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Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2407	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:50:00 - [61] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: Appointed by the corporation... removed by the corporation. How does he CPM represent the players ? fixed Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1222	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:53:00 - [62] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: calisk galern wrote: nah I got to go with the negative theory this time. Of course you're going with the negative outlook. There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so. HEY. I wash Calisk regularly. Brb, sister needs the TV
Phoenix 85 Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 94	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:59:00 - [63] - Quote #DramaLlama #QQ #butthurtnerds EDUCATE YOURSELF
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 151	Posted - 2014.05.15 16:05:00 - [64] - Quote Mia Romani wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for gross incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. With all due respect, this announcement is in and of itself somewhat unprofessional. I appreciate that something serious must have occurred to trigger this decision, but I urge you to consider that these actions clearly took place behind closed doors and that we the public don't have the privilege of context. Without that context, this statement comes across as abrupt and emotionally-charged. Worse, it is damaging to both CCP and the CPM, as we are left with seemingly contradicting statements about CCP's confidence in the CPM. Again, I'm sure the decision was legitimate. My point is only that without any context, this message is coming across very differently from how I suspect it was intended. Kinda like the Dust Keynote for FanFest *I LOGI LIKE I GIVE A FLUX* \|Director of Fatal Absolution\| \|Ringer Hub Creator\| Skype: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1227	Posted - 2014.05.15 16:16:00 - [65] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Kinda like the Dust Keynote for FanFest What keynote?
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 468	Posted - 2014.05.15 16:58:00 - [66] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Kinda like the Dust Keynote for FanFest What keynote? thatsthejoke.gif
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 860	Posted - 2014.05.15 17:03:00 - [67] - Quote This whole thread makes me laugh. Ahh, CCP I just don't care anymore about your shenanigans. CCP continues to make the wrong choices, one choice at a time. aka Legion.
Scheherazade VII SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 509	Posted - 2014.05.15 17:46:00 - [68] - Quote So somebody stepped out, stood up and like the communist party of china you silenced him. it takes COURAGE to stand up for what is RIGHT when everybody around you is doing what is WRONG. Silence the dissidents. Kane is an ******* and got called out. +9001 NOVA KNIFE. Permanent Beta Tester \|\| MAG Vet, SVER Scrub For Life
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1694	Posted - 2014.05.15 18:37:00 - [69] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Its likely a much bigger NDA issue with the either Dust or Legion. Don't forget there is already one other CPM member who left of his own accord due to the legion announcement and CCPs lack of desire to heed the CPM warnings. Kain also stepped down, so thats 3 CPMs out of the picture. Whatever this NDA'd news is, its likely to be a big bombshell. Think about it, KAIN stepping down from a huge position because of RL issues? More or less it sounds like "whats the point of CPM" Absolutely not. This has nothing to do with any recent news or decisions made by CCP, Logibro's dismissal was made based on Nova's behavioral conduct and that alone. While Nova is a dear friend and been invaluable throughout the year, I will not be defending his actions in this case because they were completely out of line and Logibro acted to protect the council and future councils. Also, Kain also has not "stepped down", in fact his recent post was specifically to point out that he was winding down his IN-GAME actions to focus on the remaining CPM business as well as RL priorities. Sorry to pop the drama balloon, but there simply are no looming NDA-ed "bombshell" secrets, this incident has nothing to do with our work on either Dust 514 or Project Legion.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 7583	Posted - 2014.05.15 18:46:00 - [70] - Quote Apologies to Nova, seems an earlier midnight draft slipped through. The incompetence referred to in the first post is due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. There's no actual incompetence beyond that. And for anyone asking, a CPM member would not be removed for disagreeing with development direction unless they also threatened to breach the NDA in regards to it (in which case they would be removed due to threatening to breach the NDA, not disagreeing). CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites (a¦á_a¦á)


hello jpg Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.05.15 18:49:00 - [71] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Apologies to Nova, seems an earlier midnight draft slipped through. The incompetence referred to in the first post is due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. There's no actual incompetence beyond that. I've reworded it a bit to better reflect the actual situation. And for anyone asking, a CPM member would not be removed for disagreeing with development direction unless they also threatened to breach the NDA in regards to it (in which case they would be removed due to threatening to breach the NDA, not disagreeing). So, when do we get the bad news of whatever you were discussing when he raged?
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 8524	Posted - 2014.05.15 18:53:00 - [72] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: [...] Additionally, this action was not taken in response to a single incident, but instead actions over a longer period of time. Such as? Official Atiim Feedback Thread -HAND
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 684	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:11:00 - [73] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: there simply are no looming NDA-ed "bombshell" secrets, this incident has nothing to do with our work on either Dust 514 or Project Legion. Thank you for the info, Heinrich! :: Puts away tinfoil ::
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2082	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:18:00 - [74] - Quote Is this a Brenniv+¡n-related incident? My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity, DeadlyAztec11 and Sinboto Simmons.
mollerz 3508	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:18:00 - [75] - Quote Phoenix 85 wrote: #DramaLlama #QQ #butthurtnerds #youareinthethockofitnotaboveit #hashtagsareforsupernerdsintofads #poser You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2540	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:26:00 - [76] - Quote hello jpg wrote: So, when do we get the bad news of whatever you were discussing when he raged? I recommend reading Hans' post: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: there simply are no looming NDA-ed "bombshell" secrets, this incident has nothing to do with our work on either Dust 514 or Project Legion. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2741	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:26:00 - [77] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Sorry to pop the drama balloon, but there simply are no looming NDA-ed "bombshell" secrets, this incident has nothing to do with our work on either Dust 514 or Project Legion. You mean no held back information like the EVE: Legion announcement and cancellation of World of Darknes??? F U CCP This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 3117	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:39:00 - [78] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Apologies to Nova, seems an earlier midnight draft slipped through. The incompetence referred to in the first post is due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. There's no actual incompetence beyond that. I've reworded it a bit to better reflect the actual situation. And for anyone asking, a CPM member would not be removed for disagreeing with development direction unless they also threatened to breach the NDA in regards to it (in which case they would be removed due to threatening to breach the NDA, not disagreeing). Additionally, this action was not taken in response to a single incident, but instead actions over a longer period of time. The new post is far more professional and diplomatic than the one that slipped through. Far better post KRRROOOOOOM
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1021	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:51:00 - [79] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Apologies to Nova, seems an earlier midnight draft slipped through. The incompetence referred to in the first post is due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. There's no actual incompetence beyond that. I've reworded it a bit to better reflect the actual situation. Not to mention that if it took you a full year to remove an incompetent person, that would make CCP look even more incompetent. I commend CCP and the rest of the CPM for enduring working an entire year with a person that is clearly unable to work professionally and diplomatically with other members of the council, as you can clearly see in the hundreds of troll posts and flame threads he created, and that I can't find right now, but I'm sure must be somewhere. Thanks for protecting us.
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 227	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:05:00 - [80] - Quote What precedence has past CSM (Eve Online Council) public criticism on each other have on a Current CPM council public criticism and removal of CPM Member. My question is CCP Logibro actions are they inline with CSM Council discipline. Nova was removed would a current CSM be removed if same posts were posted. Do they fight and bicker also? Are they members of the human race .I think so. Something to think about.

Uncle AWOL Protheans BetaMax. 72	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:27:00 - [81] - Quote Well, this is all very interesting.
Ivar Iosef G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 111	Posted - 2014.05.15 21:14:00 - [82] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed due to an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. How come this one is different from the one others earlier are quoting? Maybe you realize the gross incompetence charge wouldn't fly? Spin, spin CCP, spin! If Nova got shitcanned, then we are ALL in a lot of trouble. He was the best CPM they had, and they just threw him under the bus. Edit: Questioned answered. Earlier draft? Being a shithead is not incompetence, no matter how you try to cut it. Sorry, but truth is truth. Idiocy makes my trigger finger itch. [GI4NT] <3XXXD>
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 756	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:43:00 - [83] - Quote Muh pretend U.N.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 8536	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:52:00 - [84] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: Muh pretend U.N. Wow that response was so weak that you may as well have not responded in the first place. As my corpmates would say, "GG was very EZ". Official Atiim Feedback Thread -HAND
RailTank QQ SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 39	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:50:00 - [85] - Quote Heh, CCPR. Don't mention popcorn or lackthereof while watching CPM0 go supernova, forum overlords don't like it. SoldnerVonkuechle
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2097	Posted - 2014.05.16 01:52:00 - [86] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: calisk galern wrote: i'm actually basing that on past experiences so far, if in the past ccp had com through on hype, lived up to their word, and did things such in the way to deserve the benefit of the doubt they would have mine, but they have not done anything to earn that. the only reliable thing to come out of ccp so far is that what ever you expect you will probably get two levels lower. Your initial post was saying you were taking the negative view of the CPM, but here we're talking about the CPM. I'm a little confused here. These are separate entities. How are you basing your negative view of the CPM off past experiences with CCP? He's assigning a probability to future events falling into the category 'bad' based on past experience with CCP's development of DUST and the nature of their interactions with the playerbase. That's the way i'm reading his use of the phrase 'negative view'. He's inferring that the recent resignations/turmoil we've seen with the CPM are related in part to issues of development of DUST/Legion by CCP. I'd say he's engaging in reasonable inference. I'd say you're trolling. PSN: RationalSpark
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 579	Posted - 2014.05.16 02:06:00 - [87] - Quote tsk tsk logibro. the rough draft had only a couple of lines on it and ya'll still messed it up. CCP should never use the word incompetent unless they are talking about themselves.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3295	Posted - 2014.05.16 02:18:00 - [88] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. So you're cutting people loose for incompetence now? Are you sure you want to go down that road, CCP? Everyone wrote: Effective immediately, CCP has been removed from game development. They have been removed due to incompetence and and inability to professionally and diplomatically work with technology or their playerbase. Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit! See you in Destiny psn: bobswerski
Vell0cet Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 2013	Posted - 2014.05.16 03:00:00 - [89] - Quote This is a shame. Nova Knife squaded up randomly in an open squad I was in once back in November/Decemberish. He seemed like a smart dude who was pretty cool. He was reaching out to the randoms people trying to get feedback and just talking with us about the game. He earned a lot of respect from me for that. I'm not privy to the drama, so I can't comment. I assume emotions must be high due to the radical changes that are ongoing. This is a loss. CPM1 elections can't come soon enough. Unfortunately I think many of the players that would have been excellent CPM candidates have already packed their bags. Best PvE idea ever!
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 1005	Posted - 2014.05.16 03:32:00 - [90] - Quote DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.



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