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Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3127	Posted - 2014.06.15 22:45:00 - [1] - Quote Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. Removed all hope with this post
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10631	Posted - 2014.06.15 22:49:00 - [2] - Quote I do. Its actually the central doctrine of our Corporation's Heavy Infantry. Commando's carry 100% State Wyrkomi's or Wyrkomi's for 80% and when one Commando drops the others win the fight and rez the downed soldier for an instant "get back in the fight soldier!" momment. Couple that with an HAV giving support....... no one sticks around long enough to return fire. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14537	Posted - 2014.06.15 22:52:00 - [3] - Quote I like it... Sometimes. Only if I'm not picked up under fire. Reviving is a dying art, though. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2763	Posted - 2014.06.15 22:55:00 - [4] - Quote I only like being revived if the reviver has Wiyrkomi needles.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 236	Posted - 2014.06.15 22:55:00 - [5] - Quote Or they could just make it so you have to ask for res, so the idiot in a starter suit stops running around doin the res and run dance. Lonewolf till I die
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 194	Posted - 2014.06.15 22:56:00 - [6] - Quote I care about my wallet far more than I care about my KDR. So if someone revives me, atleast i can limp to a supply depot and change suits. Even If I get killed a few times in the process, its still worth it if it saves me the cost of a fitting.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries 591	Posted - 2014.06.15 22:59:00 - [7] - Quote hi dubbs \ I do like getting rezzed when running my proto stuff + faction gear in FW but otherwise, in pubs, where I use bpos and advanced gear, I'm not as concerned about getting picked up but I do pay attention to if there's a needle nearby and my body is not in immediate danger of getting shot back down.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2559	Posted - 2014.06.15 23:04:00 - [8] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. If I'm going to die I'd prefer it to not be by 1 bullet.. I hate it. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Scheneighnay McBob The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5283	Posted - 2014.06.15 23:08:00 - [9] - Quote "deaths still count" What is this, CoD? KDR is pointless, and your deaths still count because somebody had to pick your dumb ass up. While it counts against YOU, it doesn't subtract from the clone count, and you don't lose your fitting until you permanently die. If someone revives me, that's great. However, it never happens because apparently people fit nanite injectors for the lols and never actually use them. péñpâ¦pé+pâìpââpâêpü«tÄïµºÿpüïpéÅpüäpüä pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9484	Posted - 2014.06.15 23:10:00 - [10] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. 95%? That margin is far too high to be probable. As for revives, I enjoy them. K/D doesn't matter, and there's a good chance that Iit'll help keep the clone count high. As for not being fully revived, Logistics would have an incentive to run higher tiered injectors if they wren't punished for doing so. Outside of PUBs however, all my teammates are guaranteed 100% armor upon revive. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAMD

Long Evity 1581	Posted - 2014.06.15 23:11:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. 95%? That margin is far too high to be probable. As for revives, I enjoy them. K/D doesn't matter, and there's a good chance that Iit'll help keep the clone count high. As for not being fully revived, Logistics would have an incentive to run higher tiered injectors if they wren't punished for doing so. Outside of PUBs however, all my teammates are guaranteed 100% armor upon revive. ^ This is the only guy in this entire game allowed to revive me. I play FW mostly - and I tend to kill logi's who revive me. Hopefully it pisses them off enough that they'll want to leave me dead on the floor. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10636	Posted - 2014.06.15 23:38:00 - [12] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Atiim wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. 95%? That margin is far too high to be probable. As for revives, I enjoy them. K/D doesn't matter, and there's a good chance that Iit'll help keep the clone count high. As for not being fully revived, Logistics would have an incentive to run higher tiered injectors if they wren't punished for doing so. Outside of PUBs however, all my teammates are guaranteed 100% armor upon revive. ^ This is the only guy in this entire game allowed to revive me. I play FW mostly - and I tend to kill logi's who revive me. Hopefully it pisses them off enough that they'll want to leave me dead on the floor. Isn't Atiim's promise a given for any half decent and organised squad with a desire to win? "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1641	Posted - 2014.06.15 23:53:00 - [13] - Quote I do. Even if I get killed right away. Sure not 5 times in a row, but I appreciate the effort. I just wish CCP would buff blueberry AI so they know to actually kill the people around a body before reviving it. Also making it so you have to ask to be revived before they can do it would help a lot.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3918	Posted - 2014.06.15 23:57:00 - [14] - Quote As long as I have ammo, I'll pop back up tossing grenades and giving the trigger holy hell just to try and get that 1 Kill that will turn the tide in my team's favor. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1983	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:05:00 - [15] - Quote I like it when I'm saved a suit. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Scheneighnay McBob The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5285	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:08:00 - [16] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: I do. Even if I get killed right away. Sure not 5 times in a row, but I appreciate the effort. I just wish CCP would buff blueberry AI so they know to actually kill the people around a body before reviving it. Also making it so you have to ask to be revived before they can do it would help a lot. I bet this is one of those games where bots would kick the average player's ass. Seen it happen in a few games. péñpâ¦pé+pâìpââpâêpü«tÄïµºÿpüïpéÅpüäpüä pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10636	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:12:00 - [17] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: I do. Even if I get killed right away. Sure not 5 times in a row, but I appreciate the effort. I just wish CCP would buff blueberry AI so they know to actually kill the people around a body before reviving it. Also making it so you have to ask to be revived before they can do it would help a lot. I bet this is one of those games where bots would kick the average player's ass. Seen it happen in a few games. I certainly hope PvE Content in Legion will be freaking hard and tactical. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3563	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:24:00 - [18] - Quote I quite like being rezzed; saves me up to 200k. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 4 (2 days left...)
Izlare Lenix Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo 696	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:24:00 - [19] - Quote Outside of PC I hate being revived. Especially by idiot blues that want to revive me 5m away from the hmg heavy that killed me. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2208	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:28:00 - [20] - Quote I will stick my needle in any body lying around. No time to rest, soldier. Get up and fight! You want to live forever? I'm a pretty Princess

Atiim NoGameNoLife 9487	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:28:00 - [21] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I bet this is one of those games where bots would kick the average player's ass. They already do. Have you ever fought a Large CA Railgun Installation? Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAMD
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1865	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:33:00 - [22] - Quote I do but only when I'm not going to get killed 0.2 seconds after I begin going through the animation. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10639	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:37:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I bet this is one of those games where bots would kick the average player's ass. They already do. Have you ever fought a Large CA Railgun Installation? Ugh those things...... I try so hard not to destroy every turret on the map so my team cannot complain, yet every time I need one active they have let the be captured...... this is why Tankers destroy all battlefield assets....infantry cannot be trusted with them. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 573	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:40:00 - [24] - Quote No. Never. Entered a FW where a heavy goof and his boyfriend from Noblesse.Oblige did a continuous kill-revive on me. Was forced to turn off the PS3 because of that BS. pâ¬péñpâòpâ½pü«tÄïpü½pü¬péïpÇé --pâ¬pâùpâ¬pâ+pâ¬péñpâ¬pâ+ `NyainChan Forever`
taxi bastard Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 120	Posted - 2014.06.16 01:18:00 - [25] - Quote tbh i play solo and mostly die alone away from blueberries which is lucky. i am not a K/D *** as some but realistically 80% of the time i get revived its unwanted. to break it down 50% of the time i am revived by dem rusty needles to be slaghtered again before i can do anything. great your so shite at the game its your only way of getting WP's. 20% of the time i am looking to relocate or change suit after my death either because i am far away from where i would like to be or i am in the wrong suit - no i do not want to run around all battle with 213EHP a CR with no uplinks or be so far away from the action its going to take me a while to get there. 10% of the time i am trying to die because i have no ammo ....then some ** brings me back. hello i was trying to mellee the heavy to get myself killed. 20% of the time - its seems i am not being picked up by a scrub who wants to get his +60 WP's in his free medic suit and is perfectly happy for both of us to die in order for him to get it. but by someone who actually has an idea of when to pick you up and actually makes sure you have life when they do it and if they are really loving they will even give you a nano hive to get more ammo with - bliss imo only if you ask for help should you be able to be revieved. there is a time and lace for everything.
Long Evity 1587	Posted - 2014.06.16 01:41:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Long Evity wrote: Atiim wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. 95%? That margin is far too high to be probable. As for revives, I enjoy them. K/D doesn't matter, and there's a good chance that Iit'll help keep the clone count high. As for not being fully revived, Logistics would have an incentive to run higher tiered injectors if they wren't punished for doing so. Outside of PUBs however, all my teammates are guaranteed 100% armor upon revive. ^ This is the only guy in this entire game allowed to revive me. I play FW mostly - and I tend to kill logi's who revive me. Hopefully it pisses them off enough that they'll want to leave me dead on the floor. Isn't Atiim's promise a given for any half decent and organised squad with a desire to win? It's not needed for the win, but with how Attim uses it you'd think people would incorporate needles more into PC games. He really is a beast with it. Reviving 1200 HP heavies is a pain for the other side - takes a good amount of your clip to bring us down again and by then - Atiim got to safety and is now getting ready to push with others. But, mostly, I do not trust most logis. There suit simply can't win confrontations to make accepting there revive safe. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10643	Posted - 2014.06.16 01:52:00 - [27] - Quote Long Evity wrote: True Adamance wrote: Long Evity wrote: Atiim wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. 95%? That margin is far too high to be probable. As for revives, I enjoy them. K/D doesn't matter, and there's a good chance that Iit'll help keep the clone count high. As for not being fully revived, Logistics would have an incentive to run higher tiered injectors if they wren't punished for doing so. Outside of PUBs however, all my teammates are guaranteed 100% armor upon revive. ^ This is the only guy in this entire game allowed to revive me. I play FW mostly - and I tend to kill logi's who revive me. Hopefully it pisses them off enough that they'll want to leave me dead on the floor. Isn't Atiim's promise a given for any half decent and organised squad with a desire to win? It's not needed for the win, but with how Attim uses it you'd think people would incorporate needles more into PC games. He really is a beast with it. Reviving 1200 HP heavies is a pain for the other side - takes a good amount of your clip to bring us down again and by then - Atiim got to safety and is now getting ready to push with others. But, mostly, I do not trust most logis. There suit simply can't win confrontations to make accepting there revive safe. Trust Amarrian Commando's. We logi better than most other Logi. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3129	Posted - 2014.06.16 04:35:00 - [28] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: tbh i play solo and mostly die alone away from blueberries which is lucky. i am not a K/D *** as some but realistically 80% of the time i get revived its unwanted. to break it down 50% of the time i am revived by dem rusty needles to be slaghtered again before i can do anything. great your so shite at the game its your only way of getting WP's. 20% of the time i am looking to relocate or change suit after my death either because i am far away from where i would like to be or i am in the wrong suit - no i do not want to run around all battle with 213EHP a CR with no uplinks or be so far away from the action its going to take me a while to get there. 10% of the time i am trying to die because i have no ammo ....then some ** brings me back. hello i was trying to mellee the heavy to get myself killed. 20% of the time - its seems i am not being picked up by a scrub who wants to get his +60 WP's in his free medic suit and is perfectly happy for both of us to die in order for him to get it. but by someone who actually has an idea of when to pick you up and actually makes sure you have life when they do it and if they are really loving they will even give you a nano hive to get more ammo with - bliss imo only if you ask for help should you be able to be revieved. there is a time and lace for everything. This is precisely what I see most of the time happening. It's amazing how many people enjoy dying in this game. So many times have I killed a guy around a spawn area only to have another red dot spawn in a "hot area" and run straight to pick the wounded up. Only for the wounded to get shot again and for the medic to lose his life as well. No sense in comparing the revive mechanic in other games because fools with just say, "go and play those games then". But reviving people in Dust is just worthless Removed all hope with this post
Charlotte O'Dell Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors 2476	Posted - 2014.06.16 05:23:00 - [29] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: "deaths still count" What is this, CoD? KDR is pointless, and your deaths still count because somebody had to pick your dumb ass up. While it counts against YOU, it doesn't subtract from the clone count, and you don't lose your fitting until you permanently die. If someone revives me, that's great. However, it never happens because apparently people fit nanite injectors for the lols and never actually use them. my feelings, exactly. Bunch of KDR whores... Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 317	Posted - 2014.06.16 05:32:00 - [30] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. how bout u get good and dont die in the first place? problem solved. peasant qq on forums. what a joke & justice for all

Long Evity 1591	Posted - 2014.06.16 06:00:00 - [31] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. how bout u get good and dont die in the first place? problem solved. peasant qq on forums. what a joke Compared to Dubbs, you're the peasant. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1346	Posted - 2014.06.16 13:53:00 - [32] - Quote Breakdown of revives: 20% - redberry standing over corpse waiting for blueberry to do the revive, redberry kills both revivee and reviver 20% - as above but redberry lets blueberry revive corpse multiple times for +50, +50, + 50 20% - no redberry waiting for the revive, but revivee spotted and instakilled by someone else due to the lengthy revive animation 20% - no instakill, but you now have almost no HP and probably no bullets in the clip so you die a few seconds later 20% - not killed but you now have low HP and ammo so have to waste a minute or two finding a supply depot or quiet corner to sit on a hive, instead of contributing to the team effort as you would be had you been allowed to respawn My suits cost 100,000-200,000isk so in theory I should be a prime beneficiary of nanite injectors. In practice I want that thing in my arm as much as I do a discarded needle in a public park.
Soldiersaint Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 845	Posted - 2014.06.16 15:57:00 - [33] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I only like being revived if the reviver has Wiyrkomi needles. those needles cost to much money. As a healer logi i refuse to use anything higher than standard until you are given the full reward for using a more costly needle.
Duke Noobiam S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 105	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:18:00 - [34] - Quote Picking people up is a bit of an art form. Here is the best way to do it. 1. Clear the red-berries of the area. 2. Switch to the repair tool. 3. Stab then instantly rep (with proto reps). How do you kill that which has no life?
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6073	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:45:00 - [35] - Quote Trust me, it's been talked about quite a bit between the candidates. Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Winst0n W0lf Her Majesty's S3cret S3rvice 38	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:47:00 - [36] - Quote Pubs: no. Rarely helpful as the blueberries use crap needles and I often need to switch suits as a logi myself. No benefit to getting revived in a suit that I've already dropped the equipment from! Elsewhere: Yes. I also rarely use anything but a wyrkomi, if I do it's a KIN-11 needle, backed up by a rep tool, and only in pubs. I solve problems. I'm also John Demonsbane.
Sergeant Sazu SINISTER DEATH SQUAD 46	Posted - 2014.06.16 17:25:00 - [37] - Quote I can remember each and every occasion I was revived by a KIN. Everything else was Militia. And that is why I have a Complex Armor Repairer on all of my suits. I laugh at those with Sergeant in their name. They never spell it right. [SDS CEO]
ANON Cerberus ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 836	Posted - 2014.06.16 18:42:00 - [38] - Quote I wouldn't ever deliberately revive anyone in the line of enemy fire without first killing the red dot (as if I dont then you dont get a revive do you :P) however sometimes there is no way to know a Sniper / RR / Forge / Tank has us locked in its sights and is waiting to open up. That being said, this is a game, I will try to pick up any fallen brethren that I see. + its good war points. By the way I think it is clear that the mechanics of how reviving works is more the pain in the arse here, at least more so than a medic trying to do his duty. I hate to say it, but BF4 got it somewhat sorted with their system.
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 19:41:00 - [39] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. i never hear anyone complain when i revive them...clearly you arent playing with good logis bro. also ide like to note that repper logis with injectors work best with other armor types. just the other day i dropped a 3sec uplink on the roof and jumped off to revive 2 heavies..they were so happy that they did this little dance on the end of my lai dai reper and took the objective objective i was bombarding with my assistance. there is a situation where it worked and there are many others..my needle is my most valuable tool on my amar logi. i can spawn the whole team ona point rep 2 people at once and reviv anyone who goes down..that is priceless. gotta love it when u bring up an amar assault scr with full armor and then turn em into a god with 70 hps. hell ive gotten like nine guardians off a recently revived soldier that i brought back and reppered while under fire sure you may die again but with a good logi you may not and at the very least you can take 4 or 5 of those mother ******* with you and give our team a few seconds time.. ive had my heavies get downed an out and the only thing that kept the objective was reviving a gal scout with a rr..who killed the peeps bombarding for 3 second straight..and bam the heavies and .team was back at out backs...i think he actually ran off to go re some people after that..his kill feed went on fora bit. at least for the amar logi..an injector can make all the difference in the world. my amar logi carries 1 link 1 repper 1 injector like a good battle medic
Tectonic Fusion 1696	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:18:00 - [40] - Quote I hate being revived while I try to change my fittings. Like I have said tons of times, you should get the old button that allowed you to be revived if you wanted to be.

Postillionen Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 2	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:34:00 - [41] - Quote As someone who has many characters and suits to choose from, I have been able to play a multitude of characters with the purpose of playing with a logistics. All but one have a nanite injector on them, save for this character as a sentinel. The rest of my team may share the general viewpoint that ad-hoc revives are likely bullshit every time, but with the amount of times i have been able to assist my support battlebuddy, i would never, ever want to play this game without it. I can barely even play a sentinel with her, though... Nobody wants to see their partner go down with no way to help. **** yes nanite injector. Long live Opus Arcana, among the ruins of our fallen ideals may lie our true purpose
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2211	Posted - 2014.06.16 21:45:00 - [42] - Quote I only use quality needles. I'm a pretty Princess
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 686	Posted - 2014.06.16 21:51:00 - [43] - Quote only when i ask for it. hate it when people revive for the sake of it.
Will Driver Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 77	Posted - 2014.06.16 21:59:00 - [44] - Quote When I run Logi and revive Clones, I often feel like I'm the only one doing it. When I go down, will there be someone there to revive me? Chances are "no." However, I will revive a friendly if I'm able to clear the hostile threat, or think I can revive and them rep him/her until we can get to cover. Reviving saves the team a clone and many times matches come down to clone count (obviously so in Ambush). So no one likes being revived and then 1-shot killed again, rinse and repeat, but if someone can safely revive me then please do so. I will do the same! GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥ GÇò Albert Einstein
Michael Arck 4696	Posted - 2014.06.17 00:11:00 - [45] - Quote It's terrible. I wanted the option to deny a revive. It's entirely frustrating and idiotic that a medic will dodge gunfire just to pick you up with a cheap needle only for you to die instantly which also fuels enemy momentum. I really can't stand that. I have watched a medic revive a victim of mines four times in a row without even looking or firing in my direction. He was going to do it a fifth time and I just killed him. I want that accept or deny revive option Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA 16	Posted - 2014.06.17 02:27:00 - [46] - Quote I run logi when I squad up and people are always asking for me to revive them. Granted, I carry a repair tool so I repair you as soon as I revive you so you are good to go back to good old fashion killing. Hell, I even carry a rep tool with a scout. I do however, agree that some people are idiots with the injectors and it should be taken away from there. People be responsible with your injectors and use them responsibly.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 448	Posted - 2014.06.17 02:54:00 - [47] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I hate being revived while I try to change my fittings. Like I have said tons of times, you should get the old button that allowed you to be revived if you wanted to be. This x1000. Just let me accept the revive, so I can assess whether it's a tactical viability. I know it's just pubs and kdr isn't the problem it's just annoying as all hell. As a logi I run no less than kin if I do run a needle and I rez and rep accordingly. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 777	Posted - 2014.06.17 03:06:00 - [48] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3135	Posted - 2014.06.18 13:35:00 - [49] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. Sounds like you've been playing against guys that can't shoot. Removed all hope with this post
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3135	Posted - 2014.06.18 13:39:00 - [50] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. how bout u get good and dont die in the first place? problem solved. peasant qq on forums. what a joke Aren't you a tanker? Removed all hope with this post

ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1302	Posted - 2014.06.18 13:47:00 - [51] - Quote Depends how clean the needle is. In all seriousness, I don't like to get revived because that's usually all someone will do. If I revive a person you will immediately have reps on you, I don't just walk away and leave you with 50% of your armor (I sacrifice on the needle for better equipment elsewhere). I will, however, revive you in the line of fire if I believe I can get you out of there alive. I take the risk that you will go down again (that's why I usually only revive Green Dots, because they know that they need to shoot), but that you can take them down with you. Usually, they get up and stay up, on occasion they go down again. I think I'm over Dust now...
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3136	Posted - 2014.06.18 13:57:00 - [52] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: I wouldn't ever deliberately revive anyone in the line of enemy fire without first killing the red dot (as if I dont then you dont get a revive do you :P) however sometimes there is no way to know a Sniper / RR / Forge / Tank has us locked in its sights and is waiting to open up. That being said, this is a game, I will try to pick up any fallen brethren that I see. + its good war points. By the way I think it is clear that the mechanics of how reviving works is more the pain in the arse here, at least more so than a medic trying to do his duty. I hate to say it, but BF4 got it somewhat sorted with their system. And see that's the thing.....if you spawn or run into an area and see a downed teammate, what do you do? He could be a blue and not have comms and thus, not able to tell you if its safe. Sometimes, you are killing people in an area and the red logi doesn't notice you. You end up killing the guy all over and the logi. Sometimes, you are looking for a safe place to respawn or change suits and then you get rezzed and instakilled again. In BF4, the medic risks his life because he has to be right on you (just like in dust). But you are given the option to decline the rez. There is no penalty for being rezzed in BF, so it doesn't matter. In MAG, you were rezzed with full health and no animation...plus the medic can rez you at a safe distance so it was cool. Plus, in MAG, it made sense to want to get rezzed since there was no objective spawn, or beacon or teammate spawning like in dust or bf Removed all hope with this post
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3136	Posted - 2014.06.18 14:01:00 - [53] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Depends how clean the needle is. In all seriousness, I don't like to get revived because that's usually all someone will do. If I revive a person you will immediately have reps on you, I don't just walk away and leave you with 50% of your armor (I sacrifice on the needle for better equipment elsewhere). I will, however, revive you in the line of fire if I believe I can get you out of there alive. I take the risk that you will go down again (that's why I usually only revive Green Dots, because they know that they need to shoot), but that you can take them down with you. Usually, they get up and stay up, on occasion they go down again. You can always tell who is about to get rezzed....so if there is a firefight, I always concentrate on the guy getting rezzed. And it is rare that he stays up. A Gallente Heavy that's being repped may be the ideal for being able to stay alive. But if there are others around me, chances are that I'm not the only one concentrating on a rezzed red dot. Removed all hope with this post
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 322	Posted - 2014.06.18 14:45:00 - [54] - Quote DON'T REZ ME!!!
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 175	Posted - 2014.06.18 14:55:00 - [55] - Quote I'm rezzing all you b1tches
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Proficiency V. 854	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:46:00 - [56] - Quote I have my moments when I think I clear the area and it turns out a sniper was around and that guy wasn't on coms. I've rezzed people in the clear who just went afk. I've had people yell at me over coms to come get their precious proto suit even though there are 5 redberries around them. I've had to sadly leave some teammates in the dust because it was more worhwhile to the team as a whole to keep repping those I had to keep pressure on the objective. I've gone down plenty of times and never had a blueberry there to back me up. I've had blueberries pick me up when I really was done with the suit and wanted to come back in with a new one as there were no supply depots. I've had blueberries pick me up in front of redberries because an icon appeared on the screen and sometimes they're dicks, other times they're just desperate to do anything in this game worthwhile and get some precious wp just to make it to the next damn skill so they can be useful eventually. I've also felt guilty looking for the downed merc to find him on a rooftop somewhere I couldn't get to in time. It's not that I don't want to save you and not that I'm actively ignoring you. Yelling into coms that I'm all of 3m away from you is not helpful if you're 50ft above my head. All this shaming isn't useful to new players and won't stop them from doing it to you. This is a role that simply takes education so instead of telling players to stop reviving period, just direct them in the ways they can be better. Reviving has plenty of uses in this game and I've seen it win games before in both clones and teams who thought those 3 greenberries of mine they killed couldn't possibly come back to bit them in the ass. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3137	Posted - 2014.06.18 18:49:00 - [57] - Quote Yeah, my eduating them will consist of me telling them not to use it. If you want to be useful and can't kill worth ****, place uplinks and nanohives down. Or, run behind the crowd and rep people. Removed all hope with this post
Boomer Dues Mortis Shining Flame Amarr Empire 218	Posted - 2014.06.18 19:18:00 - [58] - Quote CCP should just make it not count as a death, I mean honestly you don't even die you are there bleeding out still clutching to life.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Proficiency V. 855	Posted - 2014.06.18 19:29:00 - [59] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Yeah, my eduating them will consist of me telling them not to use it. If you want to be useful and can't kill worth ****, place uplinks and nanohives down. Or, run behind the crowd and rep people. Now I know who to stab repeatedly Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1492	Posted - 2014.06.18 19:30:00 - [60] - Quote Boomer Dues Mortis wrote: CCP should just make it not count as a death, I mean honestly you don't even die you are there bleeding out still clutching to life. Boomer? Where the F have you been? Coming back? Outer.Heaven calls dibs on this guy BTW. Just saying... PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor

Skullmiser Vulcansu 119	Posted - 2014.06.18 19:46:00 - [61] - Quote I would prefer it if nanite injectors did not exist. If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3137	Posted - 2014.06.18 20:34:00 - [62] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Yeah, my eduating them will consist of me telling them not to use it. If you want to be useful and can't kill worth ****, place uplinks and nanohives down. Or, run behind the crowd and rep people. Now I know who to stab repeatedly Good luck with that Removed all hope with this post
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 31	Posted - 2014.06.18 20:50:00 - [63] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I like it... Sometimes. Only if I'm not picked up under fire. Reviving is a dying art, though. If CCP put the 'bleedout' option for when we go down, I'D LOVE IT!!! I hate getting rezzed when it's in the middle of a hot zone... Hell I can remember a former corpie that rezzed me 4 times after going straight down just to make fun of me because there was no 'bleedout' option... All in all, getting rezzed in my opinion sucks. 90% of the time I'll get rezzed in the middle of a fire fight when I want to switch out suits or respawn.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation 574	Posted - 2014.06.18 21:23:00 - [64] - Quote To all the people crying because "only 30-50% armor 1!1!!111!" I would like to say. IF DIDN'T RUN THE ** AWAY I WOULD HAVE REPAIRED YOU ASS. Do you really expect logis, the most expensive suit in game when fully fitted and 2nd squishier suits after the scout to ALWAYS carry proto injectors? When half the time we are the only idiots on the team that actually revive people? "You should always use proto because i don't want another death / can't wait 0.5 seconds for you to repair me" Start helping the yellow guys around you, carry your own ***** needle and maybe i'll start using proto needles in pub matches.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 87	Posted - 2014.06.18 21:59:00 - [65] - Quote I like to be revived when im in an expensive suit and it's safe .... not when people are still shooting at the position I died at. other than that, if im in one of my cheap suits and I've deployed my equipment and used up 1/2 my ammo, let me die and respawn.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10774	Posted - 2014.06.18 22:00:00 - [66] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: To all the people crying because "only 30-50% armor 1!1!!111!" I would like to say. IF DIDN'T RUN THE ** AWAY I WOULD HAVE REPAIRED YOU ASS. Do you really expect logis, the most expensive suit in game when fully fitted and 2nd squishier suits after the scout to ALWAYS carry proto injectors? When half the time we are the only idiots on the team that actually revive people? "You should always use proto because i don't want another death / can't wait 0.5 seconds for you to repair me" Start helping the yellow guys around you, carry your own ***** needle and maybe i'll start using proto needles in pub matches. I'm not even a Logi and I'll still bring Proto Rep Tools........ "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Boomer Dues Mortis Shining Flame Amarr Empire 220	Posted - 2014.06.19 01:37:00 - [67] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Boomer Dues Mortis wrote: CCP should just make it not count as a death, I mean honestly you don't even die you are there bleeding out still clutching to life. Boomer? Where the F have you been? Coming back? Outer.Heaven calls dibs on this guy BTW. Just saying... I just go on these forums every once in awhile why I try to kill time. There is no way I am coming back to Dust anytime soon. I have always enjoyed the game but I do not trust CCP, they have made too many awful choices lately and the crap they pulled at fanfest will not be easily forgotten. I will not play a game that the developers lured people into travling and spending large amounts of money only to tell them that basically most of the support for Dust is gone and now it will be on Legion which has not even received the greenlight yet. My time is better spent raiding on FF14 with Doc and Zero, until Destiny comes out.
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1553	Posted - 2014.06.19 16:41:00 - [68] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I hate being revived while I try to change my fittings. Like I have said tons of times, you should get the old button that allowed you to be revived if you wanted to be. i agree a reject button should be implemented..also it should always prioritize high lvl injectors if you have a nubs mlt nanites flooding through your system and i needle you with my god nanites at the same time my god nanites should win and revive you with 100% hp
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 366	Posted - 2014.06.19 16:46:00 - [69] - Quote Stop the WP farm scheme! Stop the revive! Saying what's on people's minds
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1553	Posted - 2014.06.19 16:48:00 - [70] - Quote Luna McDuffing wrote: I run logi when I squad up and people are always asking for me to revive them. Granted, I carry a repair tool so I repair you as soon as I revive you so you are good to go back to good old fashion killing. Hell, I even carry a rep tool with a scout. I do however, agree that some people are idiots with the injectors and it should be taken away from there. People be responsible with your injectors and use them responsibly. i use 50% revives or higher and always repp upon revive and i will revive a heavy in fire or a heavily tanked armor type if they die near my proto especially if i note they're skill. 100% revives meet lai dai repper...and if a squad mate says ima just respawn they will find a 3 sec uplink right next to me and the rest of the squad i know for a fact that if i revive one of my mates in there good suit they will survive i dont play with chumps that cant use full armor and 70hps to get behind cover..also because they are not chumps they rarely die out in the open

Michael Arck 4735	Posted - 2014.06.19 16:57:00 - [71] - Quote Remove the revive option. I believe I will start campaigning for this. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 779	Posted - 2014.06.19 22:48:00 - [72] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. Sounds like you've been playing against guys that can't shoot. Maybe you should spend some time training your corp mates, cus a couple of those matches were against RND I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3138	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:22:00 - [73] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. Sounds like you've been playing against guys that can't shoot. Maybe you should spend some time training your corp mates, cus a couple of those matches were against RND Lulz...what are you saying? Are you trying to compare corps? Removed all hope with this post
castba Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 488	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:51:00 - [74] - Quote Hmm, I wonder what dust would be like without a kdr stat. Can you imagine players yelling at the screen to actually get revived so they can rejoin the fight?
calvin b SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1640	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:55:00 - [75] - Quote when I logi I carry only the best 80% revive and then I rep you to full health with my lvl 4 rep tool then I lay a hive down so you can refill your ammo. If I die pick me up only if there is no reds in the area. Nothing is worse than being revived only to be killed before you can do anything A heavy before 1.8
Michael Arck 4743	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:56:00 - [76] - Quote I know many people who are sick of being revived who don't care at all about the KDR stat and will quickly tell you this game isn't about KDR. But the fact that people are being revived in the most stupidest situations is more than enough reason to have this thing changed. This thread should be at the top of GD, daily. We need CCP to do something about this crap. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3139	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:58:00 - [77] - Quote castba wrote: Hmm, I wonder what dust would be like without a kdr stat. Can you imagine players yelling at the screen to actually get revived so they can rejoin the fight? MAG had KDR stats and leaderboards...and I always wanted to get rezzed. Rezzing in dust is pointless. Most of the time, you will be instakilled. Removed all hope with this post
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3139	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:00:00 - [78] - Quote calvin b wrote: when I logi I carry only the best 80% revive and then I rep you to full health with my lvl 4 rep tool then I lay a hive down so you can refill your ammo. If I die pick me up only if there is no reds in the area. Nothing is worse than being revived only to be killed before you can do anything What about if we only have about 150hp and less armor though? If it isn't full health with no revive animation, it's worthless. Removed all hope with this post
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 3881	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:05:00 - [79] - Quote I'm going to skip reading all the posts on the previous page and say this F - U if you pick me up to farm points in the midst of a firefight, with a MLT injector. I LUV U if you pick me up when the fighting is over and with a Wyrkomi or better yet State Injector Only once have I been picked up by a Wyrkomi in a pub, ONCE. In CHROMOSOME I'm not resting in peace but rather wandering as a zombie in vengeance of no good reason
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10869	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:07:00 - [80] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: castba wrote: Hmm, I wonder what dust would be like without a kdr stat. Can you imagine players yelling at the screen to actually get revived so they can rejoin the fight? MAG had KDR stats and leaderboards...and I always wanted to get rezzed. Rezzing in dust is pointless. Most of the time, you will be instakilled. Doesn't matter if you clone just goes into a downed status again. As long as your team wins any sacrifice is worth it...... except Tanks....... those aren't primarily because I am **** poor. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III

Michael Arck 4749	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:10:00 - [81] - Quote No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it? Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10869	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:16:00 - [82] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it? Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. It is worth it. If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter. We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done. My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3139	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:25:00 - [83] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it? Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. It is worth it. If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter. We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done. My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith. I have yet to receive a check from our eve "employers". Even still, it isn't worth it, if a medic wastes time to prorez you and get himself killed in the process. That is time wasted, cause you could have respawned somewhere else or the logi could have been repping other people and keeping them alive. Removed all hope with this post
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10871	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:29:00 - [84] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: True Adamance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it? Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. It is worth it. If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter. We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done. My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith. I have yet to receive a check from our eve "employers". Even still, it isn't worth it, if a medic wastes time to prorez you and get himself killed in the process. That is time wasted, cause you could have respawned somewhere else or the logi could have been repping other people and keeping them alive. Instantly accept clone loss by attrition or delay clone loss by attrition....... why would you just roll over and accept it? " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1402	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:32:00 - [85] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it? Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. I really wonder who you are playing with. Idiots like you describe happen to me once every other game session of sometimes several hours. And even then. Don't blame the needle, blame the incompetent wielder. That and advocate for proper WP scaling across the needles so that players actually have a reason to use better ones. This will also help you in the long run. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Michael Arck 4752	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:33:00 - [86] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it? Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. It is worth it. If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter. We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done. My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith. Oh god man, not you True with the KDR reply. You know, its really not about that. And when I say that, I do mean that. It has nothing to do with KDR. It's why I don't get mad at someone ramming me in a DS. You know why? Cause it was smart. They took the available means they had to take me out and used it against me. I applaud that. But I'm not a fan of stupidity. Never been. So when I see someone breaking their neck with the sole thought of reviving a merc and they done nothing to clear out hostiles, the enemy is still firing upon their location, and they don't have reps to get that man to full armor health-I instantly think its stupid. I applaud intelligent choices on the battlefield. I despise stupid ones. Reviving people in the middle of gunfire is just plain stupid. Nothing to do with KDR. Nope. Just the fact its plain stupid. I don't want to be revived in gunfire. Why? Cause I can't do anything about it! I just got shot again and I die. So it would have been better to leave me be and let me die. Then let me spawn in. And if I die, its by my own hands again. There's really nothing that anybody can say that would make me look at this falsely. It's stupid to revive people in gunfire and I want it changed. If I had power to deny a person such, I would use it. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10871	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:37:00 - [87] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: True Adamance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it? Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. It is worth it. If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter. We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done. My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith. Oh god man, not you True with the KDR reply. You know, its really not about that. And when I say that, I do mean that. It has nothing to do with KDR. It's why I don't get mad at someone ramming me in a DS. You know why? Cause it was smart. They took the available means they had to take me out and used it against me. I applaud that. But I'm not a fan of stupidity. Never been. So when I see someone breaking their neck with the sole thought of reviving a merc and they done nothing to clear out hostiles, the enemy is still firing upon their location, and they don't have reps to get that man to full armor health-I instantly think its stupid. I applaud intelligent choices on the battlefield. I despise stupid ones. Reviving people in the middle of gunfire is just plain stupid. Nothing to do with KDR. Nope. Just the fact its plain stupid. I don't want to be revived in gunfire. Why? Cause I can't do anything about it! I just got shot again and I die. So it would have been better to leave me be and let me die. Then let me spawn in. And if I die, its by my own hands again. There's really nothing that anybody can say that would make me look at this falsely. It's stupid to revive people in gunfire and I want it changed. If I had power to deny a person such, I would use it. Meh I trust Aero to have my back in most fights, he knows being picked up to die instantly pisses me off, it doesn't stop him through, in the end if I don't lose my 200K Isk suit and he rezes me back into a fighting role instead of having to redeploy I'm happy. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Michael Arck 4752	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:39:00 - [88] - Quote LOL but we're not talking about you and Aero! LOL! Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10875	Posted - 2014.06.20 01:53:00 - [89] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: LOL but we're not talking about you and Aero! LOL! But we Revive and get Revived on a basis....were the perfect sample group to draw conclusive evidence from..... " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 779	Posted - 2014.06.25 00:03:00 - [90] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. Sounds like you've been playing against guys that can't shoot. Maybe you should spend some time training your corp mates, cus a couple of those matches were against RND Lulz...what are you saying? Why do players like yourself talk trash lol? I wasnt trying to talk trash. Any half way decent logi, who doesnt revive in the middle of fire, should be able to get you up, repped, and resupplied faster than you respawning. If your logi's arent doing that, you need better logis. You came at me with the "you can only do it because your opponent sux" theory. I do this **** in PC all the time. Do I have teammates who tell me not to bring a needle? Of course I do. They are just like you, precious KDR whoers, with boatloads of isk, who would rather take a suit loss than take one for the team again. But the fact is, its 9/10 better for the team for you to be right there ready to charge when the time is right rather than you showing up 20 seconds later to pop the guy counterhacking the point after the firefight is over. Get over yourself. Do I think there should be a no revive button? Yes. I hate trying to change a suit and get revived just to die 3 seconds later as much as everyone else. But to say no one should be reviving mercs in competitive play is a bit ridiculous. I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3162	Posted - 2014.06.25 00:15:00 - [91] - Quote I have seen links, rep tools make a difference in a game..never needles except for a adding to wps. If i was a kdr *****, my playstyle would be different. I'm extremely aggressive and objective minded. How many times out of 10 is it safe to rez someone...the revive mechanic in dust makes it not worth it Removed all hope with this post
MINA Longstrike 916	Posted - 2014.06.25 00:19:00 - [92] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Outside of PC I hate being revived. Especially by idiot blues that want to revive me 5m away from the hmg heavy that killed me. Honestly, there are times that I do that just to refresh the timer on you - if you were at 5 seconds and you get killed again you're back at 30 seconds and it gives me a chance to kill people around your body and then pick you up again. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3162	Posted - 2014.06.25 00:24:00 - [93] - Quote Other day i killed a guy 4x cause his blue kept rezzing him. Removed all hope with this post
Thurak1 Psygod9 784	Posted - 2014.06.25 01:06:00 - [94] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. If the person reviving is smart about it then its a great cost saver. However there are a lot of people reviving before even checking the area.
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 398	Posted - 2014.06.25 01:10:00 - [95] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I only like being revived if the reviver has Wiyrkomi needles. Yeah. This, or if you are revived by a mil needle, that logi better have a decent rep tool to get me back to full strength quickly, otherwise it's pointless. Might as well left me for dead. Dust 514... another leaf on the wind. PSN ID: B16D4mnHer0
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 780	Posted - 2014.06.25 02:10:00 - [96] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I have seen links, rep tools make a difference in a game..never needles except for a adding to wps. If i was a kdr *****, my playstyle would be different. I'm extremely aggressive and objective minded. How many times out of 10 is it safe to rez someone...the revive mechanic in dust makes it not worth it See this makes no sense to me. I am also extremely aggressive and objective-minded. And to me a revive can make way more difference than a link. The only advantage to a link is spawning out of danger, away from the objective. If you spawn in close to the objective, you still have to catch your bearings of where you are. When revived, you already know exactly where you are, and which direction the enemies are/were. There are uses for each if you know how to use them properly. Btw I get way more points from links than revives, but I also dont farm people with a needle.. I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 14	Posted - 2014.06.25 02:18:00 - [97] - Quote You guys make me laugh. How many of you run a proto needle and rep someone after picking them up? When I get picked up it's by someone with a mlt needle farming WP and they don't even rep you either. Very few people actually support you after picking you up..but yeah if you have a proto needle or proto reps then by all means pick me up but don't do it just to farm WP, do your role correctly.
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 37	Posted - 2014.06.25 02:36:00 - [98] - Quote I run ADV needle and rep when I pick people up, but I work within a squad, and generally only pick them up under fire (unless the person is spamming the help button); otherwise I try to suppress the enemy enough to pick allies up or leave them alone if that endeavor is pointless...the exception is in Skirmish when defending a point, when a few more precious seconds on either offence or defense is all you need (Sorry about your K/D bro...still wish it didn't count deaths until termination)
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 15	Posted - 2014.06.25 02:46:00 - [99] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: I run ADV needle and rep when I pick people up, but I work within a squad, and generally only pick them up under fire (unless the person is spamming the help button); otherwise I try to suppress the enemy enough to pick allies up or leave them alone if that endeavor is pointless...the exception is in Skirmish when defending a point, when a few more precious seconds on either offence or defense is all you need (Sorry about your K/D bro...still wish it didn't count deaths until termination) As long as you're actually trying and not just farming WP then I'm fine with being picked up even if I die again. I only dislike it when I'm picked up by a WP logi and not a true logi.
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 398	Posted - 2014.06.25 03:02:00 - [100] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I have seen links, rep tools make a difference in a game..never needles except for a adding to wps. If i was a kdr ****, my playstyle would be different. I'm extremely aggressive and objective minded. How many times out of 10 is it safe to rez someone...the revive mechanic in dust makes it not worth it See this makes no sense to me. I am also extremely aggressive and objective-minded. And to me a revive can make way more difference than a link. The only advantage to a link is spawning out of danger, away from the objective. If you spawn in close to the objective, you still have to catch your bearings of where you are. When revived, you already know exactly where you are, and which direction the enemies are/were. There are uses for each if you know how to use them properly. Btw I get way more points from links than revives, but I also dont farm people with a needle.. Yes to all of this. I run Min logi, with a KIN-012 and a Core Rep tool. After the engagement is over, you pick people up, and rep them as quick as you can. They already have their bearings, which is more advantageous than an uplink, which is likely hidden or out of the way somewhere, and might be camped. Throw down a hive, and everybody is back on their feet and good to go. I try to never revive if the engagement is still going on, that's always a mistake, and I see it happening constantly -- some scout running out in the middle of bullets flying to rez somebody, which is just plain wrong. It gets you killed, cause you are immobile when rezzing, and your squadmate killed again, cause he's got no health to survive. I constantly put down enemy logis this way, in fact I look for it -- 2 easy kills. The biggest part of being a good logi is knowing when to rep, and when you should be firing. My general rule is, rep until your guys are about 1/4 health, then start shooting. More often than not, you can finish what your squadmates started -- then you go back to doing your three R's. 90% of my logi injector fits have a rep tool also, which is the only way to play it if you want to actually help your squad, in my book. Dust 514... another leaf on the wind.* PSN ID: B16D4mnHer0

Sergeant Sazu SINISTER DEATH SQUAD 47	Posted - 2014.06.25 11:58:00 - [101] - Quote If everyone is concerned about being revived at 30% armor, maybe people should try stacking Repairers instead of Plates. It's actually pretty fun. As a logi, I've become a pretty good judge of when to shoot or revive. Sometimes I revive while the enemy is still around, and I lock the repair tool as soon as my ally gets back into a fight with said enemy. As long as my ally jumps around to dodge bullets and get more reps than damage for a second, he usually wins. If not, I finish the fight and pick him up again. Though I would like to know who's near me while I'm downed. I'd like to be able to tell the difference between the starter fits that will revive me in front of enemies and the smart dudes with Repair Tools. I laugh at those with Sergeant in their name. They never spell it right. [SDS CEO]
Foo Fighting THE HANDS OF DEATH 78	Posted - 2014.06.25 14:31:00 - [102] - Quote Respawn immediately then abort deployment - no revs.
H0riz0n Unlimit Nexus Balusa Horizon 60	Posted - 2014.06.25 15:24:00 - [103] - Quote I love to revive idiots dying while dropping by mcc Appena rilogghi ti metto quei cingoli come apparecchio per i denti. Cit.Von Shulz
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3164	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:33:00 - [104] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I have seen links, rep tools make a difference in a game..never needles except for a adding to wps. If i was a kdr ****, my playstyle would be different. I'm extremely aggressive and objective minded. How many times out of 10 is it safe to rez someone...the revive mechanic in dust makes it not worth it See this makes no sense to me. I am also extremely aggressive and objective-minded. And to me a revive can make way more difference than a link. The only advantage to a link is spawning out of danger, away from the objective. If you spawn in close to the objective, you still have to catch your bearings of where you are. When revived, you already know exactly where you are, and which direction the enemies are/were. There are uses for each if you know how to use them properly. Btw I get way more points from links than revives, but I also dont farm people with a needle.. What you just said, actually doesn't make much sense. I'll give you a homework assigment....ask any successful* pc corp vet, if they had to choose for their logi to carry a nanite injector or an uplink...which would they mandate? I believe they would probably require them to have nanohives over injectors. Remember they must be a leader of a successful pc corp, past or present. Because I'im sure there are clueless leaders who would instruct their logis to use a nanite injector if it came down to a decision of the two. And don't say that you acknowledge that uplinks are important because I'm not doubting that you feel they are important. But you said that you feel that "a revive can make way more difference than a link". That implies that you feel that nanite injectors are more important and for me, they are the least useful piece of equipment in this game (that I can think of) Removed all hope with this post


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