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Skullmiser Vulcansu
119
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Posted - 2014.06.18 19:46:00 -
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I would prefer it if nanite injectors did not exist.
If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3137
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:34:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Yeah, my eduating them will consist of me telling them not to use it. If you want to be useful and can't kill worth ****, place uplinks and nanohives down. Or, run behind the crowd and rep people. Now I know who to stab repeatedly
Good luck with that
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Cogadh Draco
WarRavens Final Resolution.
31
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Posted - 2014.06.18 20:50:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I like it... Sometimes.
Only if I'm not picked up under fire.
Reviving is a dying art, though.
If CCP put the 'bleedout' option for when we go down, I'D LOVE IT!!! I hate getting rezzed when it's in the middle of a hot zone... Hell I can remember a former corpie that rezzed me 4 times after going straight down just to make fun of me because there was no 'bleedout' option...
All in all, getting rezzed in my opinion sucks. 90% of the time I'll get rezzed in the middle of a fire fight when I want to switch out suits or respawn. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
574
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:23:00 -
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To all the people crying because "only 30-50% armor 1!1!!111!"
I would like to say.
IF DIDN'T RUN THE **** AWAY I WOULD HAVE REPAIRED YOU ASS.
Do you really expect logis, the most expensive suit in game when fully fitted and 2nd squishier suits after the scout to ALWAYS carry proto injectors? When half the time we are the only idiots on the team that actually revive people?
"You should always use proto **** because i don't want another death / can't wait 0.5 seconds for you to repair me"
Start helping the yellow guys around you, carry your own ******* needle and maybe i'll start using proto needles in pub matches. |
Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:59:00 -
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I like to be revived when im in an expensive suit and it's safe .... not when people are still shooting at the position I died at.
other than that, if im in one of my cheap suits and I've deployed my equipment and used up 1/2 my ammo, let me die and respawn. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10774
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Posted - 2014.06.18 22:00:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:To all the people crying because "only 30-50% armor 1!1!!111!"
I would like to say.
IF DIDN'T RUN THE **** AWAY I WOULD HAVE REPAIRED YOU ASS.
Do you really expect logis, the most expensive suit in game when fully fitted and 2nd squishier suits after the scout to ALWAYS carry proto injectors? When half the time we are the only idiots on the team that actually revive people?
"You should always use proto **** because i don't want another death / can't wait 0.5 seconds for you to repair me"
Start helping the yellow guys around you, carry your own ******* needle and maybe i'll start using proto needles in pub matches.
I'm not even a Logi and I'll still bring Proto Rep Tools........
"You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength."
-Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
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Boomer Dues Mortis
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
220
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Posted - 2014.06.19 01:37:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Boomer Dues Mortis wrote:CCP should just make it not count as a death, I mean honestly you don't even die you are there bleeding out still clutching to life. Boomer? Where the F have you been? Coming back? Outer.Heaven calls dibs on this guy BTW. Just saying...
I just go on these forums every once in awhile why I try to kill time. There is no way I am coming back to Dust anytime soon. I have always enjoyed the game but I do not trust CCP, they have made too many awful choices lately and the crap they pulled at fanfest will not be easily forgotten. I will not play a game that the developers lured people into travling and spending large amounts of money only to tell them that basically most of the support for Dust is gone and now it will be on Legion which has not even received the greenlight yet. My time is better spent raiding on FF14 with Doc and Zero, until Destiny comes out. |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1553
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Posted - 2014.06.19 16:41:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:I hate being revived while I try to change my fittings. Like I have said tons of times, you should get the old button that allowed you to be revived if you wanted to be. i agree a reject button should be implemented..also it should always prioritize high lvl injectors if you have a nubs mlt nanites flooding through your system and i needle you with my god nanites at the same time my god nanites should win and revive you with 100% hp |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
366
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Posted - 2014.06.19 16:46:00 -
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Stop the WP farm scheme! Stop the revive!
Saying what's on people's minds
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1553
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Posted - 2014.06.19 16:48:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:I run logi when I squad up and people are always asking for me to revive them. Granted, I carry a repair tool so I repair you as soon as I revive you so you are good to go back to good old fashion killing. Hell, I even carry a rep tool with a scout.
I do however, agree that some people are idiots with the injectors and it should be taken away from there. People be responsible with your injectors and use them responsibly.
i use 50% revives or higher and always repp upon revive and i will revive a heavy in fire or a heavily tanked armor type if they die near my proto especially if i note they're skill. 100% revives meet lai dai repper...and if a squad mate says ima just respawn they will find a 3 sec uplink right next to me and the rest of the squad
i know for a fact that if i revive one of my mates in there good suit they will survive i dont play with chumps that cant use full armor and 70hps to get behind cover..also because they are not chumps they rarely die out in the open
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Michael Arck
4735
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Posted - 2014.06.19 16:57:00 -
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Remove the revive option. I believe I will start campaigning for this.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
779
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Posted - 2014.06.19 22:48:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Reviving in this game is pointless.
Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. Sounds like you've been playing against guys that can't shoot. Maybe you should spend some time training your corp mates, cus a couple of those matches were against RND
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3138
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:22:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Reviving in this game is pointless.
Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. Sounds like you've been playing against guys that can't shoot. Maybe you should spend some time training your corp mates, cus a couple of those matches were against RND
Lulz...what are you saying? Are you trying to compare corps?
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castba
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
488
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:51:00 -
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Hmm, I wonder what dust would be like without a kdr stat. Can you imagine players yelling at the screen to actually get revived so they can rejoin the fight? |
calvin b
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
1640
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:55:00 -
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when I logi I carry only the best 80% revive and then I rep you to full health with my lvl 4 rep tool then I lay a hive down so you can refill your ammo.
If I die pick me up only if there is no reds in the area. Nothing is worse than being revived only to be killed before you can do anything
A heavy before 1.8
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Michael Arck
4743
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:56:00 -
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I know many people who are sick of being revived who don't care at all about the KDR stat and will quickly tell you this game isn't about KDR.
But the fact that people are being revived in the most stupidest situations is more than enough reason to have this thing changed.
This thread should be at the top of GD, daily. We need CCP to do something about this crap.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3139
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:58:00 -
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castba wrote:Hmm, I wonder what dust would be like without a kdr stat. Can you imagine players yelling at the screen to actually get revived so they can rejoin the fight?
MAG had KDR stats and leaderboards...and I always wanted to get rezzed. Rezzing in dust is pointless. Most of the time, you will be instakilled.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3139
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:00:00 -
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calvin b wrote:when I logi I carry only the best 80% revive and then I rep you to full health with my lvl 4 rep tool then I lay a hive down so you can refill your ammo. If I die pick me up only if there is no reds in the area. Nothing is worse than being revived only to be killed before you can do anything
What about if we only have about 150hp and less armor though? If it isn't full health with no revive animation, it's worthless.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
3881
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:05:00 -
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I'm going to skip reading all the posts on the previous page and say this
F - U if you pick me up to farm points in the midst of a firefight, with a MLT injector. I LUV U if you pick me up when the fighting is over and with a Wyrkomi or better yet State Injector Only once have I been picked up by a Wyrkomi in a pub, ONCE. In CHROMOSOME
I'm not resting in peace but rather wandering as a zombie in vengeance of no good reason
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10869
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:07:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:castba wrote:Hmm, I wonder what dust would be like without a kdr stat. Can you imagine players yelling at the screen to actually get revived so they can rejoin the fight? MAG had KDR stats and leaderboards...and I always wanted to get rezzed. Rezzing in dust is pointless. Most of the time, you will be instakilled.
Doesn't matter if you clone just goes into a downed status again.
As long as your team wins any sacrifice is worth it...... except Tanks....... those aren't primarily because I am **** poor.
" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well."
-Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
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Michael Arck
4749
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:10:00 -
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No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it?
Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10869
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:16:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it?
Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid.
It is worth it.
If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter.
We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done.
My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith.
" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well."
-Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3139
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it?
Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. It is worth it. If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter. We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done. My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith.
I have yet to receive a check from our eve "employers".
Even still, it isn't worth it, if a medic wastes time to prorez you and get himself killed in the process. That is time wasted, cause you could have respawned somewhere else or the logi could have been repping other people and keeping them alive.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10871
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:29:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it?
Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. It is worth it. If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter. We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done. My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith. I have yet to receive a check from our eve "employers". Even still, it isn't worth it, if a medic wastes time to prorez you and get himself killed in the process. That is time wasted, cause you could have respawned somewhere else or the logi could have been repping other people and keeping them alive.
Instantly accept clone loss by attrition or delay clone loss by attrition....... why would you just roll over and accept it?
" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well."
-Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1402
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:32:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it?
Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. I really wonder who you are playing with. Idiots like you describe happen to me once every other game session of sometimes several hours.
And even then. Don't blame the needle, blame the incompetent wielder.
That and advocate for proper WP scaling across the needles so that players actually have a reason to use better ones. This will also help you in the long run.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Michael Arck
4752
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it?
Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. It is worth it. If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter. We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done. My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith.
Oh god man, not you True with the KDR reply. You know, its really not about that. And when I say that, I do mean that. It has nothing to do with KDR.
It's why I don't get mad at someone ramming me in a DS. You know why? Cause it was smart. They took the available means they had to take me out and used it against me. I applaud that.
But I'm not a fan of stupidity. Never been.
So when I see someone breaking their neck with the sole thought of reviving a merc and they done nothing to clear out hostiles, the enemy is still firing upon their location, and they don't have reps to get that man to full armor health-I instantly think its stupid.
I applaud intelligent choices on the battlefield. I despise stupid ones. Reviving people in the middle of gunfire is just plain stupid. Nothing to do with KDR. Nope. Just the fact its plain stupid. I don't want to be revived in gunfire. Why? Cause I can't do anything about it! I just got shot again and I die. So it would have been better to leave me be and let me die. Then let me spawn in. And if I die, its by my own hands again.
There's really nothing that anybody can say that would make me look at this falsely. It's stupid to revive people in gunfire and I want it changed. If I had power to deny a person such, I would use it.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10871
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:37:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:No its not. To be revived in the middle of gunfire is worth it as long as the team wins? So you have the medic, instead of shooting at the enemy that just killed you, race over, dodge bullets, dance over your body and sticks a needle in you only to do the same thing over again, is worth it?
Nope. That isn't worth it. LOL @ medic dancing through gunfire...I mean...he's dancing! Dancing and determined to stick you with a needle only so you can die within a nanosecond. I hate that crap. It's so stupid and that has nothing to do with my KDR. Stupid is stupid. It is worth it. If our win lets a capsuleer Plexing fleet make the Ihub in Arzad vulnerable, or deplexes another system that what do 5 or even 10 of my deaths matter. We are infantry and cloned soldiers. Our job is to die for our employers. If someone can not only ensure we lose less clones for the win, save me ISK, and rez me to help with the fighting then its a job well done. My KDR matters not before the calling of the Faith. Oh god man, not you True with the KDR reply. You know, its really not about that. And when I say that, I do mean that. It has nothing to do with KDR. It's why I don't get mad at someone ramming me in a DS. You know why? Cause it was smart. They took the available means they had to take me out and used it against me. I applaud that. But I'm not a fan of stupidity. Never been. So when I see someone breaking their neck with the sole thought of reviving a merc and they done nothing to clear out hostiles, the enemy is still firing upon their location, and they don't have reps to get that man to full armor health-I instantly think its stupid. I applaud intelligent choices on the battlefield. I despise stupid ones. Reviving people in the middle of gunfire is just plain stupid. Nothing to do with KDR. Nope. Just the fact its plain stupid. I don't want to be revived in gunfire. Why? Cause I can't do anything about it! I just got shot again and I die. So it would have been better to leave me be and let me die. Then let me spawn in. And if I die, its by my own hands again. There's really nothing that anybody can say that would make me look at this falsely. It's stupid to revive people in gunfire and I want it changed. If I had power to deny a person such, I would use it.
Meh I trust Aero to have my back in most fights, he knows being picked up to die instantly pisses me off, it doesn't stop him through, in the end if I don't lose my 200K Isk suit and he rezes me back into a fighting role instead of having to redeploy I'm happy.
" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well."
-Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
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Michael Arck
4752
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:39:00 -
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LOL but we're not talking about you and Aero! LOL!
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10875
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Posted - 2014.06.20 01:53:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:LOL but we're not talking about you and Aero! LOL!
But we Revive and get Revived on a basis....were the perfect sample group to draw conclusive evidence from.....
" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well."
-Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
779
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Posted - 2014.06.25 00:03:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Reviving in this game is pointless.
Death still counts and there is a 95% probability that you will be shot down again because you are not revived at full health and there is the revive animation that will get you smoked. I played for the second time in about a month last night. Spent the whole night saying "Don't respawn, I got you." Not a single person complained and we won almost every game by clones. Sounds like you need a better logi. Sounds like you've been playing against guys that can't shoot. Maybe you should spend some time training your corp mates, cus a couple of those matches were against RND Lulz...what are you saying? Why do players like yourself talk trash lol? I wasnt trying to talk trash. Any half way decent logi, who doesnt revive in the middle of fire, should be able to get you up, repped, and resupplied faster than you respawning. If your logi's arent doing that, you need better logis. You came at me with the "you can only do it because your opponent sux" theory. I do this **** in PC all the time.
Do I have teammates who tell me not to bring a needle? Of course I do. They are just like you, precious KDR whoers, with boatloads of isk, who would rather take a suit loss than take one for the team again. But the fact is, its 9/10 better for the team for you to be right there ready to charge when the time is right rather than you showing up 20 seconds later to pop the guy counterhacking the point after the firefight is over. Get over yourself.
Do I think there should be a no revive button? Yes. I hate trying to change a suit and get revived just to die 3 seconds later as much as everyone else. But to say no one should be reviving mercs in competitive play is a bit ridiculous.
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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