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Long Evity 1591	Posted - 2014.06.16 06:00:00 - [31] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. how bout u get good and dont die in the first place? problem solved. peasant qq on forums. what a joke Compared to Dubbs, you're the peasant. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1346	Posted - 2014.06.16 13:53:00 - [32] - Quote Breakdown of revives: 20% - redberry standing over corpse waiting for blueberry to do the revive, redberry kills both revivee and reviver 20% - as above but redberry lets blueberry revive corpse multiple times for +50, +50, + 50 20% - no redberry waiting for the revive, but revivee spotted and instakilled by someone else due to the lengthy revive animation 20% - no instakill, but you now have almost no HP and probably no bullets in the clip so you die a few seconds later 20% - not killed but you now have low HP and ammo so have to waste a minute or two finding a supply depot or quiet corner to sit on a hive, instead of contributing to the team effort as you would be had you been allowed to respawn My suits cost 100,000-200,000isk so in theory I should be a prime beneficiary of nanite injectors. In practice I want that thing in my arm as much as I do a discarded needle in a public park.
Soldiersaint Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 845	Posted - 2014.06.16 15:57:00 - [33] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I only like being revived if the reviver has Wiyrkomi needles. those needles cost to much money. As a healer logi i refuse to use anything higher than standard until you are given the full reward for using a more costly needle.
Duke Noobiam S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 105	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:18:00 - [34] - Quote Picking people up is a bit of an art form. Here is the best way to do it. 1. Clear the red-berries of the area. 2. Switch to the repair tool. 3. Stab then instantly rep (with proto reps). How do you kill that which has no life?
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6073	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:45:00 - [35] - Quote Trust me, it's been talked about quite a bit between the candidates. Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Winst0n W0lf Her Majesty's S3cret S3rvice 38	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:47:00 - [36] - Quote Pubs: no. Rarely helpful as the blueberries use crap needles and I often need to switch suits as a logi myself. No benefit to getting revived in a suit that I've already dropped the equipment from! Elsewhere: Yes. I also rarely use anything but a wyrkomi, if I do it's a KIN-11 needle, backed up by a rep tool, and only in pubs. I solve problems. I'm also John Demonsbane.
Sergeant Sazu SINISTER DEATH SQUAD 46	Posted - 2014.06.16 17:25:00 - [37] - Quote I can remember each and every occasion I was revived by a KIN. Everything else was Militia. And that is why I have a Complex Armor Repairer on all of my suits. I laugh at those with Sergeant in their name. They never spell it right. [SDS CEO]
ANON Cerberus ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 836	Posted - 2014.06.16 18:42:00 - [38] - Quote I wouldn't ever deliberately revive anyone in the line of enemy fire without first killing the red dot (as if I dont then you dont get a revive do you :P) however sometimes there is no way to know a Sniper / RR / Forge / Tank has us locked in its sights and is waiting to open up. That being said, this is a game, I will try to pick up any fallen brethren that I see. + its good war points. By the way I think it is clear that the mechanics of how reviving works is more the pain in the arse here, at least more so than a medic trying to do his duty. I hate to say it, but BF4 got it somewhat sorted with their system.
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1540	Posted - 2014.06.16 19:41:00 - [39] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. i never hear anyone complain when i revive them...clearly you arent playing with good logis bro. also ide like to note that repper logis with injectors work best with other armor types. just the other day i dropped a 3sec uplink on the roof and jumped off to revive 2 heavies..they were so happy that they did this little dance on the end of my lai dai reper and took the objective objective i was bombarding with my assistance. there is a situation where it worked and there are many others..my needle is my most valuable tool on my amar logi. i can spawn the whole team ona point rep 2 people at once and reviv anyone who goes down..that is priceless. gotta love it when u bring up an amar assault scr with full armor and then turn em into a god with 70 hps. hell ive gotten like nine guardians off a recently revived soldier that i brought back and reppered while under fire sure you may die again but with a good logi you may not and at the very least you can take 4 or 5 of those mother ******* with you and give our team a few seconds time.. ive had my heavies get downed an out and the only thing that kept the objective was reviving a gal scout with a rr..who killed the peeps bombarding for 3 second straight..and bam the heavies and .team was back at out backs...i think he actually ran off to go re some people after that..his kill feed went on fora bit. at least for the amar logi..an injector can make all the difference in the world. my amar logi carries 1 link 1 repper 1 injector like a good battle medic
Tectonic Fusion 1696	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:18:00 - [40] - Quote I hate being revived while I try to change my fittings. Like I have said tons of times, you should get the old button that allowed you to be revived if you wanted to be.

Postillionen Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 2	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:34:00 - [41] - Quote As someone who has many characters and suits to choose from, I have been able to play a multitude of characters with the purpose of playing with a logistics. All but one have a nanite injector on them, save for this character as a sentinel. The rest of my team may share the general viewpoint that ad-hoc revives are likely bullshit every time, but with the amount of times i have been able to assist my support battlebuddy, i would never, ever want to play this game without it. I can barely even play a sentinel with her, though... Nobody wants to see their partner go down with no way to help. **** yes nanite injector. Long live Opus Arcana, among the ruins of our fallen ideals may lie our true purpose
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2211	Posted - 2014.06.16 21:45:00 - [42] - Quote I only use quality needles. I'm a pretty Princess
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 686	Posted - 2014.06.16 21:51:00 - [43] - Quote only when i ask for it. hate it when people revive for the sake of it.
Will Driver Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 77	Posted - 2014.06.16 21:59:00 - [44] - Quote When I run Logi and revive Clones, I often feel like I'm the only one doing it. When I go down, will there be someone there to revive me? Chances are "no." However, I will revive a friendly if I'm able to clear the hostile threat, or think I can revive and them rep him/her until we can get to cover. Reviving saves the team a clone and many times matches come down to clone count (obviously so in Ambush). So no one likes being revived and then 1-shot killed again, rinse and repeat, but if someone can safely revive me then please do so. I will do the same! GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥ GÇò Albert Einstein
Michael Arck 4696	Posted - 2014.06.17 00:11:00 - [45] - Quote It's terrible. I wanted the option to deny a revive. It's entirely frustrating and idiotic that a medic will dodge gunfire just to pick you up with a cheap needle only for you to die instantly which also fuels enemy momentum. I really can't stand that. I have watched a medic revive a victim of mines four times in a row without even looking or firing in my direction. He was going to do it a fifth time and I just killed him. I want that accept or deny revive option Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA 16	Posted - 2014.06.17 02:27:00 - [46] - Quote I run logi when I squad up and people are always asking for me to revive them. Granted, I carry a repair tool so I repair you as soon as I revive you so you are good to go back to good old fashion killing. Hell, I even carry a rep tool with a scout. I do however, agree that some people are idiots with the injectors and it should be taken away from there. People be responsible with your injectors and use them responsibly.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 448	Posted - 2014.06.17 02:54:00 - [47] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I hate being revived while I try to change my fittings. Like I have said tons of times, you should get the old button that allowed you to be revived if you wanted to be. This x1000. Just let me accept the revive, so I can assess whether it's a tactical viability. I know it's just pubs and kdr isn't the problem it's just annoying as all hell. As a logi I run no less than kin if I do run a needle and I rez and rep accordingly. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 777	Posted - 2014.06.17 03:06:00 - [48] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3135	Posted - 2014.06.18 13:35:00 - [49] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. Sounds like you've been playing against guys that can't shoot. Removed all hope with this post
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3135	Posted - 2014.06.18 13:39:00 - [50] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Reviving in this game is pointless. Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. how bout u get good and dont die in the first place? problem solved. peasant qq on forums. what a joke Aren't you a tanker? Removed all hope with this post

ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1302	Posted - 2014.06.18 13:47:00 - [51] - Quote Depends how clean the needle is. In all seriousness, I don't like to get revived because that's usually all someone will do. If I revive a person you will immediately have reps on you, I don't just walk away and leave you with 50% of your armor (I sacrifice on the needle for better equipment elsewhere). I will, however, revive you in the line of fire if I believe I can get you out of there alive. I take the risk that you will go down again (that's why I usually only revive Green Dots, because they know that they need to shoot), but that you can take them down with you. Usually, they get up and stay up, on occasion they go down again. I think I'm over Dust now...
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3136	Posted - 2014.06.18 13:57:00 - [52] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: I wouldn't ever deliberately revive anyone in the line of enemy fire without first killing the red dot (as if I dont then you dont get a revive do you :P) however sometimes there is no way to know a Sniper / RR / Forge / Tank has us locked in its sights and is waiting to open up. That being said, this is a game, I will try to pick up any fallen brethren that I see. + its good war points. By the way I think it is clear that the mechanics of how reviving works is more the pain in the arse here, at least more so than a medic trying to do his duty. I hate to say it, but BF4 got it somewhat sorted with their system. And see that's the thing.....if you spawn or run into an area and see a downed teammate, what do you do? He could be a blue and not have comms and thus, not able to tell you if its safe. Sometimes, you are killing people in an area and the red logi doesn't notice you. You end up killing the guy all over and the logi. Sometimes, you are looking for a safe place to respawn or change suits and then you get rezzed and instakilled again. In BF4, the medic risks his life because he has to be right on you (just like in dust). But you are given the option to decline the rez. There is no penalty for being rezzed in BF, so it doesn't matter. In MAG, you were rezzed with full health and no animation...plus the medic can rez you at a safe distance so it was cool. Plus, in MAG, it made sense to want to get rezzed since there was no objective spawn, or beacon or teammate spawning like in dust or bf Removed all hope with this post
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3136	Posted - 2014.06.18 14:01:00 - [53] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Depends how clean the needle is. In all seriousness, I don't like to get revived because that's usually all someone will do. If I revive a person you will immediately have reps on you, I don't just walk away and leave you with 50% of your armor (I sacrifice on the needle for better equipment elsewhere). I will, however, revive you in the line of fire if I believe I can get you out of there alive. I take the risk that you will go down again (that's why I usually only revive Green Dots, because they know that they need to shoot), but that you can take them down with you. Usually, they get up and stay up, on occasion they go down again. You can always tell who is about to get rezzed....so if there is a firefight, I always concentrate on the guy getting rezzed. And it is rare that he stays up. A Gallente Heavy that's being repped may be the ideal for being able to stay alive. But if there are others around me, chances are that I'm not the only one concentrating on a rezzed red dot. Removed all hope with this post
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 322	Posted - 2014.06.18 14:45:00 - [54] - Quote DON'T REZ ME!!!
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 175	Posted - 2014.06.18 14:55:00 - [55] - Quote I'm rezzing all you b1tches
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Proficiency V. 854	Posted - 2014.06.18 16:46:00 - [56] - Quote I have my moments when I think I clear the area and it turns out a sniper was around and that guy wasn't on coms. I've rezzed people in the clear who just went afk. I've had people yell at me over coms to come get their precious proto suit even though there are 5 redberries around them. I've had to sadly leave some teammates in the dust because it was more worhwhile to the team as a whole to keep repping those I had to keep pressure on the objective. I've gone down plenty of times and never had a blueberry there to back me up. I've had blueberries pick me up when I really was done with the suit and wanted to come back in with a new one as there were no supply depots. I've had blueberries pick me up in front of redberries because an icon appeared on the screen and sometimes they're dicks, other times they're just desperate to do anything in this game worthwhile and get some precious wp just to make it to the next damn skill so they can be useful eventually. I've also felt guilty looking for the downed merc to find him on a rooftop somewhere I couldn't get to in time. It's not that I don't want to save you and not that I'm actively ignoring you. Yelling into coms that I'm all of 3m away from you is not helpful if you're 50ft above my head. All this shaming isn't useful to new players and won't stop them from doing it to you. This is a role that simply takes education so instead of telling players to stop reviving period, just direct them in the ways they can be better. Reviving has plenty of uses in this game and I've seen it win games before in both clones and teams who thought those 3 greenberries of mine they killed couldn't possibly come back to bit them in the ass. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3137	Posted - 2014.06.18 18:49:00 - [57] - Quote Yeah, my eduating them will consist of me telling them not to use it. If you want to be useful and can't kill worth ****, place uplinks and nanohives down. Or, run behind the crowd and rep people. Removed all hope with this post
Boomer Dues Mortis Shining Flame Amarr Empire 218	Posted - 2014.06.18 19:18:00 - [58] - Quote CCP should just make it not count as a death, I mean honestly you don't even die you are there bleeding out still clutching to life.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Proficiency V. 855	Posted - 2014.06.18 19:29:00 - [59] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Yeah, my eduating them will consist of me telling them not to use it. If you want to be useful and can't kill worth ****, place uplinks and nanohives down. Or, run behind the crowd and rep people. Now I know who to stab repeatedly Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1492	Posted - 2014.06.18 19:30:00 - [60] - Quote Boomer Dues Mortis wrote: CCP should just make it not count as a death, I mean honestly you don't even die you are there bleeding out still clutching to life. Boomer? Where the F have you been? Coming back? Outer.Heaven calls dibs on this guy BTW. Just saying... PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor



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