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Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 14:19:00 - [1] - Quote And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3711	Posted - 2014.06.23 14:27:00 - [2] - Quote Are you Godin? CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 14:29:00 - [3] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Are you Godin? Depends, am I, am I not? Is this the matrix? Are you Neo?
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 495	Posted - 2014.06.23 15:06:00 - [4] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Yes I'm mad, deal with it. No, you deal with it.[/thread]
Argetlam Thorson Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 73	Posted - 2014.06.23 16:22:00 - [5] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB The only seriously effective AV FG is the Breach. This means that I get one shot every 6 seconds and am immobilized in between shots. You get a shot (pretty close damage per shot) every, what, 3/4 of a second, you can move, you get a larger mag, and have more HP. My Jihad Jeep is the most effective AV option I have. Deal with it.
BLOOD Ruler The Lionheart Coalition 385	Posted - 2014.06.23 17:51:00 - [6] - Quote Because Tanks suck Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3718	Posted - 2014.06.23 18:23:00 - [7] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Are you Godin? Depends, am I, am I not? Is this the matrix? Are you Neo? EDIT: Better question: Do you not look at your own threads when you first log on like a normal person? I may have inadvertently skipped whichever thread you're referring to :) CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 19:43:00 - [8] - Quote Argetlam Thorson wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB The only seriously effective AV FG is the Breach. This means that I get one shot every 6 seconds and am immobilized in between shots. You get a shot (pretty close damage per shot) every, what, 3/4 of a second, you can move, you get a larger mag, and have more HP. My Jihad Jeep is the most effective AV option I have. Deal with it. That argument died already. Catch up.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 19:44:00 - [9] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Because Tanks suck Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Yes I'm mad, deal with it. No, you deal with it.[/thread] neither of these are arguments whatsoever.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 166	Posted - 2014.06.23 20:10:00 - [10] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB jihad jeeps are fun and clever... and not so easy to pull off on a skilled tanker. and still one of a few very limited effective AV options.

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1085	Posted - 2014.06.23 21:31:00 - [11] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB That is a legit kill and rightfully so. Takes time to prep and it's trickier on bumpy terrain than you can imagine. It actually gives my tanker alt good laughs everytime it gets killed by JLAV. That's not too often as in many cases they can be popped even by small arms. About the same amount of lols in that case. That's part of the brilliance that is New Eden, that is Dust. :-S
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 21:42:00 - [12] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB That is a legit kill and rightfully so. Takes time to prep and it's trickier on bumpy terrain than you can imagine. It actually gives my tanker alt good laughs everytime it gets killed by JLAV. That's not too often as in many cases they can be popped even by small arms. About the same amount of lols in that case. That's part of the brilliance that is New Eden, that is Dust. I've gotten a total of 65 kills doing it. I call bullshit.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11055	Posted - 2014.06.23 21:43:00 - [13] - Quote Really they should not be. CCP should not be condoning one broken mechanic to deal with another broken mechanic. If this is the case why can I not just fit a tormentor out with explosives and crash into an Typhoon. It'd certainly increase my EVE side KDR. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:01:00 - [14] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB jihad jeeps are fun and clever... and not so easy to pull off on a skilled tanker. and still one of a few very limited effective AV options. Fun for you, 500k out per ramming for me, and that's not fun. It must be fun for both parties, and it should be fair for both parties. It's super easy to do, you seem so suffer from being a bluedot if you think it's hard.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:04:00 - [15] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB That is a legit kill and rightfully so. Takes time to prep and it's trickier on bumpy terrain than you can imagine. It actually gives my tanker alt good laughs everytime it gets killed by JLAV. That's not too often as in many cases they can be popped even by small arms. About the same amount of lols in that case. That's part of the brilliance that is New Eden, that is Dust. It takes much longer to get iSK up for my HAV, invalid, and no, it isn't; stop using scrubby Cal vehicles. Also I noticed the word alt, as it's not your main thing, you do it for shitz and giggles......... kk, Not taking you serious. EDIT: ramming **** has nothing to do with New Eden wonders.
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 411	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:29:00 - [16] - Quote Same argument as ramship vs ADS, groundwise . The tools are there, except countering such tactics is tough and require complete attention on the task. Most of the time , vehicle users have infantry kill farming as priority over vehicle countering. R.I.P. CPM Nova Knife
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 506	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:33:00 - [17] - Quote You're just butt-hurt because people are popping your mobile murder fortress without an opportunity for your to flee and/or ultra rep. Sorry I interrupted you mowing people down with reckless abandon and running away once the swarms and FG blasts start flying.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11056	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:35:00 - [18] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Same argument as ramship vs ADS, groundwise . The tools are there, except countering such tactics is tough and require complete attention on the task. Most of the time , vehicle users have infantry kill farming as priority over vehicle countering. Something I wish was the inverse of the current situation. I'd rather spend more time rolling around hunting other HAV and destroying fortifications than trying to blow up infantry. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11056	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:36:00 - [19] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: You're just butt-hurt because people are popping your without an opportunity for your to flee and/or ultra rep. Sorry I interrupted you mowing people down with reckless abandon and running away once the swarms and FG blasts start flying. As if anyone in Tank Spamming STB should ever talk about " mobile murder fortresses". " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 506	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:42:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: You're just butt-hurt because people are popping your without an opportunity for your to flee and/or ultra rep. Sorry I interrupted you mowing people down with reckless abandon and running away once the swarms and FG blasts start flying. As if anyone in Tank Spamming STB should ever talk about " mobile murder fortresses". Haha, I can't speak for the rest of my corp. Tylynn Jade? Bahahaha. I only Snipe/Counter-snipe/Logi.

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 23:56:00 - [21] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Same argument as ramship vs ADS, groundwise . The tools are there, except countering such tactics is tough and require complete attention on the task. Most of the time , vehicle users have infantry kill farming as priority over vehicle countering. DS ramming always needed to go. And no, it's the fact that unlike infantry, we can't do 360's in .0000001 seconds all day long. Hell, turning a HAV is awkward as is.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:00:00 - [22] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: You're just butt-hurt because people are popping your mobile murder fortress without an opportunity for your to flee and/or ultra rep. Sorry I interrupted you mowing people down with reckless abandon and running away once the swarms and FG blasts start flying. I never said I had any problem (as far as I've seen in bravo) for AV, I clearly made it aware that it was only about JLAV's. Also, never used the 3x rep AV settup, as it seemed silly to me, I mean damn, rails were (and still to an extent with proto damage mods on a particle cannon) ganking me in three shots as is, so why would I make it 2? Lastly, I only shoot at infantry if there's nothing better to shoot at. Are you okay sir? as you clearly are having issues with reading.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 506	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:13:00 - [23] - Quote JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right?
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:16:00 - [24] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right? It's unavoidable, and it instantly kills you, no matter how much tank you got. It also can be absolutely free, and if not free, real damn cheap. It's ***** broken, and you know it. This isn't the "Spirit of New Eden", this is just broken **.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 508	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:24:00 - [25] - Quote It is very avoidable. You can destroy them before they reach you, drive away (as tankers so often do when facing a legitimate threat), or just move onto some bumpy terrain. If JLAVs aren't driving straight, at full speed, on flat road, they often fail. BPO LAVs are extremely rare nowadays, and even those who have them paid SOMETHING for them, once upon a time.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 693	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:24:00 - [26] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right? It's unavoidable, and it instantly kills you, no matter how much tank you got. It also can be absolutely free, and if not free, real damn cheap. It's ***** broken, and you know it. This isn't the "Spirit of New Eden", this is just broken **. they are not unavoidable, and they are easy to killl quit whining noob
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:30:00 - [27] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right? It's unavoidable, and it instantly kills you, no matter how much tank you got. It also can be absolutely free, and if not free, real damn cheap. It's ***** broken, and you know it. This isn't the "Spirit of New Eden", this is just broken **. they are not unavoidable, and they are easy to killl quit whining noob You were whining about railguns not being OP cannons anymore. Also I've been playing before you even knew about dust. You are the noob in this situation. And yes, they are unavoidable.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 509	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:34:00 - [28] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: And yes, they are unavoidable. They're not. I just stated several ways how they can be avoided, and that's not even ALL the ways.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 694	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:38:00 - [29] - Quote railguns are broken, there is no reason to field one idiot. i have a valid reason to complain about them, ur whining about something killig you because your situational awareness is at a noob level, learn to pay attention before you cry about kamikaze cars insta poping ur tank, its no worse than a detroyer sucide ganking a t2 mining barge, if the barge pilot pays attntion he wont get ganked. quit being a noob
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 696	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:41:00 - [30] - Quote iv also known abut dust since 2004 so yeah stick with it noob



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