Moody, you sure a 4 precision enhanced cal scout can't see you while cloaked?

Thx, will have to play around. I'll tell you this for sure, I've never seen anyone outside a Gal Scout get under that suit's scans, but I only run it occasionally.

Yup. I pull out my 4 precision fit every now and again. You're instadead to everything but it's not like your job in that suit is to do killing. Not many people like to put their KD aside for the good of the team.

take a look at this table leadfoot https://13919baa44a2003fcdf76e6cfb80cd72b63f4884.googledrive.com/host/0B_YSJ6FRJlihQjFXdzdNYU5MQWM/alpha.html

To all the people saying run counter fits ad use precision enhancers, moody is using three proto profile damps and a proto cloak. He is unscannable with that fit. However, I don't think there was anything wrong about his playstyle. The majority of his nova knife kills were people hacking and people not checking their six. His fit is slow, has low health, and is terrible in 1v1s. The only problem I see is that it is too easy to just stand still in the open and wait for people to turn around.

Are you sure? I believe the only unscannable suit in the game is a cloaked 4 profile dampened Gal Scout and everything else is caught with 3 precision enhanced Cal Scout.

I can be scanned the second I step out of my cloak. Also I don't care if I've been killed by you which has happened. That doesn't bother me and I'm not at all bothered to admit it. Who the hell cares? I don't have such a strong ego that I deny getting killed.

There is no fit that can pick up a cloaked gal scout with 1 profile dampener. I tested it with a friend in FW. The moment he cloaked, I could no longer pick him up with 4 precision enhancers on my cal proto suit!

Wow that math is bad.

27 dB Max Skilled GalScout
20 dB Max Skilled GalScout + Cmp Profile Dampener
18 dB Max Skilled GalScout + Cmp Profile Dampener + Proto Cloak (on)

^ Anything that scans at or below 18 dB will pick this guy up.

Pro Tip: Lots of things can scan at or below 18 dB.

this would be much simpler if ccp would show scan profile and precision on the fitting screen

Cloak is not fine, its just ridiculous and ignorant to say something like that, the first nerf to the Cloak was a step in the right direction, but what would completely balance it is to force the player to manually deactivate the cloak before switching weapons, then all will be well in 'Competitive' land.

Until then the Cloak is not fine. Everything else about it is fine, the visibility (Honestly, there were moments in this video where I face desked at the stupidity of some of ERA's 'A-Team' players, even when standing still a Cloak is easy enough to spot for an experienced player, and even then, you get a red crosshair when you move over one)

Wow that math is bad.

27 dB - Max Skilled GalScout
20 dB - Max Skilled GalScout + Cmp Profile Dampener
18 dB - Max Skilled GalScout + Cmp Profile Dampener + Proto Cloak (on)

^ There is no magic here; anything that scans at or below 18 dB will pick this guy up.

Pro Tip: Lots of things can scan at or below 18 dB.

I don't care what your math says lol. I tested it in the field myself and it doesn't pick it up!!

Demzor ran min scouts and told me I couldn't pick him up if he had damps. I called him a liar cause the math said I could. So, I got a gal scout with max everything and we went into FW and I could not pick him up with 4 precision enhancers on my maxed cal scout. And all he had was one dampener and a cloak. Once he cloaked, he would not be picked up.

This was before they changed the profile sig of the cloak, however. But I doubt much changed..especially since I was using, and I repeat, 4 precison enhancers.

Your findings are outdated.

Cloaks' active dampening bonus was nerfed in Alpha from 25% to a maximum of 10%.
Your max-skill CalScout needs only two cPEs to pick up the GalScout in your scenario.

Huge respect for Demzor, btw. He's one of the best; same goes for Assert Dominance.

How about some cloak fixes?

I bet they could implement some sort of "shimmer" when the cloaked person moves, then they wouldn't be so invisible.

AND

They could make your recticle turn red when it passes over that spot that is more blurry than the rest of the screen.

I bet that would help.

*end sarcasm*

How about some cloak fixes?

I bet they could implement some sort of "shimmer" when the cloaked person moves, then they wouldn't be so invisible.

AND

They could make your recticle turn red when it passes over that spot that is more blurry than the rest of the screen.

I bet that would help.

*end sarcasm*

I've also got a fantastic idea.

How about you go **** yourself you sarcastic **** and hop along back to your little circle jerk thread in the Locker Room.

No sarcasm, really. Shoo. Go away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfW4XBP7A7c

Now, OH played a good game but I'm curious to know if this is what CCP envisioned? Is it ok that players are invisible longer than they are visible and in a competitive match? Only popping out just to OHK you?

If this isn't evidence that the cloak needs to have the same cooldown mechanic as every other module (with a cooldown) in the game, then there is nothing else you can do.

This isn't a dig at the player that's abusing the mechanic either.....this is a dig at cloaking in dust and how crazy it is.

Yes this is exactly why this game is a joke to me. Cloaked scouts ruined it for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfW4XBP7A7c

Now, OH played a good game but I'm curious to know if this is what CCP envisioned? Is it ok that players are invisible longer than they are visible and in a competitive match? Only popping out just to OHK you?

If this isn't evidence that the cloak needs to have the same cooldown mechanic as every other module (with a cooldown) in the game, then there is nothing else you can do.

This isn't a dig at the player that's abusing the mechanic either.....this is a dig at cloaking in dust and how crazy it is.