i don't think there is 55 corps out there right now that want in but i could be wrong.

WE all ( most of us) really just want fights, especially good fights. And WE can get them without creating a situation that enables abuse or entrenches conditions which later serve the malicious.

This is a fear I have as well. If this is true then perhaps we should just focus on trying to have good fights between the current corps in Molden Heath.

But I will continue to think that there are still corporations out there that haven't been given the opportunity to experience the thrill of fighting alongside 16 of your trusted brothers and sisters against an equally dedicated team of 16, both sporting their best Sunday Dresses.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you wish to experience Planetary Conquest in Dust514 and I will do what I can to make that possible.

What the **** are you talking about? lol


1. AE's wallet had no where even remotely close to that amount of isk. You can cut that number by more than 50% and the wallet still wouldn't even have anything remotely close.

2. Also lies lol, districts were literally sent to everyone that asked for them. People who were even helping ERA fight us when we were trying to hand them out got districts when they asked. We weren't friends with most of the corps we gave districts too, we were neutral to most of them. Some of them we didn't like but still gave them land (such as ML). By the way, we not only gave them free land but we also payed them to be fielded in no shows so they could farm isk.

Kujo gave me, Steven, Bigole, etc. isk to pay everyone we were fielding into no shows. Steven was even holding contests where the winner would receive isk. So ya... let me tell you lol, AE only gave it too our friends.


O and by the way... your corp was allowed to join the fun too. Everyone was allowed :)

If AE only gave land to friends, then I guess AE has a **** load of friends because that chatroom was getting spammed as much as the FEC chat many months ago.


AE had a lot of land and now there is a large variety of corps in PC. Put one and two together cupcake, they got all of that land from AE and districts AE was flipping from ERA no shows.




On a side note: Nibbles, is there any particular reason why this guy is so butt hurt about AE that all he does is spread lies about them? AE is retired and he suddenly pops up to start spreading lies constantly as if he someone hurt his feelings in AE. Is it about the RA vs ProV war? Is he butt hurt about that? Seriously get over it lol, no one cares.

Please keep your butthurt members in line Nibbles, idiots who don't know anything or just spread lies constantly always cause problems later down the road.

This is not a discussion about past events. Chance stop replying to this thread unless you have anything constructive to say about the topic. Yoshi please respect my wish to stay on topic by not replying to chance about this, consider this tangent ended.

With that said keep the discussion going guys.

But you are selling districts and proposing operational costs, both of which are personally gainful, while affiliating yourselves, your project and its results to DNS whose long stated goals and efforts are to 100% Molden Heath ownership. In a region of MH that is "tactically sound...1 way in", so once the territory there is consolidated it can send a huge number of clones out to the surrounding regions with little threat of retaliation. If OH is interested in enriching the PC-NPE why not get involved with the existing PFC groups who already are established and not producing the sort of combatants you desire? Help them refine the opportunities already "being provided" and serve those who have already come forward to be helped.
Any talk of regional control and policing of it, in whatever context, is a land grab. It's ownership by proxy. Just like OH has no alliances but OhNoes to anybody that dares to stage a non-flip attack on DL. No alliances but when an outside entity comes knocking on doors in Almur are they going to get the "OH is independent and has no alliances" memo? No, they are going to face an OH team in district defense mode. Or your allies in it, DNS.

This fella really doesnt like ERA or DNS eh? Get over the DNS 100% thing dude. Was over a month ago. New leadership, new goals. New Blue donut. If you truely are against large alliances, leave your own.

ERA and OH are not allied. I have simply stated I will NOT attack Almur. That is it. In fact, we have a PC against OH tomorow night. Its about outside our time zone..but we will bring what we can!

So just to clear up

Will the people who play in the Almur system be allowed to have districts outside of the Almur system also

Or is it ONLY for corps that no other stakes elsewhere in PC

Also say, in the future, these Corps grow in size and power

How will they be able to flourish onto more districts?

Will they be allowed to own more districts in Almur or let out to have to use districts elsewhere?

I think the sooner they begin implementation the better. People's fears are often allayed when you prove you will do what you say.

You do not need to hold 100% of Almur to accomplish this plan. g/l h/f guys.

/Zatara seal of approval

So, am I reading this correctly? You too are for initiatives to benefit the NPE/flatten the learning curve a little but anti consolidating an entire star system with limited access to it?

What if OH were to "merge" their project with the existing PFC and set apart a (large) swath of space (not ALL) in Almur for those corps that have outgrown PFC? It could be more loosely governed than PFC but still "protected", and by having a second graduating step from PFC it frees up space on PFC itself. Almur corps will battle amongst themselves, be exposed to attack from larger groups, be able to ring players (but " protected" ie. no real flip risk) and if they maintain they branch into PC proper or if they fail hard enough, often enough, they go back to PFC actual after a period perhaps out of PC altogether?

Just tossing out ideas here, Lt. Tib. No offense, I'm brainstorming.

So, am I reading this correctly? You too are for initiatives to benefit the NPE/flatten the learning curve a little but anti consolidating an entire star system with limited access to it?

What if OH were to "merge" their project with the existing PFC and set apart a (large) swath of space (not ALL) in Almur for those corps that have outgrown PFC? It could be more loosely governed than PFC but still "protected", and by having a second graduating step from PFC it frees up space on PFC itself. Almur corps will battle amongst themselves, be exposed to attack from larger groups, be able to ring players (but " protected" ie. no real flip risk) and if they maintain they branch into PC proper or if they fail hard enough, often enough, they go back to PFC actual after a period perhaps out of PC altogether?

Just tossing out ideas here, Lt. Tib. No offense, I'm brainstorming.

Thank you Operator for constructive suggestion.

Yesterday felt like you were attacking everything we were proposing. Lol, was somewhat frustrating.

my perspective stems from my year as an independent and the last few months with a PC/DNS active corp. I see red flags, I point them out.

And we come from the perspective of fighting against big superpowers, including DNS, ever sine 0.Hs conception. We are well aware of the dangers but we feel this is something that we can achieve.

In my opinion, anyone should be able to attack anyone but only PFC corps can flip PFC districts and Almur corps can only flip Almur districts. That way everyone can fight everyone but PFC/Almur corps can't play "diplomatic immunity" to constantly try to flip districts outside of their area.

It could cause problems with PFC corps constantly trying to flip Almur districts without worrying about an Almur corp flipping them. You all work out those details, I'm just tossing the first idea that comes to mind.

Just a 5 second idea that probably has a lot of flaws to it. You all work out the small details :P

Will the people who play in the Almur system be allowed to have districts outside of the Almur system also

Or is it ONLY for corps that no other stakes elsewhere in PC

Also say, in the future, these Corps grow in size and power, how will they be able to flourish onto more districts?

Will they be allowed to own more districts in Almur or let out to have to use districts elsewhere?

Tiberius have you been able to talk to anyone in NS about this?? Im only asking because i believe the district OH attacked was in Almur

Yup had a talk with Brutal last week but he hasn't gotten back to me yet, last thing he said was he was going to try and bring it up to the powers that be in Nyain San, I've already explained the idea to him.

Yup had a talk with Brutal last week but he hasn't gotten back to me yet, last thing he said was he was going to try and bring it up to the powers that be in Nyain San, I've already explained the idea to him.

Oh ok i haven't seen Brutal on this week so i see what i can find out

Roger that o7

@ Sota, no bullying just searching for good fights. A lot of big names that used to give me a lot of trouble :3 Nats doing a good job tho I think.

we're not like OH who'd deny peoples application based on forum drama or any kind of drama

0.H is 40% skill and 60% family, we look for particular types of players; those who share the 0.H mentality. But everyone is free to join our community and apply to I.H and play PC with us, get to know our family and you'll understand why chemistry between players trump all else.

But this is no recruitment post, lets keep it on topic. Cheers Sota o/

And what exactly is the OH mentality?

And why would I join I.H. if you denied me entry into O.H?