You see sir, what you need to do in this situation is call a dropship on top of them. I have an ADS, so I call one on some of them, then go to slaying.

The zoom on the Thales is so great that you need to be far away. On that particular map the redline is the perfect spot to use a Thales from.

Yea i agree stop scruby sniping from the redline no risk high reward

But what about sniping scrubby snipers INTO the redline? I think I just cooked up a countersniper sentinel fit in my brain.

Expect to be able to cook bacon in the inferno caused by me thinking again.

This has been talked about since closed beta.. But snipers suck compared to back then.. Back then a charge sniper was std and could 1 shot any heavy... Broken DMG mods on a cal logi.. I agree with you but in a way they have fixed it by a lot..

Please keep in mind that this game needs snipers just like any other role, just not redline snipers.

So what am i supposed to do when nyain san brings in a squad? Fight? In my one advanced logi suit with a basic rail gun while they are smashing our team with super scouts from hell? Getting wasted as i spawn in? Noty. Matches like that when u can't take 2 steps without a scout alakazaming out of nowhere and blowing you away, i'm gonna snipe. I'll take that milita sniper rifle any day and you can find me deep in the bowels of the red line getting 1-3 kills max. Ill cheer you on though because i'm a good guy.

Umm no. Dust only needs the sniper to kill the redline vagina's. The sniper's role in this game is pretty useless when it comes to objectives now. (It WAS very usefull when PC started) Now not so much.

I'd take 5 infantry over 20 snipers any day. Snipers dont win games.

Umm no. Dust only needs the sniper to kill the redline vagina's. The sniper's role in this game is pretty useless when it comes to objectives now. (It WAS very usefull when PC started) Now not so much.

I'd take 5 infantry over 20 snipers any day. Snipers dont win games.

Redline snipers don't, infield sniping can cause a world of problems in the sniper knows that intel is also his role.

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So what am i supposed to do when nyain san brings in a squad? Fight? In my one advanced logi suit with a basic rail gun while they are smashing our team with super scouts from hell? Getting wasted as i spawn in? Noty. Matches like that when u can't take 2 steps without a scout alakazaming out of nowhere and blowing you away, i'm gonna snipe. I'll take that milita sniper rifle any day and you can find me deep in the bowels of the red line getting 1-3 kills max. Ill cheer you on though because i'm a good guy.

How about removing the redline entirely? Both teams completely share the map, and can go wherever the raspberries go

So what am i supposed to do when nyain san brings in a squad? Fight? In my one advanced logi suit with a basic rail gun while they are smashing our team with super scouts from hell? Getting wasted as i spawn in? Noty. Matches like that when u can't take 2 steps without a scout alakazaming out of nowhere and blowing you away, i'm gonna snipe. I'll take that milita sniper rifle any day and you can find me deep in the bowels of the red line getting 1-3 kills max. Ill cheer you on though because i'm a good guy.

1.So the problem is that snipers were all nerfed to hell and back. meaning that they don't have the opportunity to be anything other than a non factor.

2. unfortunately it's the people like lightning mouse here who have caused quite so many problems, you see the dedicated snipers do it because it's the game that they enjoy playing and the best positions are frequently in the red line. even if the red line got completely removed they would still use the same positions. whereas the "usually ground troops" do it Because of the protection. as for the answer to that question lightning mouse, you either fight the good fight as it were or leave battle and get a different match which will be more fun, this is a game remember.

snipers are not really that bad, if it takes 1 shot to kill my scout 2 shots for my medium suit and 2 or 3 shots for my commando depending on the gun/damage mods. Do you want a OHK on more suits from extreme range? occasionally i will get out the c-15a sniper rifle and if i as non dedicated sniper can do well enough with it i see nothing wrong with its damage. being that any 'dedicated' sniper will be using a proto gun and will have maxed proficiency they should be doing alot better than me.

that being said not all maps suit sniping and there are not always ideal places to snipe from on those which are more suited to it. For those maps which don't suit sniping there is a rather simple solution, be useful and join the ground an pound. for more open maps unless your using your Thales ( with the better scope and rarity) be more dynamic and move with the battle. yes you may die but moving about to support your team will get you more WP's and appreciation from your team

I hate to say it, but this game punishes you for dying. I don't get upset with having 8 redline snipers on my side I just join them, why? Because, more than likely they would be useless on the frontline anyways, blame matchmaking.

The biggest thing and hardest thing, in my opinion, in this game to learn is to "Know when to hold them, and know when to fold them." I still screw this up sometimes but you will be better off in the long run albeit is less fun. A vote surrender option would be nice but don't count on CCP to do anything more than tweak values in these hotfixes.

What you are ignoring about the 8 bad snipers in your redline.... time and time again they turn out to be just as bad at frontlining and although this will end the match faster lowering the clone count, most players don't want to keep dying and get punished isk wise or in the very least meta wise on kd/r.

The best way I have found to play is to match your team's enthusiasm.

If they are getting into the nitty gritty you get your ass in there. If they are all hanging back just prepare to fail and either sneak around killing lone redberries or hang way back with the rest sniping in one way or another.

As everyone prides about this game, it's a team based and gear based shooter. If you are outmanned and outgunned just accept your fate and join the rest of the redline snipers until the match ends.

You just look like an ******* when you troll your team.

this is why they need to remove time based isk. isk should all be based on WP's only. I personally don't care about K/D i just try and try for my team. if i get 1300 WP on a battle where we get rolled over and the next persona gets 500 then 235 ect. which has happenes why do they deserve a reward for sitting in the battle and either sniping or MCC sitting?

If i get half or one third of the teams total points i deserve that proportion of the money. i have risked they have not