you download drive you plug dualshock you play you see trees in New Eden like mine...

pity couldn't make it in fire

It doesn't need to have Gamepad support for you to use DS3 (or any Gamepad for that matter).

Just use this

Thanks for educating this old man.

This.

I have never played FPS before Dust because I don't like WASD controls. I tend to steer clear of PC games that are not turn based or point and click. Legion must have controller support on the PC for simpletons like me who can't grasp WASD.

Whatever they do for K/BM controls, they should absolutely not listen to PC gamers or emulate other shooters. (Counterstrike and Unreal are ******* awful). I can use both just fine, but games are way too soft with the K/BM.

I'd love to see turn speed related to character weight, or for full realism, tuned to the weapon. Pistoleers turn 1:1 and HMG users gotta swing that ***** to turn around at all.

But FPS players console or PC usually hate any kind of strategy or playstyles different from point and click so it'll never happen.

Whatever they do for K/BM controls, they should absolutely not listen to PC gamers or emulate other shooters. (Counterstrike and Unreal are ******* awful). I can use both just fine, but games are way too soft with the K/BM.

I'd love to see turn speed related to character weight, or for full realism, tuned to the weapon. Pistoleers turn 1:1 and HMG users gotta swing that ***** to turn around at all.

But FPS players console or PC usually hate any kind of strategy or playstyles different from point and click so it'll never happen.

In fact its basically a crime for you to generalise so that leads me to believe that whole post is one troll, 10/10.

Both trolling and my honest opinion.

But, of course, I have to be terrible to suggest something other than glorious 1:1 mouse controls for weaksauce mouse users. It can't be that I just want a game that rewards a bit of forethought and puts a bit of weight to moving a gun around instead of the entirely skill-devoid action of pointing a mouse and clicking.

I'll admit when I said I can use both I wasn't talking about Dust though. I don't even own a USB kb/m set.

Lol whaaaa? I thought goons would be all over MKB. =S

Whatever they do for K/BM controls, they should absolutely not listen to PC gamers or emulate other shooters. (Counterstrike and Unreal are ******* awful). I can use both just fine, but games are way too soft with the K/BM.

I'd love to see turn speed related to character weight, or for full realism, tuned to the weapon. Pistoleers turn 1:1 and HMG users gotta swing that ***** to turn around at all.

But FPS players console or PC usually hate any kind of strategy or playstyles different from point and click so it'll never happen.

Wow thanks for the quick response!!! :D

That was because you weren't telling CCP to go **** themselves like me and several others would.

In fact its basically a crime for you to generalise so that leads me to believe that whole post is one troll, 10/10.

Its a PC, of course you'll be able to use a controller, in fact you'll be able to use a wide variety of controllers.

XBOX, DS3, DS4, third party controllers... all sorts of gamepads will be supported. You'll have completely remapable keys as well I bet.

And actually I'd be fine with optional aim assist. Maybe mark it on the scoreboards or something, but ultimately it's not going to faze a decent mouse player while it will allow newer or controller players to not be completely walked over.

The problem is that a gamepad is considered a casual controlling input for the precise reasons of needing an Aim assist to perform well. And rightfully so to be blunt. Competition means using ones own skill to become the victor. The game aiding you
In "increasing" the skill you might not have is not a desirable mechanic for most in said competitions.

On the PC where the KB&M is the primary input, it will always be considered competitive and therefore more important. Game companies will make a game ideal for their largest playerbase, and it's obvious what it is for the PC.

You don't quite understand.

There are no restrictions on the DS3 currently. Only additions to make aiming more fluid. There are restrictions on the KB/M to prevent it from overcoming the limitations that the DS3 has.

On Legion, the KB/M restrictions will be completely removed and more then likely the additions the DS3 have will also be completely removed. If not removed, the aim assist will be tapered back to a fraction of what it currently is in dust. This is the case with almost all PC games, because the controller is a secondary method of input.

CCP was one of the few, if not only, game company that tried to create two unbalanced inputs as a primary. This led to the KB/M being choked back to laughable levels compared to Unreal Tournament, and why DS3 has such a large impacting aim assist.

As you can tell from the history of CCP tinkering with it trying to find a balance between the two inputs, it failed horribly. I doubt they will try to do it again Legion.

Could always re-map your keyboard via 3rd party. Lol, although its a pain in the ass with the reboots involved.

I once re-mapped my roommates keyboard so that every button hot linked to gay prons

This is a PC game now, take your peasant box input elsewhere. You had your fun in the sun always on headshot mode for the past few months.

That said, you can do this on PS4? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FUwAENrrAg

Well I'm going to try and make the jump...but idk how long it will be until that happens

No it doesn't work. And yes it has been tried. Many times. Just try to use a turret with KB/M in Dust to see how utterly ridiculous that idea is.

What you need to realise is is that where you point your mouse is where you look. Limiting the speed at which you can look somewhere will always feel like **** and isn't realistic either. The only way to do what you want is to decouple look from aim, i.e. you point your mouse to look somewhere, then the weapon rotation slowly follows. I believe that also has been tried and discarded because it feels pretty crappy.

Ultimately, game feel is the most important aspect, much much more important than realism and even more important than strategy. If a game has no strategy at all but a good game feel, it's still going to be fun. If a game has tons of strategy but feels crappy, then nobody will enjoy it.

Game designers aren't idiots, and a ton of stuff is being tried that you never see because it simply doesn't hold up in playtesting. Players aren't idiots either, and just because they want their shooting mechanics to feel good, doesn't mean that they are opposed to strategy. Games like Quake deathmatch involve a ton of strategic decisions and Dust obviously isn't completely devoid of strategy either just because you can turn around instantly (and yes you can, there is a delay in the mouse input that makes everything feel sluggish, but overall turn speed does not seem to be capped at all at least for medium and light suits).

Something we're keeping in mind for sure going forward.