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Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 14:19:00 - [1] - Quote And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3711	Posted - 2014.06.23 14:27:00 - [2] - Quote Are you Godin? CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 14:29:00 - [3] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Are you Godin? Depends, am I, am I not? Is this the matrix? Are you Neo?
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 495	Posted - 2014.06.23 15:06:00 - [4] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Yes I'm mad, deal with it. No, you deal with it.[/thread]
Argetlam Thorson Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 73	Posted - 2014.06.23 16:22:00 - [5] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB The only seriously effective AV FG is the Breach. This means that I get one shot every 6 seconds and am immobilized in between shots. You get a shot (pretty close damage per shot) every, what, 3/4 of a second, you can move, you get a larger mag, and have more HP. My Jihad Jeep is the most effective AV option I have. Deal with it.
BLOOD Ruler The Lionheart Coalition 385	Posted - 2014.06.23 17:51:00 - [6] - Quote Because Tanks suck Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3718	Posted - 2014.06.23 18:23:00 - [7] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Are you Godin? Depends, am I, am I not? Is this the matrix? Are you Neo? EDIT: Better question: Do you not look at your own threads when you first log on like a normal person? I may have inadvertently skipped whichever thread you're referring to :) CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 19:43:00 - [8] - Quote Argetlam Thorson wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB The only seriously effective AV FG is the Breach. This means that I get one shot every 6 seconds and am immobilized in between shots. You get a shot (pretty close damage per shot) every, what, 3/4 of a second, you can move, you get a larger mag, and have more HP. My Jihad Jeep is the most effective AV option I have. Deal with it. That argument died already. Catch up.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 19:44:00 - [9] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Because Tanks suck Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Yes I'm mad, deal with it. No, you deal with it.[/thread] neither of these are arguments whatsoever.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 166	Posted - 2014.06.23 20:10:00 - [10] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB jihad jeeps are fun and clever... and not so easy to pull off on a skilled tanker. and still one of a few very limited effective AV options.

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1085	Posted - 2014.06.23 21:31:00 - [11] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB That is a legit kill and rightfully so. Takes time to prep and it's trickier on bumpy terrain than you can imagine. It actually gives my tanker alt good laughs everytime it gets killed by JLAV. That's not too often as in many cases they can be popped even by small arms. About the same amount of lols in that case. That's part of the brilliance that is New Eden, that is Dust. :-S
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 21:42:00 - [12] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB That is a legit kill and rightfully so. Takes time to prep and it's trickier on bumpy terrain than you can imagine. It actually gives my tanker alt good laughs everytime it gets killed by JLAV. That's not too often as in many cases they can be popped even by small arms. About the same amount of lols in that case. That's part of the brilliance that is New Eden, that is Dust. I've gotten a total of 65 kills doing it. I call bullshit.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11055	Posted - 2014.06.23 21:43:00 - [13] - Quote Really they should not be. CCP should not be condoning one broken mechanic to deal with another broken mechanic. If this is the case why can I not just fit a tormentor out with explosives and crash into an Typhoon. It'd certainly increase my EVE side KDR. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:01:00 - [14] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB jihad jeeps are fun and clever... and not so easy to pull off on a skilled tanker. and still one of a few very limited effective AV options. Fun for you, 500k out per ramming for me, and that's not fun. It must be fun for both parties, and it should be fair for both parties. It's super easy to do, you seem so suffer from being a bluedot if you think it's hard.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:04:00 - [15] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB That is a legit kill and rightfully so. Takes time to prep and it's trickier on bumpy terrain than you can imagine. It actually gives my tanker alt good laughs everytime it gets killed by JLAV. That's not too often as in many cases they can be popped even by small arms. About the same amount of lols in that case. That's part of the brilliance that is New Eden, that is Dust. It takes much longer to get iSK up for my HAV, invalid, and no, it isn't; stop using scrubby Cal vehicles. Also I noticed the word alt, as it's not your main thing, you do it for shitz and giggles......... kk, Not taking you serious. EDIT: ramming **** has nothing to do with New Eden wonders.
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 411	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:29:00 - [16] - Quote Same argument as ramship vs ADS, groundwise . The tools are there, except countering such tactics is tough and require complete attention on the task. Most of the time , vehicle users have infantry kill farming as priority over vehicle countering. R.I.P. CPM Nova Knife
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 506	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:33:00 - [17] - Quote You're just butt-hurt because people are popping your mobile murder fortress without an opportunity for your to flee and/or ultra rep. Sorry I interrupted you mowing people down with reckless abandon and running away once the swarms and FG blasts start flying.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11056	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:35:00 - [18] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Same argument as ramship vs ADS, groundwise . The tools are there, except countering such tactics is tough and require complete attention on the task. Most of the time , vehicle users have infantry kill farming as priority over vehicle countering. Something I wish was the inverse of the current situation. I'd rather spend more time rolling around hunting other HAV and destroying fortifications than trying to blow up infantry. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11056	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:36:00 - [19] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: You're just butt-hurt because people are popping your without an opportunity for your to flee and/or ultra rep. Sorry I interrupted you mowing people down with reckless abandon and running away once the swarms and FG blasts start flying. As if anyone in Tank Spamming STB should ever talk about " mobile murder fortresses". " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 506	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:42:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: You're just butt-hurt because people are popping your without an opportunity for your to flee and/or ultra rep. Sorry I interrupted you mowing people down with reckless abandon and running away once the swarms and FG blasts start flying. As if anyone in Tank Spamming STB should ever talk about " mobile murder fortresses". Haha, I can't speak for the rest of my corp. Tylynn Jade? Bahahaha. I only Snipe/Counter-snipe/Logi.

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 23:56:00 - [21] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Same argument as ramship vs ADS, groundwise . The tools are there, except countering such tactics is tough and require complete attention on the task. Most of the time , vehicle users have infantry kill farming as priority over vehicle countering. DS ramming always needed to go. And no, it's the fact that unlike infantry, we can't do 360's in .0000001 seconds all day long. Hell, turning a HAV is awkward as is.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:00:00 - [22] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: You're just butt-hurt because people are popping your mobile murder fortress without an opportunity for your to flee and/or ultra rep. Sorry I interrupted you mowing people down with reckless abandon and running away once the swarms and FG blasts start flying. I never said I had any problem (as far as I've seen in bravo) for AV, I clearly made it aware that it was only about JLAV's. Also, never used the 3x rep AV settup, as it seemed silly to me, I mean damn, rails were (and still to an extent with proto damage mods on a particle cannon) ganking me in three shots as is, so why would I make it 2? Lastly, I only shoot at infantry if there's nothing better to shoot at. Are you okay sir? as you clearly are having issues with reading.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 506	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:13:00 - [23] - Quote JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right?
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:16:00 - [24] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right? It's unavoidable, and it instantly kills you, no matter how much tank you got. It also can be absolutely free, and if not free, real damn cheap. It's ***** broken, and you know it. This isn't the "Spirit of New Eden", this is just broken **.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 508	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:24:00 - [25] - Quote It is very avoidable. You can destroy them before they reach you, drive away (as tankers so often do when facing a legitimate threat), or just move onto some bumpy terrain. If JLAVs aren't driving straight, at full speed, on flat road, they often fail. BPO LAVs are extremely rare nowadays, and even those who have them paid SOMETHING for them, once upon a time.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 693	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:24:00 - [26] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right? It's unavoidable, and it instantly kills you, no matter how much tank you got. It also can be absolutely free, and if not free, real damn cheap. It's ***** broken, and you know it. This isn't the "Spirit of New Eden", this is just broken **. they are not unavoidable, and they are easy to killl quit whining noob
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:30:00 - [27] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right? It's unavoidable, and it instantly kills you, no matter how much tank you got. It also can be absolutely free, and if not free, real damn cheap. It's ***** broken, and you know it. This isn't the "Spirit of New Eden", this is just broken **. they are not unavoidable, and they are easy to killl quit whining noob You were whining about railguns not being OP cannons anymore. Also I've been playing before you even knew about dust. You are the noob in this situation. And yes, they are unavoidable.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 509	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:34:00 - [28] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: And yes, they are unavoidable. They're not. I just stated several ways how they can be avoided, and that's not even ALL the ways.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 694	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:38:00 - [29] - Quote railguns are broken, there is no reason to field one idiot. i have a valid reason to complain about them, ur whining about something killig you because your situational awareness is at a noob level, learn to pay attention before you cry about kamikaze cars insta poping ur tank, its no worse than a detroyer sucide ganking a t2 mining barge, if the barge pilot pays attntion he wont get ganked. quit being a noob
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 696	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:41:00 - [30] - Quote iv also known abut dust since 2004 so yeah stick with it noob

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:41:00 - [31] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And yes, they are unavoidable. They're not. I just stated several ways how they can be avoided, and that's not even ALL the ways. Let's see: 1- destroying a LAV is neigh impossible with a nitro equipped, and just straight up impossible when a hardener is also added. 2- driving away isn't going to happen either, as by the time you see it, it's already too late. you have to be lucky and already be moving to have a chance, and that's if it's behind you, in which nitro and denied. 3- Gallente LAV's have not much of any trouble on "bumpy terrains", so there's that. 4- And that matters why? 30k vs. 500k, or free vs. 500k. it doesn't add up at all. Period.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:42:00 - [32] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: iv also known abut dust since 2004 so yeah stick with it noob Dust didn't exist in 2004. I call bullshit.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 510	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:44:00 - [33] - Quote Get some situational awareness, and sorry (not sorry) that Dust isn't pay to win.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 696	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:48:00 - [34] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: iv also known abut dust since 2004 so yeah stick with it noob Dust didn't exist in 2004. I call bullshit. i got a magazine with a promo add back when the first came up with the concept.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:49:00 - [35] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: railguns are broken, there is no reason to field one idiot. i have a valid reason to complain about them, ur whining about something killig you because your situational awareness is at a noob level, learn to pay attention before you cry about kamikaze cars insta poping ur tank, its no worse than a detroyer sucide ganking a t2 mining barge, if the barge pilot pays attntion he wont get ganked. quit being a noob "Railguns are broken" reads in english to: "I can't 3 shot a guy, so now I can't kill anything, because I suck" Anyways, let me tell you all that's wrong with that: Your situational awareness requires you to be looking for targets, correct? Well, then, there's two things wrong with that: 1: Can't look for JLAV's while being shot at 2: Can't rapidly look around a vehicle 24/7 like infantry can, as turret speed is locked Also add in the fact that due to the nature of blasters, you have to be close to the enemy to actually hit them, therefore being in their area of control a lot, you're prone to being insta ganked by a JLAV. And no, I know they are coming, I can't do anything about it 99% of the time.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:50:00 - [36] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: iv also known abut dust since 2004 so yeah stick with it noob Dust didn't exist in 2004. I call bullshit. i got a magazine with a promo add back when the first came up with the concept. Dust wan't even a concept until 09. They didn't even start thinking of a second game until 06. I still call bullshit.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:52:00 - [37] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Get some situational awareness, and sorry (not sorry) that Dust isn't pay to win. 1: You don't understand what p2w is. 2: I have more than you. And even then, like it matters; sIr, I've tested this several times (65 to be exact now). It's just ungodly broken.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 696	Posted - 2014.06.24 01:08:00 - [38] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: railguns are broken, there is no reason to field one idiot. i have a valid reason to complain about them, ur whining about something killig you because your situational awareness is at a noob level, learn to pay attention before you cry about kamikaze cars insta poping ur tank, its no worse than a detroyer sucide ganking a t2 mining barge, if the barge pilot pays attntion he wont get ganked. quit being a noob "Railguns are broken" reads in english to: "I can't 3 shot a guy, so now I can't kill anything, because I suck" Anyways, let me tell you all that's wrong with that: Your situational awareness requires you to be looking for targets, correct? Well, then, there's two things wrong with that: 1: Can't look for JLAV's while being shot at 2: Can't rapidly look around a vehicle 24/7 like infantry can, as turret speed is locked Also add in the fact that due to the nature of blasters, you have to be close to the enemy to actually hit them, therefore being in their area of control a lot, you're prone to being insta ganked by a JLAV. And no, I know they are coming, I can't do anything about it 99% of the time. lol, sounds like u suk if u get killed by kamikaze cars 99% of the time, they are free points to me i kill 7/9 idiots who try to kamikaze me, the railguns are made to kill tanks and other vehicles and if i cant kill a standard tank with my adv railgun in under 5 shots its broken, tell me how am i supposed to kill a tripple rep tank with in 250m without missing a shot and if i do miss just one shot he reps all the damage i just did, and keepin mind they target gets a 100% speed boost to increase my chances of missing casing me to overheat?? it would be different if we had more than 2 useful modules to fit to a tank
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 114	Posted - 2014.06.24 01:24:00 - [39] - Quote leave jihad jeeps alone.. if they wish to waste like.. think its 40k to 100k on a jeep to kill a tank let them.. Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11063	Posted - 2014.06.24 01:32:00 - [40] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: leave jihad jeeps alone.. if they wish to waste like.. think its 40k to 100k on a jeep to kill a tank let them.. Most people don't have to. 90% of the community has free BPO LAV's. Remotes only cost between 3-15K. So that generally is a hyper fast 3-15K Cruise Missile (requiring only Remote Explosives 1) destroying a 300K+ ISK HAV. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III

Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 1379	Posted - 2014.06.24 01:37:00 - [41] - Quote Jihad Jeeps are a novel tactic, and I like their presence. However, they are way too cheap for their effectiveness. I suggest a limit to the a.Lunt of RE that can stick to a vehicle. 3 seems good. This so t outright kill a tank, but weaken it enough to retreat, or finish it off if its wounded. Should such a limit be impossible to add in, I would remove it completely and have re only stick to non friendly surfaces like walls and hostile vehicles. Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 168	Posted - 2014.06.24 01:55:00 - [42] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB jihad jeeps are fun and clever... and not so easy to pull off on a skilled tanker. and still one of a few very limited effective AV options. Fun for you, 500k out per ramming for me, and that's not fun. It must be fun for both parties, and it should be fair for both parties. It's super easy to do, you seem so suffer from being a bluedot if you think it's hard. insults only weaken your position... is it easier than slaughtering infantry with no av on the field? oh and btw if you are pulling out a 500 k tank in a pub you have no room to call out others for being scrubs... just saying...
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 368	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:01:00 - [43] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB jihad jeeps are fun and clever... and not so easy to pull off on a skilled tanker. and still one of a few very limited effective AV options. Fun for you, 500k out per ramming for me, and that's not fun. It must be fun for both parties, and it should be fair for both parties. It's super easy to do, you seem so suffer from being a bluedot if you think it's hard. insults only weaken your position... is it easier than slaughtering infantry with no av on the field? oh and btw if you are pulling out a 500 k tank in a pub you have no room to call out others for being scrubs... just saying... JLAV =/= AV JLAV = broken tactic that for some reason infantry won't let go that should have never existed. And no, I enjoy actual AV, as they give myself a challenge. JLAV's does no such thing; only brings rage. By the way, where else am I supposed to pull a 500k (my only HAV fit) out then?
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 368	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:02:00 - [44] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Should such a limit be impossible to add in, I would remove it completely and have re only stick to non friendly surfaces like walls and hostile vehicles. That is fine by me.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 368	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:04:00 - [45] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: railguns are broken, there is no reason to field one idiot. i have a valid reason to complain about them, ur whining about something killig you because your situational awareness is at a noob level, learn to pay attention before you cry about kamikaze cars insta poping ur tank, its no worse than a detroyer sucide ganking a t2 mining barge, if the barge pilot pays attntion he wont get ganked. quit being a noob "Railguns are broken" reads in english to: "I can't 3 shot a guy, so now I can't kill anything, because I suck" Anyways, let me tell you all that's wrong with that: Your situational awareness requires you to be looking for targets, correct? Well, then, there's two things wrong with that: 1: Can't look for JLAV's while being shot at 2: Can't rapidly look around a vehicle 24/7 like infantry can, as turret speed is locked Also add in the fact that due to the nature of blasters, you have to be close to the enemy to actually hit them, therefore being in their area of control a lot, you're prone to being insta ganked by a JLAV. And no, I know they are coming, I can't do anything about it 99% of the time. lol, sounds like u suk if u get killed by kamikaze cars 99% of the time, they are free points to me i kill 7/9 idiots who try to kamikaze me, the railguns are made to kill tanks and other vehicles and if i cant kill a standard tank with my adv railgun in under 5 shots its broken, tell me how am i supposed to kill a tripple rep tank with in 250m without missing a shot and if i do miss just one shot he reps all the damage i just did, and keepin mind they target gets a 100% speed boost to increase my chances of missing casing me to overheat?? it would be different if we had more than 2 useful modules to fit to a tank No, I do not, yet when I do, it's the most bullshit death that can occur to me (second is AI turrets sniping across the map). I don't like to die to bullshit.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2014.06.24 04:21:00 - [46] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB jihad jeeps are fun and clever... and not so easy to pull off on a skilled tanker. and still one of a few very limited effective AV options. Fun for you, 500k out per ramming for me, and that's not fun. It must be fun for both parties, and it should be fair for both parties. It's super easy to do, you seem so suffer from being a bluedot if you think it's hard. insults only weaken your position... is it easier than slaughtering infantry with no av on the field? oh and btw if you are pulling out a 500 k tank in a pub you have no room to call out others for being scrubs... just saying... JLAV =/= AV JLAV = broken tactic that for some reason infantry won't let go that should have never existed. And no, I enjoy actual AV, as they give myself a challenge. JLAV's does no such thing; only brings rage. By the way, where else am I supposed to pull a 500k (my only HAV fit) out then?
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1087	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:18:00 - [47] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: That is a legit kill and rightfully so. Takes time to prep and it's trickier on bumpy terrain than you can imagine. It actually gives my tanker alt good laughs everytime it gets killed by JLAV. That's not too often as in many cases they can be popped even by small arms. About the same amount of lols in that case. That's part of the brilliance that is New Eden, that is Dust. It takes much longer to get iSK up for my HAV, invalid, and no, it isn't; stop using scrubby Cal vehicles. Also I noticed the word alt, as it's not your main thing, you do it for shitz and giggles......... kk, Not taking you serious. EDIT: ramming **** has nothing to do with New Eden wonders. Please don't try to prove your point by trying to undermine the person you are discussing with. Alts, as if alternate characters, can be maxed out and serious as cancer. In my case some alts have never missed their cap or any SP event so tanking skills have long been maxed and already that means higher SP than most of Dust playerbase. :-S
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1087	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:31:00 - [48] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: It's unavoidable, and it instantly kills you, no matter how much tank you got. It also can be absolutely free, and if not free, real damn cheap. It's ***** broken, and you know it. This isn't the "Spirit of New Eden", this is just broken . It's not that LAVs can teleport next to you. Good tankers are aware of most vehicle deployments. LAVs can be heard and good tankers realise the risk of possible JLAV and prepare to face it. JLAV user has to: Respawn - or run - to a distant location (otherwise there is a chance LAV deplo gets busted) Vehicle quota must not be reached Has to have peaceful moment to prep REs Has to find where the tank has moved to (weak tankers stay put as turrets, good ones move) Has to approach tank preferably from rear (to avoid getting blown) Has to be lucky enough not to be blown by small arms (or sacrifice more prepping by using other player's remotes) And finally has to hit fast tank enough to detonate - easy on flat ground but very tricky on rolling terrain Above there's plenty of uncertainties or delaying factors. The whole process can take minutes, long time out of a 4-15 min matches. Cheap isk-wise, yes, but isk balancing is worst balancing. The biggest thing is the price in sacrificing fight time on which you could be helping your team otherwise.** :-S
Harpyja Legio DXIV 1991	Posted - 2014.07.04 01:51:00 - [49] - Quote Bump because this thread is older and my "duplicate" got locked "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 40	Posted - 2014.07.04 02:31:00 - [50] - Quote No i want Jihaad jeeps to stay. Why? because its an effective AV tactic. Before you say use forge guns and Swarms. those are good but tankers just run away and spam their hardeners and that crap but if you use Jihaad Jeeps they can catch up and finish you off which is good

Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3952	Posted - 2014.07.04 02:52:00 - [51] - Quote Zindorak wrote: No i want Jihaad jeeps to stay. Why? because its an effective AV tactic. Before you say use forge guns and Swarms. those are good but tankers just run away and spam their hardeners and that crap but if you use Jihaad Jeeps they can catch up and finish you off which is good So what you're saying is you're bad at AV. Right. Get good and then we can talk. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3953	Posted - 2014.07.04 03:25:00 - [52] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Same argument as ramship vs ADS, groundwise . The tools are there, except countering such tactics is tough and require complete attention on the task. Most of the time , vehicle users have infantry kill farming as priority over vehicle countering. I run missiles and rails; with my connection to the servers I play on it's a pain to get consistent kills with either. Consequently, if I'm in a tank, I'm doing it for AV purposes. Now, I'm an experienced tanker at this point and my fittings are high quality. I can generally manage a 2v1 against tanks, or against AV, or against a pair using the two. The JLAV's massive spike damage negates that. If I'm engaged with another HAV, or with AV, I'm incredibly vulnerable to JLAVs in a way that I'm not to anything else in the game. Even a fully modded BFG is less dangerous. In that sense, then, a JLAV invalidates and trivialises a huge number of AV tactics. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 291	Posted - 2014.07.04 03:32:00 - [53] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Zindorak wrote: No i want Jihaad jeeps to stay. Why? because its an effective AV tactic. Before you say use forge guns and Swarms. those are good but tankers just run away and spam their hardeners and that crap but if you use Jihaad Jeeps they can catch up and finish you off which is good So what you're saying is you're bad at AV. Right. Get good and then we can talk. that's unfair... good tankers do just this. they harden up and back off... you cant shoot them through cover, forgers are stationary lest they have an lav ( and only if they are on the ground) swarms dumbfire into rocks and buildings, and by the time you catch up you have to start over... also good tankers run with squads who back them up... so the swarmer is being owned by a scout, the forger is either being sniped, railed, or OB'ed and the only thing left to hope and even the score is a jihad jeep. and seriously before remotes were sticky I was taking out lots of tanks running up on them or setting traps... so what? now I can stick them on my lav and suddenly I'm bad? a scrub? I need to git gud? I say in all fairness any tanker who is getting obliterated match after match by such a "scrubby" tactic needs to get good...seriously if you are getting blown up that much that its an issue and like an insane person you keep doing the exact same crap that got you killed a dozen times before, take a look at your own skill level before you degrade others....
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1902	Posted - 2014.07.04 03:40:00 - [54] - Quote From now on, I'm just going to past my previous response (with minor modifications) to these threads, because it's always the same thread every time.... Baal Omniscient wrote: This is silly. A prof 5 proto assault forge on a fully bpo'd out skinweave heavy can 3 shot a fully fitted, fully specced, massively expensive ADS out of the sky for under 80k, a MLT scout can chuck a basic RE into a room full of proto suits and drop WAY more ISK value than your tank, a fully MLT forge gunner can camp a roof and pick off proto suits all day..... and you guys are pissy that a 30k car loaded up with RE's by a guy who specced into them for that purpose and who can navigate close enough to you to RAM you without you noticing is blowing up your tank? Um... situational awareness much? Teamwork? Isn't that the drivel AV players have been hearing for the last 6-8 months? "Use Teamwork!" Well, have your squad let you know when there's a LAV in your vicinity. You're not with your squad? Well, you're not using teamwork. Sad day. Player ingenuity. It's a beautiful thing. Rail tankers could (and on some maps, do) camp the redline all match. They thought it up as an effective tactic. The only issue I have with it is that there's no effective way to counter it since OB's can't really drop decent tanks anymore. jLAV's ARE easy to counter. You can have teammates set up proxy's which will detonate the RE's on the LAV when they go off. You can have a teammate with a swarm on standby to hit the LAV's and either scare them off, kill them or tag their RE's with missiles, detonating them (along with the driver). Or you can have teammates spot LAV's for you. Or you can have situational awareness since you can hear LAV's from a long ways off. OR you can combine some of these ideas and do pretty well avoiding/killing 99% of them. Happy tanking, jLAV's are the least of your worries. ;) TL;DR: If AV needs teamwork, so do you. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5710	Posted - 2014.07.04 03:42:00 - [55] - Quote I've seen friends use Jihads in action. They really only punish bad tankers. Good tankers eliminate them from a distance, or have squadmates or infantry warn you of the impending doom. They set up good lanes of fire, and force them to approach from an angle that is easy to kill them. Sure, it's still a scrub tactic, and yeah, Good tankers will still get killed by them from time to time. But I see no reason to completely eliminate the ability to utilize sticking RE's to your own vehicles. I do it to my LAV's sometimes to prevent theft. You leave one, and if you see an RE moving around on the screen, you detonate. AV isn't in that bad of a place now either. The only real problem right now is a dropships ability to run. They can EASILY remove themselves from engagements. Afterburners need a longer cooldown. Same with Nitro. Tanks escape far too easily. Nitro and get distance, and then turn a corner. Gone. It's hard to get enough Alpha to pop a tank in those scenarios. That Suicidal Minmatar Scout Uprising 1.1 to Hotfix Bravo. Been fun Guys! PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Ace Mercenary Immortal Guides 1	Posted - 2014.07.04 18:22:00 - [56] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB XD JLAVS for AV only? I get lots of kills driving a JLAV into the objective
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 40	Posted - 2014.07.04 18:24:00 - [57] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Zindorak wrote: No i want Jihaad jeeps to stay. Why? because its an effective AV tactic. Before you say use forge guns and Swarms. those are good but tankers just run away and spam their hardeners and that crap but if you use Jihaad Jeeps they can catch up and finish you off which is good So what you're saying is you're bad at AV. Right. Get good and then we can talk. that's unfair... good tankers do just this. they harden up and back off... you cant shoot them through cover, forgers are stationary lest they have an lav ( and only if they are on the ground) swarms dumbfire into rocks and buildings, and by the time you catch up you have to start over... also good tankers run with squads who back them up... so the swarmer is being owned by a scout, the forger is either being sniped, railed, or OB'ed and the only thing left to hope and even the score is a jihad jeep. and seriously before remotes were sticky I was taking out lots of tanks running up on them or setting traps... so what? now I can stick them on my lav and suddenly I'm bad? a scrub? I need to git gud? I say in all fairness any tanker who is getting obliterated match after match by such a "scrubby" tactic needs to get good...seriously if you are getting blown up that much that its an issue and like an insane person you keep doing the exact same crap that got you killed a dozen times before, take a look at your own skill level before you degrade others.... This^
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 40	Posted - 2014.07.04 18:25:00 - [58] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Zindorak wrote: No i want Jihaad jeeps to stay. Why? because its an effective AV tactic. Before you say use forge guns and Swarms. those are good but tankers just run away and spam their hardeners and that crap but if you use Jihaad Jeeps they can catch up and finish you off which is good So what you're saying is you're bad at AV. Right. Get good and then we can talk. Im not saying im bad im saying that tanks scrubs can just get away and heal up what are we supposed to do?


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