Easy fix: Run precision enhancers.

I give OH credit because they were scout addicts before it was FOTM and they stuck around. End of credit being given.

Thanks fiddle, I appreciate it :)

I'm a ****** bootleg scout though, not even gonna lie. MnM are the true scouts (Moody, Nega, Musturd)

But dubbs, I see what you're saying but maybe you forgot how much PC lags, everything is just so much more sluggish in PC than pubs for some reason I cannot fathom it might just be a graphical issue I'm not really sure, cloaks are honestly not so much of a problem, it really isn't hard to notice if you're vigilant and Hakyou is right, precision fit hunter scouts truly solves the problem IMO

Cyrius Li Moody best Min scout in the game besides Mr Mustard

ERA blind......

Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm an assassin, doing what an assassin does best.

QQ Min scouts. QQ knives. QQ the fact that they could have countered me if they put on the right fit or actually kept their eyes open. Oh wait every Cal scout is a slayer scout that doesn't run precision. QQ my 400 hp and terrible regen. QQ me having to use 4 slots and an adv main weapon so I can hide from idiots.

Hilarious thread considering how many gal shotgunners exist with double my eHP.

"abuse" hahahahahahahahhahaa

ps- Have a like. +1

you have to put one full ewar caldari scan scout in your squad so the rest of your squad can see them on the radar

Moody's running around a quarter of your nearest Heavy's HP and has a lifespan less than a half second when spotted. Being tough to see is the point; you can't possibly expect him to fight toe-to-toe.

Plus you're totally wrong ...
RND could've shut him down with a single GalLogi or CalScout.

Cloak is fine. These tears are the joke.

No, it was a dig at me for playing me role as well.

I have been a scout for over a year. I've knifed you plenty of times before cloaks existed. I've known how to survive on the battlefield before the stupid mechanic existed. There are many many places I can go that people probably have no idea that you can go. We used to have to be invisible without the cloak. Trust me if this stupid cloak never existed I'd be pretty happy because I'd have less pathetic excuse for scouts in my role.

And you're right, I had no intention of getting in 1v1 gunfights because I don't need to. Being a scout isn't about announcing your presence and honor 1v1ing. It's about cunning, positioning, movement, and most importantly ASSASSINATION. You see me when I want you to see me.

What you see is a Min scout playing the role as intended. I really want to say quit crying and run the proper fit but people won't. They'll cry instead of running counters because they want to be slayers instead of scouts.

Oh I am taking it personally. You don't direct link my content and complain about my playstyle without me taking it personally.

I've knifed you plenty of times. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. You used to run around in your cute little proto Min Logi in pubs quite often.

Run fits to counter fits. Stop complaining.

Whatever keeps your ego intact.

To all the people saying run counter fits ad use precision enhancers, moody is using three proto profile damps and a proto cloak. He is unscannable with that fit. However, I don't think there was anything wrong about his playstyle. The majority of his nova knife kills were people hacking and people not checking their six. His fit is slow, has low health, and is terrible in 1v1s. The only problem I see is that it is too easy to just stand still in the open and wait for people to turn around.

Are you sure? I believe the only unscannable suit in the game is a cloaked 4 profile dampened Gal Scout and everything else is caught with 3 precision enhanced Cal Scout.

I can be scanned the second I step out of my cloak. Also I don't care if I've been killed by you which has happened. That doesn't bother me and I'm not at all bothered to admit it. Who the hell cares? I don't have such a strong ego that I deny getting killed.

Cloak is not fine, its just ridiculous and ignorant to say something like that, the first nerf to the Cloak was a step in the right direction, but what would completely balance it is to force the player to manually deactivate the cloak before switching weapons, then all will be well in 'Competitive' land.

Until then the Cloak is not fine. Everything else about it is fine, the visibility (Honestly, there were moments in this video where I face desked at the stupidity of some of ERA's 'A-Team' players, even when standing still a Cloak is easy enough to spot for an experienced player, and even then, you get a red crosshair when you move over one)

Wow that math is bad.

27 dB - Max Skilled GalScout
20 dB - Max Skilled GalScout + Cmp Profile Dampener
18 dB - Max Skilled GalScout + Cmp Profile Dampener + Proto Cloak (on)

^ There is no magic here; anything that scans at or below 18 dB will pick this guy up.

Pro Tip: Lots of things can scan at or below 18 dB.

Your findings are outdated.

Cloaks' active dampening bonus was nerfed in Alpha from 25% to a maximum of 10%.
Your max-skill CalScout needs only two cPEs to pick up the GalScout in your scenario.

Huge respect for Demzor, btw. He's one of the best; same goes for Assert Dominance.

How about some cloak fixes?

I bet they could implement some sort of "shimmer" when the cloaked person moves, then they wouldn't be so invisible.

AND

They could make your recticle turn red when it passes over that spot that is more blurry than the rest of the screen.

I bet that would help.

*end sarcasm*

Honestly Y dubbs, this is a very very poor excuse of an example video

Moody has been running min scout for over a year

And Nova knives for longer

95% of scouts do not use Nova knives, and even of that, 85% of scouts do not run min scout that get a bonus to them

If he had been basically any other cloaked scout, it wwould have taken him 4-8 seconds to kill those heavies and scout on the bridge with a shotgun, in which time he would have died easily

On the flip side, if he had been using any other sidearm/primary it might have been longer and he would have been mowed down

He used a niche weapon, in a niche suit, with niche modules

Not many people can run around with 400 health and still go 17-7

By being as invisible as he was with a proto cloak and 3/2 damps, Moody is sacrificing hundreds of CPU/PG just to be invisible

He is effectively losing a proto weapon, proto grenades, and sacrificing 400+ armor/ hacking ability/ run ability to make this fit work

If he is running E war to evade everyone, why shouldn't he be able to evade, well, everyone?

The cloak give many negative benefits to counter the positives

Such as not being able to hear anything around you (Moody cloaked up behind the point at A and died to an orbital because he did not hear it drop), its useless if you don't have the damps to back it up, and the high CPU/PG limits your whole suit

Anything below a proto cloak is basically trash, so Moody is sacrificing elsewhere to use the very best cloack there is, so why not be able to cloak up and cloak out repeatedly?

If it was advanced or basic cloak, yes I would understand the QQ

But fitting a proto and QQing?

Eh

i think the problem stems from a good player in a invisible damp scout suit is kind of OP. no one is complaining about cloaked scrub scouts. but i know the day i seen lightning in a pub when the cloak first came out i said to myself this will be a scary FOTM a good slayer thats invisible.

LOL You mad? But seriously. Don't blame your loss on the cloak. It's a ****** game mechanic that wasn't well thought out. It needs to have a delay in the decloak so that the player doesn't just shoot and you have no idea where it came from. I'm sick of that as well. There is no counter to a guy with a cloak and 3 profile dampeners. In EVE there are always counters, but in DUST there are just ... well none. You need a cloaking delay before you can perform a task like shooting. Something like a 3 second delay. These guys that can get in shoot then cloak back up before you even know what happened... well that's just not fun at all.

But yeah. I'm only saying that because I agree cloak is broken. OH would have murdered your corp regardless of cloak so don't complain about that.

Sorry, man.
I usually agree with you, but in this case, I think the cloak worked fine.

If you want to add a cooldown mechanic, I can only accept it if cloaks are given 100% invisibility, including immunity to line-of-sight scanning.

Also, he didn't get non-stop OHK, and he died more often than not. Literally, nearly half of his engagements got him killed. So it's not like the operation of the cloak makes someone invincible.