we upgrade when we buy a new console now just answer the question can i spend $400 dollars on a gaming laptop and play the best games on the market right now and 7 years from now. also you keep trashing the ps3 yet the Last of us which was a ps3 exclusive was the Game of the Year followed by GTA V which was a console exclusive. $400 is the going price of a ps4 thats why i use hat as my benchmark

thank you you have been knowledgeable and respectful on the way you have answered the question I will stick with a PS4 just because it is cheaper. I will also admit I cannot assemble a PC.

You certainly can spend that much and more, but it depends on what you want to achieve.

A gaming PC is more expensive... period. We can just stop this argument now. Going from no PS4s to one PS4 is cheaper than going from no PCs to one gaming PC.

However, CPU tech has been evolving fairly slowly for the last few years since the second generation core i processors were released in 2010-2011. Graphics cards do continually evolve at a fairly rapid pace still, the most notable being a huge surge in VRAM over the last two generations.

Now... keep in mind that PS4 you have is never going to get better. It runs at a level of graphical fidelity that you, personally, find acceptable and as long as you find that acceptable it will continue to give you that performance. You buy it, plug it in, and forget it. You know what... that is great. There are a lot of people who are too busy, too tired, too 'whatever' to want to deal with anything more than that, and you guys have every right to feel that way.

There is a second group of people who love building, improving, and tinkering.. etc. Gaming is a hobby, whether on a PC or a console... any amount of money you spend on a hobby is only a waste if you perceive it is (but then... why would you pursue the hobby in the first place if you felt it was waste?). I built my first gaming PC in 2011 for ~$1200 (I had a student copy of windows for free) and have since spent ~$400 more adding in little things here and there. Not because I have to, but because I WANT to, I enjoy the tinkering and the improving. With the customizable platforms comes the ability to play games that, simply put, outperform any generation of console.

I'm not superior to you because I have a gaming PC, we just choose to experience our hobby, gaming, in different ways.

Consoles are more cost efficient - hands down that is undeniable.
PCs are more powerful - also undeniable.

Don't be afraid to assemble a PC though... its not hard at all anymore. If you can plug your PS3 into a power socket you can build a PC.

Rather than name specific games, I'll list entire genres that aren't well represented in consoles:

Mmo
Strategy
Simulation
Indie (not a genre really, but still important)


Also modding.

9800 GTX came out in mid 2008, 4 years later would have been mid 2012, 3 years after that would be 2015. Either you are responding to post on the forums from the year 2015, or your 9800 GTX lasted you about 3 years for the price of $300. Then you spent another $300 on the 570 GTX, which brings us to today.

You spent $600, going through 2 graphics cards, in over the last 6 years. You didn;t get any additional functionality out of those graphics cards, they were pretty much only to play games (because on-board gfx is enough for most everything else).

In 2008 you could have purchased a PS3 for $400 and gotten a an amazing blurray player with it when blurray players were still going for $350+.

This was a thread about value in case you had forgotten.

I smell a bottleneck

Yeah, even if it was an Intel Core 2 Quad (one of the powerful ones) then that's somewhat ok, there would be a bottleneck but nothing to write home about.
But that's a major bottleneck there XD