar was always lagging behind in almost everything except speed. Dual tanking was what I wanted and made the mistake of believing minmitar were the dual tanks since CCP was bad at balance and made Caldari the shield tankers the real dual tankers. Now that they are being buffed to be the dual tankers I wanted them to be I'm stuck with the new Caldari that has horrible layouts in the heavy category (No lows on std heavy or adv calmmando) a suit with no armor rep is pretty garbage especially for the shield heavy that is supposed to be the most independant of a logi repper.
No matter what I do I always get boned by changes for not even going FOTM... got owned back when they fixed speed tanking for being Minmitar. Got nerfed again when they buffed armor tanking. Got nerfed when they made minmitar more shield reliant in a game with assault rifles and scrambler rifles with less shields then the caldari. Getting nerfed when my crystal ball stopped working and I respecced caldari in 1.8 since minmitar was an inferior dual tanker all this time up until NOW... oh well, guess I just need to git gud again. CCP always ******* me inadvertently then telling me I have to live with their decisions (Cause they sure as **** weren't my decisions based on what I wanted that got changed...) |
Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
223
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:48:00 -
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Do not feed the trolls
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
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