If I go out and buy a gaming console for $400 will it still be a viable option for gaming 7 years from now? I say this because a decent gaming PC cost $1000 and does not last half the lifetime of a console sorry its the truth playstation 3 came out in November of 2006. what gaming laptop will last seven years let me know? it must be noted that ps3 will probably be supported for an additional 2 years bringing its total viable gaming life cycle to 9 years.

are pc elitists so ignorant to think that they have the superior system when people have consoles that do far better than some gaming pc does. plus what would be the point In switching over when none of your friends are on PC?

we upgrade when we buy a new console now just answer the question can i spend $400 dollars on a gaming laptop and play the best games on the market right now and 7 years from now. also you keep trashing the ps3 yet the Last of us which was a ps3 exclusive was the Game of the Year followed by GTA V which was a console exclusive

What you need to understand is this:

- console: they are frozen in time for the duration of that 7 years. Thus, yes they run games, gut allways at the same sstandard of performance and graphical fidelity. Theres no way to see better textures, better post-processing effects, etc.

- PC: if you buy a just as capable machine, it will also b eusable for the same period. BUT, you will progressively have to use less post effects, as the games in the PC environment continues to evolve and push the limits everynew generation of hardware offers.

So what I am saying is, a PS3 game now will run in a quality that would be considered 'medium' by todays PC hardware. And thats fine, if the PC owner didnt chose to upgrade.

And Chosing here is the key.

You dont need to upgrade your PC machine, and if you chose not to, it will peform at "PS3" level of performance and graphical fidelity.

Take my PC.

I still use an E8400 CPU processor. Its just a Dual core. And, after 6, 7 years of use, it still delivers. I play whatever I want without complaints.

Now my GPU. I use a GTX 570. This GPU I bought like 3 years ago as an upgrade froma 9800gtx wich lasted 4 years then broke due a power outage.

So, my system is old if you compare it to the actual platforms.

But I still can play games like the recent released Tomb Rider at pretty much maximum. I play shooters near maximum as well, without complaints.

So far, my machine has not rejected any game I wished to play on it.

I could upgrade now if I wanted, porbably will do so next year by just gettign a new GPU/mobo/Ram, and using the old parts like GPU, case, HDD's, so it wont be a huge investment.

But I will uograde more out of a desire of having a new shinny than because I need to.

PC will run every virus, malware, trojan, wall hack, aimbot, and loads of other C# software enhancements.

Your dusting ignorant.

My roomate just blew half his tax return on a gaming PC and thats what he spent.

A gaming PC is more expensive... period. We can just stop this argument now. Going from no PS4s to one PS4 is cheaper than going from no PCs to one gaming PC.

However, CPU tech has been evolving fairly slowly for the last few years since the second generation core i processors were released in 2010-2011. Graphics cards do continually evolve at a fairly rapid pace still, the most notable being a huge surge in VRAM over the last two generations.

Now... keep in mind that PS4 you have is never going to get better. It runs at a level of graphical fidelity that you, personally, find acceptable and as long as you find that acceptable it will continue to give you that performance. You buy it, plug it in, and forget it. You know what... that is great. There are a lot of people who are too busy, too tired, too 'whatever' to want to deal with anything more than that, and you guys have every right to feel that way.

There is a second group of people who love building, improving, and tinkering.. etc. Gaming is a hobby, whether on a PC or a console... any amount of money you spend on a hobby is only a waste if you perceive it is (but then... why would you pursue the hobby in the first place if you felt it was waste?). I built my first gaming PC in 2011 for ~$1200 (I had a student copy of windows for free) and have since spent ~$400 more adding in little things here and there. Not because I have to, but because I WANT to, I enjoy the tinkering and the improving. With the customizable platforms comes the ability to play games that, simply put, outperform any generation of console.

I'm not superior to you because I have a gaming PC, we just choose to experience our hobby, gaming, in different ways.

Consoles are more cost efficient - hands down that is undeniable.
PCs are more powerful - also undeniable.

Don't be afraid to assemble a PC though... its not hard at all anymore. If you can plug your PS3 into a power socket you can build a PC.

I've heard also that the PS4 might get a shorter life expectancy than the PS3 got. When the PS3 was released, it was a beast. The PS4 isnt all that comparatively, equating to a mid-high experience, so probably its shelf life will be shorter.

Sony will probably have a new console out in 4 or 5 years.

Whats the point of a top end pc when most games are made to fit console and gamepad? I had arkham aslyum on pc and ps3 i found the gamepad better for that game. Mmos are better on pc and kbm but there hasnt been a pc exclusive game ive wanted in 4 years.

Do you need a top end pc to run them? Not trolling pc but are any of those games going to blow you away graphically like the original half life or deus ex?

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I have no argument to back up what I say. As a PCmasterRacists I will just bow out now while remaining smug for no good reason.

60 fps 1080p. XBone cant do it.

Sorry I cant hear you over how awesome 1920x1200 is but Forza is just 1 game, that has maybe 10-15 moving assets, half of which are rarely on the screen at the same time. I get 60 FPS 1920x1200 while playing Rome 2 modded ot have unit sizes of actual Roman cohorts, 480 men a piece. Now, extrapolate. 10 cohorts = 4800 men, plus auxiliaries another 2700 for just one legion. Now add in enemies of comparable size and ally legions. Yea. Im getting battles upwards of 10-15 thousand. Tell me, can your potato do that?

Console is the cost of 1 graphics card upgrade, an upgrade every 3 years if this thread is to be believed. (I know, some do it more, and some do it less).

That isn't to mention the CPU (every 5 or so), the HDD/SSD (3-4 years), powersupply (5 years maybe 7 if you like to gamble), motherboard (new CPU = new motherboard), Ram (new motherboard and CPU almost always means new ram too), and maybe new case if you just feel like a change. On top of this it cost 2-3 times more power to run.

No, it is not more value. It is more expensive, only neckbeards like you could possibly think that it is in any way shape or form cheaper.

Are you seriously going to debate exclusives? Really?... no really?

Did you even read your quote? Here let me link it again.

So, it has been shown time and again that a PC will cost you 2-3 times if not more on your electricity bill every month.

I'm not arguing that a PC is cheaper to buy. You are just trying to dodge a statement you know you made with no proof.

Not necessarily... low level API access is a huge boon and why consoles can do so much with so little.

I'm curious what Mantle and the new DirectX end up doing for PC gaming. If PCs hand direct-to-metal APIs they would end up roflstomping all over consoles. Combine that with multi-threading (something that moving extremely slow in the game development industry) and you would have 5 year old dual-core PCs with ~$100 graphics cards running at the same levels that the PS4 can achieve now.

If you do not upgrade, your computer will continue to look worse, not better (as is the case for the console) because you will be left behind in game development.

So just off of the top of my head, in 2007 or 2008 Eve online stopped supporting graphics cards that didn't support shader model 3.0. At the time that meant graphics cards that were less than 2-3 years old were no longer supported. Sometimes expansions and DLC have slightly higher requirements. Point is the computer performance, suprise suprise, degrades relatively over time, the opposite of the console. Speaking of which aren't some games being released only in Direct x 10 or above now?

Also, for a good long time a TON of DOS games were not playable without a jumping through a ton of hoops because of newer operating systems. Thank jebus for DOSBox and the people who know how to use it. You do understand though, that GoG releasing older games on DOSBOX is really no different than how you can buy tons of PSOne games on PSN aswell right? Or how about all of those older nintendo games you can play on the wii?

Every single component in a computer has a life-span that is not dissimilar to a consoles (because internally they are VERY similar). This means you will be replacing the ENTIRETY of your computer's innards as ofte (if not more so) than a console owner would.

Ok you two are flooding me with so much stupid it is going to take a second so bare with me here.




Jesus you are dumb.

AVG PC will take well over 300 watts to run

PS4 is under 200 watts when under load.

I am saying SHOW ME A SYSTEM, ANY SYSTEM that is comparable with the PS4 (cost wise) and I will show you a system that takes between 2-3 times more ELECTRICITY than the PS4 you knuckle dragging mouth-breather.


You are just full of all kinds of stupid aren't you? Do I really have to explain just the most rudemntary stuff to you? Ok so which item, the DIY-PC or the PS4 was designed to be power efficient (I'll give you a hint, not the PC)?

LOL, nope, look how just wrong about everything you are.

PS4 runs on an x86-64 processor dummy. That, last time I checked, isn't exactly the same as ARM architecture.

It is funny, PCMasterracists have been all over the place posting "PS4 equivalent" builds for ages now, but when I ask for one, all of the sudden they don't want to post them....