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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Aoena Rays wrote:

TBH after that post he made towards Kane yesterday I am not surprised.

EDIT: link to the post https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2157482#post2157482

I would guess that while that might be a part of it, it's probably not the sole reason.
I imagine there was more drama behind the doors of the NDA.

If you're correct, I'd say that certainly doesn't bode well for us. What manner of act or information might set aflame an old merc like Nova Knife?

More that I imagine all the CPM members are under a lot of stress. As much as people bash on them, they actually do work hard at what they do for nothing in return, and recently they've been scapegoats for a huge amount of rage.

It was my understanding that initially CPM0 was intended just for a few months of work to organise the initial elections. This has, obviously, gone on for a lot longer than that. The cynics amongst us would accuse them of attempting to extend their terms for selfish power reasons or whatever but I think that anyone who believes that has no idea what they're talking about.

So all of these people have been stuck under NDA being told things that they know is going to set off the community, but not allowed to tell people - and they've taken a hell of a lot of flak, hate, and rage over it.

I don't blame them for breaking down a bit.

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Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 460	Posted - 2014.05.15 12:56:00 - [31] - Quote Well yes, we will not get to the bottom of it at all ever, and maybe that's fine because really, planet politics is not real until we get new game now running and actually being good and then elect proper people that can lead it further? No? CCP Rouge confirmed your stuff will be moved from DUST to LEGION. Stop stupid biomassing.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2708	Posted - 2014.05.15 12:57:00 - [32] - Quote This doesnt look good at all... CCP is up to something fishy. This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
IgniteableAura Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 1060	Posted - 2014.05.15 12:59:00 - [33] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: Well yes, we will not get to the bottom of it at all ever, and maybe that's fine because really, planet politics is not real until we get new game now running and actually being good and then elect proper people that can lead it further? No? No amount of "elected CPMs" will help if CCP won't listen to them. Youtube
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13285	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:06:00 - [34] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: TBH after that post he made towards Kane yesterday I am not surprised. EDIT: link to the post https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2157482#post2157482 I would guess that while that might be a part of it, it's probably not the sole reason. I imagine there was more drama behind the doors of the NDA. If you're correct, I'd say that certainly doesn't bode well for us. What manner of act or information might set aflame an old merc like Nova Knife? More that I imagine all the CPM members are under a lot of stress. As much as people bash on them, they actually do work hard at what they do for nothing in return, and recently they've been scapegoats for a huge amount of rage. It was my understanding that initially CPM0 was intended just for a few months of work to organise the initial elections. This has, obviously, gone on for a lot longer than that. The cynics amongst us would accuse them of attempting to extend their terms for selfish power reasons or whatever but I think that anyone who believes that has no idea what they're talking about. So all of these people have been stuck under NDA being told things that they know is going to set off the community, but not allowed to tell people - and they've taken a hell of a lot of flak, hate, and rage over it. I don't blame them for breaking down a bit. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 400	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:07:00 - [35] - Quote Quote: Kain also stepped down when did kain step down, link? Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Prime League champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 145	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:08:00 - [36] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Anyone remember the betamax and Jenza scamming? Actually, no I don't. CPM news here is much much quieter than CSM on Eve-O side. I'm always wondering what's going on. This is the first time I remember seeing a post in GenDis which informed me about something relevant in the CPM. Usually on Eve-O side I hear things via a good blog; I don't have a good dust blog to read (yet? ever?) Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2499	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:14:00 - [37] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: TBH after that post he made towards Kane yesterday I am not surprised. EDIT: link to the post https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2157482#post2157482 I would guess that while that might be a part of it, it's probably not the sole reason. I imagine there was more drama behind the doors of the NDA. If you're correct, I'd say that certainly doesn't bode well for us. What manner of act or information might set aflame an old merc like Nova Knife? More that I imagine all the CPM members are under a lot of stress. As much as people bash on them, they actually do work hard at what they do for nothing in return, and recently they've been scapegoats for a huge amount of rage. It was my understanding that initially CPM0 was intended just for a few months of work to organise the initial elections. This has, obviously, gone on for a lot longer than that. The cynics amongst us would accuse them of attempting to extend their terms for selfish power reasons or whatever but I think that anyone who believes that has no idea what they're talking about. So all of these people have been stuck under NDA being told things that they know is going to set off the community, but not allowed to tell people - and they've taken a hell of a lot of flak, hate, and rage over it. I don't blame them for breaking down a bit. nah I got to go with the negative theory this time. when things looks good ccp gives us horrible news, when things look great then we get average news. I'm not sure what we will get when all the signs point to bad news.....but i'm sure most of us won't be playing dust after we here it.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 8506	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:16:00 - [38] - Quote So if that was enough to remove Nova Knife, how is CPM Iron Wolf Saber still employed? GG your thread was very EZ Call me names if you'd like, but what I'm saying is still true. -HAND
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2713	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:23:00 - [39] - Quote Atiim wrote: So if that was enough to remove Nova Knife, how is CPM Iron Wolf Saber still employed? He must have raged internally in a meeting or something. This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
Moorian Flav 269	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:29:00 - [40] - Quote Am I missing something? CCP already said they have no content updates planned; merely slight balancing and minor bug fixes that won't require a client update. Therefore, what purpose could the CPM1 possibly serve with the very, very limited scope the CPM1 is left with? I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13291	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:29:00 - [41] - Quote calisk galern wrote: nah I got to go with the negative theory this time. Of course you're going with the negative outlook. There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 8510	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:33:00 - [42] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: calisk galern wrote: nah I got to go with the negative theory this time. Of course you're going with the negative outlook. There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so. When you look at the actions of the human race, can you really blame him? Official Atiim Feedback Thread -HAND
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13291	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:35:00 - [43] - Quote Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: calisk galern wrote: nah I got to go with the negative theory this time. Of course you're going with the negative outlook. There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so. When you look at the actions of the human race, can you really blame him? I'm not blaming him. I'm simply commenting that the tendency towards the negative outlook of people who they've scapegoated is the norm. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Sirpidey Adtur Aloren Foundations 132	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:47:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Unfortunately as you said much of the context is private, and due to the NDA we can not share that publicly. CCP still has full confidence in the CPM as an institution, which is why we are still planning to have elections for CPM 1. I wish I could trust anything a CCP dev says. https://pay.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/22td7a/storm_on_the_horizon_wod_appears_to_be_cancelled/cgq9los This proves that CCP either will lie straight to our face, or does not communicate amongst itself. Either way, we cannot trust your word.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2499	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:51:00 - [45] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: calisk galern wrote: nah I got to go with the negative theory this time. Of course you're going with the negative outlook. There's an inherent tendency amongst the unwashed masses to do so. When you look at the actions of the human race, can you really blame him? I'm not blaming him. I'm simply commenting that the tendency towards the negative outlook of people who they've scapegoated is the norm. i'm actually basing that on past experiences so far, if in the past ccp had com through on hype, lived up to their word, and did things such in the way to deserve the benefit of the doubt they would have mine, but they have not done anything to earn that. the only reliable thing to come out of ccp so far is that what ever you expect you will probably get two levels lower.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13294	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:07:00 - [46] - Quote calisk galern wrote: i'm actually basing that on past experiences so far, if in the past ccp had com through on hype, lived up to their word, and did things such in the way to deserve the benefit of the doubt they would have mine, but they have not done anything to earn that. the only reliable thing to come out of ccp so far is that what ever you expect you will probably get two levels lower. Your initial post was saying you were taking the negative view of the CPM, but here we're talking about the CPM. I'm a little confused here. These are separate entities. How are you basing your negative view of the CPM off past experiences with CCP? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Dexter Peabody Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 115	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:10:00 - [47] - Quote rip in peace m8
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2405	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:12:00 - [48] - Quote Tech De Ra wrote: Quote: Kain also stepped down when did kain step down, link? No public announcement, there would be too much fanfare. This would cause more forum bans than the number from Fan Fest Legion announcement. Let's just hope that whatever happened yesterday was recorded so we can find out what happened in 5 years Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 345	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:12:00 - [49] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. Did he say no when the zippers went down or something? Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2499	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:15:00 - [50] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Your initial post was saying you were taking the negative view of the CPM, but here we're talking about the CPM. I'm a little confused here. These are separate entities. How are you basing your negative view of the CPM off past experiences with CCP? apparently I didn't quote who i was responding to. Spectral Clone wrote: This doesnt look good at all... CCP is up to something fishy. this as well IgniteableAura wrote: Something like no character transfers to Legion, even though they are saying we can have them. @those referencing the post from NK to Kain, no matter how badly he scorned Kain, they can't really punish him for that sort of thing as I have seen far WORSE things from other members of the CPM community. Anyone remember the betamax and Jenza scamming? OR how some people think IWS is a giant troll. Its likely a much bigger NDA issue with the either Dust or Legion. Don't forget there is already one other CPM member who left of his own accord due to the legion announcement and CCPs lack of desire to heed the CPM warnings. Kain also stepped down, so thats 3 CPMs out of the picture. Whatever this NDA'd news is, its likely to be a big bombshell. Think about it, KAIN stepping down from a huge position because of RL issues? More or less it sounds like "whats the point of CPM"

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2721	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:16:00 - [51] - Quote Spartan MK420 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. Did he say no when the zippers went down or something? Probably something like this. Strongly related to the transition to Legion and/or shut down of Dust servers. This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
hello jpg Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:44:00 - [52] - Quote Okay guys, I just got insider information that Nova Knife was removed from the CPM not due to the Kain QQ debacle, but something else... This is pretty alarming. Ban me up scotty!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13302	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:46:00 - [53] - Quote hello jpg wrote: Okay guys, I just got insider information that Nova Knife was removed from the CPM not due to the Kain QQ debacle, but something else... This is pretty alarming. Ban me up scotty! I give you a 2/10 for effort. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1081	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:51:00 - [54] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. So you're cutting people loose for incompetence now? Are you sure you want to go down that road, CCP? Can't say I'm all that surprised.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1846	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:13:00 - [55] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: Am I missing something? CCP already said they have no content updates planned; merely slight balancing and minor bug fixes that won't require a client update. Therefore, what purpose could the CPM1 possibly serve with the very, very limited scope the CPM1 is left with? The CPM is giving advice on Legion. CCP Z mentioned that there wouldn't be more information on the Progression Changes until the CPM gave input about it. So for DUST 514 as it exists on the PS3, CPM1 would have little point but for DUST 514 as it will exist on PC there is reason. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 6	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:13:00 - [56] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. posting in a dev Rage Thread.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 680	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:33:00 - [57] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: hello jpg wrote: Okay guys, I just got insider information that Nova Knife was removed from the CPM not due to the Kain QQ debacle, but something else... This is pretty alarming. Ban me up scotty! I give you a 2/10 for effort. 2/10, seconded. Obvious is obvious.
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1041	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:34:00 - [58] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Effective immediately, CPM member Nova Knife has been removed from the Council of Planetary Management. He has been removed for incompetence and an inability to professionally and diplomatically work with other council members and CCP. shots fired CCP... shots fired In Rust We Trust Vherokior Warrior My Honor is for the Republic
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1510	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:36:00 - [59] - Quote My guess: He wasn't down for licking boot and sucking **** like the rest of your little lapdog squad. You've already proven you don't fire for incompetence due to anyone at the shanghai branch even being employed. CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
LittleCuteBunny 525	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:47:00 - [60] - Quote Appointed by the players... removed by the corporation. How does he CPM represent the players ? Graveyard 514



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