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Kain Spero Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3529	Posted - 2014.05.13 15:45:00 - [1] - Quote As some of you may be aware I am winding down my in-game activities for the time being in order to focus my efforts on RL. Now that said I will also take this opportunity to focus my efforts on finishing out my CPM0 term as well. As this time I have no plans to run for CPM1, but I have a few goals that I will continue to press for moving forward. First, I will continue to push CCP to be open with you all about future Dust 514 development. With recent discussions I feel that CCP is working actively towards this goal. I will be reserved in my expectations, but I feel that with the right direction CCP can improve not only the Dust experience but use that improved experience to the benefit of Project Legion as well. Even if the bandwidth avail to Dust has been decreased there is so much that can still be accomplished. Second, in order to bring clarity to the future I will continue working with the community on the #greenlightlegion campaign so that all of the players can have confidence that Duster experience in New Eden will have a future for many years and decades to come. This will also include working with CCP to retrospectively look at the Project Legion announcement, acknowledge the mistakes, and learn where to improve moving forward so that transparency, openness, and a strong relationship with the community can become a mantra that CCP lives by. Third, I will continue to advocate for the CPM1 elections to be held ASAP. In my opinion this was our primary mandate as CPM-and while the white papers were a great step in that direction I cannot and will not rest until you are able to cast your votes for your representatives. The Dust 514 community is here and deserves a voice and a chance to continue the process of building a working relationship with CCP and the community. Forth, I had some very important conversations with players like Aeon about the need for the ISD to have a presence in Dust and far into the future. These conversations turned into impromptu face-to-face discussions with CCP Rouge, CCP TIme Runner, and CCP Saberwing that then led to some positive movements in the Sunday summit meeting. I see many areas where ISD or ISD-like institutions can help be a force multiplier for both the community and for CCP. Players have been trying for years to establish an ISD presence in Dust and it's time that their dedication and hard work be taken seriously. I will do what I can to identify any barriers blocking this from moving forward and work with CCP to not only identify solutions but act boldly on those solutions moving forward. Last, I am committed to advocating for the preservation of Dust 514 players' financial and time investments into New Eden and will continue to press CCP to be open an honest about the transfer process moving forward with Project Legion. My personal feelings are that all aspects of our characters should be preserved as much as possible in a way that doesn't hinder Game Design in realizing the vision of Dust 514 through Project Legion. As part of this future vision I will also continue to advocate strongly that throughout the development process of Project Legion that CCP always consider a future on the PS4. One of the reasons I decided become CPM was that I fell in love with this community and I wanted to see it have an elected voice. What happened with Legion at FanFest broke my heart, but sticking my head in the sand or telling CCP to shove it does nothing but satisfy base desires for recompense. There is more work to do than ever for the CPM and that will be my focus. Please understand that actions in-game are just that and my task as a CPM councilor is something I approach as a real life task as David. Whether you love me or hate me in-game I will advocate for you as best I can and push forward to continue to make CPM 1 a reality and ensure that the Dust 514 community is heard. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14992	Posted - 2014.05.13 15:58:00 - [2] - Quote It was an honor and great experience working with you. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Kain Spero Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3532	Posted - 2014.05.13 16:06:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It was an honor and great experience working with you. You as well. I only wish the community could truly understand the invaluable asset that you have been to the community through CPM as our secretary. 90% of what you have done will never be seen by the community, but I have seen your hard work and will do my best to honor what you have done for us all. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1812	Posted - 2014.05.13 16:42:00 - [4] - Quote Good luck with your real life endeavors mate. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1288	Posted - 2014.05.13 16:56:00 - [5] - Quote My conversations both Kane both digital and real have always been productive. RL should always be your main priority big I hope your still around for a while to come o7. CPM1 Candidate CEO of DUST University
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1218	Posted - 2014.05.13 17:07:00 - [6] - Quote support the #greenlightlegion campaign! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=161542 Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? twitter.com/dustreports
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 2430	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:24:00 - [7] - Quote Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?)
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2520	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:28:00 - [8] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: (Shots fired?) Shots fired confirmed. Dispatching police LAVs to intercept. (woop woop!) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9629	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:34:00 - [9] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) OH SNAP Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Zaria Min Deir Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 653	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:36:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) OH SNAP Much snap. Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2934	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:50:00 - [11] - Quote . CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2380	Posted - 2014.05.13 19:18:00 - [12] - Quote Just a reminder, this is the Council's Chamber, not the War Room. Please keep such rhetoric and chicanery over there. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2630	Posted - 2014.05.13 19:39:00 - [13] - Quote Wow. Just wow. This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
Militia Locus Grenade Militia BPO's 39	Posted - 2014.05.13 19:43:00 - [14] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) Really poor on your part to call him out publicly. That being said, well done. You confirmed what we all suspected. That Dave the CPM and Kane the player are the same person.
Trial Mix Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2014.05.13 19:46:00 - [15] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) WAS CONVINCED ALL CPM WERE PUSSIES NOVA IS MY HERO NOVA FOR CPM1!
Kain Spero 3544	Posted - 2014.05.13 21:15:00 - [16] - Quote I'm sorry Nova that you took my post in that light. We can continue to discuss your personal issues with me in private. As far as I am concerned councilors are always blue with each other whether at FanFest or anywhere else. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1511	Posted - 2014.05.13 21:32:00 - [17] - Quote YES!!!! Cutting to the core in a way that only a Nova Knife can. I love it! "I've made a huge mistake." -G.O.B. Bluth
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1671	Posted - 2014.05.13 21:45:00 - [18] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: I'm sorry Nova that you took my post in that light. We can continue to discuss your personal issues with me in private. As far as I am concerned councillors are always blue with each other whether at FanFest or anywhere else. Are these "personal issues"? Seems to me like we should know who the people representing us are. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 629	Posted - 2014.05.13 22:01:00 - [19] - Quote :: Slowly Backs Away :: How 'bout them Tanks?
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2524	Posted - 2014.05.13 22:10:00 - [20] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: How 'bout them Tanks? Militarization of the police force is a huge concern in society today. Woop woop LAVs are more than enough equipment for the police to do their jobs. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1672	Posted - 2014.05.13 22:21:00 - [21] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Militarization of the police force is a huge concern in society today. Woop woop LAVs are more than enough equipment for the police to do their jobs. Can I request that, should you be elected, you push for LAV variants, one of which being Woop Woop Lav's? I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1289	Posted - 2014.05.13 22:47:00 - [22] - Quote Ok. I know I'm not privy to the internal politics of the CPM but that seemed overly harsh Nova and certainly not something that should be aired publicly without imternal dialogue. Maybe Kane should've run the wording past the rest of you first but I personally got no great sense of self-aggrandisement from the OP. Merely that someone was stepping down for personall reasons. Perhaps Kane merits the tongue lashing, maybe he doesn't. I've not worked with on a daily basis as you have Nova. But dragging the talk and tone of The War Room to The Council Chamber isn't really very seemly. Just my opinion you understand. CPM1 Candidate CEO of DUST University
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1672	Posted - 2014.05.13 22:59:00 - [23] - Quote It pains me that I have to take the time to clarify a few things here, but such is necessary in cases like this. First and foremost I'd like to echo Nova in that Kane's original post is indeed an excellent summary of the focal points of the council's current work. That said, the message Kane delivered should have been delivered as a group statement, rather than a personal one, as it inappropriately carried the implication that Kane was somehow alone in advocating for such things. For this I take personal responsibility. As CPM0 Chair, I should have worked with the group and produced a statement along these lines earlier, instead of allowing one of the council members to take personal credit and warp the message (whether intentional or not). Secondly, regarding the claim that Kane's proposals were somehow selfish in nature, the same criticism could just as easily be leveled at me for advocating for Faction Warfare fixes given my history with that particular sub-community. The reality is that all proposals that are good for the game as a whole will align with personal interests of council members from time to time, and this both normal and perfectly acceptable. Lastly, while anyone (including Nova Knife) is entitled to an extremely cynical view of Kane's motivations, there was absolutely nothing constructive or respectful about lashing out at Kane publicly here, except for (ironically) to get an equal amount of kudos from gawkers who delight in controversy. We're all human of course, and under an immense amount of fatigue and stress. However, both the original statement and the subsequent response here represent poor judgement on behalf of the council as a whole, and for that I take full responsibility as well. I've spoken again to the group about the importance of teamwork especially during tough times, and I can only hope that prospective CPM1 candidates can learn from our mistakes and behave more professionally in the future.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 789	Posted - 2014.05.13 23:03:00 - [24] - Quote popcorn machine explodes RDV flies in a bigger popcorn machine Enjoys EVE, Still plays DUST, will play LEGION. stfu already.
Appia Nappia 687	Posted - 2014.05.14 00:03:00 - [25] - Quote I enjoy watching many posts just disappear from this thread. Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 790	Posted - 2014.05.14 00:15:00 - [26] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: I enjoy watching many posts just disappear from this thread. Was wondering why I ran out of popcorn, the RDV was supposed to bring more. Enjoys EVE, Still plays DUST, will play LEGION. stfu already.

CCP Blowout C C P C C P Alliance 343	Posted - 2014.05.14 06:09:00 - [27] - Quote And I thought I was the forum troll.

Tallen Ellecon 1923	Posted - 2014.05.14 06:33:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Blowout wrote: And I thought I was the forum troll. I don't even know what you are?

CCP Blowout C C P C C P Alliance 343	Posted - 2014.05.14 06:34:00 - [29] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: CCP Blowout wrote: And I thought I was the forum troll. I don't even know what you are? I am the forum made conscious of itself. I am become death, the destroyer of threads.

SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 751	Posted - 2014.05.14 06:44:00 - [30] - Quote What I got out of this thread: 1. CPM0 were instrumental in pushing for things that needed pushing, and preventing many things that could have gone badly. 2. Kane is as narcissistic as I suspected 3. Nova was right to call him out, but wrong to do so publicly 4. Hans is still a cool dude and I would have his smooth-talking babies Dust/Eve transfers
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood 6076	Posted - 2014.05.14 07:27:00 - [31] - Quote When even the dev calls you out on BS.......... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
smartlayer What The French Red Whines. 136	Posted - 2014.05.14 08:16:00 - [32] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) Word And to Kane Spero : go away in silence
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1293	Posted - 2014.05.14 10:33:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Blowout wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: CCP Blowout wrote: And I thought I was the forum troll. I don't even know what you are? I am the forum made conscious of itself. I am become death, the destroyer of threads. It's a job I guess. CPM1 Candidate CEO of DUST University
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2650	Posted - 2014.05.14 11:17:00 - [34] - Quote Best thread is best. QQ Kane. This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
Dalmont Legrand 416	Posted - 2014.05.14 14:19:00 - [35] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) Sometimes saying is just enough. The best is yet to come CPM1 Candidate
Dalmont Legrand 416	Posted - 2014.05.14 14:21:00 - [36] - Quote Spademan wrote: Kain Spero wrote: I'm sorry Nova that you took my post in that light. We can continue to discuss your personal issues with me in private. As far as I am concerned councillors are always blue with each other whether at FanFest or anywhere else. Are these "personal issues"? Seems to me like we should know who the people representing us are. That is why some debates of candidates are an important part of elections but even there we can fake being what we are in real life and the one who sees the truth in men is the one who really is a man of word. #propstosmartlayer The best is yet to come CPM1 Candidate
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 241	Posted - 2014.05.14 16:27:00 - [37] - Quote Nova knife is a hero of the people. +9001 to that guy.
Ric Barlom 419	Posted - 2014.05.14 16:28:00 - [38] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) Oh no you didn't! God dammit! Boomshakalaka! Who gave out my Monday to Friday phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1210	Posted - 2014.05.14 17:01:00 - [39] - Quote Saberwing's face whilst reading this Ok, that link messed up big time. But I will not alter it. Witness my failure Brb, sister needs the TV
TechMechMeds KLEENEX INC. 3352	Posted - 2014.05.14 17:17:00 - [40] - Quote About that LSD Do not try to peel your skin off! You are not an orange! You are a real human! I only just realised how that may seem! I think I'll leave it actually! Good luck with that RL stuff! Eve Legion FTW!
noobsniper the 2nd Kestrel Mercenary Group 544	Posted - 2014.05.14 17:20:00 - [41] - Quote Kain just got **** on GG no re CEO of Kestrel Mercenary Group Recruitment status: open No scrubs allowed that means you random blueberry
Fiddlestaxp Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 908	Posted - 2014.05.14 19:13:00 - [42] - Quote Cool CPM fight brahs, I too wish to make accusations without being able to back them up with evidence because of an NDA. Does anyone have an NDA I can sign so that I might do so?
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 5110	Posted - 2014.05.14 21:18:00 - [43] - Quote QQ Kane Add me on League! :zMarauder Psn: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
lionshead nebula Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 142	Posted - 2014.05.14 22:43:00 - [44] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Cool CPM fight brahs, I too wish to make accusations without being able to back them up with evidence because of an NDA. Does anyone have an NDA I can sign so that I might do so? I'm at work but I do have one that entitles me to your soul. It's simple dust needs an overlord and I personally believe in CCP Rogue. Bow to CCP Rogue!!
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5640	Posted - 2014.05.15 11:55:00 - [45] - Quote So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct. More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that. Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2708	Posted - 2014.05.15 12:02:00 - [46] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct. More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that. Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. We need the news that Dust 514 will be shut down, and all focus is on getting us into EVE: Legion pre-alpha before the end of the summer. Everything will turn out to be one of the biggest PR failures in the gaming industry otherwise. This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
Kinky Fat Bastard Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.05.15 12:42:00 - [47] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct. More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that. Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. We need the news that Dust 514 will be shut down, and all focus is on getting us into EVE: Legion pre-alpha before the end of the summer. Everything will turn out to be one of the biggest PR failures in the gaming industry otherwise. I'm surprised it hasn't been plastered all over the forums yet.. According to Dust IRC they are pulling the plug in November.
Kinky Fat Bastard Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.05.15 12:43:00 - [48] - Quote Kane - go quietly into the night, do not come to Legion, we don't want you.
Hecarim Van Hohen 1485	Posted - 2014.05.15 12:54:00 - [49] - Quote CCP Blowout wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: CCP Blowout wrote: And I thought I was the forum troll. I don't even know what you are? I am the forum made conscious of itself. I am become death, the destroyer of threads. While your modified Oppenheimer quote is funny you still lose to CCP Logibro on destroyed threads (GÿPn+ƒpâ«n+ƒ)GÿP Set a course for intercourse Gÿ£(n+ƒpâ«n+ƒGÿ£)
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 239	Posted - 2014.05.15 12:59:00 - [50] - Quote Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct. More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that. Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. We need the news that Dust 514 will be shut down, and all focus is on getting us into EVE: Legion pre-alpha before the end of the summer. Everything will turn out to be one of the biggest PR failures in the gaming industry otherwise. I'm surprised it hasn't been plastered all over the forums yet.. According to Dust IRC they are pulling the plug in November. quit playing games with my hart. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
890p COMPLEXITY CLONES 0	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:01:00 - [51] - Quote Quote (Kane - go quietly into the night, do not come to Legion, we don't want you.) Noo he should get a proper burial. The one I have in mind now is similar to what jesus got... he should get enough of attention there slowly drying up on the cross ;) Dies for all his and his friends' sins. its a win-win situation
End is Near Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:13:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Blowout wrote: And I thought I was the forum troll. You don't have enough likes.............scrub. Here have another. Like generator 514.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3341	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:14:00 - [53] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct. More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that. Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. Good news? Well... there are around 7 or so CPM1 candidates who seem to respect each other and are able to carry on intelligent debates without personalities getting in the way.Now if we could only get them elected... Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 533	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:40:00 - [54] - Quote CCP Blowout wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: CCP Blowout wrote: And I thought I was the forum troll. I don't even know what you are? I am the forum made conscious of itself. I am become death, the destroyer of threads. Are you batman The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Zion Shad ZionTCD 2247	Posted - 2014.05.15 15:46:00 - [55] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct. More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that. Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. Good news? Well... there are around 7 or so CPM1 candidates who seem to respect each other and are able to carry on intelligent debates without personalities getting in the way.Now if we could only get them elected... Yea wait until some of them have to be around each other week after week butting heads... They will fight like brothers & sisters after to long. Honeymoons don't last forever Lol sorry Fox I just had to poke Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
D4GG3R Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 255	Posted - 2014.05.15 16:34:00 - [56] - Quote Zaria Min Deir wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) OH SNAP Much snap. Such snap. Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2538	Posted - 2014.05.15 16:39:00 - [57] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct. More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that. Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. Good news? Well... there are around 7 or so CPM1 candidates who seem to respect each other and are able to carry on intelligent debates without personalities getting in the way.Now if we could only get them elected... Yea wait until some of them have to be around each other week after week butting heads... They will fight like brothers & sisters after to long. Honeymoons don't last forever Lol sorry Fox I just had to poke A lot of us have been communicating for months already. :) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 3935	Posted - 2014.05.15 17:05:00 - [58] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) Post of the f*cking year, run for CPM1 I will elect in a heart beat. Try EVE for free Resub to EVE with exciting account
Scheherazade VII SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 509	Posted - 2014.05.15 17:43:00 - [59] - Quote Kane do you really think we want to know that you are leaving? you made this post for yourself. leave in silence. Permanent Beta Tester \|\| MAG Vet, SVER Scrub For Life
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 227	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:03:00 - [60] - Quote What precedence has past CSM (Eve Online Council) public criticism on each other have on a Current CPM council public criticism and removal of CPM Member. My question is CCP Logibro actions are they inline with CSM Council discipline. Nova was removed would a current CSM be removed if same posts were posted. Something to think about.
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2286	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:05:00 - [61] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Snark. If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months". However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However. The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group. I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past. I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good. Just saying. (Shots fired?) Shots fired indeed. Np Master, I got yo back click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4163	Posted - 2014.05.15 23:08:00 - [62] - Quote CCP Blowout wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: CCP Blowout wrote: And I thought I was the forum troll. I don't even know what you are? I am the forum made conscious of itself. I am become death, the destroyer of threads. You smell like Taco.
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5643	Posted - 2014.05.16 02:12:00 - [63] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct. More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that. Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. Good news? Well... there are around 7 or so CPM1 candidates who seem to respect each other and are able to carry on intelligent debates without personalities getting in the way.Now if we could only get them elected... There's a lot of candidates. The list of people who -aren't- running for CPM1 is probably smaller than the list of people who are. Unfortunately for many hopefuls, the white paper sort of nyxes a lot of the candidates because many aren't willing to give out real-life, personal information on top of having a passport. So, to say I'm not relieved about that would be lying. Another thing is that some "candidates" are intending to press their agenda/their corporation/alliances' agenda. This is laughable at worst and insulting at best. Those are the kind of candidates that would do more harm than good for the game, in my opinion. Mostly on the assumption that CCP just wouldn't listen to them but even worse if they actually did. The candidates I'm most interested in seeing become elected are the players who question CCP, the players who ask "why?" whenever someone comes up with some whack job idea. To be honest, being the sarcastic (expletive deleted) that I am I actually have a fond appreciation of the guys who are brutal on the forums in the way that they express this. There is no better candidate than the man (or woman) who can look at an idea beyond it "being cool" and actually question what functionality it would have in the game. That kind of skepticism is what saves the community -AND- the developers from wasted time, money, and assets. I do intend to run myself, but not for the same reasons as your typical candidate. Mostly because their reasons generally amuse me and in some cases, frustrate me. The "candidates" who say that they will "represent everybody" and will "tell CCP like it is" make a mockery of anyone who's called themselves a representative. Beyond it being an outright lie (you can't represent everyone, not with the amorphous amount of personalities and directions in the community) it's certainly not in the interest of the game's health. A lot of things that are necessary for the game's meaningful progression and health are contrary to the community's interests. To elaborate with a terrible example, we all generally want to be powerful (god mode invincibility) in a game but it's generally not a good idea. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
J0LLY R0G3R Legion Alpha Tester 818	Posted - 2014.05.16 02:47:00 - [64] - Quote ^XD if and when elected. I shall do everything opposite of him^ PS4 psn = J0LLYxR0G3R Underscore before and after the x
Patoman Radiant Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 156	Posted - 2014.05.16 03:34:00 - [65] - Quote If someone is a leader of a major corp and stepping down, and saying they won't run in future CPM that is noteworthy. So I am not sure why it wouldn't be mentioned unless someone wanted to sneak away in the night. Of course nova knife stabbed himself in the foot, if he had a issue about Kane taking too much credit he could have taken more credit himself in the current cmp and in the future one. Though now who knows.
Laurent Cazaderon What The French Red Whines. 2296	Posted - 2014.05.16 07:36:00 - [66] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks I need to call Bull when I see it. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great ** that Kane is doing and wants to do" The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is. Just saying. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP ! Ah if only i still gave a crap about any of this, would have been a fun time pitching in. He, though forbidden by the Codex, was a Precursor. He tried the Replication of Chromosomes. He led to an Uprising**
Captain-Awesome Imperfects Negative-Feedback 563	Posted - 2014.05.16 09:21:00 - [67] - Quote I'm only here to say hi to Cazaderon, stupid frenchman never comes to IRC anymore! WHAT DID I DO TO SEND YOU AWAY! > Registered: March 2011 >Role: Logistics Waiting for dust to go on PS4
Dalmont Legrand 425	Posted - 2014.05.17 22:32:00 - [68] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Zion Shad wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct. More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that. Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. Good news? Well... there are around 7 or so CPM1 candidates who seem to respect each other and are able to carry on intelligent debates without personalities getting in the way.Now if we could only get them elected... Yea wait until some of them have to be around each other week after week butting heads... They will fight like brothers & sisters after to long. Honeymoons don't last forever Lol sorry Fox I just had to poke A lot of us have been communicating for months already. :) And then appears guy like me and tells truth about everyone just to grab some popcorn later one and watch it all happening on a big screen. The best is yet to come CPM1 Candidate
Tesfa Alem ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 124	Posted - 2014.05.18 17:46:00 - [69] - Quote Please do nothing of the sort. Resign. Do not focus on Legion, don't concentrate on whats left of DUST 514. Resign. You embarrased yourself enough at fanfest. Resign. You played a major role in locking the community out of PC, laundered money from eve into dust, and have the gall to "permit" the community to play in PC with out any interferece from you. Resign. You were appointed by CCP, and rejected by the players. Resign. You don't represent us, and i think its horrible that CCP think you do. Resign. I do have hopes in legion a new project; but if you are a part of developing it as a stayover from the OLD project. well i, and many others, may be forced to reconsider. Resign. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 397	Posted - 2014.06.06 05:07:00 - [70] - Quote Oops . Sorry, bumped wrong thread. Good read tho.. R.I.P. CPM Nova Knife
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2659	Posted - 2014.06.06 06:44:00 - [71] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Oops . Sorry, bumped wrong thread. Good read tho.. If you want to convince people you accidentally bumped the wrong thread with your reply, be sure to post it, and then edit it. The lack of an edited tag is a sure sign you're a troll. ;) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3353	Posted - 2014.06.06 07:42:00 - [72] - Quote Actually for future reference it's quite possible to edit a post seconds after posting it and not trigger the edited designation. Edit: I can take a video if you wish. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14129	Posted - 2014.06.06 08:20:00 - [73] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Actually for future reference it's quite possible to edit a post seconds after posting it and not trigger the edited designation. Edit: I can take a video if you wish. This is true. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2661	Posted - 2014.06.06 13:25:00 - [74] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Actually for future reference it's quite possible to edit a post seconds after posting it and not trigger the edited designation. Edit: I can take a video if you wish. I'll take your word for it. Even the forums have exploits, I guess. :/ I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 398	Posted - 2014.06.06 21:25:00 - [75] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Smoky Fingers wrote: Oops . Sorry, bumped wrong thread. Good read tho.. If you want to convince people you accidentally bumped the wrong thread with your reply, be sure to post it, and then edit it. The lack of an edited tag is a sure sign you're a troll. ;) i already knew. Im not that stupid sheeesh. R.I.P. CPM Nova Knife

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