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Patrick57 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7844	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:03:00 - [61] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: shall I pull up the MULTITUDE of threads started by SCOUTS (no one else just scouts) complaining about the one suit that takes more then one SG blast to kill...(I'd rather not but if you insist I will do it....) They aren't complaining simply because they're scouts, but because the Heavy spam is ridiculous. I bet you never thought of that. King Thunderbolt is my number one fan. Cross Atu for CPM1 /o/
ShamelessALT Ametat Security Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:05:00 - [62] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: shall I pull up the MULTITUDE of threads started by SCOUTS (no one else just scouts) complaining about the one suit that takes more then one SG blast to kill...(I'd rather not but if you insist I will do it....) They aren't complaining simply because they're scouts, but because the Heavy spam is ridiculous. I bet you never thought of that. Yet those threads are started ONLY by scouts... Smells like anusache to me If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine... Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 625	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:13:00 - [63] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Reign Omega wrote: So 100 CPU, and 30 PG give or take? Seems like a lot tbh, but I won't know for sure for 2 weeks It's back to the normal old levels, maybe a smidge higher. With maxed core we're talking about 69 PG, and if you're a relic with some points in HMG Optz then you'll likely only have to downgrade your sidearm and nades which are pretty minor, all things considered. Yeah I just realized I could protofit.com just to see the difference, My brain is a little slow on wake up lol. As of right now I have to drop down to ADV smg and nades to fit. Thats not UNreasonable those things are just icing on the cake anyhow. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4492	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:21:00 - [64] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Here's a thread of heavy tears: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168709 Now bring to the table a thread of scout tears about charlie. I know they're out there I have faith in you... WHAT SANE SCOUT WOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT CHARLIE??! after all their biggest threat is getting castrated PS maybe cal scouts whining about not having the highest precision AND range on their wall hacks Yeah but everyone hates caldari scouts Even scouts Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4492	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:22:00 - [65] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: Patrick57 wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: shall I pull up the MULTITUDE of threads started by SCOUTS (no one else just scouts) complaining about the one suit that takes more then one SG blast to kill...(I'd rather not but if you insist I will do it....) They aren't complaining simply because they're scouts, but because the Heavy spam is ridiculous. I bet you never thought of that. Yet those threads are started ONLY by scouts... Smells like anusache to me Medium frames are so UP that if they started a thread about how hard it was to kill heavies people would say "Your suit is underpowered" Thus medium frames posing as scouts must bring up the issue Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 5155	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:27:00 - [66] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Theres no real issue with the suits. You still can fit heavys properly like these: Charlie Ak.0 sentinel charlie Mk.0 sentinel Chralie Ck.0 sentinel Charlie GK.0 sentinel So wheres the issue? Wow? I did not know they were taking away the highslot on amarr and moving it to a low , anyone know why they are doing this?
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 216	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:28:00 - [67] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Here's a thread of heavy tears: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168709 Now bring to the table a thread of scout tears about charlie. I know they're out there I have faith in you... WHAT SANE SCOUT WOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT CHARLIE??! after all their biggest threat is getting castrated PS maybe cal scouts whining about not having the highest precision AND range on their wall hacks Yeah but everyone hates caldari scouts Even scouts Scanning is ****. Just like that. Im cal scout and im happy that i will get damp bonus. Hey moron (this that talk about wallhack). Thats not pc game. And if you think that radar is wallhack, then you also have it as every suit. Scouts arent butthurt. People want constant nerf to us (mostly to cal) cus they dont try to fight them. Have they ever eqiuped ScR? I dont think so. So dont start this and let CCP work on this game (with CPM and vets who know how things are going) -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 625	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:30:00 - [68] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Theres no real issue with the suits. You still can fit heavys properly like these: Charlie Ak.0 sentinel charlie Mk.0 sentinel Chralie Ck.0 sentinel Charlie GK.0 sentinel So wheres the issue? Wow? I did not know they were taking away the highslot on amarr and moving it to a low , anyone know why they are doing this? Theyre switching the slot layout between G and A sentinels. Not sure why Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
ShamelessALT Ametat Security Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:33:00 - [69] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: Patrick57 wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: shall I pull up the MULTITUDE of threads started by SCOUTS (no one else just scouts) complaining about the one suit that takes more then one SG blast to kill...(I'd rather not but if you insist I will do it....) They aren't complaining simply because they're scouts, but because the Heavy spam is ridiculous. I bet you never thought of that. Yet those threads are started ONLY by scouts... Smells like anusache to me Medium frames are so UP that if they started a thread about how hard it was to kill heavies people would say "Your suit is underpowered" Thus medium frames posing as scouts must bring up the issue Tsk Tsk deflection does not win debates... If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine... Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 5155	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:34:00 - [70] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Theres no real issue with the suits. You still can fit heavys properly like these: Charlie Ak.0 sentinel charlie Mk.0 sentinel Chralie Ck.0 sentinel Charlie GK.0 sentinel So wheres the issue? Wow? I did not know they were taking away the highslot on amarr and moving it to a low , anyone know why they are doing this? Theyre switching the slot layout between G and A sentinels. Not sure why That's a big change just to arbitrarely throw into the mix the Amarr is the heavy vs heavy king because of the damage mod not because of tanking

Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:36:00 - [71] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: A gallente heavy has 2 less slots than a gallente scout yet more PG How is that not messed? It's a wannabe scout obviously; it wants to be as fast as the gal scout so it puts more kin cast. Duh! =P "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that. NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:36:00 - [72] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Oh, so you can't fit all Proto everything, GET OVER IT. ^This "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that. NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 216	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:37:00 - [73] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Theres no real issue with the suits. You still can fit heavys properly like these: Charlie Ak.0 sentinel charlie Mk.0 sentinel Chralie Ck.0 sentinel Charlie GK.0 sentinel So wheres the issue? Wow? I did not know they were taking away the highslot on amarr and moving it to a low , anyone know why they are doing this? Theyre switching the slot layout between G and A sentinels. Not sure why Werent amars armor tankers? Cus that make sense as they have 600base armor. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:38:00 - [74] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Oh, so you can't fit all Proto everything, GET OVER IT. was it really that hard to kill a heavy, wallhacker When there's six of them, yeah, it is. Calling me a wallhacker? Lame excuse for being bad. Sure, Scouts have problems, but to sit here and act like nothing is wrong with Heavies at all? Lol Pat I'm pretty sure we don't even have to say anything; this guy wants to make a fool of himself. "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that. NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
ShamelessALT Ametat Security Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:39:00 - [75] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Here's a thread of heavy tears: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168709 Now bring to the table a thread of scout tears about charlie. I know they're out there I have faith in you... WHAT SANE SCOUT WOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT CHARLIE??! after all their biggest threat is getting castrated PS maybe cal scouts whining about not having the highest precision AND range on their wall hacks Yeah but everyone hates caldari scouts Even scouts Scanning is **. Just like that. Im cal scout and im happy that i will get damp bonus. Blueberry (this that talk about wallhack). Thats not pc game. And if you think that radar is wallhack, then you also have it as every suit. Really??? so a med suit can scan 50m+ away? thought not... Scouts arent butthurt. People want constant nerf to us (mostly to cal) cus they dont try to fight them. Have they ever equipped(fixed your spelling error) ScR? I dont think so. Really because ironically enough I DO use a ScR and it gets me a SG to the face...** So dont start this and let CCP work on this game (with CPM and vets who know how things are going) I didn't start this scouts did... but rest assured I will do my damnedest to finish it... If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine... Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:40:00 - [76] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: used kin kats all the time pre 1.8 on my heavy not worth it anymore since the speed nerf tho By wallhack I mean this Oh Wall hacking! I thought you meant like all those times heavies can put their HMG through walls and kill you. Oh so since when did scouts make walls transparent? Lol yea; isn't it the exact opposite; So many times I've found that i'm taking damage even though I'm already in cover... "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that. NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
ShamelessALT Ametat Security Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:44:00 - [77] - Quote Bormir1r wrote: Patrick57 wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Oh, so you can't fit all Proto everything, GET OVER IT. was it really that hard to kill a heavy, wallhacker When there's six of them, yeah, it is. Calling me a wallhacker? Lame excuse for being bad. Sure, Scouts have problems, but to sit here and act like nothing is wrong with Heavies at all? Lol Pat I'm pretty sure we don't even have to say anything; this guy wants to make a fool of himself. Fool? is it foolish to be annoyed that a group(scouts) is conspiring to drag heavies back to the 1.0-1.6 age because its too much work to GASP think of ways to take out a heavy.... Guess I'm a fool then... If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine... Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 216	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:50:00 - [78] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: Bormir1r wrote: Patrick57 wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Oh, so you can't fit all Proto everything, GET OVER IT. was it really that hard to kill a heavy, wallhacker When there's six of them, yeah, it is. Calling me a wallhacker? Lame excuse for being bad. Sure, Scouts have problems, but to sit here and act like nothing is wrong with Heavies at all? Lol Pat I'm pretty sure we don't even have to say anything; this guy wants to make a fool of himself. Fool? is it foolish to be annoyed that a group(scouts) is conspiring to drag heavies back to the 1.0-1.6 age because its too much work to GASP think of ways to take out a heavy.... Guess I'm a fool then... Community wanted this. As scouts get nerfed so stop being a poor baby : ,,you no longer will fit everything proto on your heavy, wah!" -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Arcturis Vanguard Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 206	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:53:00 - [79] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: Reign Omega wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Theres no real issue with the suits. You still can fit heavys properly like these: Charlie Ak.0 sentinel charlie Mk.0 sentinel Chralie Ck.0 sentinel Charlie GK.0 sentinel So wheres the issue? Wow? I did not know they were taking away the highslot on amarr and moving it to a low , anyone know why they are doing this? Theyre switching the slot layout between G and A sentinels. Not sure why That's a big change just to arbitrarely throw into the mix the Amarr is the heavy vs heavy king because of the damage mod not because of tanking If you going into the idea discussion thread and read the sticky about slot layouts, it was either rattatai or logibro that stated that. the want to follow the eve lore with module slots. All amarr will have the most low slots. Caldari will have the most highs. Gallente are equal favoring lows. Minmatar equal but favoring highs. Though I'm not sure why the caldari and minmatar have same slot layouts. Which really throws me for a loop with the amarr sent. I skilled into it because of bonus to projectiles and the high slot content for AV when needed. I hated the 1 high 4 low back when the amarr was the only sentinel so I went basic proto for slot layout. Now I'm forced being forced into the slot layout that I hate... __________________ Now on topic. The fitting space for sentinels is ridiculously awesome. All proto with any combination and room to spare was amazing. Obviously it was far to generous but I still don't understand why any proto suit can't put on all proto modules, besides for the apparent OP between tiers. I'm happy that there is a reduction to fitting space for heavies as I'm tired of seeing proto weapons and modules on militia suits. Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
ShamelessALT Ametat Security Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:54:00 - [80] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Community wanted this. As scouts get nerfed so stop being a poor baby : ,,you no longer will fit everything proto on your heavy, wah!" It's funny because I only see "famous" 133T scouts complaining and NOONE ELSE If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine... Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.

Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 216	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:01:00 - [81] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Community wanted this. As scouts get nerfed so stop being a poor baby : ,,you no longer will fit everything proto on your heavy, wah!" It's funny because I only see "famous" 133T scouts complaining and NOONE ELSE 133T , what? Noones complaining. I can see people can get mad but havent seen scouts qqing. But i can see multiple threads vs scouts. Thats make me fell bad. On the other side, nerfing is bad. Cus you know, theres always Assault,Logi,other Scouts to use (skill points magick) -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1656	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:03:00 - [82] - Quote Well lets see-2 less EQ slot, 1 less module slot, cloak takes up more cpu/pg than any other thing in the game, even with max scout skill Done whining yet scrub heavy? "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
ShamelessALT Ametat Security Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:05:00 - [83] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Community wanted this. As scouts get nerfed so stop being a poor baby : ,,you no longer will fit everything proto on your heavy, wah!" It's funny because I only see "famous" 133T scouts complaining and NOONE ELSE 133T , what? Noones complaining. I can see people can get mad but havent seen scouts qqing. But i can see multiple threads vs scouts. Thats make me fell bad. On the other side, nerfing is bad. Cus you know, theres always Assault,Logi,other Scouts to use (skill points magick) SP is not the issue. The issue is that scouts got the HMG and the heavy nerfed because they are too stupid to learn to not rush the heavy from the front... If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine... Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1656	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:05:00 - [84] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: A gallente heavy has 2 less slots than a gallente scout yet more PG How is that not messed? Plates and reps cost a lot of pg but dont worry in hotfix charlie sentinel will have over 20pg less then the wallhacker suit Plates and reps...SMH, try kin cats and code breakers "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 216	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:05:00 - [85] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Well lets see-1 less EQ slot, 1 less module slot, cloak takes up more cpu/pg than any other thing in the game, even with max scout skill Done whining yet scrub heavy? 2 less eq :) -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1656	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:06:00 - [86] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: Mejt0 wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Community wanted this. As scouts get nerfed so stop being a poor baby : ,,you no longer will fit everything proto on your heavy, wah!" It's funny because I only see "famous" 133T scouts complaining and NOONE ELSE 133T , what? Noones complaining. I can see people can get mad but havent seen scouts qqing. But i can see multiple threads vs scouts. Thats make me fell bad. On the other side, nerfing is bad. Cus you know, theres always Assault,Logi,other Scouts to use (skill points magick) SP is not the issue. The issue is that scouts got the HMG and the heavy nerfed because they are too stupid to learn to not rush the heavy from the front... Its getting nerfed because more than 8 people on each team is using an HMG heavy. Numbers don't lie. Also, I'm fairly certain that assaults complain more than heavies, because scouts at least have some counters, like more speed to run away if the heavy has poor aim. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
ShamelessALT Ametat Security Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:06:00 - [87] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Well lets see-1 less EQ slot, 1 less module slot, cloak takes up more cpu/pg than any other thing in the game, even with max scout skill Done whining yet scrub heavy? Ill stop when you scouts stop.... If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine... Scouts, do me a favor and biomass.
S-PANZA Expert Intervention Caldari State 6	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:07:00 - [88] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Reign Omega wrote: So 100 CPU, and 30 PG give or take? Seems like a lot tbh, but I won't know for sure for 2 weeks It's back to the normal old levels, maybe a smidge higher. With maxed core we're talking about 69 PG, and if you're a relic with some points in HMG Optz then you'll likely only have to downgrade your sidearm and nades which are pretty minor, all things considered. If youre not a relic, heavy weapon opt . is a x6 skill which means 1,865,520 SP for lvl 5 in exchange for ~4 PG that only a single weapon benefits not the suit . Quite a steep SP sink for a single weapon.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1656	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:07:00 - [89] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Well lets see-1 less EQ slot, 1 less module slot, cloak takes up more cpu/pg than any other thing in the game, even with max scout skill Done whining yet scrub heavy? 2 less eq :) Typo lol oopsies TY for the catch "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 217	Posted - 2014.07.24 20:12:00 - [90] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: SP is not the issue. The issue is that scouts got the HMG and the heavy nerfed because they are too stupid to learn to not rush the heavy from the front... By sp i mean people have scouts,heavies,logis, assault at adv/proto lvl and they ( i aslo) dont have to be mad. Good scout dont have problems with heavys if they do it right. And i never saw anyone who would complain about that. Show me one if im wrong. And again HMG got buffed when every rifle got nerfed. Again now they get all same range (buff), while heat build up inceasce by 2 does nothing (as now to oveheat you need to shoot like 300+ rounds). -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.



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