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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:19:00 -
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Cyrus Militani wrote:If I were you I'd give KB/M more of a chance. Trying it for a few minutes really isn't going to tell you anything. You need to play it for a while, adjust the sensitivity, and then play it for a while longer. The aiming is far superior with a mouse than a joystick, even with how finicky KB/M is on Dust.
The only thing I haven't quite figured out on the KB/M is how to issue squad orders, but that's mostly due to my laziness.
The biggest downside in using KB/M is turning a turret. With a joystick you can hold it down and it will keep turning. With a mouse you have to pick up, drag, pick up drag... I tend to use my Sixaxis to make long turns and the mouse to aim for that reason. With infantry there's no issue. I'm fine with the sensitivity and all that...I just simply prefer the controller....there's to many buttons on a keyboard for my simple mind to comprehend
That and I have a gold ps3 controller....my prized possession.....sort of...not really....but it's still awesome to use
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3258
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:19:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:@CCP Can you confirm raw kbm input? Please please.
Make Bethhy happy. I won't play if it isn't. Could always re-map your keyboard via 3rd party. Lol, although its a pain in the ass with the reboots involved. I once re-mapped my roommates keyboard so that every button hot linked to gay prons
You evil **** hahahahaha.
Well that was fun
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Jak'Saan
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
190
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:19:00 -
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Hey Lame-CP maybe this time you can add controller support to this douchey PC-only version and give the controller a douchey unfair advantage. This way console gamers can douche out on douchey pc gamers who have been claiming to be the douche-sac of douches because of how douchy you made KB/M for them. |
McFurious
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
742
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:21:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:@CCP Can you confirm raw kbm input? Please please.
Make Bethhy happy. I won't play if it isn't.
If they gimp the KBM in Legion even a little bit, I will laugh, biomass, and never play a CCP game again.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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Beld Errmon
1646
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:21:00 -
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inohahna mamotto wrote:Patrick57 wrote:"But, it's a PC game, so there should be no place for controllers!"
-Logic of Dust players who think having mouse and keyboard controls for Dust ruins the whole game. Did anyone say that you ******* roach?
wow you fail at getting the point, I've done some research on Blattodea species and I reckon many of them are a fair bit smarter than you, pretty much all of them have more use on this planet than you, perhaps you should pick a species you are actually superior too.
Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
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Dalmont Legrand
400
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:22:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters....
you download drive you plug dualshock you play you see trees in New Eden like mine...
pity couldn't make it in fire
Tree in New Eden...
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
163
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:23:00 -
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McFurious wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:@CCP Can you confirm raw kbm input? Please please.
Make Bethhy happy. I won't play if it isn't. If they gimp the KBM in Legion even a little bit, I will laugh, biomass, and never play a CCP game again.
Yea that would be a little pathetic. Sensitivity speed on Legion demo was very slow so we really don't have an answer.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
927
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:25:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters.... Something we're keeping in mind for sure going forward.
Don't be surprised when you won't have aim assist. Controllers will be a secondary control method, so it more then likely won't have an aim assist, or if it does it will be negligible. They also won't put any restrictions on the kb/m so it will fly free as a bird.
Controllers will not be a competitive method of input, but if you play casually there probably won't be an issue for you. |
WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
163
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:28:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters.... Something we're keeping in mind for sure going forward. Don't be surprised when you won't have aim assist. Controllers will be a secondary control method, so it more then likely won't have an aim assist, or if it does it will be negligible. They also won't put any restrictions on the kb/m so it will fly free as a bird. Controllers will not be a competitive method of input, but if you play casually there probably won't be an issue for you.
I've been running with auto aim turned off already, I'll still back that controllers will be competitive still in Legion.
DS3 WARRIORS UNITE! |
Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:29:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:Hey Lame-CP maybe this time you can add controller support to this douchey PC-only version and give the controller a douchey unfair advantage. This way console gamers can douche out on douchey pc gamers who have been claiming to be the douche-sac of douches because of how douchy you made KB/M for them.
This is a PC game now, take your peasant box input elsewhere. You had your fun in the sun always on headshot mode for the past few months.
That said, you can do this on PS4? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FUwAENrrAg
Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7918
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:29:00 -
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There's a tool I use called DS3 Tool.
It emulates both KB/M and Gamepad (such as a 360 Controller) input, and works rather well with emulators. Slap an HDMI cable onto the thing, and your reliving the past 20-30 years of your life all over again <3
Anyways, the download link can be found here.
inb4 The Lock!
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7918
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:31:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:"But, it's a PC game, so there should be no place for controllers!"
-Logic of Dust players who think having mouse and keyboard controls for Dust ruins the whole game. I don't believe the OP was one of those players saying that, but that is quite the double standard nevertheless.
inb4 The Lock!
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
163
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:31:00 -
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Phoenix 85 wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:Hey Lame-CP maybe this time you can add controller support to this douchey PC-only version and give the controller a douchey unfair advantage. This way console gamers can douche out on douchey pc gamers who have been claiming to be the douche-sac of douches because of how douchy you made KB/M for them. This is a PC game now, take your peasant box input elsewhere. You had your fun in the sun always on headshot mode for the past few months. That said, you can do this on PS4? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FUwAENrrAg
LMAO fugging hilarious, we need a video of someone pwning dust with the play station move. |
Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
929
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:33:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Duran Lex wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters.... Something we're keeping in mind for sure going forward. Don't be surprised when you won't have aim assist. Controllers will be a secondary control method, so it more then likely won't have an aim assist, or if it does it will be negligible. They also won't put any restrictions on the kb/m so it will fly free as a bird. Controllers will not be a competitive method of input, but if you play casually there probably won't be an issue for you. I've been running with auto aim turned off already, I'll still back that controllers will be competitive still in Legion. DS3 WARRIORS UNITE!
You are currently playing a game that has aim assist as well as kb/m restrictions to attempt at evening the playfield between two inputs that have large disparities in efficiency.
Play a game that's removes those shackles, and you'll be singing a new tune.
Edit - on a side note, there are aim assisting software that you are unable to turn off. So even when you turn it off in the options, you will always have some sort of aim assist helping you. This is true with almost every FPS game on a console. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3085
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:33:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters.... Something we're keeping in mind for sure going forward. That would be cool! After 16 months of DUST I finally got good with the Controller. So how would that work? We plug the controller in using the USB cord and you include a driver to interpret the Controller signals as part of Legion?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
163
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:35:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:WhataguyTTU wrote:Duran Lex wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters.... Something we're keeping in mind for sure going forward. Don't be surprised when you won't have aim assist. Controllers will be a secondary control method, so it more then likely won't have an aim assist, or if it does it will be negligible. They also won't put any restrictions on the kb/m so it will fly free as a bird. Controllers will not be a competitive method of input, but if you play casually there probably won't be an issue for you. I've been running with auto aim turned off already, I'll still back that controllers will be competitive still in Legion. DS3 WARRIORS UNITE! You are currently playing a game that has aim assist as well as kb/m restrictions to attempt at evening the playfield between two inputs that have large disparities in efficiency. Play a game that's removes those shackles, and you'll be singing a new tune.
And I can't wait, they unlock the restrictions for KB/M so will controller.
I wish it was in a nearer future so we could "I told you so" to each other. =P |
Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:37:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters.... Something we're keeping in mind for sure going forward. That would be cool! After 16 months of DUST I finally got good with the Controller. So how would that work? We plug the controller in using the USB cord and you include a driver to interpret the Controller signals as part of Legion?
Thats cute. Youre taking your first steps into a larger world.
Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:43:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Just hope we can set which key does what. You can even if you are told you cant.
Exactly. Mouses and Keyboards these days lets you customize any button. In my Windows 7 at least.
Hitler decides to cancel DUST 514 on PS3
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Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
2156
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:48:00 -
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I'm all for having controllers in Legion. I'm almost 100% M/KB, but I have never flown a Jet in BF4 on my PC as well as I have with a XBox 360 controller. That said, I really really hope they don't implement any form of aim assist in Legion.
I for one cannot wait to finally be able to bind "1, 2, 3, 4..." to my weapons/equipment. That damn weapon/module selection wheel is one of my biggest peeves of M / KB in this game, not including the issues with mouse aiming.
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3262
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:51:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:I'm all for having controllers in Legion. I'm almost 100% M/KB, but I have never flown a Jet in BF4 on my PC as well as I have with a XBox 360 controller. That said, I really really hope they don't implement any form of aim assist in Legion.
I for one cannot wait to finally be able to bind "1, 2, 3, 4..." to my weapons/equipment. That damn weapon/module selection wheel is one of my biggest peeves of M / KB in this game, not including the issues with mouse aiming.
No raw input and/or aim assist would ruin the game from the get go.
Well that was fun
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
554
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:54:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters.... Something we're keeping in mind for sure going forward.
Appreciate this, some people like to use a gamepad instead of kb/m and that should always be supported! I love to use KB/M but the next guy might not, so it should be a non-issue for all.
Markdown:
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
165
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:54:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:I'm all for having controllers in Legion. I'm almost 100% M/KB, but I have never flown a Jet in BF4 on my PC as well as I have with a XBox 360 controller. That said, I really really hope they don't implement any form of aim assist in Legion.
I for one cannot wait to finally be able to bind "1, 2, 3, 4..." to my weapons/equipment. That damn weapon/module selection wheel is one of my biggest peeves of M / KB in this game, not including the issues with mouse aiming. No raw input and/or aim assist would ruin the game from the get go.
And unmodified restrictions to sensitivity.
I dunno if they still plan on going that route.... DUHHHH, heavy cant turn good DERR, I just blubbering buffoon. |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
7389
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:55:00 -
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inohahna mamotto wrote:Patrick57 wrote:"But, it's a PC game, so there should be no place for controllers!"
-Logic of Dust players who think having mouse and keyboard controls for Dust ruins the whole game. Did anyone say that you ******* roach?
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
933
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:55:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:
And I can't wait, they unlock the restrictions for KB/M so will controller.
I wish it was in a nearer future so we could "I told you so" to each other. =P
You don't quite understand.
There are no restrictions on the DS3 currently. Only additions to make aiming more fluid. There are restrictions on the KB/M to prevent it from overcoming the limitations that the DS3 has.
On Legion, the KB/M restrictions will be completely removed and more then likely the additions the DS3 have will also be completely removed. If not removed, the aim assist will be tapered back to a fraction of what it currently is in dust. This is the case with almost all PC games, because the controller is a secondary method of input.
CCP was one of the few, if not only, game company that tried to create two unbalanced inputs as a primary. This led to the KB/M being choked back to laughable levels compared to Unreal Tournament, and why DS3 has such a large impacting aim assist.
As you can tell from the history of CCP tinkering with it trying to find a balance between the two inputs, it failed horribly. I doubt they will try to do it again Legion. |
TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3262
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:57:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:I'm all for having controllers in Legion. I'm almost 100% M/KB, but I have never flown a Jet in BF4 on my PC as well as I have with a XBox 360 controller. That said, I really really hope they don't implement any form of aim assist in Legion.
I for one cannot wait to finally be able to bind "1, 2, 3, 4..." to my weapons/equipment. That damn weapon/module selection wheel is one of my biggest peeves of M / KB in this game, not including the issues with mouse aiming. No raw input and/or aim assist would ruin the game from the get go. And unmodified restrictions to sensitivity. I dunno if they still plan on going that route.... DUHHHH, heavy cant turn good DERR, I just blubbering buffoon.
Yeah that sounds a bit too good lol.
Eve legion confirmed no k/b and mouse support, only Atari joysticks lol.
Well that was fun
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3262
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:58:00 -
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Funny how they are called JOY sticks despite being a miserably clumsy pos lol.
Well that was fun
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
165
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:58:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:WhataguyTTU wrote:
And I can't wait, they unlock the restrictions for KB/M so will controller.
I wish it was in a nearer future so we could "I told you so" to each other. =P
You don't quite understand. There are no restrictions on the DS3 currently. Only additions to make aiming more fluid. There are restrictions on the KB/M to prevent it from overcoming the limitations that the DS3 has. On Legion, the KB/M restrictions will be completely removed and more then likely the additions the DS3 have will also be completely removed. If not removed, the aim assist will be tapered back to a fraction of what it currently is in dust. This is the case with almost all PC games, because the controller is a secondary method of input. CCP was one of the few, if not only, game company that tried to create two unbalanced inputs as a primary. This led to the KB/M being choked back to laughable levels compared to Unreal Tournament, and why DS3 has such a large impacting aim assist. As you can tell from the history of CCP tinkering with it trying to find a balance between the two inputs, it failed horribly. I doubt they will try to do it again Legion.
Well since they are actually considering it now, I'd hope it was included.
Also, thanks for taking your time to elaborate. So so far away though :'( |
Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
388
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:02:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Its a PC, of course you'll be able to use a controller, in fact you'll be able to use a wide variety of controllers.
XBOX, DS3, DS4, third party controllers... all sorts of gamepads will be supported. You'll have completely remapable keys as well I bet. The driver support, however, is an entirely different matter. Not to mention the issue of controller mapping not being custom made. I can't imagine CCP crunching out dedicated control schemes for Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3 and PS4 controllers.
Have you ever heard of DS3 tool? I've set my Ds3 up to where I can emulate a kb/m for older games like Morrowind. Anyway pretty much anything is possible with that program.
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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Forlorn Destrier
2427
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:17:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters....
This.
I have never played FPS before Dust because I don't like WASD controls. I tend to steer clear of PC games that are not turn based or point and click. Legion must have controller support on the PC for simpletons like me who can't grasp WASD. |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7923
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:19:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Can honestly say I prefer the controller.....
Please let us use controllers on legion.....do it for the original dusters.... This. I have never played FPS before Dust because I don't like WASD controls. I tend to steer clear of PC games that are not turn based or point and click. Legion must have controller support on the PC for simpletons like me who can't grasp WASD. It doesn't need to have Gamepad support for you to use DS3 (or any Gamepad for that matter).
Just use this
inb4 The Lock!
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