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Ribbons Allmark
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:37:00 -
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If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:41:00 -
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes.
It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too.
If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console.
Are console gamers really this ignorant? |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:42:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant?
are pc elitists so ignorant to think that they have the superior system when people have consoles that do far better than some gaming pc does. plus what would be the point In switching over when none of your friends are on PC?
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:46:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant? are pc elitists so ignorant to think that they have the superior system when people have consoles that do far better than some gaming pc does. plus what would be the point In switching over when none of your friends are on PC?
Wow I guess that console users are this ignorant, lol.
I don't really have time to explain all the absolute ignorance displayed in both this post, and the OP because I'm at work and on my phone.
I assume someone else will. |
Ribbons Allmark
CELESTIAL BEING keepers of peace
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:48:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant? we upgrade when we buy a new console now just answer the question can i spend $400 dollars on a gaming laptop and play the best games on the market right now and this gaming laptop be viable and you keep trashing the ps3 yet the Last of us which was a ps3 exclusive was the Game of the Year followed by GTA V which was a console exclusive
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:49:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Void Echo wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant? are pc elitists so ignorant to think that they have the superior system when people have consoles that do far better than some gaming pc does. plus what would be the point In switching over when none of your friends are on PC? Wow I guess that console users are this ignorant, lol. I don't really have time to explain all the absolute ignorance displayed in both this post, and the OP because I'm at work and on my phone. I assume someone else will.
you pc elitists are truly ignorant.
Closed Beta Vet.
Playstation 4 or nothing CCP.
Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:50:00 -
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant? we upgrade when we buy a new console now just answer the question can i spend $400 dollars on a gaming laptop and play the best games on the market right now and 7 years from now. also you keep trashing the ps3 yet the Last of us which was a ps3 exclusive was the Game of the Year followed by GTA V which was a console exclusive
No, you cannot play the best games on the market on the PS3.
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:50:00 -
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What you need to understand is this:
- console: they are frozen in time for the duration of that 7 years. Thus, yes they run games, gut allways at the same sstandard of performance and graphical fidelity. Theres no way to see better textures, better post-processing effects, etc.
- PC: if you buy a just as capable machine, it will also b eusable for the same period. BUT, you will progressively have to use less post effects, as the games in the PC environment continues to evolve and push the limits everynew generation of hardware offers.
So what I am saying is, a PS3 game now will run in a quality that would be considered 'medium' by todays PC hardware. And thats fine, if the PC owner didnt chose to upgrade.
And Chosing here is the key.
You dont need to upgrade your PC machine, and if you chose not to, it will peform at "PS3" level of performance and graphical fidelity.
Take my PC.
I still use an E8400 CPU processor. Its just a Dual core. And, after 6, 7 years of use, it still delivers. I play whatever I want without complaints.
Now my GPU. I use a GTX 570. This GPU I bought like 3 years ago as an upgrade froma 9800gtx wich lasted 4 years then broke due a power outage.
So, my system is old if you compare it to the actual platforms.
But I still can play games like the recent released Tomb Rider at pretty much maximum. I play shooters near maximum as well, without complaints.
So far, my machine has not rejected any game I wished to play on it.
I could upgrade now if I wanted, porbably will do so next year by just gettign a new GPU/mobo/Ram, and using the old parts like GPU, case, HDD's, so it wont be a huge investment.
But I will uograde more out of a desire of having a new shinny than because I need to.
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Ribbons Allmark
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:52:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:What you need to understand is this:
- console: they are frozen in time for the duration of that 7 years. Thus, yes they run games, gut allways at the same sstandard of performance and graphical fidelity. Theres no way to see better textures, better post-processing effects, etc.
- PC: if you buy a just as capable machine, it will also b eusable for the same period. BUT, you will progressively have to use less post effects, as the games in the PC environment continues to evolve and push the limits everynew generation of hardware offers.
So what I am saying is, a PS3 game now will run in a quality that would be considered 'medium' by todays PC hardware. And thats fine, if the PC owner didnt chose to upgrade.
And Chosing here is the key.
You dont need to upgrade your PC machine, and if you chose not to, it will peform at "PS3" level of performance and graphical fidelity.
Take my PC.
I still use an E8400 CPU processor. Its just a Dual core. And, after 6, 7 years of use, it still delivers. I play whatever I want without complaints.
Now my GPU. I use a GTX 570. This GPU I bought like 3 years ago as an upgrade froma 9800gtx wich lasted 4 years then broke due a power outage.
So, my system is old if you compare it to the actual platforms.
But I still can play games like the recent released Tomb Rider at pretty much maximum. I play shooters near maximum as well, without complaints.
So far, my machine has not rejected any game I wished to play on it.
I could upgrade now if I wanted, porbably will do so next year by just gettign a new GPU/mobo/Ram, and using the old parts like GPU, case, HDD's, so it wont be a huge investment.
But I will uograde more out of a desire of having a new shinny than because I need to.
how much did you pay for your computer |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:53:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:What you need to understand is this:
- console: they are frozen in time for the duration of that 7 years. Thus, yes they run games, gut allways at the same sstandard of performance and graphical fidelity. Theres no way to see better textures, better post-processing effects, etc.
- PC: if you buy a just as capable machine, it will also b eusable for the same period. BUT, you will progressively have to use less post effects, as the games in the PC environment continues to evolve and push the limits everynew generation of hardware offers.
So what I am saying is, a PS3 game now will run in a quality that would be considered 'medium' by todays PC hardware. And thats fine, if the PC owner didnt chose to upgrade.
And Chosing here is the key.
You dont need to upgrade your PC machine, and if you chose not to, it will peform at "PS3" level of performance and graphical fidelity.
Take my PC.
I still use an E8400 CPU processor. Its just a Dual core. And, after 6, 7 years of use, it still delivers. I play whatever I want without complaints.
Now my GPU. I use a GTX 570. This GPU I bought like 3 years ago as an upgrade froma 9800gtx wich lasted 4 years then broke due a power outage.
So, my system is old if you compare it to the actual platforms.
But I still can play games like the recent released Tomb Rider at pretty much maximum. I play shooters near maximum as well, without complaints.
So far, my machine has not rejected any game I wished to play on it.
I could upgrade now if I wanted, porbably will do so next year by just gettign a new GPU/mobo/Ram, and using the old parts like GPU, case, HDD's, so it wont be a huge investment.
But I will uograde more out of a desire of having a new shinny than because I need to.
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THE 2000 SWINE
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:53:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant?
PC will run every virus, malware, trojan, wall hack, aimbot, and loads of other C# software enhancements.
Your dusting ignorant.
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:55:00 -
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant? we upgrade when we buy a new console now just answer the question can i spend $400 dollars on a gaming laptop and play the best games on the market right now and 7 years from now. also you keep trashing the ps3 yet the Last of us which was a ps3 exclusive was the Game of the Year followed by GTA V which was a console exclusive. $400 is the going price of a ps4 thats why i use hat as my benchmark
For the love of God, DONT buy a gamming laptop.
Just... dont.
They are overpriced stuff that will nto perform as well as a desktop with similar especifications.
The last time i read articles, it was said that the GPU gtx750Ti was a good alternative for a new PC capable of matching a PS4 performance. Its about $149 at new egg.
Assemble a system around it. It will probably come closer to $600, but a PC can do a lot more than gamming, so theres that. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:56:00 -
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THE 2000 SWINE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant? PC will run every virus, malware, trojan, wall hack, aimbot, and loads of other C# software enhancements. Your dusting ignorant.
You're right. These are insurmountable issues. That's why they use consoles for business.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:57:00 -
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console. Where did you get those numbers? Firstly, $1,000 is a pretty large sum. By shopping smart and understanding what's really necessary for gaming performance, you can construct your own gaming PC that is superior to any next-gen console for significantly less than $1,000. Secondly, why would it not last as long?
I am become Legion, the destroyer of bunnies.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:58:00 -
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Skyrim PS3 < Skyrim PC w/mods
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:58:00 -
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So much facepalm in this thread.
Gifs are gone :(
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:00:00 -
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THE 2000 SWINE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant? PC will run every virus, malware, trojan, wall hack, aimbot, and loads of other C# software enhancements. Your dusting ignorant. The worst anti virus can block all of those lol EDIT: You can also get anti virus/anti malware for free in some places.
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Ribbons Allmark
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:00:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant? we upgrade when we buy a new console now just answer the question can i spend $400 dollars on a gaming laptop and play the best games on the market right now and 7 years from now. also you keep trashing the ps3 yet the Last of us which was a ps3 exclusive was the Game of the Year followed by GTA V which was a console exclusive. $400 is the going price of a ps4 thats why i use hat as my benchmark For the love of God, DONT buy a gamming laptop. Just... dont. They are overpriced stuff that will nto perform as well as a desktop with similar especifications. The last time i read articles, it was said that the GPU gtx750Ti was a good alternative for a new PC capable of matching a PS4 performance. Its about $149 at new egg. Assemble a system around it. It will probably come closer to $600, but a PC can do a lot more than gamming, so theres that. Also, most parts will be still being able to be used at your next upgrade some years from now, so the cost of upgrading would be way lower then buying a new console when the time comes. thank you you have been knowledgeable and respectful on the way you have answered the question I will stick with a PS4 just because it is cheaper. I will also admit I cannot assemble a PC.
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Death Shadow117
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:01:00 -
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oh wow i toughr all pc gamers lived in their moms basement and played WOW but u guess you guys proved me right thats why you fags wont get destiny for youe ****** system
When Can I Have Assault Nova Knives
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Ribbons Allmark
CELESTIAL BEING keepers of peace
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:01:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console. Where did you get those numbers? Firstly, $1,000 is a pretty large sum. By shopping smart and understanding what's really necessary for gaming performance, you can construct your own gaming PC that is superior to any next-gen console for significantly less than $1,000. Secondly, why would it not last as long? My roomate just blew half his tax return on a gaming PC and thats what he spent. |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:07:00 -
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console. Where did you get those numbers? Firstly, $1,000 is a pretty large sum. By shopping smart and understanding what's really necessary for gaming performance, you can construct your own gaming PC that is superior to any next-gen console for significantly less than $1,000. Secondly, why would it not last as long? My roomate just blew half his tax return on a gaming PC and thats what he spent.
You certainly can spend that much and more, but it depends on what you want to achieve.
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:09:00 -
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:Ender Storm wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years. If by viable, you mean ****** like the Ps3, then yes. It's not like the PC is going to lose functionality. Is going to run everything that it used too. If you mean cutting edge, then no, you'll have to upgrade it some-something you can't do on a console. Are console gamers really this ignorant? we upgrade when we buy a new console now just answer the question can i spend $400 dollars on a gaming laptop and play the best games on the market right now and 7 years from now. also you keep trashing the ps3 yet the Last of us which was a ps3 exclusive was the Game of the Year followed by GTA V which was a console exclusive. $400 is the going price of a ps4 thats why i use hat as my benchmark For the love of God, DONT buy a gamming laptop. Just... dont. They are overpriced stuff that will nto perform as well as a desktop with similar especifications. The last time i read articles, it was said that the GPU gtx750Ti was a good alternative for a new PC capable of matching a PS4 performance. Its about $149 at new egg. Assemble a system around it. It will probably come closer to $600, but a PC can do a lot more than gamming, so theres that. Also, most parts will be still being able to be used at your next upgrade some years from now, so the cost of upgrading would be way lower then buying a new console when the time comes. thank you you have been knowledgeable and respectful on the way you have answered the question I will stick with a PS4 just because it is cheaper. I will also admit I cannot assemble a PC.
If you feel like I would sugest going for this sub-reddit, they can help with builds better than I could.
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc
When I build a PC I dont really go after low costs, I go for what I can get with the money I am willing to spend.
So while I probably would assemble for myself a costly machine, I know I dont need to.
But as I use my machine also for home office, and as a media server for my home, and to Multibox EVE, or even run EVE while playing a shooter (fro fleets in EVE can take forever), I need it to have some extra-juice. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:10:00 -
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A gaming PC is more expensive... period. We can just stop this argument now. Going from no PS4s to one PS4 is cheaper than going from no PCs to one gaming PC.
However, CPU tech has been evolving fairly slowly for the last few years since the second generation core i processors were released in 2010-2011. Graphics cards do continually evolve at a fairly rapid pace still, the most notable being a huge surge in VRAM over the last two generations.
Now... keep in mind that PS4 you have is never going to get better. It runs at a level of graphical fidelity that you, personally, find acceptable and as long as you find that acceptable it will continue to give you that performance. You buy it, plug it in, and forget it. You know what... that is great. There are a lot of people who are too busy, too tired, too 'whatever' to want to deal with anything more than that, and you guys have every right to feel that way.
There is a second group of people who love building, improving, and tinkering.. etc. Gaming is a hobby, whether on a PC or a console... any amount of money you spend on a hobby is only a waste if you perceive it is (but then... why would you pursue the hobby in the first place if you felt it was waste?). I built my first gaming PC in 2011 for ~$1200 (I had a student copy of windows for free) and have since spent ~$400 more adding in little things here and there. Not because I have to, but because I WANT to, I enjoy the tinkering and the improving. With the customizable platforms comes the ability to play games that, simply put, outperform any generation of console.
I'm not superior to you because I have a gaming PC, we just choose to experience our hobby, gaming, in different ways.
Consoles are more cost efficient - hands down that is undeniable. PCs are more powerful - also undeniable.
Don't be afraid to assemble a PC though... its not hard at all anymore. If you can plug your PS3 into a power socket you can build a PC. |
Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:11:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Ribbons Allmark wrote:I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console. Where did you get those numbers? Firstly, $1,000 is a pretty large sum. By shopping smart and understanding what's really necessary for gaming performance, you can construct your own gaming PC that is superior to any next-gen console for significantly less than $1,000. Secondly, why would it not last as long? My roomate just blew half his tax return on a gaming PC and thats what he spent. You certainly can spend that much and more, but it depends on what you want to achieve.
Yeah thats true.
Its like cars, you can spend less or more, but both will take you to your destination. One with more luxury than the other. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:18:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:A gaming PC is more expensive... period. We can just stop this argument now. Going from no PS4s to one PS4 is cheaper than going from no PCs to one gaming PC.
However, CPU tech has been evolving fairly slowly for the last few years since the second generation core i processors were released in 2010-2011. Graphics cards do continually evolve at a fairly rapid pace still, the most notable being a huge surge in VRAM over the last two generations.
Now... keep in mind that PS4 you have is never going to get better. It runs at a level of graphical fidelity that you, personally, find acceptable and as long as you find that acceptable it will continue to give you that performance. You buy it, plug it in, and forget it. You know what... that is great. There are a lot of people who are too busy, too tired, too 'whatever' to want to deal with anything more than that, and you guys have every right to feel that way.
There is a second group of people who love building, improving, and tinkering.. etc. Gaming is a hobby, whether on a PC or a console... any amount of money you spend on a hobby is only a waste if you perceive it is (but then... why would you pursue the hobby in the first place if you felt it was waste?). I built my first gaming PC in 2011 for ~$1200 (I had a student copy of windows for free) and have since spent ~$400 more adding in little things here and there. Not because I have to, but because I WANT to, I enjoy the tinkering and the improving. With the customizable platforms comes the ability to play games that, simply put, outperform any generation of console.
I'm not superior to you because I have a gaming PC, we just choose to experience our hobby, gaming, in different ways.
Consoles are more cost efficient - hands down that is undeniable. PCs are more powerful - also undeniable.
Don't be afraid to assemble a PC though... its not hard at all anymore. If you can plug your PS3 into a power socket you can build a PC.
While this is factual, you are getting more for your money with PC typically. So while it is more expensive, you're getting more, so I'm not convinced regarding the efficiency argument.
Also, you can get lots of PC games on much better discounts than console games.
Obviously there's also the whole "all the stuff other than games argument as well".
IMHO, it's true that you'll spend more money, but you'll get more than that monetary difference back in increased utility.
Also, I do have both PCs and consoles, so I've seen both sides if this.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years.
...compare money and art - art killing.
...sorry for bad English =)
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:21:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:A gaming PC is more expensive... period. We can just stop this argument now. Going from no PS4s to one PS4 is cheaper than going from no PCs to one gaming PC.
However, CPU tech has been evolving fairly slowly for the last few years since the second generation core i processors were released in 2010-2011. Graphics cards do continually evolve at a fairly rapid pace still, the most notable being a huge surge in VRAM over the last two generations.
Now... keep in mind that PS4 you have is never going to get better. It runs at a level of graphical fidelity that you, personally, find acceptable and as long as you find that acceptable it will continue to give you that performance. You buy it, plug it in, and forget it. You know what... that is great. There are a lot of people who are too busy, too tired, too 'whatever' to want to deal with anything more than that, and you guys have every right to feel that way.
There is a second group of people who love building, improving, and tinkering.. etc. Gaming is a hobby, whether on a PC or a console... any amount of money you spend on a hobby is only a waste if you perceive it is (but then... why would you pursue the hobby in the first place if you felt it was waste?). I built my first gaming PC in 2011 for ~$1200 (I had a student copy of windows for free) and have since spent ~$400 more adding in little things here and there. Not because I have to, but because I WANT to, I enjoy the tinkering and the improving. With the customizable platforms comes the ability to play games that, simply put, outperform any generation of console.
I'm not superior to you because I have a gaming PC, we just choose to experience our hobby, gaming, in different ways.
Consoles are more cost efficient - hands down that is undeniable. PCs are more powerful - also undeniable.
Don't be afraid to assemble a PC though... its not hard at all anymore. If you can plug your PS3 into a power socket you can build a PC.
Very well put.
I myself have my PC, and usually buy the console after a few years, when its cheaper, already on the second iteration (like the PS3 slim) and with a good library of games.
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Cosgar
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:25:00 -
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It just comes down to two things:
Console = Out of the box experience. Low maitenence, superior local multiplayer experience. Can be obselete after a few years.
PC = Highly customizable. Medium to high maitenence, local multiplayer can be harder to set up. Longer shelf life than consoles.
It depends on the person and how much you want to spend or what games you prefer playing. I always preffered stuff like FPS and dungeon crawlers on PC but I'd rather play action and most local/online multiplayer on consoles. This master race crap is nonsense since both platforms have their own strengths and weaknesses.
Call 1-800-345-SONY, press 2, then 2 again to get your money back if you bought AUR in the past 90 days.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:26:00 -
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now?
Add in extra 300-400$ and you'll out perform the PS4 and you might even challenge the PS5
Also why is this thread filled with angry comments on PC vs console? Who cares what you play on
State your stance on EVE:Legion
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:33:00 -
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Speaking as hobbyist computer tech.
My current feel on the environment is damned if you do damned if you dont.
i7s for example have been out for a while and are in a stabilized price board wise. Its replacement is not in sight but the prospect or idea of one is around the corner. But because of that the i7 prices are not going to drop down any further. Then there is DDR4's around the corner as well and it may be the last memory standard by that organization. The whole technology is constantly changing and its really hard to predict how long any tech will stay for.
What is easy to predict is how fast tech gets adopted (thus going in the latest can bite you here if nobody supports it) or unsupported if its popular. So when making purchases stick with standards goto tech.
So we are in a 'mid cycle' so to say. Worst time to upgrade because prices are not fair and tech disparity may be too great once the cycle ends.
Now based on experience in this cycle this cycle has been very kind to me.
My total construct based on day of purchase is about 4,000 usd (my drawing monitor is 2.7k usd at the day of purchase) reproducing my build minus the monitor is probably around 700 usd these days and my computer is considered upper tier middleweight. I can run Eve; FFXIV; Warframe on Ultra at the same time across the two monitors I do have with a 24 gig picture in the drawing at the same time. I only upgraded the video card once but it only basically matched the power of my previous on keeping similar performances but with less power which basically took my day of purchase 400 usd cards and replaced it with a card you can get these days for 176$. The most expensive components in my computer memory and storage still I have 24 gigs (overkill for games seriously but I need that much for other crap I do) and hard drives which just basically been a collection from...my last four previous computers.
Well the whole you can build a top end game machine for same cost of a console is true. And if the tech doesn't change too much. Upgrading from previous gen to next gen is an order of half cost because majority of your investments previously can stay in your computer to the day they fail.
Memory Hard Drives Power Supplies Monitors they stick with you through the upgrades easily the most intensive replacing most one would have to do is generally the GPU, then CPU and then Motherboard.
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