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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.05.16 11:54:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:It IS the end of the week ffs.
The Jungian wrote:With CCP, dont count in WORKING days. End of the week probably means Sunday night.
Well, the announcement is up though. It's just nothing new.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
R.I.P MAG.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
884
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Posted - 2014.05.16 12:28:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Jungian wrote:"Racism" towards game developers? Seriously...what the ****? Are these forums so liberal and twisted now that race cards are being pulled to simply end threads so the haters wont dare to be branded by association?
dont go complete morons CCP. youve been aspiring quite well but its time to stop. Erm... Ludvig Enraga wrote:commit adequate resources (not CCP Shanghai - spend real money by paying real game developers)
You assume too much. If Dust or Legion was developed by CCP Atlanta, CCP New York, CCP Paris, CCP Iceland, etc, the reactions would still be the same because the results were simply not there. In that dude's post, I did not see a racial slur of any kind. He only mentioned where their office was. Here is a newsflash, it does not matter where an office is located at in this world as most companies are multicultural and international anyway. What folks, want to see is results. This game was developed in Shanghai, which your own company admitted was not a very good game. See link here: http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/3/5677566/Dust-514-project-legion-reaction.
You are attempting to deflect criticism away from your poor handling of the announcement of Legion.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
1937
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Posted - 2014.05.16 14:04:00 -
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The Jungian wrote:That they choose to promote a 1 year anniversary with OMEGA BOOSTERS says it all in the wake of all their none existing apologies for not saying a word of DUST at the DUST keynote. How much "EA" can CCP aspire to become?
we should also point out that they're celebrating the one year anniversary a month after they cancelled the game one year into a 10 year development plan.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2014.05.16 14:25:00 -
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My feelings on CCP now
And this comes from a fan, which makes it all so damn shameful.
CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: RND_Jungian
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
1939
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Posted - 2014.05.16 14:34:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvaTg1kd82E
am i the only one around here who gives a **** about the rules?
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4641
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Posted - 2014.05.16 15:30:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alex Kaidou wrote:I heard a friend say we will see 1.9 but from what i'm reading there will be no 1.9 so the question is .Does CCP realize the reason that most of us are playing is because we wanted to see the game evolve ( new gear , more maps , more game modes etc) So will someone please verify this for me . Was 1.8 our last "new" update ?By the way , i hope CCP is keeping track of how much good players are becoming less active , I'm seeing a lot of newbies . Information on the nature of going forward will be posted very soon. IWS you told us to be excited about Dust's birthday, and we got a booster. That's it. Why do you even bother anymore? I don't remember promising anything and if I set expectations around it would been that high of a bar; I made my suggestion and logistics wasn't there to get it out in time so the fallback of the booster was used since it was something everyone can use. There was other options but only a smaller portion of players would have been able to enjoy it. It gets really hard to suggest things that everyone can enjoy these days easily without over empowering or throwing away items to lose more value. I am sure the lot of you are tired of quafe suits and black eagles.
You say this like it excuses you, and yet all you're doing is admitting to peddling more empty promises.
At the very least you could have said: "Sorry, what I wanted and/or expected wasn't able to be implemented."
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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lrian Locust
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
443
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Posted - 2014.05.16 21:00:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:CCP seems to think soon = some time within the month.
Now you're being too kind...
I think CCP works in a parallel universe, where "monthly updates" means "twice a year". |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
15061
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Posted - 2014.05.16 21:08:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alex Kaidou wrote:I heard a friend say we will see 1.9 but from what i'm reading there will be no 1.9 so the question is .Does CCP realize the reason that most of us are playing is because we wanted to see the game evolve ( new gear , more maps , more game modes etc) So will someone please verify this for me . Was 1.8 our last "new" update ?By the way , i hope CCP is keeping track of how much good players are becoming less active , I'm seeing a lot of newbies . Information on the nature of going forward will be posted very soon. IWS you told us to be excited about Dust's birthday, and we got a booster. That's it. Why do you even bother anymore? I don't remember promising anything and if I set expectations around it would been that high of a bar; I made my suggestion and logistics wasn't there to get it out in time so the fallback of the booster was used since it was something everyone can use. There was other options but only a smaller portion of players would have been able to enjoy it. It gets really hard to suggest things that everyone can enjoy these days easily without over empowering or throwing away items to lose more value. I am sure the lot of you are tired of quafe suits and black eagles. You say this like it excuses you, and yet all you're doing is admitting to peddling more empty promises. At the very least you could have said: "Sorry, what I wanted and/or expected wasn't able to be implemented."
No but I am being accused of saying something along the lines
"Hey guys! We got something awesome planned for the first birthday."
When the truth has been I been excessively rather quite over the fact because I simply didn't know anything I don't try to hype on anything unless there is something to hype upon; thus no basis no hype.
The birthday event was so last minute to the point when I meant that the logistics couldn't even handle the suggestion I had and all this happened well after anyone asked me anything about the birthday event.
Maybe when the assumption I am a ccp cheerleader stops these wild accusations would stop popping up.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Travis Stanush
GunFall Mobilization
172
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:29:00 -
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I don't remember promising anything and if I set expectations around it would been that high of a bar; I made my suggestion and logistics wasn't there to get it out in time so the fallback of the booster was used since it was something everyone can use. There was other options but only a smaller portion of players would have been able to enjoy it. It gets really hard to suggest things that everyone can enjoy these days easily without over empowering or throwing away items to lose more value. I am sure the lot of you are tired of quafe suits and black eagles.[/quote]
You say this like it excuses you, and yet all you're doing is admitting to peddling more empty promises.
At the very least you could have said: "Sorry, what I wanted and/or expected wasn't able to be implemented."[/quote]
No but I am being accused of saying something along the lines
"Hey guys! We got something awesome planned for the first birthday."
When the truth has been I been excessively rather quite over the fact because I simply didn't know anything I don't try to hype on anything unless there is something to hype upon; thus no basis no hype.
The birthday event was so last minute to the point when I meant that the logistics couldn't even handle the suggestion I had and all this happened well after anyone asked me anything about the birthday event.
Maybe when the assumption I am a ccp cheerleader stops these wild accusations would stop popping up.[/quote]
Just curious why was it last minute?
It's not like it was a suprise...
No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
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Morbid Faith 9
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:38:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alex Kaidou wrote:I heard a friend say we will see 1.9 but from what i'm reading there will be no 1.9 so the question is .Does CCP realize the reason that most of us are playing is because we wanted to see the game evolve ( new gear , more maps , more game modes etc) So will someone please verify this for me . Was 1.8 our last "new" update ?By the way , i hope CCP is keeping track of how much good players are becoming less active , I'm seeing a lot of newbies . Information on the nature of going forward will be posted very soon. You say that but I don't believe you. Why not give a hard date on the news this isn't a real world event and CCP's ability to be hush hush about it is killing the game we want answers but all we get is soon. And soon isn't enough anymore Because we're putting together the announcement. IWS isn't falsely promising anything here (as I've also confirmed in other threads). We're hoping for something by the end of this week. You better think real good about what you are gonna say at the end of the week. People are tired of lies and people are tired for CCP selling them out. Dust is still able to become a big game through advertisement by the word of mouth first and foremost, but this is only possible if the community does not see you as a traitor (not you in particular Saberwing, all of CCP). If you can commit to game development (not backstabbing DUST community and promising us LEGION that is yet to happen and likely not belonging on consoles) and commit adequate resources (not CCP Shanghai - spend real money by paying real game developers), we will stick with you (by now you know which segment of the community I am referring to as 'we' - that's right: those that stopped playing) and help you make your game an economic success. Keep lying to your base, short changing us, pushing your gimmicks and backstabbing us and this game will sink (Legion included). One more bullshit vague post from Developers and you will dig yourself even deeper (who knew it's even possible). I hope I am clear.
Legion was the plan all along. Notice how CCP never once ran marketing campaigns for Dust514. They never cared about Dust. It was just a glorified BETA they were making money off to fund their REAL game. Get over it. |
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pseudosnipre
Fatal Absolution
754
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Posted - 2014.05.16 23:04:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Maybe when the assumption I am a ccp cheerleader stops these wild accusations would stop popping up. This was the logical result of a year of community trust placed in NDA-bound CPMs; hints were given, expectations rose, updates and events under-delivered, and patience was preached.
I don't envy the position you find yourself in...but heavy is the crown you wear.
If you could transcend the criticism and cheerleading accusations, how would you constructively use the extra time?
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
BitterVet the turkey says GOML GOML GOML
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
1888
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Posted - 2014.05.17 01:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alex Kaidou wrote:I heard a friend say we will see 1.9 but from what i'm reading there will be no 1.9 so the question is .Does CCP realize the reason that most of us are playing is because we wanted to see the game evolve ( new gear , more maps , more game modes etc) So will someone please verify this for me . Was 1.8 our last "new" update ?By the way , i hope CCP is keeping track of how much good players are becoming less active , I'm seeing a lot of newbies . Information on the nature of going forward will be posted very soon.
Not sure if anyone has gotten to this yet, but....... TM.
Betty White, the worlds hottest grandma.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
702
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Posted - 2014.05.17 03:36:00 -
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Know what the best part of CCP is?
Yea neither do I. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1086
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Posted - 2014.05.17 06:36:00 -
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Morbid Faith 9 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Information on the nature of going forward will be posted very soon.
You say that but I don't believe you. Why not give a hard date on the news this isn't a real world event and CCP's ability to be hush hush about it is killing the game we want answers but all we get is soon. And soon isn't enough anymore Because we're putting together the announcement. IWS isn't falsely promising anything here (as I've also confirmed in other threads). We're hoping for something by the end of this week. You better think real good about what you are gonna say at the end of the week. People are tired of lies and people are tired for CCP selling them out. Dust is still able to become a big game through advertisement by the word of mouth first and foremost, but this is only possible if the community does not see you as a traitor (not you in particular Saberwing, all of CCP). If you can commit to game development (not backstabbing DUST community and promising us LEGION that is yet to happen and likely not belonging on consoles) and commit adequate resources (not CCP Shanghai - spend real money by paying real game developers), we will stick with you (by now you know which segment of the community I am referring to as 'we' - that's right: those that stopped playing) and help you make your game an economic success. Keep lying to your base, short changing us, pushing your gimmicks and backstabbing us and this game will sink (Legion included). One more bullshit vague post from Developers and you will dig yourself even deeper (who knew it's even possible). I hope I am clear. Legion was the plan all along. Notice how CCP never once ran marketing campaigns for Dust514. They never cared about Dust. It was just a glorified BETA they were making money off to fund their REAL game. Get over it.
I sorta got. I don't play anymore - does not mean I won't because I will play to stay in touch with my corp, since KEQ afaik has not made plans to move en bulk to a different game platform - so I am past emotional outbursts. My post was a call to CCP's sanity: LEGION will be a failure - no one will play it on PC (that's just as far as I can gauge). I think their marketing research is super weak. DUST was something that at least had a following - it's both odd and promising enough to win some hearts - but this is only on consoles where this sorta ambitious indi spirit is rare. PC on the other hand is full of failure indi projects and CCP will just add another one to be burried in the pile of the availabe PC alternatives.
If CCP played their cards right they would have invested in DUST and still can. They are not poor and can afford to hire PROFESSIONAL CONSOLE developers (?am I being racist here again) and can afford a real ad campaign. For a game to be successful it has to be professional - indi stuff is attractive only if it blossoms into a real professional product.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alex Kaidou wrote:I heard a friend say we will see 1.9 but from what i'm reading there will be no 1.9 so the question is .Does CCP realize the reason that most of us are playing is because we wanted to see the game evolve ( new gear , more maps , more game modes etc) So will someone please verify this for me . Was 1.8 our last "new" update ?By the way , i hope CCP is keeping track of how much good players are becoming less active , I'm seeing a lot of newbies . Information on the nature of going forward will be posted very soon.
That kind of hit my ears wrong , the nature of going forward. Sounds like youre gonna transfer the game to sony and be done with updates. But i could be wrong. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2078
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:53:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alex Kaidou wrote:I heard a friend say we will see 1.9 but from what i'm reading there will be no 1.9 so the question is .Does CCP realize the reason that most of us are playing is because we wanted to see the game evolve ( new gear , more maps , more game modes etc) So will someone please verify this for me . Was 1.8 our last "new" update ?By the way , i hope CCP is keeping track of how much good players are becoming less active , I'm seeing a lot of newbies . Information on the nature of going forward will be posted very soon.
Like anybody cares about what you have to say.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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prometheus actual
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
105
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:00:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:
You better think real good about what you are gonna say at the end of the week. People are tired of lies and people are tired for CCP selling them out.
Dust is still able to become a big game through advertisement by the word of mouth first and foremost, but this is only possible if the community does not see you as a traitor (not you in particular Saberwing, all of CCP).
If you can commit to game development (not backstabbing DUST community and promising us LEGION that is yet to happen and likely not belonging on consoles) and commit adequate resources (not CCP Shanghai - spend real money by paying real game developers), we will stick with you (by now you know which segment of the community I am referring to as 'we' - that's right: those that stopped playing) and help you make your game an economic success. Keep lying to your base, short changing us, pushing your gimmicks and backstabbing us and this game will sink (Legion included).
One more bullshit vague post from Developers and you will dig yourself even deeper (who knew it's even possible). I hope I am clear.
This post is totally uncool. People may be "tired of lies" (of which I don't believe there are any, particularly in relation to anything I've said), but I am tired of inherent racism geared towards developers in Shanghai. We have an amazing team over here and I'm incredibly proud of them and their work. ^ This is not a PR statement or a "vague post".
game devs are a race?
http://i.imgur.com/FBbWSDN.gif
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Orca Amsel
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
679
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:09:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Jungian wrote:"Racism" towards game developers? Seriously...what the ****? Are these forums so liberal and twisted now that race cards are being pulled to simply end threads so the haters wont dare to be branded by association?
dont go complete morons CCP. youve been aspiring quite well but its time to stop. Erm... Ludvig Enraga wrote:commit adequate resources (not CCP Shanghai - spend real money by paying real game developers)
I fail to see the racism here unless game devs suddenly became a race. It seems like he was just pointing out the team at the shanghai office are terrible at their jobs and should not be considered real developers. I would not consider continuing to employ the dust team to be a good use of resources since they have done nothing but delivery terrible broken content for the past two years.
Fire CCP Shanghai.
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Anthany sandifer The2nd
2
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:09:00 -
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....
https://dust514.com/recruit/nHtblj/ i go there
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Jason Punk
DUST University
Ivy League
287
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Posted - 2014.05.17 20:39:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:
I sorta got. I don't play anymore - does not mean I won't because I will play to stay in touch with my corp, since KEQ afaik has not made plans to move en bulk to a different game platform - so I am past emotional outbursts. My post was a call to CCP's sanity: LEGION will be a failure - no one will play it on PC (that's just as far as I can gauge). I think their marketing research is super weak. DUST was something that at least had a following - it's both odd and promising enough to win some hearts - but this is only on consoles where this sorta ambitious indi spirit is rare. PC on the other hand is full of failure indi projects and CCP will just add another one to be burried in the pile of the availabe PC alternatives.
If CCP played their cards right they would have invested in DUST and still can. They are not poor and can afford to hire PROFESSIONAL CONSOLE developers (?am I being racist here again) and can afford a real ad campaign. For a game to be successful it has to be professional - indi stuff is attractive only if it blossoms into a real professional product.
I think I can agree with some of the concerns here. The PC is a rather competitive and revolving market with games of almost every flavor coming and going, but I personally wouldn't be worried about the game surviving based on this market alone. The game itself had both a very strong, albeit comically cynical, community along with a steadily improving release and content structure. The game was going along rather fine and I think most people would have been mutually ecstatic if expectations for new content and future improvements were lined up for the summer. Player participation was gradually on the rise and if the game had even teased a few minutely grander ideas like the market, basic PvE, or ship/platform boarding mechanics I have no doubt that the growth would have become far more exponential over time.
Dust had (and technically still could have) the potential to achieve critical mass, however the past few weeks have been a summary execution of any of this. I summarized this in a post: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2149970#post2149970
It reminds me of some of the later French Revolutions where very simple measures lined out both by players and leadership to resolve a perceived serious problem fell into chaos because of human tragedy like vision, ambition, and hubris....
Truly unfortunate to see such great news become something utterly terrible. Furthermore Comments like the claims of racism or disdain and disgust of player behavior does not settle riots. Humility and self-sacrifice is what saves a relationship, not short snippy remarks...even when we appear to be wrong. You damaged that relationship CCP, it will never be the same as it once was. But if you want us to be apart of you're future and what's more, see yourselves and these ideas for games grow, you need to accept your own flaws and own up to your mistakes. Accept this and make it heartfelt, and after lets all adapt and overcome. That's why we played Dust 514 anyhow.
"Berfore I go into a fleet com, I pour libations to the gods of lag and server stability."
~ Alex Bruneau
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Jason Punk
DUST University
Ivy League
288
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Posted - 2014.05.18 14:35:00 -
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"Berfore I go into a fleet com, I pour libations to the gods of lag and server stability."
~ Alex Bruneau
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Jacques Cayton II
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
796
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Posted - 2014.05.18 16:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alex Kaidou wrote:I heard a friend say we will see 1.9 but from what i'm reading there will be no 1.9 so the question is .Does CCP realize the reason that most of us are playing is because we wanted to see the game evolve ( new gear , more maps , more game modes etc) So will someone please verify this for me . Was 1.8 our last "new" update ?By the way , i hope CCP is keeping track of how much good players are becoming less active , I'm seeing a lot of newbies . Information on the nature of going forward will be posted very soon.
Lies
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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MUDFLAPS McGILLICUTTY
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
281
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Posted - 2014.05.19 01:34:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Because we're putting together the announcement. IWS isn't falsely promising anything here (as I've also confirmed in other threads). We're hoping for something by the end of this week.
And that's why I'm done with CCP games... You're ass-backward and always have been.
It's like you just start driving a car and once you've traveled 100 miles you start trying to figure out which direction your destination is, and then act surprised and confused when all of your passengers are pissed that you've gone 2 hours in the wrong direction.
- Defraud Dust 514 community with a bait and switch keynote speech. (Glad I didn't fly to Iceland for that, LOL)
- Zero details about Dust's future (presumably because there isn't one)
- More audacious promises that you can't (don't) keep about a game that is likely years in the future.
- Defraud community further by continuing to push AUR sales for months with full knowledge that this game is unsupported.
- Continued response to community's questions with promises to address it "Soon".
Anyone who has been around this community more than a few months knows that "Soon" has a 95% chance of being "Never"
CCP (Can't Complete Projects)
I know you've lost a lot of money from this ordeal and hurt potential future performance. It's well deserved, given your behavior.
"LASER-FOCUSED"
R.I.P. Dust 5/14 (We Finally Figured Out What it Means!)
90 Day AUR Refunds! Call 1-800-345-SONY
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
486
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Posted - 2014.05.20 11:42:00 -
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So it is rattati taking over for a while :) Hope you can make good test cases and improve the game in Legion then! :P
Story of your life
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End is Near
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2014.05.25 16:12:00 -
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More is better..... |
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