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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:30:00 -
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Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW...
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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Mr Hakyou
2
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:35:00 -
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Are you actually going to cry? |
ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:37:00 -
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Mr Hakyou wrote:Are you actually going to cry? why cry when I can let my gun convey my thoughts for me...
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die
689
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:38:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... But... If all the scouts die, Who will kill the heavy's?
Pie.
Forum warrior level 231423423
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:41:00 -
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Infine Sentinel wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... But... If all the scouts die, Who will kill the heavy's? Scouts lost that right when they decided to kill the heavy via nerfs rather then fighting honorably on the battle field...
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11078
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:41:00 -
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Scout users have been actively working with CCP Rattati & Logibro to do away with the "brick scout" and bring them in-line with where they should be in terms of balance (ie, not Super-Assault Dropsuits).
Sentinels on the other hand, are refusing to admit that there is a problem, and have insisted that everything is "working as intended", despite a heavy (hehe) amount of evidence to support the contrary. Not to mention, that they continued to cry and used astonishingly hypocritical arguments to nerf the Remote Explosives.
Sentinels are the new Uprising 1.7 Tankers.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Scout users have been actively working with CCP Rattati & Logibro to do away with the "brick scout" and bring them in-line with where they should be in terms of balance (ie, not Super-Assault Dropsuits). Sentinels on the other hand, are refusing to admit that there is a problem, and have insisted that everything is "working as intended", despite a heavy (hehe) amount of evidence to support the contrary. Not to mention, that they continued to cry and used astonishingly hypocritical arguments to nerf the Remote Explosives. Sentinels are the new Uprising 1.7 Tankers. Last I checked more medium suits were complaining about REs then heavy suits also if i'm not mistaken REs got buffed unless you don't consider 1750 damage a buff
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
1684
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:47:00 -
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FOTM heavy detected...
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando IV, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11079
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:52:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Last I checked more medium suits were complaining about REs then heavy suits also if i'm not mistaken REs got buffed unless you don't consider 1750 damage a buff I distinctly remember a mass movement from Sentinel users demanding that REs be nerfed. Though one would also consider 1250HP damage a nerf.
Also, I fail to see how the nerfs are so severe that it warranted the creation of this thread. You'll still be able to fit nearly all PRO Modules, and in the case of the HMG you'll simply need to actually manage your heat-sink.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
280
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:01:00 -
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Love one another.
*gives OP a hug*
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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mollerz
4483
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:03:00 -
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boring
Dingle Dust Berry.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:03:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Love one another.
*gives OP a hug*
Be careful! You might catch his lepresy! |
Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
1685
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:10:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:Love one another.
*gives OP a hug*
Be careful! You might catch his lepresy! Sound advice indeed...
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando IV, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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MythTanker
Haus of Triage
180
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Scout users have been actively working with CCP Rattati & Logibro to do away with the "brick scout" and bring them in-line with where they should be in terms of balance (ie, not Super-Assault Dropsuits). Sentinels on the other hand, are refusing to admit that there is a problem, and have insisted that everything is "working as intended", despite a heavy (hehe) amount of evidence to support the contrary. Not to mention, that they continued to cry and used astonishingly hypocritical arguments to nerf the Remote Explosives. Sentinels are the new Uprising 1.7 Tankers. You are wrong on many levels... The QQers are not sentinels. They are FOTM chasers...Now the true Beta/Uprisings heavies aknowledge their problem. Just because they didnt suck your **** over it doesn't mean that they didnt realise the abundance of CPU/PG and the Spam... Yea you hit a nerve by saying that...
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:25:00 -
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Can scouts still fit full proto? They should get a cpu pg nerf. It only makes sense. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1550
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:28:00 -
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I have a better question: When are we going to stop letting pansies hide behind alts?
If you want to post something semi-inflamatory OP then you need to man (or woman?) up and post it with your main. Hiding behind your alt only makes your argument seem weaker since it reflects your in ability to own your words.
Fun > Realism
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mollerz
4488
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:32:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:I have a better question: When are we going to stop letting pansies hide behind alts?
If you want to post something semi-inflamatory OP then you need to man (or woman?) up and post it with your main. Hiding behind your alt only makes your argument seem weaker since it reflects your in ability to own your words.
It would be cool if CCP just banned their IPs and PSNs for a month.
Dingle Dust Berry.
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
3719
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:33:00 -
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"NERF REs!"
-heavies
"Slightly balance the heavy suit and HMG"
-Everyone who isn't a heavy
"OMG STOP ASKING FOR NERFS!"
-heavies again
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1948
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:snip
Sentinels are the new Uprising 1.7 Tankers. Go home Atiim you're drunk.
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
672
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:50:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:"NERF REs!"
-heavies
"Slightly balance the heavy suit and HMG"
-Everyone who isn't a heavy
"OMG STOP ASKING FOR NERFS!"
-heavies again
Most I ever complained about was bleedout detonation and instant detonation flying death pizza. Then again I'm not a heavy I just play one on TV.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4700
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:58:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... I feel like I should not weigh in on this but I will.
The point of the thread was to put holes in your common argument that you need all that DPS on the HMG to fight shotgun scouts. It's asinine that in order to take out a target with less health you need more DPS, range, better damage profile,and cheaper fitting. I await the heat changes on the HMG in hopes that they will balance this monstrously unbalanced weapon.
There was no QQ in the thread. It was a constructive banter where there wasn't QQ as much as argument versus argument. Points were made and accepted. In the end, you have done nothing but bitched that your heavy suit is going through changes. It's not even a nerf like was pointed out, heavies will now have an all-time high pinnacle of HP. While it will in particular cause some weaponry sacrifices in the form of sidearm + nades, I have rarely seen a time where a heavy has had a need for them. But that's good. It's good that heavies will start having to make sacrifices, like every other suit. I sympathize with caldari sentinels though.
***** and moan all you like in the end logical balance will take it's course.
Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
362
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:01:00 -
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That damn shameless alt going and hating on scout users like that... assault users cry too you know? *drinks a crystal glass of tears*
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
973
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:05:00 -
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As both a Sentinel and Scout before it was "cool" I hate all of you equally. And it was one of my points I raised to Ratty that is helping to get the Sentinel suit changed.
So where do I fit in this debate? Oh wait, I don't, nor does anyone else who actually wants this game to be balanced rather than just slinging insults because they don't have the SP to have more than one suit.
/thread
We'll bang, OK?
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4700
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:06:00 -
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Lastly everyone had fun in the thread. It was good to enjoy a humorous thread but now Shameless Alt has to hate on it.
Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1949
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:15:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Lastly everyone had fun in the thread. It was good to enjoy a humorous thread but now Shameless Alt has to hate on it. You missed the point. He was posting a BS thread for the lulz in answer to your BS thread for the lulz.
All of us cool cynical types had a good laugh. It's a little late to be getting serious Bojo.
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4706
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:19:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Lastly everyone had fun in the thread. It was good to enjoy a humorous thread but now Shameless Alt has to hate on it. You missed the point. He was posting a BS thread for the lulz in answer to your BS thread for the lulz. All of us cool cynical types had a good laugh in both. It's a little late to be getting serious Bojo. He certainly did not convey that using words like "Reign of terror" and "bitching". Seemed more sincere....
Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
707
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:29:00 -
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In the year that I've been running Heavies, no matter how ****** up Heavies got, Scouts still bitched and whined in a litany of new daily threads.
Who farted?
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1949
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:33:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Lastly everyone had fun in the thread. It was good to enjoy a humorous thread but now Shameless Alt has to hate on it. You missed the point. He was posting a BS thread for the lulz in answer to your BS thread for the lulz. All of us cool cynical types had a good laugh in both. It's a little late to be getting serious Bojo. He certainly did not convey that using words like "Reign of terror" and "bitching". Seemed more sincere.... Doing things for "the lulz" isn't considered part of a civil or socially just situation. So naturally he went overboard, as did you. That's the whole point of that kind of social interaction.
ShamelessALT was just way more crude.
Maybe we need disclaimers so others don't take any of these threads seriously.
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
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iKILLu osborne
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
125
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:40:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:I have a better question: When are we going to stop letting pansies hide behind alts?
If you want to post something semi-inflamatory OP then you need to man (or woman?) up and post it with your main. Hiding behind your alt only makes your argument seem weaker since it reflects your in ability to own your words. in honor of kelso from that 70s' show "BURN!!!"
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the mcc those 10 ads's made me crap my dropsuit"
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:41:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Lastly everyone had fun in the thread. It was good to enjoy a humorous thread but now Shameless Alt has to hate on it. You missed the point. He was posting a BS thread for the lulz in answer to your BS thread for the lulz. All of us cool cynical types had a good laugh in both. It's a little late to be getting serious Bojo. He certainly did not convey that using words like "Reign of terror" and "bitching". Seemed more sincere.... Speak of the Devil and he shall appear... How could I NOT be sincere watching you vermin running around with cloaks and SGs. for all your complaints about the poor fat suits rarely if ever do i see a heavy out kill an invisible wallhacker. I even hear scouts complaining about the RE "nerfs"... as though its so terrible that proto REs doing 250 more damage then they used to is a bad thing. Thing like this are why I am fully convinced scouts will not stop crying until ALL OTHER SUITS ARE USELESS. I for one,being of sound mind and full of justice, will continue to call them out on their insidious agenda and tk any scum(read as scout) i see in FW. YOU. WILL. NOT. WIN.
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:42:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Lastly everyone had fun in the thread. It was good to enjoy a humorous thread but now Shameless Alt has to hate on it. You missed the point. He was posting a BS thread for the lulz in answer to your BS thread for the lulz. All of us cool cynical types had a good laugh in both. It's a little late to be getting serious Bojo. He certainly did not convey that using words like "Reign of terror" and "bitching". Seemed more sincere.... Doing things for "the lulz" isn't considered part of a civil or socially just situation. So naturally he went overboard, as did you. That's the whole point of that kind of social interaction. ShamelessALT was just way more crude. Maybe we need disclaimers so others don't take any of these threads seriously. Crude is such a crass word I prefer blunt xD
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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iKILLu osborne
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
125
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:52:00 -
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in all seriousness this has to be the saddest **** i've ever read a sentinel that has highest dps and ehp having a waaah session over a suit class that (if used as intended) has under 300-400 ehp in my eyes shameless you are a pathetic qq'er that belongs in cod's playerbase
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the mcc those 10 ads's made me crap my dropsuit"
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:56:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:in all seriousness this has to be the saddest **** i've ever read a sentinel that has highest dps and ehp having a waaah session over a suit class that (if used as intended) has under 300-400 ehp in my eyes shameless you are a pathetic qq'er that belongs in cod's playerbase TWO THINGS I'm not a heavy, I am many things not the least of which is annoying. Scouts whine about not being able to kill a heavy from the front so you tell me who the real COD fanbois are (hint its the scouts)
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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iKILLu osborne
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
125
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Posted - 2014.07.30 08:02:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:in all seriousness this has to be the saddest **** i've ever read a sentinel that has highest dps and ehp having a waaah session over a suit class that (if used as intended) has under 300-400 ehp in my eyes shameless you are a pathetic qq'er that belongs in cod's playerbase TWO THINGS I'm not a heavy, I am many things not the least of which is annoying. Scouts whine about not being able to kill a heavy from the front so you tell me who the real COD fanbois are (hint its the scouts) your presence on the forums is annoying and sir my viz scr on my c.scout rips through heavys like soft butter. as long as i have comfortable 25m i'm afraid of no sentinel no matter where there facing
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the mcc those 10 ads's made me crap my dropsuit"
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2014.07.30 08:24:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:in all seriousness this has to be the saddest **** i've ever read a sentinel that has highest dps and ehp having a waaah session over a suit class that (if used as intended) has under 300-400 ehp in my eyes shameless you are a pathetic qq'er that belongs in cod's playerbase TWO THINGS I'm not a heavy, I am many things not the least of which is annoying. Scouts whine about not being able to kill a heavy from the front so you tell me who the real COD fanbois are (hint its the scouts) your presence on the forums is annoying and sir my viz scr on my c.scout rips through heavys like soft butter. as long as i have comfortable 25m i'm afraid of no sentinel no matter where there facing If more people thought like you there wouldn't be a problem. However some people want to have easymode and not take the effort to think of counters. To those people(scouts) I simply say biomass for the good of the game.
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
148
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Posted - 2014.07.30 09:00:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasprites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this changeling infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red, and harass the midget 'til he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... Fixed.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos
Best song evar.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
714
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Posted - 2014.07.30 09:12:00 -
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The level of scout hatred seriously has me questioning whether or not it's an attempt at trolling...
Ah, let's see... address seriously, or...
Quote:Scouts whine about not being able to kill a heavy from the front so you tell me who the real COD fanbois are (hint its the scouts)
Not all scouts are CoD fanboys. There are plenty of other games with fast, run and gun gameplay... and some of us just like Nova Knives or originally got into it when it was actually hard.
Quote:How could I NOT be sincere watching you vermin running around with cloaks and SGs. for all your complaints about the poor fat suits rarely if ever do i see a heavy out kill an invisible wallhacker.
You must either play with extremely bad heavies, or a bunch of mr. mustard clones, because the amount of times I've watched heavies gun down scouts is exceptionally high, as is the number of times I've seen scouts gun down heavies. The deciding factor that it usually comes down to is that heavies don't tend to have very good situational awareness. Rarely will they actually turn around to check their six, they just seem to expect their high HP and HMG to save them from everything. Granted, this seems to go for most players. Rarely, even with scouts on the field, do I ever see people checking their surroundings. The tunnel vision is too **** high in this game!
As for the nerfs, playing with a number of different suits, I'm honestly more concerned over heavies when I'm in an assault suit or even a heavy suit than when I'm in a scout suit. At least with a scout, I can usually see them coming, but an assault or any other medium frame is extremely vulnerable to heavies. They're not fast enough to escape, they usually don't have the HP to tank it out, and the DPS is much lower on most rifles. Those guys are the ones suffering the most under this. For all the calls to nerf the scout (We'll be on our third one with Charlie I believe) the heavies haven't been touched in months, and I'd like to point out that it's not scouts being spammed right now. Why? Harder to use perhaps, though it's most likely due simply to the nerfs. They've come down to more reasonable levels... well, at least the Minmatar has... Poor Amarr doesn't even count as a scout yet. Don't worry, little guy, you'll be a real boy soon...
Hopefully this next update will fix the suits without breaking them, though I'd say wait with the nerfs until the data comes in for the new assaults. Balances need to be made, but we've already seen what happens when you give something a mass of buffs while nerfing the competition... kinda doubting the Assaults will ever have what it takes to become FoTM though.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1053
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Posted - 2014.07.30 09:36:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW...
-Saved for Later-
XD
J0LLY is a Streaker
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Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
137
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Posted - 2014.07.30 10:19:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW...
Scouts have been the least 'b*tching' part of this community. If anything, we're the most constructive of them (no insult meant to anyone). As an observer of these forums, where exactly have we been 'b*tching' as of late?
Do you know why scout players are the least 'b*tching' part of this community? When we die, we don't complain, for it was our fault for getting cocky or being unobservant of our surroundings... or that it was that f*cking caldari scout that shot us in the back.
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
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CHECHOMAN
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
511
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:10:00 -
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I also have a question to the creator of this post ;
SHAMELE... OR SHE-MALE... ?
EVE-LEGION-HISPANO.ES.TL/(^o=)\
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers IMMORTAL REGIME
647
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:22:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Scout users have been actively working with CCP Rattati & Logibro to do away with the "brick scout" and bring them in-line with where they should be in terms of balance (ie, not Super-Assault Dropsuits). Sentinels on the other hand, are refusing to admit that there is a problem, and have insisted that everything is "working as intended", despite a heavy (hehe) amount of evidence to support the contrary. Not to mention, that they continued to cry and used astonishingly hypocritical arguments to nerf the Remote Explosives. Sentinels are the new Uprising 1.7 Tankers.
really atiim? the real heavies acknowledge something is wrong, the fotm chasers are the ones who deny it, same with scouts. you cant say scouts want a fix but heavies dont. i was pissed off at the re nerf, and ive been running heavy since i started playing. ive asked rattati to fix the ludicrous range on hmgs, and the incredible amount of fitting room, and so have many other heavies. the fotm chasing scouts and heavies both deny something is wrong, and only the real sentinels and scouts are trying to fix it |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
990
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:37:00 -
[42] - Quote
Mr Hakyou wrote:Are you actually going to cry? die little scout noob and eat a bowl of d1cks while your at it.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Cass Caul
70
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Posted - 2014.07.30 13:47:00 -
[43] - Quote
Mobius Kaethis wrote:I have a better question: When are we going to stop letting pansies hide behind alts?
If you want to post something semi-inflamatory OP then you need to man (or woman?) up and post it with your main. Hiding behind your alt only makes your argument seem weaker since it reflects your in ability to own your words.
You're just jelly because no one knows you with or without an alt.
If you can't keep up, shut up.
Math is easy, you're just stupid.
The Empress of Alts
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
612
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Posted - 2014.07.30 14:03:00 -
[44] - Quote
Bojo The Mighty wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... I feel like I should not weigh in on this but I will. The point of the thread was to put holes in your common argument that you need all that DPS on the HMG to fight shotgun scouts. It's asinine that in order to take out a target with less health you need more DPS, range, better damage profile,and cheaper fitting. I await the heat changes on the HMG in hopes that they will balance this monstrously unbalanced weapon. There was no QQ in the thread. It was a constructive banter where there wasn't QQ as much as argument versus argument. Points were made and accepted. In the end, you have done nothing but bitched that your heavy suit is going through changes. It's not even a nerf like was pointed out, heavies will now have an all-time high pinnacle of HP. While it will in particular cause some weaponry sacrifices in the form of sidearm + nades, I have rarely seen a time where a heavy has had a need for them. But that's good. It's good that heavies will start having to make sacrifices, like every other suit. I sympathize with caldari sentinels though. ***** and moan all you like in the end logical balance will take it's course.
"The Chosen One will bring the force back into balance."
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that.
NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7911
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:59:00 -
[45] - Quote
This guy again?
King Thunderbolt is my number one fan.
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MythTanker
Haus of Triage
189
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Posted - 2014.07.30 16:03:00 -
[46] - Quote
This thread makes heavies look sooo bad... Move along nothing to see here gents
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1760
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Posted - 2014.07.30 16:17:00 -
[47] - Quote
MythTanker wrote:This thread makes heavies look sooo bad... Move along nothing to see here gents I think its safe to say that 85% of my hatred of heavies stems from this one guy....Whenever I'm killed by an HMG, i always picture a huge fat ginger with a neck beard named ShamelessALT grinning a ridiculous and insane smile, his bloodshot eyes feasting upon the prize...
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Give the Minja active dampening!
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:08:00 -
[48] - Quote
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:MythTanker wrote:This thread makes heavies look sooo bad... Move along nothing to see here gents I think its safe to say that 85% of my hatred of heavies stems from this one guy....Whenever I'm killed by an HMG, i always picture a huge fat ginger with a neck beard named ShamelessALT grinning a ridiculous and insane smile, his bloodshot eyes feasting upon the prize... How can you hate that which YOU created...? I am but nature's balance to YOUR incessant torrent of complaints about the poor heavies. And the best part is soon you will be adding assaults to your nerf hit list once you scouts realize that they are viable again. And I will be there howling with laughter saying I TOLD YOU SO... and that day will be a turning point when the non wallhackers say NO MORE and rise full of just indignation and overthrow the cloaked defilers of this sacred game and you scouts will know the feeling of being truly hunted for the first time. AND WE SHALL WIN!!!
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5590
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:17:00 -
[49] - Quote
Infine Sentinel wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... But... If all the scouts die, Who will kill the heavy's?
High cholesterol.
I'm free!
/o/
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
619
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:50:00 -
[50] - Quote
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:MythTanker wrote:This thread makes heavies look sooo bad... Move along nothing to see here gents I think its safe to say that 85% of my hatred of heavies stems from this one guy....Whenever I'm killed by an HMG, i always picture a huge fat ginger with a neck beard named ShamelessALT grinning a ridiculous and insane smile, his bloodshot eyes feasting upon the prize...
Gav you know what that means right? We shall devote our bloodthirsty NK to cutting up Heavies like knives on melted butter.
Time to go on a NK killing spree.
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that.
NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
619
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:53:00 -
[51] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:MythTanker wrote:This thread makes heavies look sooo bad... Move along nothing to see here gents I think its safe to say that 85% of my hatred of heavies stems from this one guy....Whenever I'm killed by an HMG, i always picture a huge fat ginger with a neck beard named ShamelessALT grinning a ridiculous and insane smile, his bloodshot eyes feasting upon the prize... How can you hate that which YOU created...? I am but nature's balance to YOUR incessant torrent of complaints about the poor heavies. And the best part is soon you will be adding assaults to your nerf hit list once you scouts realize that they are viable again. And I will be there howling with laughter saying I TOLD YOU SO... and that day will be a turning point when the non wallhackers say NO MORE and rise full of just indignation and overthrow the cloaked defilers of this sacred game and you scouts will know the feeling of being truly hunted for the first time. AND WE SHALL WIN!!!
I just have to say you're the worst troll I've ever seen. I'm surprised CCP hasn't banned you from the forums yet.
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that.
NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
619
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:56:00 -
[52] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW...
I'm going to have soooo much fun NKing you in matches now. That is if you're man enough to.
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that.
NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:59:00 -
[53] - Quote
Bormir1r wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:MythTanker wrote:This thread makes heavies look sooo bad... Move along nothing to see here gents I think its safe to say that 85% of my hatred of heavies stems from this one guy....Whenever I'm killed by an HMG, i always picture a huge fat ginger with a neck beard named ShamelessALT grinning a ridiculous and insane smile, his bloodshot eyes feasting upon the prize... How can you hate that which YOU created...? I am but nature's balance to YOUR incessant torrent of complaints about the poor heavies. And the best part is soon you will be adding assaults to your nerf hit list once you scouts realize that they are viable again. And I will be there howling with laughter saying I TOLD YOU SO... and that day will be a turning point when the non wallhackers say NO MORE and rise full of just indignation and overthrow the cloaked defilers of this sacred game and you scouts will know the feeling of being truly hunted for the first time. AND WE SHALL WIN!!! I just have to say you're the worst troll I've ever seen. I'm surprised CCP hasn't banned you from the forums yet. Why would CCP ban me? if they did that all of the "big name" scouts would go too
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:03:00 -
[54] - Quote
Bormir1r wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... I'm going to have soooo much fun NKing you in matches now. That is if you're man enough to. You cannot kill an Ideal... no matter how sharp your knife
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
291
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:13:00 -
[55] - Quote
People who do not want their FPTM getting hit a.k.a Scouts AND Heavies will cry back and forth when in reality they both need to be nerfed.
Darkness is a Beginning, you see, not an end.
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Michael Arck
5055
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:39:00 -
[56] - Quote
The thread title sounds like something a villain in a bond movie would utter lol
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:43:00 -
[57] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:The thread title sounds like something a villain in a bond movie would utter lol No Mr. Arck, I expect you to die
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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S-PANZA
Expert Intervention Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:50:00 -
[58] - Quote
What Ive observed is that some Heavies want to be able to do what Scouts do and some Scouts want to be able to do what Heavies do. The fact of the matter is they are on opposite sides of the spectrum in terms of strengths and weaknesses. Your favorite is the one closest to your play style. I have both and enjoy both but I dont expect both to have the same abilities.
For those that want to be the Jack -of-all-trades, theres the Assault suit which is trying to make a comeback with much needed buffs.
Instead of pointlessly arguing about how Heavies and Scouts are to blame , we should focus on making the Assault viable . |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7917
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:51:00 -
[59] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:How can you hate that which YOU created...? I am but nature's balance to YOUR incessant torrent of complaints about the poor heavies. And the best part is soon you will be adding assaults to your nerf hit list once you scouts realize that they are viable again. And I will be there howling with laughter saying I TOLD YOU SO... and that day will be a turning point when the non wallhackers say NO MORE and rise full of just indignation and overthrow the cloaked defilers of this sacred game and you scouts will know the feeling of being truly hunted for the first time. AND WE SHALL WIN!!! I think everyone's problem with you is that, instead of offering ideas to help balance and/or admitting that Heavies are OP/spammed, you insist on believeing that Heavies are being nerfed only due to Scouts QQing. Stop saying they have wallhacks and invisibility, and start offering some real feedback about Scouts/Heavies that makes your opinion worth a damn.
King Thunderbolt is my number one fan.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
622
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:53:00 -
[60] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Bormir1r wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... I'm going to have soooo much fun NKing you in matches now. That is if you're man enough to. You cannot kill an Ideal... no matter how sharp your knife
You can kill everybody who follows it.....
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that.
NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
288
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Posted - 2014.07.30 19:13:00 -
[61] - Quote
S-PANZA wrote:What Ive observed is that some Heavies want to be able to do what Scouts do and some Scouts want to be able to do what Heavies do. The fact of the matter is they are on opposite sides of the spectrum in terms of strengths and weaknesses. Your favorite is the one closest to your play style. I have both and enjoy both but I dont expect both to have the same abilities.
For those that want to be the Jack -of-all-trades, theres the Assault suit which is trying to make a comeback with much needed buffs.
Instead of pointlessly arguing about how Heavies and Scouts are to blame , we should focus on making the Assault viable .
So you're saying the mud slinging is the result of suit envy?
I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.07.30 19:35:00 -
[62] - Quote
Patrick57 wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:How can you hate that which YOU created...? I am but nature's balance to YOUR incessant torrent of complaints about the poor heavies. And the best part is soon you will be adding assaults to your nerf hit list once you scouts realize that they are viable again. And I will be there howling with laughter saying I TOLD YOU SO... and that day will be a turning point when the non wallhackers say NO MORE and rise full of just indignation and overthrow the cloaked defilers of this sacred game and you scouts will know the feeling of being truly hunted for the first time. AND WE SHALL WIN!!! I think everyone's problem with you is that, instead of offering ideas to help balance and/or admitting that Heavies are OP/spammed, you insist on believeing that Heavies are being nerfed only due to Scouts QQing. Stop saying they have wallhacks and invisibility, and start offering some real feedback about Scouts/Heavies that makes your opinion worth a damn. I do not seek worth among my peers, as I am but a martyr destined to be used abused and then thrown away... My crusade is to get people to wake up and REALIZE that screaming for nerfs just because the meta shifts slightly out of your favor is WRONG. Alas though, I fear my job will never be done as scouts, even with the incoming CPU PG and HMG nerfs, still cry for MORE NERFS before even letting the current changes be felt. Thus I shall continue to remind them that they are not the only ones who can whine, moan and fling poo to get what they want. I am merely less subtle about it...
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
881
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Posted - 2014.07.30 19:37:00 -
[63] - Quote
Bojo The Mighty wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... I feel like I should not weigh in on this but I will. The point of the thread was to put holes in your common argument that you need all that DPS on the HMG to fight shotgun scouts. It's asinine that in order to take out a target with less health you need more DPS, range, better damage profile,and cheaper fitting. I await the heat changes on the HMG in hopes that they will balance this monstrously unbalanced weapon. There was no QQ in the thread. It was a constructive banter where there wasn't QQ as much as argument versus argument. Points were made and accepted. In the end, you have done nothing but bitched that your heavy suit is going through changes. It's not even a nerf like was pointed out, heavies will now have an all-time high pinnacle of HP. While it will in particular cause some weaponry sacrifices in the form of sidearm + nades, I have rarely seen a time where a heavy has had a need for them. But that's good. It's good that heavies will start having to make sacrifices, like every other suit. I sympathize with caldari sentinels though. ***** and moan all you like in the end logical balance will take it's course. If all scouts popped up on the Heavy's radar whenever they're within 10m regardless of dampening, you'd have a point.
Scouts are a suit with the ability to literally run up behind a heavy undetected, or flank an entire building to come up from behind when spotted, in the time it takes said heavy to reach the corner and look around it, as well as capable of dodging through the stream of bullets, due to the hard angle of bullet fire, instead of a dynamic pass hit detection... then kill said heavy in 2-3 shots while strafing so fast that the heavy cannot follow with the gun reticule at close range....
So Yes, Scouts need to fall like flies if detected, because that is balance. Heavies fall if they get within a scout's range, so why is it unfair for a scout to fall if it is detected within the heavy's range? The role of presence is kind of in the name "Heavy"...
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
140
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Posted - 2014.07.30 20:00:00 -
[64] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Patrick57 wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:How can you hate that which YOU created...? I am but nature's balance to YOUR incessant torrent of complaints about the poor heavies. And the best part is soon you will be adding assaults to your nerf hit list once you scouts realize that they are viable again. And I will be there howling with laughter saying I TOLD YOU SO... and that day will be a turning point when the non wallhackers say NO MORE and rise full of just indignation and overthrow the cloaked defilers of this sacred game and you scouts will know the feeling of being truly hunted for the first time. AND WE SHALL WIN!!! I think everyone's problem with you is that, instead of offering ideas to help balance and/or admitting that Heavies are OP/spammed, you insist on believeing that Heavies are being nerfed only due to Scouts QQing. Stop saying they have wallhacks and invisibility, and start offering some real feedback about Scouts/Heavies that makes your opinion worth a damn. I do not seek worth among my peers, as I am but a martyr destined to be used abused and then thrown away... My crusade is to get people to wake up and REALIZE that screaming for nerfs just because the meta shifts slightly out of your favor is WRONG. Alas though, I fear my job will never be done as scouts, even with the incoming CPU PG and HMG nerfs, still cry for MORE NERFS before even letting the current changes be felt. Thus I shall continue to remind them that they are not the only ones who can whine, moan and fling poo to get what they want. I am merely less subtle about it...
Again, where the f*ck have scouts been complaining about heavies?
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.07.30 20:12:00 -
[65] - Quote
Temias Mercurial wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Patrick57 wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:How can you hate that which YOU created...? I am but nature's balance to YOUR incessant torrent of complaints about the poor heavies. And the best part is soon you will be adding assaults to your nerf hit list once you scouts realize that they are viable again. And I will be there howling with laughter saying I TOLD YOU SO... and that day will be a turning point when the non wallhackers say NO MORE and rise full of just indignation and overthrow the cloaked defilers of this sacred game and you scouts will know the feeling of being truly hunted for the first time. AND WE SHALL WIN!!! I think everyone's problem with you is that, instead of offering ideas to help balance and/or admitting that Heavies are OP/spammed, you insist on believeing that Heavies are being nerfed only due to Scouts QQing. Stop saying they have wallhacks and invisibility, and start offering some real feedback about Scouts/Heavies that makes your opinion worth a damn. I do not seek worth among my peers, as I am but a martyr destined to be used abused and then thrown away... My crusade is to get people to wake up and REALIZE that screaming for nerfs just because the meta shifts slightly out of your favor is WRONG. Alas though, I fear my job will never be done as scouts, even with the incoming CPU PG and HMG nerfs, still cry for MORE NERFS before even letting the current changes be felt. Thus I shall continue to remind them that they are not the only ones who can whine, moan and fling poo to get what they want. I am merely less subtle about it... Again, where the f*ck have scouts been complaining about heavies? Look up the post history of most if not all the "big name" scouts and you will find what you seek
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4759
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Posted - 2014.07.30 20:23:00 -
[66] - Quote
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: If all scouts popped up on the Heavy's radar whenever they're within 10m regardless of dampening, you'd have a point.
Scouts are a suit with the ability to literally run up behind a heavy undetected, or flank an entire building to come up from behind when spotted, in the time it takes said heavy to reach the corner and look around it, as well as capable of dodging through the stream of bullets, due to the hard angle of bullet fire, instead of a dynamic pass hit detection... then kill said heavy in 2-3 shots while strafing so fast that the heavy cannot follow with the gun reticule at close range....
So Yes, Scouts need to fall like flies if detected, because that is balance. Heavies fall if they get within a scout's range, so why is it unfair for a scout to fall if it is detected within the heavy's range? The role of presence is kind of in the name "Heavy"...
Strafing out an HMG point blank? I don't know if you got the memo but heavies have the same rotational speed as everyone else. If you can't even graze a scout in CQC with an HMG I don't know if there's hope for yall in general. Point blank the scout gets first shotgun round off they need two more. 2 more which will occupy the time slot of just under 2 seconds. To take out even a 700 HP scout takes under a second of HMG fire. Realistically you are looking at a 300 HP scout and that is well under half a second to dispose of.
Yes scouts need to fall like flies if detected but there is no need to have a death HMG that unbalanced against all suits to defend yourselves against one suit & one weapon. It outranges and out dps shotguns and is mounted on tissue paper suit and the best most heavies complain about is "dat strafe speed". As if strafe speed wasn't balanced by HP.......
Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3419
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Posted - 2014.07.30 20:52:00 -
[67] - Quote
Temias Mercurial wrote: Again, where the f*ck have scouts been complaining about heavies?
I post a weekly complaint about Heavies. Sometimes two. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine".
Prior to Bravo, I did the same about Tanks. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine".
Now before the fatties in the room rebut, I am very much aware that Scout suits are also spammed.
A number of old-school Scouts (myself included) have made every effort to see this corrected. We neither pretend nor claim that "everything is fine" and we call out the FotM chasers who do. We have identified key problems specific to our frame and have proposed to the Devs various means by which to correct them.
We do not want the crutch; we do not defend the crutch. Scouts want balance. Because balance is good for Dust.
In response to the OP, I would ask two questions:
1) If "everything is fine" then why are your suits so heavily spammed? 2) If Charlie doesn't fix your spam, what do you and your fellow fatties intend to do about it?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
3130
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:06:00 -
[68] - Quote
Bojo I am actually quite shocked...
The longer you play Dust, the more ******** you sound.
The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions
Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
160
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:11:00 -
[69] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW...
stop being a little whining cry baby.......just because us scouts make you look like a joke on the battle field don't mean they shouldn't exist....scrubs like you need either get good and stop QQing or STFU and GTFO of dust. |
Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4769
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:11:00 -
[70] - Quote
ReGnYuM wrote:Bojo I am actually quite shocked...
The longer you play Dust, the more ******** you sound. I've been playing Morrowind, actually That's why I'm so ********, because this god damn trader got lost in a god damn ash storm and I have to find his ******* ass and I've walked all over the god damn place looking for where he could hide and it just .... YYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Angers me
Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:20:00 -
[71] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote: Again, where the f*ck have scouts been complaining about heavies?
I post a weekly complaint about Heavies. Sometimes two. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Prior to Bravo, I did the same about Tanks. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Now before the fatties in the room rebut, I am very much aware that Scout suits are also spammed. A number of old-school Scouts (myself included) have made every effort to see this corrected. We neither pretend nor claim that "everything is fine" and we call out the FotM chasers who do. We have identified key problems specific to our frame and have proposed to the Devs various means by which to correct them. We do not want the crutch; we do not defend the crutch. Scouts want balance. Because balance is good for Dust.
In response to the OP, I would ask two questions: 1) If "everything is fine" then why are your suits so heavily spammed? 2) If Charlie doesn't fix your spam, what do you and your fellow fatties intend to do about it? I'm mildly glad you asked...
1) I never claimed everything was "fine" my bile and hatred are directed solely at those who want the heavy to go BACK to flaylock status(currently certain high profile scouts)
2) I firmly believe that the number of militia and light weapon heavy users will drop especially since the heavy weapon fitting bonus is only for the sentinel and the lowered cpu pg will not allow both a proto light weapon and full proto modules. then again wait till the hotfix drops see where the first couple of weeks go.
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
160
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:22:00 -
[72] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:[quote=Atiim]Scout users have been actively working with CCP Rattati & Logibro to do away with the "brick scout" and bring them in-line with where they should be in terms of balance (ie, not Super-Assault Dropsuits). Sentinels on the other hand, are refusing to admit that there is a problem, and have insisted that everything is "working as intended", despite a heavy (hehe) amount of evidence to support the contrary. Not to mention, that they continued to cry and used astonishingly hypocritical arguments to nerf the Remote Explosives. Sentinels are the new Uprising 1.7 Tankers. Last I checked more medium suits were complaining about REs then heavy suits also if i'm not mistaken REs got buffed unless you don't consider 1750 damage a buff [/quot]
Yet R/E still does 1250 at standard and 1500 at advanced, only proto is at 1750 and the times after deployment have been drastically increased.
I guess you have been looking at the wrong threads, because every single thread i seen about how the R/E needed to be nerfed was started by a heavy, because lets face the truth that every time people come up with a counter to heavies, they cry it's op and needs to be nerfed or they need to be buffed in response to the counter.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:22:00 -
[73] - Quote
843-Vika wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... stop being a little whining cry baby.......just because us scouts make you look like a joke on the battle field don't mean they shouldn't exist....scrubs like you need either get good and stop QQing or STFU and GTFO of dust. Your QQ makes my QQ sound like a mouse fart...
Edit L2Quote KKTHXBYE
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3421
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:29:00 -
[74] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote: I'm mildly glad you asked...
1) I never claimed everything was "fine" my bile and hatred are directed solely at those who want the heavy to go BACK to flaylock status(currently certain high profile scouts)
2) I firmly believe that the number of militia and light weapon heavy users will drop especially since the heavy weapon fitting bonus is only for the sentinel and the lowered cpu pg will not allow both a proto light weapon and full proto modules. then again wait till the hotfix drops see where the first couple of weeks go.
1. There has never been a higher profile a scout than Bojo the Mighty. While I cannot speak for the great Bojo himself, I can attest to the judicious and enlightened nature of his uniquely vast wisdom. As such, I cannot imagine that Bojo wishes for craptastic Heavies. To which high profile scouts do you refer?
2. Agreed. I think the Charlie tweaks will be a good start toward bringing an end to FotM status of both my suit and yours.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:57:00 -
[75] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote: I'm mildly glad you asked...
1) I never claimed everything was "fine" my bile and hatred are directed solely at those who want the heavy to go BACK to flaylock status(currently certain high profile scouts)
2) I firmly believe that the number of militia and light weapon heavy users will drop especially since the heavy weapon fitting bonus is only for the sentinel and the lowered cpu pg will not allow both a proto light weapon and full proto modules. then again wait till the hotfix drops see where the first couple of weeks go.
1. There has never been a higher profile a scout than Bojo the Mighty. While I cannot speak for the great Bojo himself, I can attest to the judicious and enlightened nature of his uniquely vast wisdom. As such, I cannot imagine that Bojo wishes for craptastic Heavies. To which high profile scouts do you refer? 2. Agreed. I think the Charlie tweaks will be a good start toward bringing an end to FotM status of both my suit and yours. Bojo, gravion, h*ll even you have made posts after the charlie tweaks were announced and grav for a fact wants further nerfs....
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5564
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Posted - 2014.07.30 23:55:00 -
[76] - Quote
The sad thing is, Scouts vs Heavies is actually a balanced fight.
Scouts get the advantage (even with less HP,less DPS , etc..) on heavies due to speed and e-war (surprise attacks). Heavies have enough HP to survive some surprise attacks and counter accordingly with a weapon that does not misses and has a high DPS.
Balanced.
Med frames are the ones that can barely survive this fight.
Scouts are ok, Heavies are ok, Med frames are getting buffed.
Everything is good with the world.
Stop QQ ing please.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3428
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Posted - 2014.07.31 00:51:00 -
[77] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote: Bojo, gravion, h*ll even you have made posts after the charlie tweaks were announced and grav for a fact wants further nerfs....
Bojo is Bojo. He says wise things. He says silly things.
"Grav" (who we affectionately call Gav) is a youngish guy who holds the title of village idiot. On rare occasions, he comes up with a gem so we've come to adopt him despite his being a 1.8 Scout. We routinely brutalize and browbeat the poor kid, which comes as direct consequence of his routinely saying stupid sh!t. We too wish that Gav would say less stupid sh!t.
I am guilty of slinging mud in hopes of prodding Heavies. I'd like to see them step up and take the reigns of their FotM. Many have, but many more have adopted the tanker's "everything is fine" mantra.
We want the same thing, Heavies and Scouts. We want our suits to be spammed less often, and we want to restore our presently soiled reputations. This may come in Charlie thanks to Super Assaults. We'll likely hate each other alot less once we share a common (likely overpowered) adversary.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2014.07.31 01:01:00 -
[78] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote: Bojo, gravion, h*ll even you have made posts after the charlie tweaks were announced and grav for a fact wants further nerfs....
Bojo is Bojo. He says wise things. He says silly things. "Grav" (who we affectionately call Gav) is a youngish guy who holds the title of village idiot. On rare occasions, he comes up with a gem so we've come to adopt him despite his being a 1.8 Scout. We routinely brutalize and browbeat the poor kid, which comes as direct consequence of his routinely saying stupid sh!t. We too wish that Gav would say less stupid sh!t. I am guilty of slinging mud in hopes of prodding Heavies. I'd like to see them step up and take the reigns of their FotM. Many have, but many more have adopted the tanker's "everything is fine" mantra.
We want the same thing, Heavies and Scouts. We want our suits to be spammed less vigorously. This may come in Charlie thanks to Super Assaults. We'll likely hate each other alot less once we share a common, overpowered adversary. Seems like a good time to fade away for a while as I heard what I needed to hear. Just know that i am watching and should blind bigotry rear it's ugly head again *insert Schwarzenegger voice here* I'LL BE BACK
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1771
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Posted - 2014.07.31 03:17:00 -
[79] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote: Again, where the f*ck have scouts been complaining about heavies?
I post a weekly complaint about Heavies. Sometimes two. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Prior to Bravo, I did the same about Tanks. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Now before the fatties in the room rebut, I am very much aware that Scout suits are also spammed. A number of old-school Scouts (myself included) have made every effort to see this corrected. We neither pretend nor claim that "everything is fine" and we call out the FotM chasers who do. We have identified key problems specific to our frame and have proposed to the Devs various means by which to correct them. We do not want the crutch; we do not defend the crutch. Scouts want balance. Because balance is good for Dust.
In response to the OP, I would ask two questions: 1) If "everything is fine" then why are your suits so heavily spammed? 2) If Charlie doesn't fix your spam, what do you and your fellow fatties intend to do about it? I'm mildly glad you asked... 1) I never claimed everything was "fine" my bile and hatred are directed solely at those who want the heavy to go BACK to flaylock status(currently certain high profile scouts) 2) I firmly believe that the number of militia and light weapon heavy users will drop especially since the heavy weapon fitting bonus is only for the sentinel and the lowered cpu pg will not allow both a proto light weapon and full proto modules. then again wait till the hotfix drops see where the first couple of weeks go. When was the heavy flay lock status?
Ive seen every single latino corp using them ever since i started.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Give the Minja active dampening!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1772
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Posted - 2014.07.31 03:19:00 -
[80] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote: I'm mildly glad you asked...
1) I never claimed everything was "fine" my bile and hatred are directed solely at those who want the heavy to go BACK to flaylock status(currently certain high profile scouts)
2) I firmly believe that the number of militia and light weapon heavy users will drop especially since the heavy weapon fitting bonus is only for the sentinel and the lowered cpu pg will not allow both a proto light weapon and full proto modules. then again wait till the hotfix drops see where the first couple of weeks go.
1. There has never been a higher profile a scout than Bojo the Mighty. While I cannot speak for the great Bojo himself, I can attest to the judicious and enlightened nature of his uniquely vast wisdom. As such, I cannot imagine that Bojo wishes for craptastic Heavies. To which high profile scouts do you refer? 2. Agreed. I think the Charlie tweaks will be a good start toward bringing an end to FotM status of both my suit and yours. Bojo, gravion, h*ll even you have made posts after the charlie tweaks were announced and grav for a fact wants further nerfs.... Its Gav...Also, if you read what the nerfs are, you'd realize that they really are baby nerfs for a much larger problem.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1773
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Posted - 2014.07.31 03:21:00 -
[81] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote: Bojo, gravion, h*ll even you have made posts after the charlie tweaks were announced and grav for a fact wants further nerfs....
Bojo is Bojo. He says wise things. He says silly things. "Gravion" (who we affectionately call Gav) is a youngish guy who holds the title of village idiot. On rare occasions, he comes up with a gem so we've come to adopt him despite his being a 1.8 Scout. We routinely brutalize and browbeat the poor kid, which comes as direct consequence of his routinely saying stupid sh!t. We too wish that Gav would say less stupid sh!t. I am guilty of slinging mud in hopes of prodding Heavies. I'd like to see them step up and take the reigns of their FotM. Many have, but many more have adopted the tanker's "everything is fine" mantra.
We want the same thing, Heavies and Scouts. We want our suits to be spammed less often, and we want to restore our presently soiled reputations. This may come in Charlie thanks to Super Assaults. We'll likely hate each other alot less once we share a common (likely overpowered) adversary. Thanks for the support Adipem!
Also, I'm currently set on the minja active dampening, so you won't hear stupid stuff again until that passes
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1556
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Posted - 2014.07.31 08:19:00 -
[82] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:I have a better question: When are we going to stop letting pansies hide behind alts?
If you want to post something semi-inflamatory OP then you need to man (or woman?) up and post it with your main. Hiding behind your alt only makes your argument seem weaker since it reflects your in ability to own your words. You're just jelly because no one knows you with or without an alt.
Funny, but my likes seem to say otherwise, as does my long forum history.
On a related note how can I be "jelly?" I am neither made of fruit nor heated with gelatin and lots of sugar until I form a delicious and spreadable gel.
Fun > Realism
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
158
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Posted - 2014.07.31 09:26:00 -
[83] - Quote
JRleo jr wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhaxing invisibrue midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that op medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfz on them as well as the poor heaviez. These parasprites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this changeling invasion out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blur or reed, and harass the midget 'til he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... Fixed. mwahaha
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos
Best song evar.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
636
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:58:00 -
[84] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Patrick57 wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:How can you hate that which YOU created...? I am but nature's balance to YOUR incessant torrent of complaints about the poor heavies. And the best part is soon you will be adding assaults to your nerf hit list once you scouts realize that they are viable again. And I will be there howling with laughter saying I TOLD YOU SO... and that day will be a turning point when the non wallhackers say NO MORE and rise full of just indignation and overthrow the cloaked defilers of this sacred game and you scouts will know the feeling of being truly hunted for the first time. AND WE SHALL WIN!!! I think everyone's problem with you is that, instead of offering ideas to help balance and/or admitting that Heavies are OP/spammed, you insist on believeing that Heavies are being nerfed only due to Scouts QQing. Stop saying they have wallhacks and invisibility, and start offering some real feedback about Scouts/Heavies that makes your opinion worth a damn. I do not seek worth among my peers, as I am but a martyr destined to be used abused and then thrown away... My crusade is to get people to wake up and REALIZE that screaming for nerfs just because the meta shifts slightly out of your favor is WRONG. Alas though, I fear my job will never be done as scouts, even with the incoming CPU PG and HMG nerfs, still cry for MORE NERFS before even letting the current changes be felt. Thus I shall continue to remind them that they are not the only ones who can whine, moan and fling poo to get what they want. I am merely less subtle about it...
Dude you're not freaking Batman "The Dark Knight" alright....seriously
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that.
NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
1110
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Posted - 2014.07.31 15:00:00 -
[85] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Infine Sentinel wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... But... If all the scouts die, Who will kill the heavy's? Scouts lost that right when they decided to kill the heavy via nerfs rather then fighting honorably on the battle field...
So stand still, in a line, and fire away at each other.
Is that honorable combat?
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
1110
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Posted - 2014.07.31 15:00:00 -
[86] - Quote
Mobius Kaethis wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:I have a better question: When are we going to stop letting pansies hide behind alts?
If you want to post something semi-inflamatory OP then you need to man (or woman?) up and post it with your main. Hiding behind your alt only makes your argument seem weaker since it reflects your in ability to own your words. You're just jelly because no one knows you with or without an alt. Funny, but my likes seem to say otherwise, as does my long forum history. On a related note how can I be "jelly?" I am neither made of fruit nor heated with gelatin and lots of sugar until I form a delicious and spreadable gel.
Hmm, jelly.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
636
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Posted - 2014.07.31 15:07:00 -
[87] - Quote
ShamelessALT wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote: Again, where the f*ck have scouts been complaining about heavies?
I post a weekly complaint about Heavies. Sometimes two. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Prior to Bravo, I did the same about Tanks. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Now before the fatties in the room rebut, I am very much aware that Scout suits are also spammed. A number of old-school Scouts (myself included) have made every effort to see this corrected. We neither pretend nor claim that "everything is fine" and we call out the FotM chasers who do. We have identified key problems specific to our frame and have proposed to the Devs various means by which to correct them. We do not want the crutch; we do not defend the crutch. Scouts want balance. Because balance is good for Dust.
In response to the OP, I would ask two questions: 1) If "everything is fine" then why are your suits so heavily spammed? 2) If Charlie doesn't fix your spam, what do you and your fellow fatties intend to do about it? I'm mildly glad you asked... 1) I never claimed everything was "fine" my bile and hatred are directed solely at those who want the heavy to go BACK to flaylock status(currently certain high profile scouts) 2) I firmly believe that the number of militia and light weapon heavy users will drop especially since the heavy weapon fitting bonus is only for the sentinel and the lowered cpu pg will not allow both a proto light weapon and full proto modules. then again wait till the hotfix drops see where the first couple of weeks go.
1. When did we ever say we wanted heavies to go back to "flaylock status?"
2. Actually you are claiming everything is fine for the heavies, and you want the "wallhacking" scouts to be nerfed and stfu about QQ. Essentially you're advocating for the reverse of what the community wants in order to further advance your position/gameplay in Dust leaving it even more unbalanced than it is.
3. Well it's pretty obvious why HMG users will grow, because it's the most powerful weapon in the game. The RoF and DPS outrank every other weapon, and it's essentially like a mega CR or SMG. Of course there are some drawbacks to using the weapon, but they certainly don't outweigh the advantages or else why would so many people spam the **** out of this weapon?
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that.
NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
636
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Posted - 2014.07.31 15:11:00 -
[88] - Quote
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote: Bojo, gravion, h*ll even you have made posts after the charlie tweaks were announced and grav for a fact wants further nerfs....
Bojo is Bojo. He says wise things. He says silly things. "Gravion" (who we affectionately call Gav) is a youngish guy who holds the title of village idiot. On rare occasions, he comes up with a gem so we've come to adopt him despite his being a 1.8 Scout. We routinely brutalize and browbeat the poor kid, which comes as direct consequence of his routinely saying stupid sh!t. We too wish that Gav would say less stupid sh!t. I am guilty of slinging mud in hopes of prodding Heavies. I'd like to see them step up and take the reigns of their FotM. Many have, but many more have adopted the tanker's "everything is fine" mantra.
We want the same thing, Heavies and Scouts. We want our suits to be spammed less often, and we want to restore our presently soiled reputations. This may come in Charlie thanks to Super Assaults. We'll likely hate each other alot less once we share a common (likely overpowered) adversary. Thanks for the support Adipem! Also, I'm currently set on the minja active dampening, so you won't hear stupid stuff again until that passes
Wait...I advocated for Minja Active Dampening first....don't plagiarize Gav! lol...jk..................................................................................................................but still...............................................................................................................give me some credit. =P
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that.
NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1775
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Posted - 2014.07.31 16:15:00 -
[89] - Quote
Bormir1r wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote: Bojo, gravion, h*ll even you have made posts after the charlie tweaks were announced and grav for a fact wants further nerfs....
Bojo is Bojo. He says wise things. He says silly things. "Gravion" (who we affectionately call Gav) is a youngish guy who holds the title of village idiot. On rare occasions, he comes up with a gem so we've come to adopt him despite his being a 1.8 Scout. We routinely brutalize and browbeat the poor kid, which comes as direct consequence of his routinely saying stupid sh!t. We too wish that Gav would say less stupid sh!t. I am guilty of slinging mud in hopes of prodding Heavies. I'd like to see them step up and take the reigns of their FotM. Many have, but many more have adopted the tanker's "everything is fine" mantra.
We want the same thing, Heavies and Scouts. We want our suits to be spammed less often, and we want to restore our presently soiled reputations. This may come in Charlie thanks to Super Assaults. We'll likely hate each other alot less once we share a common (likely overpowered) adversary. Thanks for the support Adipem! Also, I'm currently set on the minja active dampening, so you won't hear stupid stuff again until that passes Wait...I advocated for Minja Active Dampening first....don't plagiarize Gav! lol...jk..................................................................................................................but still...............................................................................................................give me some credit. =P I do give you credit!!
Ill add your name to my sig, if i have the space
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
141
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Posted - 2014.07.31 19:13:00 -
[90] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote: Again, where the f*ck have scouts been complaining about heavies?
I post a weekly complaint about Heavies. Sometimes two. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Prior to Bravo, I did the same about Tanks. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Now before the fatties in the room rebut, I am very much aware that Scout suits are also spammed. A number of old-school Scouts (myself included) have made every effort to see this corrected. We neither pretend nor claim that "everything is fine" and we call out the FotM chasers who do. We have identified key problems specific to our frame and have proposed to the Devs various means by which to correct them. We do not want the crutch; we do not defend the crutch. Scouts want balance. Because balance is good for Dust.
In response to the OP, I would ask two questions: 1) If "everything is fine" then why are your suits so heavily spammed? 2) If Charlie doesn't fix your spam, what do you and your fellow fatties intend to do about it?
How is either suit being spammed is my question. Is spam considered someones role in the battlefield? I never see teams of 16v16 in heavy suits, or scout suits. Tanks spam was an issue, but I don't see this 'spam' of infantry suits being true or valid. Frankly, if you're having that much trouble with heavies, you're just not that good at this game. Sorry, but the only thing I see is a whiner who wants to falsify and stretch their words to support their argument.
All I see in this game now is a major diversity of play styles. At no point for the past few months have I seen an extreme of spamming, unless it was Latino Killers on the enemy team, but they've always been that way.
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.07.31 20:35:00 -
[91] - Quote
Bormir1r wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote: Again, where the f*ck have scouts been complaining about heavies?
I post a weekly complaint about Heavies. Sometimes two. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Prior to Bravo, I did the same about Tanks. Because Spam and the common claim that "everything is fine". Now before the fatties in the room rebut, I am very much aware that Scout suits are also spammed. A number of old-school Scouts (myself included) have made every effort to see this corrected. We neither pretend nor claim that "everything is fine" and we call out the FotM chasers who do. We have identified key problems specific to our frame and have proposed to the Devs various means by which to correct them. We do not want the crutch; we do not defend the crutch. Scouts want balance. Because balance is good for Dust.
In response to the OP, I would ask two questions: 1) If "everything is fine" then why are your suits so heavily spammed? 2) If Charlie doesn't fix your spam, what do you and your fellow fatties intend to do about it? I'm mildly glad you asked... 1) I never claimed everything was "fine" my bile and hatred are directed solely at those who want the heavy to go BACK to flaylock status(currently certain high profile scouts) 2) I firmly believe that the number of militia and light weapon heavy users will drop especially since the heavy weapon fitting bonus is only for the sentinel and the lowered cpu pg will not allow both a proto light weapon and full proto modules. then again wait till the hotfix drops see where the first couple of weeks go. 1. When did we ever say we wanted heavies to go back to "flaylock status?" 2. Actually you are claiming everything is fine for the heavies, and you want the "wallhacking" scouts to be nerfed and stfu about QQ. Essentially you're advocating for the reverse of what the community wants in order to further advance your position/gameplay in Dust leaving it even more unbalanced than it is. 3. Well it's pretty obvious why HMG users will grow, because it's the most powerful weapon in the game. The RoF and DPS outrank every other weapon, and it's essentially like a mega CR or SMG. Of course there are some drawbacks to using the weapon, but they certainly don't outweigh the advantages or else why would so many people spam the **** out of this weapon? I had intended to keep quiet for a while but pups can't seem to keep their yapping mouths shut...
1. The fact that certain scouts keep yammering for nerfs beyond what stated in the HF charlie tells me exactly where their intentions lie if you need further explanation, and judging from your displayed intellect you do, google context clues or reading between the lines.
2. when have I said "everything is fine" feel free to search my posts... don't worry I'll wait. Those scout "nerfs" you speak of are merely applying the same train of thought to scouts that was applied to heavies if you arent a brick tanking FOTM scout they would have no effect on you. then again that fact that you say I'm calling for nerfs speaks volumes(google the topics i asked you to in point 1 if you don't understand that last sentence) As for the QQ I was, am, and will continue to mirror the scout QQ nothing more nothing less....
3. Why would the HMG users grow? The rise of the heavy suits was due to the Assault's rather sickly state and the need to fight against brick tanked FOTM scouts. With the loss of cpu pg, HMG heat increase, and only sentinels getting the heavy weapon fitting bonus, heavy users will drop and the use of Assaults will skyrocket. As for the claim that the HMG is OP... Do you complain when a LR cuts you down from 98m away? Do you complain when you get pinned down by a MD? Do you complain when successfully flanked by a SG? Odds are you don't. Then again, judging from your attitude... My point is merely this the HMG is a niche weapon and if it doesn't perform in it's niche what good is it?
P.S. This may not be the response you need, but it IS the response you deserve...
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2014.07.31 22:00:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote: I had intended to keep quiet for a while but pups can't seem to keep their yapping mouths shut...
:: Heavy Sigh ::
Enough pups! Ample poop has been slung for now :-) Let's see how Charlie pans out before slinging more.
Temias Mercurial wrote: 1. How is either suit being spammed is my question. 2. Sorry, but the only thing I see is a whiner ...
1. If every other merc you see is running the same type of suit, there's likely a problem with that suit. 2. You could be right; I might be a bad player. But how does that affect your position? And ... if I'm not?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.31 22:24:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote: the HMG is a niche weapon
LOL
At least you have some sense of humor
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2014.07.31 22:34:00 -
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Just become a fotm player. They don't care what goes on because they'll always have the latest hot-ness lol! Scout today, heavy next patch. Sniper yesterday, assault after hotfix.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:ShamelessALT wrote: the HMG is a niche weapon LOL At least you have some sense of humor LOL ikr? just today i was sniping with my HMG, takng red berries out instantly, then proceeded to kill a tank... Then with my OP HMG i took out RRs users at 80m...
Is this really how people think they work?
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Posted - 2014.08.01 00:30:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote: "Gravion" (who we affectionately call Gav) is a youngish guy who holds the title of village idiot. On rare occasions, he comes up with a gem so we've come to adopt him despite his being a 1.8 Scout. We routinely brutalize and browbeat the poor kid, which comes as direct consequence of his routinely saying stupid sh!t. We too wish that Gav would say less stupid sh!t.
I am guilty of slinging mud in hopes of prodding Heavies. I'd like to see them step up and take the reigns of their FotM. Many have, but many more have adopted the tanker's "everything is fine" mantra.
Thank god someone clued me in to who the hell gravion was.... couldn't figure that one out yesterday.
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Temias Mercurial
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Posted - 2014.08.01 02:06:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote: I had intended to keep quiet for a while but pups can't seem to keep their yapping mouths shut...
:: Heavy Sigh :: Enough pups! Ample poop has been slung for now :-) Let's see how Charlie pans out before slinging more. Temias Mercurial wrote: 1. How is either suit being spammed is my question. 2. Sorry, but the only thing I see is a whiner ...
1. If every other merc you see is running the same type of suit, there's likely a problem with that suit. 2. You could be right; I might be a bad player. But how does that affect your position? And ... if I'm not?
Answer to #1: I'm seeing a diversity of suits. I have not seen games of even half the enemy team being heavies as of recent. Answer to #2: How would it effect my position if it were true? As someone who has an average of 15 kills a game and 1500+ warpoints with whichever 1of the 30 fittings I'm using, I'd say I'm not your average blueberry. I play everything from tanks and dropships to scouts, heavies, assaults, and logis. Far better than average, but certainly not the best of the best. If you were not a very bad player, you might be an average player. Not trying to be rude or mean, but I know of too many people who spout nonsense and stretch the truth to it's boundaries. You and I may just have two entirely different experiences of the current state of Dust, but I play enough matches a day, and never see what your trying to say is true.
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
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Dauth Jenkins
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:39:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW...
Pull out a mass driver, and kill them all. They can't outrun 8 meters of splash damage
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JRleo jr
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:42:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Scouts continue to blight these sacred forums with their presence... My only question is why? Why do we let these wallhacking invisible midgets continue to live... Trust me when HF Charlie hits and they realize that medium suits are viable again they will be screaming for nerfs on them as well as the poor heavies. These parasites on this game will not stop until they can kill any other suit. Join me in stomping this infestation out if you see a scout in FW kill it regardless of blue or red and harass the midget till he biomasses. END THEIR REIGN OF TERROR AND B*TCHING NOW... Pull out a mass driver, and kill them all. They can't outrun 6 meters of splash damage Yes they can.
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