DUST Search - Tanking: The least fun role.

True Adamance wrote:

Hakyou Brutor wrote:

Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's f*cking horrible.

You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your ***, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of b*tches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely f*cked. It's not that I'm a sh*t tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad.

That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks.

Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target.

Tanking: officially the least fun role.

I'm actually all cool with being an AV platform. I personally think that's primarily what HAV should be.

The Highest tier and most powerful AV units on the battlefield.

That's why I would like to think that all forms of vehicle would be encouraged to be placed on the field to that Tanks can become a viable and regular play style.

Not only this but I would like to think in Legion Tanks could have a designated role and or certain actions they can perform to aid in the combat so that their inclusion in battles is more tactical the power based.

Issue is though that Hakyou is right. HAV operation is not enjoyable. Rails have arbitrary range restictions that do not make sense, combat is relegated to shot range brawls with no long range options, vehicles have constant fast regeneration encouraging a hit, run, and regen rather than longer battles and tactical module use. Additionally modules and fittings have be dumbed down so much there are so few viable tank builds or options for combat vehicles.....

I have no issue with Tanks being unable to directly and easily engage infantry with their large turrets I think that is great and makes incentive for tankers to fit and use secondarly light turret gunners, or to run with squads for protection. That In my mind is how it should be.

Personally I'd be all for tanks having greater HP but less regen, or slower regen.

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Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 785	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:15:00 - [1] - Quote Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's fcking horrible. You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your *, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of btches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely fcked. It's not that I'm a sht tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks. Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target. Tanking: officially the least fun role. "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 585	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:28:00 - [2] - Quote < Zero SP currently in tanks, can still kill infantry easily enough with militia tanks. Arnold Schwarzenegger voice Fit the small turrets. Fit them now! Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 3431	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:38:00 - [3] - Quote Little known fact:if tanks disappeared, no one would notice and AV would go away. Shocker! "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Benjamin Ciscko The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2386	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:48:00 - [4] - Quote I practically only ever tank in PC. Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
Harpyja Legio DXIV 1958	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:52:00 - [5] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's fcking horrible. You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your *, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of btches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely fcked. It's not that I'm a sht tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks. Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target. Tanking: officially the least fun role. Glad someone else feels the pain after the blaster nerf. I seriously need to be under 20 meters from a fatty just to have any shot at killing them. Now if it's a proto forge gun fatty or a proto swarm Min commando at 100 meters, I'm better off to just run with my tail between my legs, because they can do considerable damage as I close the distance between us and they can kill me before I get enough time to let my dispersion die down so I can kill them. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 787	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:52:00 - [6] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I practically only ever tank in PC. Let me ask you this, how often is it that all you in a PC is go counter-tank? "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
MINA Longstrike 928	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:53:00 - [7] - Quote I find that the people who most frequently complain about vehicles, whether it be dropships, car heavies, tanks or the like are people who have NEVER BOTHERED TO INVEST IN AV WEAPONS, It came up while I was playing with an acquaintance last night and he was bitching about how 'op' car heavies are, and before he could go on his great big long rant I asked a simple question. "Do you have any skillpoints into an av weapon?" "No" "THEN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN, THERE IS A VIABLE COUNTER AND YOU REFUSE TO SKILL INTO IT OR USE IT". It is quite simply people who don't want to put down their infantry killing rifle for any reason the ones most affecting vehicles - among some of their absolutely idiotic suggestions that I've seen are demands for all vehicles to show up on their passive scans from a minimum of 100 meters away so they always have time to run and hide and duck behind cover. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11324	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:57:00 - [8] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's fcking horrible. You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your *, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of btches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely fcked. It's not that I'm a sht tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks. Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target. Tanking: officially the least fun role. I'm actually all cool with being an AV platform. I personally think that's primarily what HAV should be. The Highest tier and most powerful AV units on the battlefield. That's why I would like to think that all forms of vehicle would be encouraged to be placed on the field to that Tanks can become a viable and regular play style. Not only this but I would like to think in Legion Tanks could have a designated role and or certain actions they can perform to aid in the combat so that their inclusion in battles is more tactical the power based. Issue is though that Hakyou is right. HAV operation is not enjoyable. Rails have arbitrary range restictions that do not make sense, combat is relegated to shot range brawls with no long range options, vehicles have constant fast regeneration encouraging a hit, run, and regen rather than longer battles and tactical module use. Additionally modules and fittings have be dumbed down so much there are so few viable tank builds or options for combat vehicles..... I have no issue with Tanks being unable to directly and easily engage infantry with their large turrets I think that is great and makes incentive for tankers to fit and use secondarly light turret gunners, or to run with squads for protection. That In my mind is how it should be. Personally I'd be all for tanks having greater HP but less regen, or slower regen. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
Benjamin Ciscko The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2386	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:59:00 - [9] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I practically only ever tank in PC. Let me ask you this, how often is it that all you in a PC is go counter-tank? It depends the map really for the most part if it's like 2in 2out SRL I go counter tank but if it's say 3in 2 out cargo hub I go counter infantry and just sit on the point because ERA only ever brings ADS spam on that map and maybe 1 tank as opposed to our two, that or I go in a round robbin dying a f*ck ton speed hacking points. Though pre-rail nerf I only ever brought in anti-tank tanks. Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
Will Driver Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 88	Posted - 2014.06.29 03:20:00 - [10] - Quote You mean tanking is not instant kill and instant win anymore? You sound way too entitled and get zero sympathy from me. Time to get good. GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥ GÇò Albert Einstein

jerrmy12 kahoalii New Age Empire. 1580	Posted - 2014.06.29 03:29:00 - [11] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's fcking horrible. You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your *, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of btches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely fcked. It's not that I'm a sht tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks. Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target. Tanking: officially the least fun role. Glad someone else feels the pain after the blaster nerf. I seriously need to be under 20 meters from a fatty just to have any shot at killing them. Now if it's a proto forge gun fatty or a proto swarm Min commando at 100 meters, I'm better off to just run with my tail between my legs, because they can do considerable damage as I close the distance between us and they can kill me before I get enough time to let my dispersion die down so I can kill them. May my officer forge run through you. Closed beta vet. If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 794	Posted - 2014.06.29 03:40:00 - [12] - Quote Will Driver wrote: You mean tanking is not instant kill and instant win anymore? You sound way too entitled and get zero sympathy from me. Time to get good. Here we go, another dipwad who has no idea what he's talking about. "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3886	Posted - 2014.06.29 03:40:00 - [13] - Quote Wow, QQ moar OP. Tanking is still good. I had a match in a four-man tank squad running three vehicles that pulled four orbitals just fucking around. Protip: small turrets wreck pubs. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
jerrmy12 kahoalii New Age Empire. 1580	Posted - 2014.06.29 03:48:00 - [14] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Wow, QQ moar OP. Tanking is still good. I had a match in a four-man tank squad running three vehicles that pulled four orbitals just fucking around. Protip: small turrets wreck pubs. Protip: don't expect blackberries to know. Wait, wrong forum, I mean blueberries. Closed beta vet. If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
The Eristic Dust 90210 490	Posted - 2014.06.29 03:50:00 - [15] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target Imagine? I've used the Ion Pistol. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Will Driver Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 88	Posted - 2014.06.29 03:53:00 - [16] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Will Driver wrote: You mean tanking is not instant kill and instant win anymore? You sound way too entitled and get zero sympathy from me. Time to get good. Here we go, another dipwad who has no idea what he's talking about. I felt the same way about you, but you were impolite enough to say so first. Congrats. GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥ GÇò Albert Einstein
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 590	Posted - 2014.06.29 04:06:00 - [17] - Quote Quote: cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. I just realized something... this would make me better than the best tanker! Wait... that's a bad thing... No! I didn't mean it, Assault Swarm Launcher! PLEASE DON'T HURT ME!!! D: Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Harpyja Legio DXIV 1960	Posted - 2014.06.29 04:41:00 - [18] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Wow, QQ moar OP. Tanking is still good. I had a match in a four-man tank squad running three vehicles that pulled four orbitals just fucking around. Protip: small turrets wreck pubs. We were in comms for that, plus we were all experienced. And not everyone was sporting proto AV like they are now for the event. I swear that there's nothing holding back proto AV anymore after the large blaster nerf; it'll just take some time before they all realize it. You have to treat blueberries in your gunner seats as if you're going solo. Don't expect them to take care of anything, they're just a bonus. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 156	Posted - 2014.06.29 04:43:00 - [19] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Wow, QQ moar OP. Tanking is still good. I had a match in a four-man tank squad running three vehicles that pulled four orbitals just fucking around. Protip: small turrets wreck pubs. actually the only small turrets that wreck pubs are rails. Protip from a pro.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3886	Posted - 2014.06.29 04:48:00 - [20] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Quote: cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. I just realized something... this would make me better than the best tanker! Wait... that's a bad thing... No! I didn't mean it, Assault Swarm Launcher! PLEASE DON'T HURT ME!!! D: I did in a swarmer at 70m with my neutron blaster the other day. I don't feel like a scrub while I use a blaster tank anymore. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!

Atiim EnvyUs. 9976	Posted - 2014.06.29 05:22:00 - [21] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's fcking horrible. I've been rocking a Gunnlogi with about 5k Shields and AT-20s, and the experience is rather fun. Not nearly as fun as tanking before Uprising 1.6 of course, but the current vehicle model is a bi-product of your own subset's actions, so the blame rests on your hands. Would it be accurate to assume that the only reason why you don't find tanking fun is because AVers can actually kill you now? Because that seems to be the case here. Hakyou Brutor wrote:* You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your **, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of btches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely fcked. It's not that I'm a sht tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. No players asked for HAVs (and Dropships) to be nerfed because AV weapons were -theoretically- immune to them. No amount of chest thumping, bashing, crying, or ad-hominem will change that fact. This may blow your mind, but you aren't supposed to kill the Forge Gunner with an 80GJ Blaster because they aren't (nor were they ever) meant to be Anti-Personnel weapons. Source: CCP Rattati wrote: Small Blaster ROF and dispersion were increased to make it easier to hit infantry, the intent was buff. How did Rail and dmg mod nerf change AV-Vehicle balance? The only change like Atiim says, PLC buff, AV grenade slight buff, two bugfixes and rep nerf. LB was never supposed to be anti-infantry. Hakyou Brutor wrote: That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks. I can easily kill things 10m away from me with a Large Missile Turret, and I've seen plenty of tankers get kills from beyond 10m with an 80GJ Blaster. I'm quite sure I could as well if I decide to spec into them. As for their role in PC, have you ever thought about using them as on-board spawning systems? How about fitting 20GJ Turrets and declaring open season? You know, actually support your team? Hakyou Brutor wrote: Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target. Tanking: officially the least fun role. So basically imagine fighting someone who knows how to strafe? I don't consider that to be the least fun role, as I still find enjoyment out of 'nabing people with my ATs and being a make-shift APC. You should try it sometime. Here's a fit to get you started. It's actually viable now due to the 80GJ Railgun and Damage Amplifier nerfs. Taking Care of The Pilot Infestation in North American Skirmish -HAND
Atiim EnvyUs. 9976	Posted - 2014.06.29 05:25:00 - [22] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Little known fact:if tanks disappeared, no one would notice and AV would go away. Shocker! Considering how the vast majority of my SP was spent improving my ability to fight HAVs, I (and a whole lot of other AVers) would notice. Taking Care of The Pilot Infestation in North American Skirmish -HAND
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 322	Posted - 2014.06.29 06:24:00 - [23] - Quote hmmmm 20 meteres...... You guys do know that blasters are short ranged weapons right -.- Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC 469	Posted - 2014.06.29 06:36:00 - [24] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's fcking horrible. You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your *, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of btches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely fcked. It's not that I'm a sht tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks. Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target. Tanking: officially the least fun role. You got it. Your blaster was not designed to be anti infantry, damn sure wasnt meant to be anti everything. You should know this but let me help you with that forger, its called the 5 other people in your squad whom you move around the map with. Or the other 15 people on your team. Turns out a forger is very easy to kill with, well anything really. Oh wait you may not have heard, tanks cant run all over the map solo and kill everything anymore. Now you know. Start working with your squad, tankkng is not a solo proposition any longer. I got boots on the ground and I need vehicle support, now YOU need my support as well, so dont be a douche. Next time that forger gets after ya, just yell for John to cloak up and run up there in his pretty little Cal Scout suit and boom you are good. Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC 469	Posted - 2014.06.29 06:44:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's fcking horrible. You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your *, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of btches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely fcked. It's not that I'm a sht tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks. Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target. Tanking: officially the least fun role. I'm actually all cool with being an AV platform. I personally think that's primarily what HAV should be. The Highest tier and most powerful AV units on the battlefield. That's why I would like to think that all forms of vehicle would be encouraged to be placed on the field to that Tanks can become a viable and regular play style. Not only this but I would like to think in Legion Tanks could have a designated role and or certain actions they can perform to aid in the combat so that their inclusion in battles is more tactical the power based. Issue is though that Hakyou is right. HAV operation is not enjoyable. Rails have arbitrary range restictions that do not make sense, combat is relegated to shot range brawls with no long range options, vehicles have constant fast regeneration encouraging a hit, run, and regen rather than longer battles and tactical module use. Additionally modules and fittings have be dumbed down so much there are so few viable tank builds or options for combat vehicles..... I have no issue with Tanks being unable to directly and easily engage infantry with their large turrets I think that is great and makes incentive for tankers to fit and use secondarly light turret gunners, or to run with squads for protection. That In my mind is how it should be. Personally I'd be all for tanks having greater HP but less regen, or slower regen. 300 meters isnt long range? Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
edguy 111 Quebec United 42	Posted - 2014.06.29 06:56:00 - [26] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's fcking horrible. You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your *, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of btches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely fcked. It's not that I'm a sht tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks. Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target. Tanking: officially the least fun role. iam a dedicate av and got everything able to destroy a tank at proto lvl, and i found it way to easy destroying a tank now. i used to solo many tank before because of my arsenal and my skills in av of all kind but it was poor drivers. And a proto min commando with pro 4 and lvl 4 reload speed is really op lol but anyway if swarms,lai dai,mines,c4,jihad jeep was not working my squad always have proto av's of all kind so tank and tank spamming was never a problem for me it was my fun in dust.3 guys leaving a lav in front of a tank with all proto av is priceless. i have to say that av and tank was perfect before the nerf peoples complaining dont know how to use team work or/and not specialise in av because it was fine.now it terrible i solo EVERY tank i see and kill them so fast that they dont call anything after. im now a av specialise out of work lol waaaazzaaaaa!
CRAZYHORSE ONE EIGHT CowTek IT Infotech 60	Posted - 2014.06.29 06:59:00 - [27] - Quote It is nowhere near as much fun as it used to be. I run tanks to kill tanks and it's getting more bland with each tank update. They've taken away: Marauders Enforcers Black Ops Compressed rail guns Regulated rail guns Compressed blaster Stabilized blasters Fragmented missile launchers Accelerated missile launchers Active heat sinks passive heat sinks Passive shield hardeners Passive armour hardeners Turret speed rotation mods (replaced with skills that don't work) Remote armour repairers Remote shield repairers Passive damage mods Passive shield rechargers 180mm armour plates One high slot and one low slot per hull Did I miss anything? So most of the variations of fittings are gone. Sigh.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 797	Posted - 2014.06.29 06:59:00 - [28] - Quote Dust 514: The game in which handheld miniguns have more usable range than a vehicle mounted blaster turret. "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC 469	Posted - 2014.06.29 06:59:00 - [29] - Quote edguy 111 wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Hey, do you anti-tank guys (not av guys, there's a difference) who constantly want tanks to be nerfed even know what its like to tank? It's fcking horrible. You asked for tanks to be nerfed cause you were too lazy to get off your *, pick up a forge or swarm launcher, and kill us. No, instead you went on the forums and cried like a bunch of btches, now my 15 mil SP I have into tanks is completely fcked. It's not that I'm a sht tanker, cause even the best tanker in the game can't kill a forger 20 meters in front of him cause the dispersion is soo bad. That is the problem. No matter how skilled you are, or how much SP you have, there is no way to kill anything more than 10 meters away from you. The ONLY place tanks have in PC anymore is as counter tanks. Imagine you fired your gun directly at someones head and it went literally everywhere except your target. Tanking: officially the least fun role. iam a dedicate av and got everything able to destroy a tank at proto lvl, and i found it way to easy destroying a tank now. i used to solo many tank before because of my arsenal and my skills in av of all kind but it was poor drivers. And a proto min commando with pro 4 and lvl 4 reload speed is really op lol but anyway if swarms,lai dai,mines,c4,jihad jeep was not working my squad always have proto av's of all kind so tank and tank spamming was never a problem for me it was my fun in dust.3 guys leaving a lav in front of a talk with all proto av is priceless. i have to say that av and tank was perfect before the nerf peoples complaining dont know how to use team work or/and not specialise in av because it was fine.now it terrible i solo EVERY tank i see and kill them so fast that they dont call anything after. im now a av specialise out of work lol I get english isnt your first love, but stay with me here canuck. There is video evidence on you tube of tripple rep maddys takimg proto swarms with prof 5 and just sitting there. You dig? Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 797	Posted - 2014.06.29 07:00:00 - [30] - Quote CRAZYHORSE ONE EIGHT wrote: It is nowhere near as much fun as it used to be. I run tanks to kill tanks and it's getting more bland with each tank update. They've taken away: Marauders Enforcers Black Ops Compressed rail guns Regulated rail guns Compressed blaster Stabilized blasters Fragmented missile launchers Accelerated missile launchers Active heat sinks passive heat sinks Passive shield hardeners Passive armour hardeners Turret speed rotation mods (replaced with skills that don't work) Remote armour repairers Remote shield repairers Passive damage mods Passive shield rechargers 180mm armour plates One high slot and one low slot per hull Did I miss anything? So most of the variations of fittings are gone. Sigh. Pretty much this, it's not that it's not viable, there's just no variation and is no fun. "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.



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