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CCP Logibro
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:15:00 -
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Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for gross incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
9683
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:17:00 -
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wat
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:18:00 -
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I would like to hear Nova's side of this.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2706
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:19:00 -
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CCCP.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:24:00 -
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You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University
Ivy League
238
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:25:00 -
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what the?
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2706
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:26:00 -
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CCP, you should just remove yourselves from the development of a New Eden MMOFPS. Scrubs.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:33:00 -
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CCP just went the nuclear option.
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:33:00 -
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O_o
BEER TIME !
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
5640
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:39:00 -
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Interesting...
Useful Links
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
9684
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:40:00 -
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From IRC: "I have zero intention of disputing CCP's decision. Anyone who knows me knows I am all about holding people accountable for Their **** and that Shitlords have no place on the council. I would be a hypocrite if I got upset for CCP removing me if I became a Shitlord in their eyes
I don't think anything more than that needs to be said"
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2708
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:42:00 -
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Nova FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111
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KatanaPT
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
767
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:42:00 -
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Heil CCP.
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Musta Tornius
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1342
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:53:00 -
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Turn the Defconn dial to Yellow!
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2899
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:00:00 -
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I don't see this as any particular loss.
It really is time for CPM1.... CPM0 is such a clusterf*** of fail. At this point it would probably be best if they removed all of them, too many hurt feelings and bad reputations at this point. Time to reset and start fresh. |
Musta Tornius
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1344
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:02:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:I don't see this as any particular loss.
It really is time for CPM1.... CPM0 is such a clusterf*** of fail. At this point it would probably be best if they removed all of them, too many hurt feelings and bad reputations at this point. Time to reset and start fresh.
Yes, the community is filled with promising new rising stars!.....or not.
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Mia Romani
Nexus Marines
121
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:04:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for gross incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
With all due respect, this announcement is in and of itself somewhat unprofessional.
I appreciate that something serious must have occurred to trigger this decision, but I urge you to consider that these actions clearly took place behind closed doors and that we the public don't have the privilege of context.
Without that context, this statement comes across as abrupt and emotionally-charged. Worse, it is damaging to both CCP and the CPM, as we are left with seemingly contradicting statements about CCP's confidence in the CPM.
Again, I'm sure the decision was legitimate. My point is only that without any context, this message is coming across very differently from how I suspect it was intended. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:08:00 -
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Mia Romani wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for gross incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. With all due respect, this announcement is in and of itself somewhat unprofessional. I appreciate that something serious must have occurred to trigger this decision, but I urge you to consider that these actions clearly took place behind closed doors and that we the public don't have the privilege of context. Without that context, this statement comes across as abrupt and emotionally-charged. Worse, it is damaging to both CCP and the CPM, as we are left with seemingly contradicting statements about CCP's confidence in the CPM. Again, I'm sure the decision was legitimate. My point is only that without any context, this message is coming across very differently from how I suspect it was intended.
I'm sure many would appreciate some context on this, me included
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
7564
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:08:00 -
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Mia Romani wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for gross incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. With all due respect, this announcement is in and of itself somewhat unprofessional. I appreciate that something serious must have occurred to trigger this decision, but I urge you to consider that these actions clearly took place behind closed doors and that we the public don't have the privilege of context. Without that context, this statement comes across as abrupt and emotionally-charged. Worse, it is damaging to both CCP and the CPM, as we are left with seemingly contradicting statements about CCP's confidence in the CPM. Again, I'm sure the decision was legitimate. My point is only that without any context, this message is coming across very differently from how I suspect it was intended.
Unfortunately as you said much of the context is private, and due to the NDA we can not share that publicly.
CCP still has full confidence in the CPM as an institution, which is why we are still planning to have elections for CPM 1.
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TrueXer0z
DUST University
Ivy League
556
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:09:00 -
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And the plot thickens....
/popcorn
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Orenji Jiji
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:13:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
Incompetence? Somehow the rest of the CPM is still glued to their seats, so kinda doubtful, innit?
That other part looks interesting, but buried under NDA, so meh.
I liked this game.
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Al the destroyer
NECROM0NGERS
Caps and Mercs
124
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:19:00 -
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Get along or get along that is all
Still playing having more fun than ever cuz IDGAF.
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Kinky Fat Bastard
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:28:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
How do we get the other CPM members removed for 'incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with the community'? |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
460
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:31:00 -
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TBH after that post he made towards Kane yesterday I am not surprised.
EDIT: link to the post https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2157482#post2157482
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:34:00 -
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I would guess that while that might be a part of it, it's probably not the sole reason.
I imagine there was more drama behind the doors of the NDA.
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
460
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:36:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I would guess that while that might be a part of it, it's probably not the sole reason. I imagine there was more drama behind the doors of the NDA.
I guess, but I really can't sympathize that post in any way. It is just disrespectful and not really appropriate in any human way. Oh well. At least shows how you should NOT act as CPM. :D
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
678
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:38:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I would guess that while that might be a part of it, it's probably not the sole reason. I imagine there was more drama behind the doors of the NDA.
If you're correct, I'd say that certainly doesn't bode well for us. What kind of information might set aflame an old merc like Nova Knife?
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LightningDiego
NECROM0NGERS
Caps and Mercs
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I would like to hear Nova's side of this.
Why...?
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
460
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:42:00 -
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LightningDiego wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I would like to hear Nova's side of this. Why...?
It might be hilarious ego-filled wall of text again! Why not? It is always hilarious to read, and a bit sad, as a guy on Reddit pointed out :D
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IgniteableAura
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
1060
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:43:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I would guess that while that might be a part of it, it's probably not the sole reason. I imagine there was more drama behind the doors of the NDA. If you're correct, I'd say that certainly doesn't bode well for us. What manner of act or information might set aflame an old merc like Nova Knife?
Something like no character transfers to Legion, even though they are saying we can have them.
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
460
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:56:00 -
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Well yes, we will not get to the bottom of it at all ever, and maybe that's fine because really, planet politics is not real until we get new game now running and actually being good and then elect proper people that can lead it further? No?
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2708
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:57:00 -
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This doesnt look good at all...
CCP is up to something fishy.
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IgniteableAura
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
1060
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:59:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Well yes, we will not get to the bottom of it at all ever, and maybe that's fine because really, planet politics is not real until we get new game now running and actually being good and then elect proper people that can lead it further? No?
No amount of "elected CPMs" will help if CCP won't listen to them.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13285
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:06:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I would guess that while that might be a part of it, it's probably not the sole reason. I imagine there was more drama behind the doors of the NDA. If you're correct, I'd say that certainly doesn't bode well for us. What manner of act or information might set aflame an old merc like Nova Knife?
More that I imagine all the CPM members are under a lot of stress. As much as people bash on them, they actually do work hard at what they do for nothing in return, and recently they've been scapegoats for a huge amount of rage.
It was my understanding that initially CPM0 was intended just for a few months of work to organise the initial elections. This has, obviously, gone on for a lot longer than that. The cynics amongst us would accuse them of attempting to extend their terms for selfish power reasons or whatever but I think that anyone who believes that has no idea what they're talking about.
So all of these people have been stuck under NDA being told things that they know is going to set off the community, but not allowed to tell people - and they've taken a hell of a lot of flak, hate, and rage over it.
I don't blame them for breaking down a bit.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
400
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:07:00 -
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Quote:Kain also stepped down
when did kain step down, link?
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Ankbar Latrommi
S.e.V.e.N.
General Tso's Alliance
145
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:08:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Anyone remember the betamax and Jenza scamming?
Actually, no I don't. CPM news here is much much quieter than CSM on Eve-O side. I'm always wondering what's going on. This is the first time I remember seeing a post in GenDis which informed me about something relevant in the CPM. Usually on Eve-O side I hear things via a good blog; I don't have a good dust blog to read (yet? ever?)
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2499
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:14:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I would guess that while that might be a part of it, it's probably not the sole reason. I imagine there was more drama behind the doors of the NDA. If you're correct, I'd say that certainly doesn't bode well for us. What manner of act or information might set aflame an old merc like Nova Knife? More that I imagine all the CPM members are under a lot of stress. As much as people bash on them, they actually do work hard at what they do for nothing in return, and recently they've been scapegoats for a huge amount of rage. It was my understanding that initially CPM0 was intended just for a few months of work to organise the initial elections. This has, obviously, gone on for a lot longer than that. The cynics amongst us would accuse them of attempting to extend their terms for selfish power reasons or whatever but I think that anyone who believes that has no idea what they're talking about. So all of these people have been stuck under NDA being told things that they know is going to set off the community, but not allowed to tell people - and they've taken a hell of a lot of flak, hate, and rage over it. I don't blame them for breaking down a bit.
nah I got to go with the negative theory this time.
when things looks good ccp gives us horrible news, when things look great then we get average news.
I'm not sure what we will get when all the signs point to bad news.....but i'm sure most of us won't be playing dust after we here it. |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
8506
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:16:00 -
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So if that was enough to remove Nova Knife, how is CPM Iron Wolf Saber still employed?
GG your thread was very EZ
Call me names if you'd like, but what I'm saying is still true.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2713
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:So if that was enough to remove Nova Knife, how is CPM Iron Wolf Saber still employed?
He must have raged internally in a meeting or something.
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Moorian Flav
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:29:00 -
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Am I missing something? CCP already said they have no content updates planned; merely slight balancing and minor bug fixes that won't require a client update. Therefore, what purpose could the CPM1 possibly serve with the very, very limited scope the CPM1 is left with?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:29:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:
nah I got to go with the negative theory this time.
Of course you're going with the negative outlook.
There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
8510
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:33:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:calisk galern wrote:
nah I got to go with the negative theory this time.
Of course you're going with the negative outlook. There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so.
When you look at the actions of the human race, can you really blame him?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:35:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:calisk galern wrote:
nah I got to go with the negative theory this time.
Of course you're going with the negative outlook. There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so. When you look at the actions of the human race, can you really blame him?
I'm not blaming him.
I'm simply commenting that the tendency towards the negative outlook of people who they've scapegoated is the norm.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Sirpidey Adtur
Aloren Foundations
132
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:47:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Unfortunately as you said much of the context is private, and due to the NDA we can not share that publicly.
CCP still has full confidence in the CPM as an institution, which is why we are still planning to have elections for CPM 1.
I wish I could trust anything a CCP dev says.
https://pay.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/22td7a/storm_on_the_horizon_wod_appears_to_be_cancelled/cgq9los
This proves that CCP either will lie straight to our face, or does not communicate amongst itself. Either way, we cannot trust your word. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2499
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Posted - 2014.05.15 13:51:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Atiim wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:calisk galern wrote:
nah I got to go with the negative theory this time.
Of course you're going with the negative outlook. There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so. When you look at the actions of the human race, can you really blame him? I'm not blaming him. I'm simply commenting that the tendency towards the negative outlook of people who they've scapegoated is the norm.
i'm actually basing that on past experiences so far, if in the past ccp had com through on hype, lived up to their word, and did things such in the way to deserve the benefit of the doubt they would have mine, but they have not done anything to earn that.
the only reliable thing to come out of ccp so far is that what ever you expect you will probably get two levels lower. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13294
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:07:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:
i'm actually basing that on past experiences so far, if in the past ccp had com through on hype, lived up to their word, and did things such in the way to deserve the benefit of the doubt they would have mine, but they have not done anything to earn that.
the only reliable thing to come out of ccp so far is that what ever you expect you will probably get two levels lower.
Your initial post was saying you were taking the negative view of the CPM, but here we're talking about the CPM. I'm a little confused here. These are separate entities.
How are you basing your negative view of the CPM off past experiences with CCP?
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Dexter Peabody
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
115
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:10:00 -
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rip in peace m8 |
Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2405
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:12:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Quote:Kain also stepped down when did kain step down, link?
No public announcement, there would be too much fanfare.
This would cause more forum bans than the number from Fan Fest Legion announcement.
Let's just hope that whatever happened yesterday was recorded so we can find out what happened in 5 years
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
345
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:12:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
Did he say no when the zippers went down or something?
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2499
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:15:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
Your initial post was saying you were taking the negative view of the CPM, but here we're talking about the CPM. I'm a little confused here. These are separate entities.
How are you basing your negative view of the CPM off past experiences with CCP?
apparently I didn't quote who i was responding to.
Spectral Clone wrote:This doesnt look good at all...
CCP is up to something fishy.
this as well
IgniteableAura wrote:
Something like no character transfers to Legion, even though they are saying we can have them.
@those referencing the post from NK to Kain, no matter how badly he scorned Kain, they can't really punish him for that sort of thing as I have seen far WORSE things from other members of the CPM community. Anyone remember the betamax and Jenza scamming? OR how some people think IWS is a giant troll.
Its likely a much bigger NDA issue with the either Dust or Legion. Don't forget there is already one other CPM member who left of his own accord due to the legion announcement and CCPs lack of desire to heed the CPM warnings. Kain also stepped down, so thats 3 CPMs out of the picture. Whatever this NDA'd news is, its likely to be a big bombshell. Think about it, KAIN stepping down from a huge position because of RL issues? More or less it sounds like "whats the point of CPM"
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2721
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:16:00 -
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Spartan MK420 wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. Did he say no when the zippers went down or something?
Probably something like this. Strongly related to the transition to Legion and/or shut down of Dust servers.
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hello jpg
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:44:00 -
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Okay guys, I just got insider information that Nova Knife was removed from the CPM not due to the Kain QQ debacle, but something else... This is pretty alarming.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:46:00 -
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hello jpg wrote:Okay guys, I just got insider information that Nova Knife was removed from the CPM not due to the Kain QQ debacle, but something else... This is pretty alarming.
Ban me up scotty!
I give you a 2/10 for effort.
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1081
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:51:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
So you're cutting people loose for incompetence now? Are you sure you want to go down that road, CCP?
Can't say I'm all that surprised.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
1846
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:13:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:Am I missing something? CCP already said they have no content updates planned; merely slight balancing and minor bug fixes that won't require a client update. Therefore, what purpose could the CPM1 possibly serve with the very, very limited scope the CPM1 is left with?
The CPM is giving advice on Legion. CCP Z mentioned that there wouldn't be more information on the Progression Changes until the CPM gave input about it. So for DUST 514 as it exists on the PS3, CPM1 would have little point but for DUST 514 as it will exist on PC there is reason.
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Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
6
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CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
posting in a dev Rage Thread. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
680
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:33:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:hello jpg wrote:Okay guys, I just got insider information that Nova Knife was removed from the CPM not due to the Kain QQ debacle, but something else... This is pretty alarming.
Ban me up scotty! I give you a 2/10 for effort.
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1041
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:34:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
shots fired CCP... shots fired
In Rust We Trust
Vherokior Warrior
My Honor is for the Republic
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1510
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:36:00 -
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My guess: He wasn't down for licking boot and sucking **** like the rest of your little lapdog squad.
You've already proven you don't fire for incompetence due to anyone at the shanghai branch even being employed.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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LittleCuteBunny
525
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:47:00 -
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Appointed by the players... removed by the corporation.
How does he CPM represent the players ?
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2407
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:50:00 -
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LittleCuteBunny wrote:Appointed by the corporation... removed by the corporation.
How does he CPM represent the players ?
fixed
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843 Epidemic
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
1222
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:53:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:calisk galern wrote:
nah I got to go with the negative theory this time.
Of course you're going with the negative outlook. There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so.
HEY.
I wash Calisk regularly.
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Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:59:00 -
[63] - Quote
#DramaLlama
#QQ
#butthurtnerds
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xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
151
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:05:00 -
[64] - Quote
Mia Romani wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for gross incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. With all due respect, this announcement is in and of itself somewhat unprofessional. I appreciate that something serious must have occurred to trigger this decision, but I urge you to consider that these actions clearly took place behind closed doors and that we the public don't have the privilege of context. Without that context, this statement comes across as abrupt and emotionally-charged. Worse, it is damaging to both CCP and the CPM, as we are left with seemingly contradicting statements about CCP's confidence in the CPM. Again, I'm sure the decision was legitimate. My point is only that without any context, this message is coming across very differently from how I suspect it was intended.
Kinda like the Dust Keynote for FanFest 
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
1227
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:16:00 -
[65] - Quote
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote:Kinda like the Dust Keynote for FanFest
What keynote? |
Doyle Reese
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
468
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:58:00 -
[66] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote:xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote:Kinda like the Dust Keynote for FanFest What keynote?
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
860
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:03:00 -
[67] - Quote
This whole thread makes me laugh. Ahh, CCP I just don't care anymore about your shenanigans.
CCP continues to make the wrong choices, one choice at a time. aka Legion.
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Scheherazade VII
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
509
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:46:00 -
[68] - Quote
So somebody stepped out, stood up and like the communist party of china you silenced him.
it takes COURAGE to stand up for what is RIGHT when everybody around you is doing what is WRONG.
Silence the dissidents.
Kane is an ******* and got called out. +9001 NOVA KNIFE.
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1694
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:37:00 -
[69] - Quote
IgniteableAura wrote:
Its likely a much bigger NDA issue with the either Dust or Legion. Don't forget there is already one other CPM member who left of his own accord due to the legion announcement and CCPs lack of desire to heed the CPM warnings. Kain also stepped down, so thats 3 CPMs out of the picture. Whatever this NDA'd news is, its likely to be a big bombshell. Think about it, KAIN stepping down from a huge position because of RL issues? More or less it sounds like "whats the point of CPM"
Absolutely not. This has nothing to do with any recent news or decisions made by CCP, Logibro's dismissal was made based on Nova's behavioral conduct and that alone. While Nova is a dear friend and been invaluable throughout the year, I will not be defending his actions in this case because they were completely out of line and Logibro acted to protect the council and future councils.
Also, Kain also has not "stepped down", in fact his recent post was specifically to point out that he was winding down his IN-GAME actions to focus on the remaining CPM business as well as RL priorities.
Sorry to pop the drama balloon, but there simply are no looming NDA-ed "bombshell" secrets, this incident has nothing to do with our work on either Dust 514 or Project Legion. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
7583
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:46:00 -
[70] - Quote
Apologies to Nova, seems an earlier midnight draft slipped through. The incompetence referred to in the first post is due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. There's no actual incompetence beyond that.
And for anyone asking, a CPM member would not be removed for disagreeing with development direction unless they also threatened to breach the NDA in regards to it (in which case they would be removed due to threatening to breach the NDA, not disagreeing).
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hello jpg
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:49:00 -
[71] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:Apologies to Nova, seems an earlier midnight draft slipped through. The incompetence referred to in the first post is due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. There's no actual incompetence beyond that. I've reworded it a bit to better reflect the actual situation.
And for anyone asking, a CPM member would not be removed for disagreeing with development direction unless they also threatened to breach the NDA in regards to it (in which case they would be removed due to threatening to breach the NDA, not disagreeing).
So, when do we get the bad news of whatever you were discussing when he raged? |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
8524
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:53:00 -
[72] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:[...]
Additionally, this action was not taken in response to a single incident, but instead actions over a longer period of time.
Such as?
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
684
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:11:00 -
[73] - Quote
Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: there simply are no looming NDA-ed "bombshell" secrets, this incident has nothing to do with our work on either Dust 514 or Project Legion.
Thank you for the info, Heinrich!
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2082
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:18:00 -
[74] - Quote
Is this a Brenniv+¡n-related incident?
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mollerz
3508
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:18:00 -
[75] - Quote
Phoenix 85 wrote:#DramaLlama
#QQ
#butthurtnerds
#youareinthethockofitnotaboveit
#hashtagsareforsupernerdsintofads
#poser
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
2540
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:26:00 -
[76] - Quote
hello jpg wrote:So, when do we get the bad news of whatever you were discussing when he raged?
I recommend reading Hans' post:
Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: there simply are no looming NDA-ed "bombshell" secrets, this incident has nothing to do with our work on either Dust 514 or Project Legion.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2741
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:26:00 -
[77] - Quote
Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:
Sorry to pop the drama balloon, but there simply are no looming NDA-ed "bombshell" secrets, this incident has nothing to do with our work on either Dust 514 or Project Legion.
You mean no held back information like the EVE: Legion announcement and cancellation of World of Darknes???
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3117
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:39:00 -
[78] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:Apologies to Nova, seems an earlier midnight draft slipped through. The incompetence referred to in the first post is due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. There's no actual incompetence beyond that. I've reworded it a bit to better reflect the actual situation.
And for anyone asking, a CPM member would not be removed for disagreeing with development direction unless they also threatened to breach the NDA in regards to it (in which case they would be removed due to threatening to breach the NDA, not disagreeing). Additionally, this action was not taken in response to a single incident, but instead actions over a longer period of time.
The new post is far more professional and diplomatic than the one that slipped through.
Far better post
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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1021
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:51:00 -
[79] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:Apologies to Nova, seems an earlier midnight draft slipped through. The incompetence referred to in the first post is due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. There's no actual incompetence beyond that. I've reworded it a bit to better reflect the actual situation.
Not to mention that if it took you a full year to remove an incompetent person, that would make CCP look even more incompetent.
I commend CCP and the rest of the CPM for enduring working an entire year with a person that is clearly unable to work professionally and diplomatically with other members of the council, as you can clearly see in the hundreds of troll posts and flame threads he created, and that I can't find right now, but I'm sure must be somewhere.
Thanks for protecting us. |
Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
227
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:05:00 -
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What precedence has past CSM (Eve Online Council) public criticism on each other have on a Current CPM council public criticism and removal of CPM Member.
My question is CCP Logibro actions are they inline with CSM Council discipline.
Nova was removed would a current CSM be removed if same posts were posted.
Do they fight and bicker also? Are they members of the human race .I think so.
Something to think about. |
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Uncle AWOL Protheans
BetaMax.
72
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:27:00 -
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Well, this is all very interesting. |
Ivar Iosef
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
111
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:14:00 -
[82] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
How come this one is different from the one others earlier are quoting?
Maybe you realize the gross incompetence charge wouldn't fly?
Spin, spin CCP, spin!
If Nova got shitcanned, then we are ALL in a lot of trouble. He was the best CPM they had, and they just threw him under the bus.
Edit: Questioned answered. Earlier draft? Being a shithead is not incompetence, no matter how you try to cut it. Sorry, but truth is truth.
Idiocy makes my trigger finger itch.
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
756
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:43:00 -
[83] - Quote
Muh pretend U.N. |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
8536
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:52:00 -
[84] - Quote
Abron Garr wrote:Muh pretend U.N.
Wow that response was so weak that you may as well have not responded in the first place.
As my corpmates would say, "GG was very EZ".
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RailTank QQ
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
39
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Posted - 2014.05.16 00:50:00 -
[85] - Quote
Heh, CCPR.
Don't mention popcorn or lackthereof while watching CPM0 go supernova, forum overlords don't like it.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2097
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Posted - 2014.05.16 01:52:00 -
[86] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:calisk galern wrote:
i'm actually basing that on past experiences so far, if in the past ccp had com through on hype, lived up to their word, and did things such in the way to deserve the benefit of the doubt they would have mine, but they have not done anything to earn that.
the only reliable thing to come out of ccp so far is that what ever you expect you will probably get two levels lower.
Your initial post was saying you were taking the negative view of the CPM, but here we're talking about the CPM. I'm a little confused here. These are separate entities. How are you basing your negative view of the CPM off past experiences with CCP?
He's assigning a probability to future events falling into the category 'bad' based on past experience with CCP's development of DUST and the nature of their interactions with the playerbase. That's the way i'm reading his use of the phrase 'negative view'.
He's inferring that the recent resignations/turmoil we've seen with the CPM are related in part to issues of development of DUST/Legion by CCP.
I'd say he's engaging in reasonable inference. I'd say you're trolling.
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TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
579
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:06:00 -
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tsk tsk logibro. the rough draft had only a couple of lines on it and ya'll still messed it up. CCP should never use the word incompetent unless they are talking about themselves.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
3295
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:18:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. So you're cutting people loose for incompetence now? Are you sure you want to go down that road, CCP?
Everyone wrote:Effective immediately, CCP has been removed from game development. They have been removed due to incompetence and and inability to professionally and diplomatically work with technology or their playerbase.
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Vell0cet
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
2013
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:00:00 -
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This is a shame. Nova Knife squaded up randomly in an open squad I was in once back in November/Decemberish. He seemed like a smart dude who was pretty cool. He was reaching out to the randoms people trying to get feedback and just talking with us about the game. He earned a lot of respect from me for that. I'm not privy to the drama, so I can't comment. I assume emotions must be high due to the radical changes that are ongoing. This is a loss. CPM1 elections can't come soon enough. Unfortunately I think many of the players that would have been excellent CPM candidates have already packed their bags.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
1005
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:32:00 -
[90] - Quote
DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
Red Whines.
2296
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:40:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
UBER LOL. DAT MESSAGE !
Thank god for NDAs right ? Yeah yeah i know, those are handy uh CCP ?
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Liner ReXiandra
Sparks Inc
Zero Hour Alliance
117
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:55:00 -
[92] - Quote
Not surprised, reading some of his tweets got me the impression that he might be a little awkward on the social department, down to right creepy. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2648
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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:19:00 -
[93] - Quote
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
HAHAHAAHHAAAAAAAAA
I am crying right now I am laughing so much.
Suggesting Jenza would make a good CPM got me banned for trolling :(
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Captain-Awesome
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
563
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Posted - 2014.05.16 09:25:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
HAHAHAAHHAAAAAAAAA
I am crying right now I am laughing so much.
nothing like a bit of drama to get some decent players interested.... because this game will never do it! ;)
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>Role: Logistics
Waiting for dust to go on PS4
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2764
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Posted - 2014.05.16 13:05:00 -
[95] - Quote
QQ CCP
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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A
Caps and Mercs
90
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Posted - 2014.05.16 16:30:00 -
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Let me make the following considerations about this episode:
1) Ex-CPM Nova Knife did something really wrong ... my guess is a post made by him about the situation between CPM and CCP about Project Legion
2) Nova Knife is not incompetent... quite the contrary, he was always trying the best to answer all the questions posted in this forum section.
3) CCP has shown complete lack o professionalism by posting this ... as someone already pointed out.
4) CCP is up to something fishy as someone already pointed out...
5) My trust to CPM is now -10
6) My money is on hold until this mess is cleaned...
My corp is moving to Destiny ... I'm staying ... all alone
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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A
Caps and Mercs
96
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Posted - 2014.05.16 21:53:00 -
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Just to add Spice.
I feel bad for this game... It could have been a great game if was planned to go PC from the start... I was worried in the past about this game needing some fresh life in a new platform, but things with PR were HORRIBLE with no plans to move us to another platform (CCP couldn't see the move happening in a few years? Haven't they planned this?)
For christ sake CCP... I was planning and entire elite formation for planetary assault. DUST Brasil S.A was growing by the numbers everyday just by motivating people about the future of this game...
and yet... you guys "Laser focused on the PS3" the way you guys laser focus in this game, just trying something else...
Ex-CPM Nova Knife I still have lot of respect to you... CCP used CPM to show that they "cared" about this community, yet when they need to expel a member that invested time and effort FOR FREE to make a better game you call them gross incomptent...
CCP, The DBSA council is moving to another game... one that cares about it's players, but you don't even care right?
My apologies in advance for this sincere post... I would say this personally as I would face to face to a real person.
My corp is moving to Destiny ... I'm staying ... all alone
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
1686
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Posted - 2014.05.17 03:40:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP.
Even saying this is too much. Has CCP ever written such things about a fully paid employee that has been fired?
No. Because it is something that is not done.
Community manager. Not part of the community. Professionalism.
"Effective immediatelly, CPM member Nova Knife will no longer be serving as a member of the Council of Planetary Management"
... would suffice.
"Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay it's price."
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JonnyAugust
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
365
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Very interesting. |
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