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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:05:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Snark.
If you're taking a break or winding down, there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks, Everyone on the CPM has had to take one at some point or another during these last "3 months".
However, I cannot excuse the tone of this post, and I need to call Bull when I see it, whether it is from CCP or one of my fellow councilbros (and I expect them to do the same for me. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do" and makes it seem like he's the only one pushing for any of this or having any of these conversations. This post is a great summary of everything the entire CPM did at fanfest and are doing now, However.
The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position. The unfortunate truth is that the when the real truth is being hidden by the NDA, the only public truth is the one that is spoken. This makes posts like Kane's OP dangerous as it skews the and diminishes (intentionally or not) the efforts and actions of his fellow Councilbros by drawing singular attention to himself and tying these actions to himself, not the whole group.
I wish I could echo IWS' sentiments, and while it is true that during Fanfest and Councilbro meetings everyone is blue.. The rest of the time, that is pretty much null and void. Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is... even if he doesn't fully understand those opinions. This has led to him rapidly changing position on key issues throughout the year, to the point where he even argues against his own points when one turns around and switches perspectives. Many people have accused him of being self-serving and using internal knowledge to benefit himself. These accusations are entirely false. (At least to my knowledge, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise) That being said, I would be lying if I said we as a council have not had to smack down some pretty selfish proposals in the past.
I won't say he hasn't done good stuff as a councilbro, as working together we have all done some excellent stuff. But I will not sit by and let him try to sell himself as a hero of the people when he has been anything but. If he spent less time looking for gratification and trying to seem space-important, he'd be able to do a lot more good.
Just saying.
(Shots fired?)
Shots fired indeed. Np Master, I got yo back
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Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.15 23:08:00 -
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CCP Blowout wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:CCP Blowout wrote:And I thought I was the forum troll. I don't even know what you are? I am the forum made conscious of itself. I am become death, the destroyer of threads.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5643
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:12:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct.
More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that.
Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. Good news? Well... there are around 7 or so CPM1 candidates who seem to respect each other and are able to carry on intelligent debates without personalities getting in the way.Now if we could only get them elected...
There's a lot of candidates. The list of people who -aren't- running for CPM1 is probably smaller than the list of people who are. Unfortunately for many hopefuls, the white paper sort of nyxes a lot of the candidates because many aren't willing to give out real-life, personal information on top of having a passport. So, to say I'm not relieved about that would be lying.
Another thing is that some "candidates" are intending to press their agenda/their corporation/alliances' agenda. This is laughable at worst and insulting at best. Those are the kind of candidates that would do more harm than good for the game, in my opinion. Mostly on the assumption that CCP just wouldn't listen to them but even worse if they actually did.
The candidates I'm most interested in seeing become elected are the players who question CCP, the players who ask "why?" whenever someone comes up with some whack job idea. To be honest, being the sarcastic (expletive deleted) that I am I actually have a fond appreciation of the guys who are brutal on the forums in the way that they express this. There is no better candidate than the man (or woman) who can look at an idea beyond it "being cool" and actually question what functionality it would have in the game. That kind of skepticism is what saves the community -AND- the developers from wasted time, money, and assets.
I do intend to run myself, but not for the same reasons as your typical candidate. Mostly because their reasons generally amuse me and in some cases, frustrate me. The "candidates" who say that they will "represent everybody" and will "tell CCP like it is" make a mockery of anyone who's called themselves a representative. Beyond it being an outright lie (you can't represent everyone, not with the amorphous amount of personalities and directions in the community) it's certainly not in the interest of the game's health. A lot of things that are necessary for the game's meaningful progression and health are contrary to the community's interests. To elaborate with a terrible example, we all generally want to be powerful (god mode invincibility) in a game but it's generally not a good idea.
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J0LLY R0G3R
Legion Alpha Tester
818
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:47:00 -
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^XD if and when elected. I shall do everything opposite of him^
PS4 psn = J0LLYxR0G3R
Underscore before and after the x
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Patoman Radiant
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
156
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:34:00 -
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If someone is a leader of a major corp and stepping down, and saying they won't run in future CPM that is noteworthy. So I am not sure why it wouldn't be mentioned unless someone wanted to sneak away in the night.
Of course nova knife stabbed himself in the foot, if he had a issue about Kane taking too much credit he could have taken more credit himself in the current cmp and in the future one. Though now who knows.
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French Red Whines.
2296
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:36:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote: there's no need for some grandiose speech. People take breaks
I need to call Bull when I see it. This post is basically summed up as "Look at all the great **** that Kane is doing and wants to do"
The CPM is a team sport. Self-serving, "champion of the people" acts are ill-suited for the position.
Kane is completely dependant on public attention (good or bad) and at best he could be described as a mindless parrot regurgitating the opinions of those he speaks to who are much more intelligent than he is.
Just saying.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP !
Ah if only i still gave a crap about any of this, would have been a fun time pitching in.
He, though forbidden by the Codex, was a Precursor. He tried the Replication of Chromosomes. He led to an Uprising
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Captain-Awesome
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
563
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Posted - 2014.05.16 09:21:00 -
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I'm only here to say hi to Cazaderon, stupid frenchman never comes to IRC anymore! WHAT DID I DO TO SEND YOU AWAY!
> Registered: March 2011
>Role: Logistics
Waiting for dust to go on PS4
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Dalmont Legrand
425
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Posted - 2014.05.17 22:32:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Zion Shad wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:So that's three CPMs down, now, if what I am reading is correct.
More importanntly than anything right now is how bad of a blow this is to the community. CPM0 wasn't even supposed to be in play this long and I think its starting to take its toll on the community, the CPM, and CCP. More than anything, we need good news right now and none of what has transpired since Fanfest is that.
Suppose its true in that it gets worse before it gets better but I really think we all need to focus on something positive for once. Good news? Well... there are around 7 or so CPM1 candidates who seem to respect each other and are able to carry on intelligent debates without personalities getting in the way.Now if we could only get them elected... Yea wait until some of them have to be around each other week after week butting heads... They will fight like brothers & sisters after to long. Honeymoons don't last forever Lol sorry Fox I just had to poke A lot of us have been communicating for months already. :)
And then appears guy like me and tells truth about everyone just to grab some popcorn later one and watch it all happening on a big screen.
The best is yet to come
CPM1 Candidate
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Tesfa Alem
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
124
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Posted - 2014.05.18 17:46:00 -
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Please do nothing of the sort. Resign. Do not focus on Legion, don't concentrate on whats left of DUST 514. Resign. You embarrased yourself enough at fanfest. Resign. You played a major role in locking the community out of PC, laundered money from eve into dust, and have the gall to "permit" the community to play in PC with out any interferece from you. Resign. You were appointed by CCP, and rejected by the players. Resign. You don't represent us, and i think its horrible that CCP think you do. Resign.
I do have hopes in legion a new project; but if you are a part of developing it as a stayover from the OLD project. well i, and many others, may be forced to reconsider. Resign.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Smoky Fingers
Red Star. EoN.
397
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Posted - 2014.06.06 05:07:00 -
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Oops . Sorry, bumped wrong thread. Good read tho..
R.I.P. CPM Nova Knife
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2659
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Posted - 2014.06.06 06:44:00 -
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Smoky Fingers wrote:Oops . Sorry, bumped wrong thread. Good read tho..
If you want to convince people you accidentally bumped the wrong thread with your reply, be sure to post it, and then edit it. The lack of an edited tag is a sure sign you're a troll. ;)
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3353
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Posted - 2014.06.06 07:42:00 -
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Actually for future reference it's quite possible to edit a post seconds after posting it and not trigger the edited designation.
Edit: I can take a video if you wish.
CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1
Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
14129
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Posted - 2014.06.06 08:20:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Actually for future reference it's quite possible to edit a post seconds after posting it and not trigger the edited designation.
Edit: I can take a video if you wish.
This is true.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2661
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:25:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Actually for future reference it's quite possible to edit a post seconds after posting it and not trigger the edited designation.
Edit: I can take a video if you wish.
I'll take your word for it. Even the forums have exploits, I guess. :/
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Smoky Fingers
Red Star. EoN.
398
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Posted - 2014.06.06 21:25:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Smoky Fingers wrote:Oops . Sorry, bumped wrong thread. Good read tho.. If you want to convince people you accidentally bumped the wrong thread with your reply, be sure to post it, and then edit it. The lack of an edited tag is a sure sign you're a troll. ;)
i already knew. Im not that stupid sheeesh.
R.I.P. CPM Nova Knife
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