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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9918	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:42:00 - [1] - Quote Caldari Scouts and Gallente scouts were pretty much used equally on the Battlefield. Now with the Gallente nerf where you hacked and slashed the bonuses and repair rate, without touching the Caldari Scout, you've pretty much made sure that the Caldari Scout will be the most widely used scout. Congratulations. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Zaria Min Deir Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 688	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:48:00 - [2] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Caldari Scouts and Gallente scouts were pretty much used equally on the Battlefield. Now with the Gallente nerf where you hacked and slashed the bonuses and repair rate, without touching the Caldari Scout, you've pretty much made sure that the Caldari Scout will be the most widely used scout. Congratulations. But this is a good way to boost aur sales, yes? Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Zaria Min Deir Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 691	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:50:00 - [3] - Quote Also, have you not learned yet, Cat, our Caldari overlords WILL reign supreme. Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 995	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:50:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Reducing CA [scout] passive scan to 3% from 5%
Michael Arck 4523	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:51:00 - [5] - Quote I'm pretty sure the axe will make its way around the block. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9920	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:52:00 - [6] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Reducing CA [scout] passive scan to 3% from 5% It said scan range in the document. Not scan precision. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2548	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:53:00 - [7] - Quote Where did you read this?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9920	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:55:00 - [8] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Where did you read this? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JBQf3RqsjQ7MxJ3wY1JN3YSDZekrpWW2zk5tDRUNgw0/edit#gid=0 Type 1.8 Increase Proposed Increase Caldari ScoutScan Range per level \|5% \|3% Gallente ScoutScan Range per level\| 5% \| 1% Gallente ScoutDampening per level \| 5% \| 3% Gallente ScoutPassive regen\| 3hp/s \| 1hp/s Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2548	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:59:00 - [9] - Quote Oh wow, well good thing I have both so meh...
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 995	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:59:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Where did you read this? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JBQf3RqsjQ7MxJ3wY1JN3YSDZekrpWW2zk5tDRUNgw0/edit#gid=0 Type 1.8 Increase Proposed Increase Caldari ScoutScan Range per level \|5% \|3% Gallente ScoutScan Range per level\| 5% \| 1% Gallente ScoutDampening per level \| 5% \| 3% Gallente ScoutPassive regen\| 3hp/s \| 1hp/s So, in conclusion. They have nerfed the Caldari scout.

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9922	Posted - 2014.05.25 11:04:00 - [11] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Cat Merc wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Where did you read this? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JBQf3RqsjQ7MxJ3wY1JN3YSDZekrpWW2zk5tDRUNgw0/edit#gid=0 Type 1.8 Increase Proposed Increase Caldari ScoutScan Range per level \|5% \|3% Gallente ScoutScan Range per level\| 5% \| 1% Gallente ScoutDampening per level \| 5% \| 3% Gallente ScoutPassive regen\| 3hp/s \| 1hp/s So, in conclusion. They have nerfed the Caldari scout. They nerfed the scan range slightly while completely wrecking the Gallente scout. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 1133	Posted - 2014.05.25 11:10:00 - [12] - Quote CCP can't do balance. This has been long determined, and should fall under 'General knowledge'. There is no subtlety in the manner in which they burn classes to the ground, thereby invalidating peoples SP for months at a time. That is how you spell fun. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3010	Posted - 2014.05.25 11:31:00 - [13] - Quote Solid Gk.O nerf IMO CK will be next The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
Cavani1EE7 41	Posted - 2014.05.25 11:35:00 - [14] - Quote The armor repair rate nerf is a nosense. 1337
pegasis prime PROTO WOLVES 1736	Posted - 2014.05.25 11:39:00 - [15] - Quote Take it this way a cal scout us only really useful when decked out with ewar mods that suit it's bonuses. My adv cal scout can see up to 50m on radar and anything that has a scan profile greater than 13 shows up on my tac net within that range. Now equip a Rail rifle on their and you have an awesome flanking fit . But if you are seen before you engage you are pretty much dead as you run with base hp. It's not easy to tank fit a cal scout if you also want a cloak the best you'll get shielding wise is about 370 shields. It's also not easy running an ewar cal scout so I don't think they shall be the next fotm. I'd be more worried about gal logi re spamming as with the cloak/dampening nerfs the scanners will be very useful again. Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1029	Posted - 2014.05.25 11:53:00 - [16] - Quote Back to exciting old gameplay like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFKg_0D3Rm0&t=16m20s Because it makes complete sense that a stealth specialist has to sacrifice 3 modules to counter 1 equipment slot from a Gal Logi. At least now I will only have to fit 3 complex dampeners, instead of 4 like before. Changing my fittings.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3459	Posted - 2014.05.25 11:58:00 - [17] - Quote Is anyone here forgetting about the cloak nerf? HELLO Reducing the time cloaked to 15 seconds for the basic, essentially FORCING scouts to use ADV or higher if they even want to be competitive. If you want to be hidden as a Caldari scout you have to use dampeners in your lows instead of just relying on the 25% reduction from the cloak. And what does that mean? If they're using the ADV cloak they won't have room to stack 4 complex shield extenders like the majority of these so-called "competitive" scouts do now. The reason Caldari scouts are even somewhat "competitive" is because they can have a huge shield base that regenerates insanely fast, run a BASIC cloak that provides all of their dampening needs, all while scanning everything and anything within a 9000 meter radius. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 1764	Posted - 2014.05.25 12:24:00 - [18] - Quote The community and just wrapped up a thoughtful 26 page discussion about this in Feedback and Discussions. Gallente Scouts I There was a lot of back and forth with scout specialists, sharing of data and concerns and the current proposal is the third iteration where we as a whole reached a good compromise. Not everyone will be happy all the time, but I do believe every concern raised in this particular thread has been discussed thoroughly. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 980	Posted - 2014.05.25 13:03:00 - [19] - Quote The cloak nerf will hurt the Caldari scout much more so than the Gallente. The Gallente scout got a few more nerfs but plates remain little changed and reppers got a nice gain. The Gal scout will still be the best stealth and easiest to tank scout while losing the complete dominance. My big question is if we apparently can reduce the Gal/Cal bonus why the hell can't we change the Amarr bonus again?
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 292	Posted - 2014.05.25 13:24:00 - [20] - Quote Poor baby. You have to use THREE dampeners now to get under CalScout's four precision scans. https://googledrive.com/host/0B_YSJ6FRJlihQjFXdzdNYU5MQWM/alpha.html MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1

Hynox Xitio 0uter.Heaven 1225	Posted - 2014.05.25 14:35:00 - [21] - Quote I could care less as long as Amarr sentinel is best sentinel. Unleash the Fogwoggler, follow your dreams. ( -íº -£-û -íº) /)
Goro Scornshard DUST University Ivy League 90	Posted - 2014.05.25 14:55:00 - [22] - Quote Hynox Xitio wrote: I could care less as long as Amarr sentinel is best sentinel. You mean couldn't care less.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1261	Posted - 2014.05.25 14:56:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The community and I just wrapped up a thoughtful 26 page discussion about this in Feedback and Discussions. Gallente Scouts There was a lot of back and forth with scout specialists, sharing of data and concerns and the current proposal is the third iteration where we as a whole reached a good compromise. Not everyone will be happy all the time, but I do believe every concern raised in this particular thread has been discussed thoroughly. Here you can see the change from proposal, through revisions and ultimately the final version Hotfix Alpha Numbers So in your book compromise=far more extreme nerf than had ever been mentioned as a possibility? In the original set of proposed changes the only nerf to gallente scout were the indirect nerfs (cloak nerf and armour nerf). Whereas the final proposal adds on three massive direct nerfs totally out of the blue (dampening, scan, regen) to make for an utterly suit breaking quintuple nerf. You cooked up the real changes in secret like ccp always have, the only difference this time is you wasted everyone's time with 20 pages of discussion about red herrings. I preferred it when patch notes used to appear like stone tablets brought down from the mountain. At least there was no pretense of 'back and forth'. Ps - not as butthurt as i seem, just a bit annoyed that i'll be forced out of a fun, dynamic role and into camping corridors with my hmg tractor beam of death like every other scrub
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3970	Posted - 2014.05.25 15:15:00 - [24] - Quote It's almost impossible to be OP without a bunch of low slots Level 3 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3970	Posted - 2014.05.25 15:17:00 - [25] - Quote Goro Scornshard wrote: Hynox Xitio wrote: I could care less as long as Amarr sentinel is best sentinel. You mean couldn't care less. Not really, it works both ways. It's just that couldn't care less would be > than could care less in the not caring department. Level 3 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
End is Near Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 84	Posted - 2014.05.25 15:21:00 - [26] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Caldari Scouts and Gallente scouts were pretty much used equally on the battlefield. Now with the Gallente nerf where you hacked and slashed the bonuses and repair rate, without touching the Caldari Scout, you've pretty much made sure that the Caldari Scout will be the most widely used scout. Congratulations. Ha ha haaaaaaaa! Gallente scum bag.... you fkers had it coming.... caldari, master race.... muhahahah
End is Near Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 84	Posted - 2014.05.25 15:24:00 - [27] - Quote Goro Scornshard wrote: Hynox Xitio wrote: I could care less as long as Amarr sentinel is best sentinel. You mean couldn't care less. FAILED! Use your words in a sentence! Could not care less.........
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2658	Posted - 2014.05.25 15:25:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Cat Merc wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Where did you read this? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JBQf3RqsjQ7MxJ3wY1JN3YSDZekrpWW2zk5tDRUNgw0/edit#gid=0 Type 1.8 Increase Proposed Increase Caldari ScoutScan Range per level \|5% \|3% Gallente ScoutScan Range per level\| 5% \| 1% Gallente ScoutDampening per level \| 5% \| 3% Gallente ScoutPassive regen\| 3hp/s \| 1hp/s So, in conclusion. They have nerfed the Caldari scout. They nerfed the scan range slightly while completely wrecking the Gallente scout. Wasn't aware of the scan range change, however, when I went to go check, it said that the Scout changes have been delayed.
CHANCEtheChAn 0uter.Heaven 345	Posted - 2014.05.25 15:37:00 - [29] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Poor baby. You have to use THREE dampeners now to get under CalScout's four precision scans. https://googledrive.com/host/0B_YSJ6FRJlihQjFXdzdNYU5MQWM/alpha.html If your are EVER running 4 presicion enhancers on a Cal scout for PC or pubs then your a scrub (its not a viable fit WHATSOEVER) If you are EVER running 3 dampeners on a scout in PC or pubs then you have a shotgun All this is essentially nonsense And so I hope that drives people back to medium frames to get away from the scout QQ by everyone I have a Cal scout I use in PC and Gal scout in reserve All these changes are fair Although the Double cloak Nerf was a bit harsh and has now made it non-viable in PC except for Gal scout "ghosts" Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 294	Posted - 2014.05.25 15:40:00 - [30] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Reducing CA [scout] passive scan to 3% from 5% Wait.... what? Please god no.... I'm Done... Wait the range or precision??



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