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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
534
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:44:00 -
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So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE?
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
404
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:47:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE?
Actually I'd rather see the elitist perceptions dissipate and the two games become a truly linked New Eden experience, where I have in-game friends and enemies everywhere.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
5188
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:50:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? Actually I'd rather see the elitist perceptions dissipate and the two games become a truly linked New Eden experience, where I have in-game friends and enemies everywhere. I'd like to see this happen after a good week of ass-whoopin.
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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
534
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:51:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? Actually I'd rather see the elitist perceptions dissipate and the two games become a truly linked New Eden experience, where I have in-game friends and enemies everywhere.
And i fail at telling jokes...
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
378
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:53:00 -
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The EVE players will completely fail at winning. They will likely try to get bots to play for them or something. Because even bots are better than capsuleers at playing Dust. |
Joey - Drien
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:53:00 -
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It is not made for any elitist players. Simply for a bigger range of audience. The main reason is that console were never made for such a huge things like the dust and it's vision. They are made for fast, action and easy games to have quick fun ... That is what not many console players realize. Only way for dust to become part of EVE Universe is PC. The EVE Universe is complex, has a deep backstory, lore and overall huge scale. I mean this only makes sense. There is no betraying... only reasons. Dust is still cool, and to be honest, for a console, it is hell of a game. But it can't really go much further in scale. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
378
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:57:00 -
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Joey - Drien wrote:It is not made for any elitist players. Simply for a bigger range of audience. The main reason is that console were never made for such a huge things like the dust and it's vision. They are made for fast, action and easy games to have quick fun ... That is what not many console players realize. Only way for dust to become part of EVE Universe is PC. The EVE Universe is complex, has a deep backstory, lore and the scale of things. I mean this only makes sense. There is no betraying... only reasons. Dust is still cool game, and to be honest, for a console, it is hell of a game. Quick and easy access doesn't mean lack of depth. That's just a logical fallacy and one of the subtler kinds of FUD that PC elitists love to smear. |
Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
534
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:01:00 -
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Joey - Drien wrote:It is not made for any elitist players. Simply for a bigger range of audience. The main reason is that console were never made for such a huge things like the dust and it's vision. They are made for fast, action and easy games to have quick fun ... That is what not many console players realize. Only way for dust to become part of EVE Universe is PC. The EVE Universe is complex, has a deep backstory, lore and overall huge scale. I mean this only makes sense. There is no betraying... only reasons. Dust is still cool, and to be honest, for a console, it is hell of a game.
Your missing what im saying...
Because legion is on PC it will draw in the EVE crowd that are anxious to play it...then we will be there waitng for them With our pprototype gear and **** to say
Its just as bad here as it is in EVE friend! Welcome to our turf fly boy
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
404
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:06:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? Actually I'd rather see the elitist perceptions dissipate and the two games become a truly linked New Eden experience, where I have in-game friends and enemies everywhere. And i fail at telling jokes...
lol yeah I guess I missed it. My mind is already at the "what's left of the DUST community will be a small part of a bigger Legion EVE Online community" stage
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Joey - Drien
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:11:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Joey - Drien wrote:It is not made for any elitist players. Simply for a bigger range of audience. The main reason is that console were never made for such a huge things like the dust and it's vision. They are made for fast, action and easy games to have quick fun ... That is what not many console players realize. Only way for dust to become part of EVE Universe is PC. The EVE Universe is complex, has a deep backstory, lore and the scale of things. I mean this only makes sense. There is no betraying... only reasons. Dust is still cool game, and to be honest, for a console, it is hell of a game. Quick and easy access doesn't mean lack of depth. That's just a logical fallacy and one of the subtler kinds of FUD that PC elitists love to smear.
You don't understand what I say, for any game to have a depth, there always has to be no limit on the technical side, to make it happen. Especially in the case of Dust or any CCP game. |
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Joey-Number1
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
97
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:12:00 -
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edit:
Minmatar Logistics since the beginning.
Mass Driver my first and the only fully specialized weapon.
Explorer.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5330
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:14:00 -
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I doubt it. Most Eve players on Dust are more adept than average because they already come equipped with the ideas of tactics, strategy and organic teamwork.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2168
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:15:00 -
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Because, you know, Eve players haven't played Dust at all. Nope...never. No Eve player would ever dirty themselves by touching a console amirite? |
Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
534
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:16:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I doubt it. Most Eve players on Dust are more adept than average because they already come equipped with the ideas of tactics, strategy and organic teamwork.
Referring to the mass that have yet to play
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
382
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:19:00 -
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Joey - Drien wrote:You don't understand what I say, for any game to have a depth, there always has to be no limit on the technical side, to make it happen. Especially in the case of Dust or any CCP game. I understand fully well what you are saying. And it's flat-out wrong. Many of the most intricate mechanics are done on consoles. Just look at Platinum Game brawlers.
The systems are better for certain genres, but that has jack **** to do with depth. PC is superior for RTS titles, for example, but it has deep games like Starcraft and C&C Generals alongside shallow turds like Planetary Annihilation. Meanwhile, consoles have plenty of fighting games that aren't possible with keyboard/mouse due to input systems that require too many buttons to be used at once. Many of these games also have huge amounts of depth.
A good developer will be able to make a deep game in any environment (...as long as it isn't an ATARI or something). The only advantage that PC has here is a lack of quality control and a lower barrier to entry. The latter lends itself well to random overcomplicated projects, like E.Y.E. - Divine Cybermancy, which is a game that is insanely complicated but has ****-all in terms of depth. Meanwhile, you have Steel Battalion on the original Xbox. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3027
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:19:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? And they will instantly turn around when 1 guy that has 60 mil SP stomps there whole team into the ground. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
624
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:22:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE?
You are assuming Captain Spreadsheets has any desire to tear himself away from his Veldspar mining. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
383
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:22:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? And they will instantly turn around when 1 guy that has 60 mil SP stomps there whole team into the ground. I would love a culture where Legion players actively try to harrass any EVE players that try to place foot on their turf. Imagine the hilarity of witch hunts whenever you are in a match or in the sandbox and find out that there's an EVE player running around with you. A whole match could come to a halt, with a message to everyone that there's an EVE player. Then everyone turns around and tries to murder the guy. |
Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
535
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:24:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? You are assuming Captain Spreadsheets has any desire to tear himself away from his Veldspar mining.
Veldspar mining is serious god damn business it seems...
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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Kira Takizawa
uptown456 Proficiency V.
193
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:26:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:Joey - Drien wrote:It is not made for any elitist players. Simply for a bigger range of audience. The main reason is that console were never made for such a huge things like the dust and it's vision. They are made for fast, action and easy games to have quick fun ... That is what not many console players realize. Only way for dust to become part of EVE Universe is PC. The EVE Universe is complex, has a deep backstory, lore and overall huge scale. I mean this only makes sense. There is no betraying... only reasons. Dust is still cool, and to be honest, for a console, it is hell of a game. Your missing what im saying... Because legion is on PC it will draw in the EVE crowd that are anxious to play it...then we will be there waitng for them With our pprototype gear and **** to say Its just as bad here as it is in EVE friend! Welcome to our turf fly boy
Stomp them to the point they quit please? Put them in more hell than you put your fellow mercs!
Story of the Merc
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
3861
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:27:00 -
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goodluck with that bro |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
893
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:27:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE?
I'm going to be making a posting about that later. That's why I liked that this wasn't on PC. We were the ground pounders, the console junkies. We were different from EVE players.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
627
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:29:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? And they will instantly turn around when 1 guy that has 60 mil SP stomps there whole team into the ground. I would love a culture where Legion players actively try to harrass any EVE players that try to place foot on their turf. Imagine the hilarity of witch hunts whenever you are in a match or in the sandbox and find out that there's an EVE player running around with you. A whole match could come to a halt, with a message to everyone that there's an EVE player. Then everyone turns around and tries to murder the guy.
I'd laugh even harder if CCP goes full hardcore and puts war barges into the game as EVE ships. Imagine the tears when a Hurricane gank squad burns a warbarge to ashes and all 500 mercs onboard go down without firing a shot. |
Hairy Butter
Fairy Fleet
95
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:30:00 -
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Alot of non-fps playing Eve players will HTFU and force themselves to learn, they are unlikely to leave because of getting their asses kicked from the beginning.
Some will just focus on Eve and enjoy the extra dimension that Legion will bring to the game, anything that ads to the depth (and width) of Eve is good, whether it kicks your ass or not. |
Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
535
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:31:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Sole Fenychs wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? And they will instantly turn around when 1 guy that has 60 mil SP stomps there whole team into the ground. I would love a culture where Legion players actively try to harrass any EVE players that try to place foot on their turf. Imagine the hilarity of witch hunts whenever you are in a match or in the sandbox and find out that there's an EVE player running around with you. A whole match could come to a halt, with a message to everyone that there's an EVE player. Then everyone turns around and tries to murder the guy. I'd laugh even harder if CCP goes full hardcore and puts war barges into the game as EVE ships. Imagine the tears when a Hurricane gank squad burns a warbarge to ashes and all 500 mercs onboard go down without firing a shot.
I remember them saying the orca was gonna be a functional war barge?
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
385
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:31:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? I'm going to be making a posting about that later. That's why I liked that this wasn't on PC. We were the ground pounders, the console junkies. We were different from EVE players. Yeah, I liked the idea of living in a different world. The guys on the ground, where equipment is priced in such low ISK values that a capsuleer would laugh and equip an entire squad with pocket change. We'd be weak and in far higher numbers due to the simpler nature of being a dustbunny, but the capsuleers would grudgingly need to accept that we are necessary to have around. The peasants that can sabotage their masters if they turn out to be asses. The console/PC distinction just made this even better, especially because of the ******** master race meme. |
Joey - Drien
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:08:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Joey - Drien wrote:You don't understand what I say, for any game to have a depth, there always has to be no limit on the technical side, to make it happen. Especially in the case of Dust or any CCP game. I understand fully well what you are saying. And it's flat-out wrong. Many of the most intricate mechanics are done on consoles. Just look at Platinum Game brawlers. The systems are better for certain genres, but that has jack **** to do with depth. PC is superior for RTS titles, for example, but it has deep games like Starcraft and C&C Generals alongside shallow turds like Planetary Annihilation. Meanwhile, consoles have plenty of fighting games that aren't possible with keyboard/mouse due to input systems that require too many buttons to be used at once. Many of these games also have huge amounts of depth. A good developer will be able to make a deep game in any environment (...as long as it isn't an ATARI or something). The only advantage that PC has here is a lack of quality control and a lower barrier to entry. The latter lends itself well to random overcomplicated projects, like E.Y.E. - Divine Cybermancy, which is a game that is insanely complicated but has ****-all in terms of depth. Meanwhile, you have Steel Battalion on the original Xbox.
I understand what you are saying. And I believe that my opinion is not wrong. Well, simply said. There are pretty big reasons why Dust had to be moved to PC. Research yourself. |
Joey - Drien
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:11:00 -
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Anyone can buy a PC today, it gets even cheaper than a console. Doesn't mean anyone is elitist. The same thing can be said basicly about console players. In the end nobody is elitist so chill. There are just reasons for Dust to be moved to PC, quite a bunch. Not just because they are already struggling with optimizing the performance as it is today. Another reason is for Dust to become part of the EVE Universe there has to be no limitations. There are many more reasons. |
Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
535
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:15:00 -
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Joey - Drien wrote:Anyone can buy a PC today, it gets even cheaper than a console. Doesn't mean anyone is elitist. The same thing can be said basicly about console players. In the end nobody is elitist so chill. There are just reasons for Dust to be moved to PC, quite a bunch. Not just because they are already struggling with optimizing the performance as it is today. Another reason is for Dust to become part of the EVE Universe there has to be no limitations. There are many more reasons.
Meh only time will tell
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
387
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:46:00 -
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Joey - Drien wrote:Anyone can buy a PC today, it gets even cheaper than a console. Doesn't mean anyone is elitist. The same thing can be said basicly about console players. In the end nobody is elitist so chill. There are just reasons for Dust to be moved to PC, quite a bunch. Not just because they are already struggling with optimizing the performance as it is today. Another reason is for Dust to become part of the EVE Universe there has to be no limitations. There are many more reasons. Yes, there are reasons. "Depth" or "PC is superior" are not reasons. They are elitist statements with no foundation in reality.
And I'm a defender of Legion's move to PC.
Also, your point about a PC being "cheap" is completely ******* pointless. It's not a matter of price, it's a matter of priority. I can get myself a 500Gé¼ PC or I can invest money in an SSD for my old PC (Which will be perfectly adequate for anything besides possibly Legion, if it's optimized even half as bad as the PS3 version) or I can use that money for something entirely different. Don't tell people that "PC is cheap" as if that removed the barrier to entry. Some people need to use their money for more than just entertainment.
Note that I'm still putting off the next gen consoles. I'll likely get them in the second generation, with lowered price. Or maybe I will finally get myself a full Windows 8 tablet. |
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Dr Dammit
Sognariket Logistics
19
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:12:00 -
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This is what will happen:
Dustie Squad Leader: "Alright guys! This is how it's going to go dow"BOOM! *Gets shot in the head by the Goonswarm spy*
Welcome to Eve. |
Hairy Butter
Fairy Fleet
97
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:21:00 -
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A pc is useful for alot more then gaming, and much better value for money for most gamers then a ps4, so much cheap/free entertainment available for a pc owner. |
Ian Kellein
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:21:00 -
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Hairy Butter wrote:Alot of non-fps playing Eve players will HTFU and force themselves to learn, they are unlikely to leave because of getting their asses kicked from the beginning.
Some will just focus on Eve and enjoy the extra dimension that Legion will bring to the game, anything that ads to the depth (and width) of Eve is good, whether it kicks your ass or not.
Yep, that's pretty much my plan, anyway. Been playing Eve for 8 years, bought a PS3 specifically for Dust but me and the ps3 controller don't get along for shooters, it turns out. Really hoping the unified character login thing takes off, since I'm well aboard the Rift train after trying Valkyrie.
I'm hoping Legion will be fun once the (legitimate) butthurt dies down. You console only guys who have stuck with Dust admittedly got shafted pretty hard by how this went down. |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7925
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:39:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? Actually I'd rather see the elitist perceptions dissipate and the two games become a truly linked New Eden experience, where I have in-game friends and enemies everywhere. THIS.
It's been over 70 years people. Let's let the ideals of the 3rd Reich die now.
inb4 The Lock!
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
5024
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:41:00 -
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Hehehehehe you're preaching to the choir bud.....
Count me in
PSN: jcptmo8055
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7925
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:42:00 -
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Joey - Drien wrote:Anyone can buy a PC today, it gets even cheaper than a console. Doesn't mean anyone is elitist. The same thing can be said basicly about console players. In the end nobody is elitist so chill. There are just reasons for Dust to be moved to PC, quite a bunch. Not just because they are already struggling with optimizing the performance as it is today. Another reason is for Dust to become part of the EVE Universe there has to be no limitations. There are many more reasons. People call the PC Players elitists simply because of their childishly elitist attitude towards anyone who doesn't play games on a Personal Computer.
Does the term 'PC Master Race' ring a bell?
inb4 The Lock!
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
668
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:43:00 -
[37] - Quote
Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? But we know that EVE player cannot be civil to themselves and have no empathy for those that play any game but their own.
STOMP THE POD PEOPLE.
If DUST514 has to die for it to be reborn as project LEGION
-I move we name it EVE: PHOENIX.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1415
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:44:00 -
[38] - Quote
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? Actually I'd rather see the elitist perceptions dissipate and the two games become a truly linked New Eden experience, where I have in-game friends and enemies everywhere.
Stop being sensible.
Jerk.
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Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
652
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:49:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I doubt it. Most Eve players on Dust are more adept than average because they already come equipped with the ideas of tactics, strategy and organic teamwork. Referring to the mass that have yet to play
I'm an eve player and I have a **** ton of SP in both
'#PCMasterRace
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medomai grey
WarRavens Final Resolution.
692
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Posted - 2014.05.05 22:57:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:Joey - Drien wrote:It is not made for any elitist players. Simply for a bigger range of audience. The main reason is that console were never made for such a huge things like the dust and it's vision. They are made for fast, action and easy games to have quick fun ... That is what not many console players realize. Only way for dust to become part of EVE Universe is PC. The EVE Universe is complex, has a deep backstory, lore and overall huge scale. I mean this only makes sense. There is no betraying... only reasons. Dust is still cool, and to be honest, for a console, it is hell of a game. Your missing what im saying... Because legion is on PC it will draw in the EVE crowd that are anxious to play it...then we will be there waitng for them With our pprototype gear and **** to say Its just as bad here as it is in EVE friend! Welcome to our turf fly boy Except you won't have proto gear. You didn't watch the progression fanfest presentation did you? EVE: Legion will be designed around tiercide philosophy.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
3057
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I doubt it. Most Eve players on Dust are more adept than average because they already come equipped with the ideas of tactics, strategy and organic teamwork.
Anyone else lol at this
Removed all hope with this post
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akira 1999
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
70
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:21:00 -
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hmm why the hate for eve players??
without people playing eve for the past 10 years the following 3 things would not have happened
1 eve Valkyrie for occulus or whatever VR headset they end up using would not have been made 2 dust 514 would not exist and you would not be here being a dicklord to other players 3 eve legion would never have been announced at all
it's like listening to 14 kids pissed at their parents because without the parents being together the kid would not exist at all.
lets just be clear here..
all games for all platforms will always have dicklords mouthing off the people who came before. bf3 players complain about bf2 players COD players hate BO2 players WOW players hate everyone who knew to not play that god awful game
and now dust 514 people are flaming on the people who helped shape eve into the game it is now... and from that they helped to make the last 2 years of dust possible.
stop being entitled PS3 players, it's a sad day when people are dicks on systems that only exist because the PC market pushed the boundaries of gaming technology to where it is now.
and PC gamers still push that boundary today. |
Chocol Mcdonnel
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
1
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:27:00 -
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akira 1999 wrote:hmm why the hate for eve players??
Go check the eveonline forums for dust 514, I'm sure you can understand even if a little
I say those that want to erase the smug face out of eve-only players, playing dust, should make an alliance/corp all filled with dust members That alliance/corp should be more experienced in the game
Note that I did not think further aside from that |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:30:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE?
dude, you can start an eve account and be killing eve players in 2 week.
pc gamers are soft.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:38:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Except you won't have proto gear. You didn't watch the progression fanfest presentation did you? EVE: Legion will be designed around tiercide philosophy.
No, it won't. Basic, Advanced and Prototype have been replaced by common, uncommon and rare. The levels are still there, but the refer to the rarity during looting, which makes them more valuable. Each piece of equipment has a meta level. An example given was equipping a high meta gun (equivalent to proto) on a fit with deliberately gimped meta level, in order to have a more powerful weapon than everyone else in a match that doesn't allow for high-meta fits.
I'm starting to feel like I'm the only guy who watched all the keynotes while everyone else was sperging around and channeling second-hand hatred. I actually channeled hatred while multitasking.
low genius wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? dude, you can start an eve account and be killing eve players in 2 week. pc gamers are soft. Why would I pay money to kill EVE players? I don't want to be like them.
Also, most Dust protostompers are really ******* bad at the game. I constantly murder them with militia gear. The only thing that saves them is numerical advantage and vehicles. |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:43:00 -
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Bro, you're a KBM user? If you're a controller user, they will probably eat you alive.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Roy Xkillerz
Red Star. EoN.
40
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:51:00 -
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I am a core pc player and even won money with 1 fps tournament in 2007. Also I did well in dust and been in 1% players at killzone. I just don't show off thats all.
I will play even better on the pc. Also I play eve for already 7 years.
Dust,Legion would never by possible without eve understand this very important.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
3029
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Posted - 2014.05.06 10:56:00 -
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The eilite of this communty will wield an obsenen ammount of power once the EvE null sec allinces realise we are a group they cant blap. I remeber the goons very quickly changing tune to the imperfects when we red lined them in under 2 minutes
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.05.06 11:16:00 -
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CCP can't fix the lack of balance between players on Dust, Your fooling yourselves if you think Legion will be a smooth ride... CCP fail producing Dust, then rather than hone what they have worked on, they offer Legion with new features they have no practice with...... World of Darkness - Fail, Dust514 - Fail, Legion - ???? CCP do the playebase you stole from a favour and sell Dust to producers capable of finishing games rather than getting bored and starting new ones - Forgive my lovely wall of text
'D1CK by name'
'D1CK by nature'
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
397
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Posted - 2014.05.06 11:32:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Bro, you're a KBM user? If you're a controller user, they will probably eat you alive. I play on controller, actually, despite considering it objectively inferior in dual-analog games and having spent the start of my Dust career as a sniper. In fact, sniper rifle is my only maxed weapon and my only prototype item. |
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Koshh Seere
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
0
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Posted - 2014.05.06 11:47:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Sole Fenychs wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? And they will instantly turn around when 1 guy that has 60 mil SP stomps there whole team into the ground. I would love a culture where Legion players actively try to harrass any EVE players that try to place foot on their turf. Imagine the hilarity of witch hunts whenever you are in a match or in the sandbox and find out that there's an EVE player running around with you. A whole match could come to a halt, with a message to everyone that there's an EVE player. Then everyone turns around and tries to murder the guy. I'd laugh even harder if CCP goes full hardcore and puts war barges into the game as EVE ships. Imagine the tears when a Hurricane gank squad burns a warbarge to ashes and all 500 mercs onboard go down without firing a shot. I remember them saying the orca was gonna be a functional war barge? The Orca is a functional war barge, learn to fit ships properly. |
Koshh Seere
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
0
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Posted - 2014.05.06 11:50:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? But we know that EVE player cannot be civil to themselves and have no empathy for those that play any game but their own. STOMP THE POD PEOPLE. Like the huge amount of empathy you are showing EVE players in your post? Pot meet kettle. |
Pvt Numnutz
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Posted - 2014.05.06 11:50:00 -
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I'm very excited to stomp them into the dust! They may be elite in eve but they are gonna have a lot to learn in legion! |
Kelestia Colvolian
DUST'S Rouge Wedding
114
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Posted - 2014.05.06 12:14:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:The eilite of this communty will wield an obsenen ammount of power once the EvE null sec allinces realise we are a group they cant blap. I remeber the goons very quickly changing tune to the imperfects when we red lined them in under 2 minutes
This is one of the things I shall be looking at very closely as Legion progresses. One of the things I love about DUST is that the Goons can't win it. DUST is ultimately a 16vs16 affair, therefore quality is everything. In EVE, quantity is everything. That's why the Goons have won because for any fight that matters, with the enemy having x ships, the Goons will always bring x+n ships (with n being whatever number the Goons need to annihilate their opponents).
If CCP keep Legion 16vs16, 32vs32 or even 64v64, we're alright and we'll have a fair crack at the whip. But if CCP make it so that a horde counts in anyway, that quantity triumphs quality, then we'll know that they're catering to the Goons and we might as well not bother playing because they'll already have won.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2014.05.06 12:22:00 -
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Kelestia Colvolian wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:The eilite of this communty will wield an obsenen ammount of power once the EvE null sec allinces realise we are a group they cant blap. I remeber the goons very quickly changing tune to the imperfects when we red lined them in under 2 minutes This is one of the things I shall be looking at very closely as Legion progresses. One of the things I love about DUST is that the Goons can't win it. DUST is ultimately a 16vs16 affair, therefore quality is everything. In EVE, quantity is everything. That's why the Goons have won because for any fight that matters, with the enemy having x ships, the Goons will always bring x+n ships (with n being whatever number the Goons need to annihilate their opponents). If CCP keep Legion 16vs16, 32vs32 or even 64v64, we're alright and we'll have a fair crack at the whip. But if CCP make it so that a horde counts in anyway, that quantity triumphs quality, then we'll know that they're catering to the Goons and we might as well not bother playing because they'll already have won. But protostompers are exactly that. A horde of players (6 to 12 people in a 16v16 game) with infinite amounts of money, coordination via dedicated communication tools and lots of SP, but no skill whatsoever. They can lose 1on1 against militia gear with equivalent prototype loadouts. That's how much their quantity shines over quality. |
Kelestia Colvolian
DUST'S Rouge Wedding
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Posted - 2014.05.06 12:29:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Kelestia Colvolian wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:The eilite of this communty will wield an obsenen ammount of power once the EvE null sec allinces realise we are a group they cant blap. I remeber the goons very quickly changing tune to the imperfects when we red lined them in under 2 minutes This is one of the things I shall be looking at very closely as Legion progresses. One of the things I love about DUST is that the Goons can't win it. DUST is ultimately a 16vs16 affair, therefore quality is everything. In EVE, quantity is everything. That's why the Goons have won because for any fight that matters, with the enemy having x ships, the Goons will always bring x+n ships (with n being whatever number the Goons need to annihilate their opponents). If CCP keep Legion 16vs16, 32vs32 or even 64v64, we're alright and we'll have a fair crack at the whip. But if CCP make it so that a horde counts in anyway, that quantity triumphs quality, then we'll know that they're catering to the Goons and we might as well not bother playing because they'll already have won. But protostompers are exactly that. A horde of players (6 to 12 people in a 16v16 game) with infinite amounts of money, coordination via dedicated communication tools and lots of SP, but no skill whatsoever. They can lose 1on1 against militia gear with equivalent prototype loadouts. That's how much their quantity shines over quality.
Yeah, but much of the problems with protostomping were consequences of the terrible matchmaking systems and relatively poor balancing mechanics. On those rare matches when you get probably balanced squads on both sides, even with proto equipment, DUST can be fun and run quite close.
That's part of what CCP need to get correct, right from the very beginning.
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.06 12:37:00 -
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When/if they port to ps4 after launch, you may very well have many Dust mercs rejoining the fight. We're not necessarily out of the fight yet, just on standby. Hopefully towards the end of beta they will begin working on the port so that they release within a few months of each other. It would be a beautiful thing to see ex-Dust mercs on two platforms handing out asspoundings to the EVE pilots trying to elbow into our turf.
We are the 514, and we will not forget
RIP Dust
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1457
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Posted - 2014.05.06 12:38:00 -
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akira 1999 wrote:hmm why the hate for eve players??
without people playing eve for the past 10 years the following 3 things would not have happened
1 eve Valkyrie for occulus or whatever VR headset they end up using would not have been made 2 dust 514 would not exist and you would not be here being a dicklord to other players 3 eve legion would never have been announced at all
it's like listening to 14 kids pissed at their parents because without the parents being together the kid would not exist at all.
lets just be clear here..
all games for all platforms will always have dicklords mouthing off the people who came before. bf3 players complain about bf2 players COD players hate BO2 players WOW players hate everyone who knew to not play that god awful game
and now dust 514 people are flaming on the people who helped shape eve into the game it is now... and from that they helped to make the last 2 years of dust possible.
stop being entitled PS3 players, it's a sad day when people are dicks on systems that only exist because the PC market pushed the boundaries of gaming technology to where it is now.
and PC gamers still push that boundary today. Just because your parent's brought you into the world doesn't mean they aren't dickheads. Just sayin'.
We are the 514, and we will not forget
RIP Dust
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
970
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Posted - 2014.05.06 12:44:00 -
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They'll try it. Given the attitude between our two communities, I'm inclined to agree with you.
The best thing we could do if Legion gets the go ahead is to get as many DUST vets as we can to drive their egghead faces into the dust.
DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
542
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Posted - 2014.05.06 12:52:00 -
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akira 1999 wrote:hmm why the hate for eve players??
without people playing eve for the past 10 years the following 3 things would not have happened
1 eve Valkyrie for occulus or whatever VR headset they end up using would not have been made 2 dust 514 would not exist and you would not be here being a dicklord to other players 3 eve legion would never have been announced at all
it's like listening to 14 kids pissed at their parents because without the parents being together the kid would not exist at all.
lets just be clear here..
all games for all platforms will always have dicklords mouthing off the people who came before. bf3 players complain about bf2 players COD players hate BO2 players WOW players hate everyone who knew to not play that god awful game
and now dust 514 people are flaming on the people who helped shape eve into the game it is now... and from that they helped to make the last 2 years of dust possible.
stop being entitled PS3 players, it's a sad day when people are dicks on systems that only exist because the PC market pushed the boundaries of gaming technology to where it is now.
and PC gamers still push that boundary today.
Again...
This thread is just for fun and lols...why can't people get that?
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
2462
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:02:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? Actually I'd rather see the elitist perceptions dissipate and the two games become a truly linked New Eden experience, where I have in-game friends and enemies everywhere.
eve players will be the worst blue berries for quite awhile...."but my spread sheets say I should be winning "
anyway there are a lot of eve players in dust now and they do fine, I'm not expecting much different in the long term from the new wave. |
noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
1513
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:04:00 -
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Or the go for a zerg rush in mlt suits against a legions equivalent of a boundless proto sentinel
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:16:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? Actually I'd rather see the elitist perceptions dissipate and the two games become a truly linked New Eden experience, where I have in-game friends and enemies everywhere. Stop being sensible. Jerk.
YOU'RE A JERK CYCLOPS-BOY
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:17:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Foley Jones wrote:So once this finally hits we will be greeted with all the elitist EVE players entering our territory...
All in favor of whooping their asses telling them to go back to EVE? Actually I'd rather see the elitist perceptions dissipate and the two games become a truly linked New Eden experience, where I have in-game friends and enemies everywhere. eve players will be the worst blue berries for quite awhile...."but my spread sheets say I should be winning " anyway there are a lot of eve players in dust now and they do fine, I'm not expecting much different in the long term from the new wave.
Yeah I wasn't addressing whether or not eve-noobs would be any good, I guess the whole egger vs. dust bunny thing is beginning to get on my ****. Hadn't realised it was such a big thing lol.
[edit] WTF I can't say t i t s ?
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
872
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:01:00 -
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You can't be competitive in both eve and dust. I have tried you burn your self out.
Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous
General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous
I'm famous in dead game.
WHYYYYYY
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
3070
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:22:00 -
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akira 1999 wrote:hmm why the hate for eve players??
without people playing eve for the past 10 years the following 3 things would not have happened
1 eve Valkyrie for occulus or whatever VR headset they end up using would not have been made 2 dust 514 would not exist and you would not be here being a dicklord to other players 3 eve legion would never have been announced at all
it's like listening to 14 kids pissed at their parents because without the parents being together the kid would not exist at all.
lets just be clear here..
all games for all platforms will always have dicklords mouthing off the people who came before. bf3 players complain about bf2 players COD players hate BO2 players WOW players hate everyone who knew to not play that god awful game
and now dust 514 people are flaming on the people who helped shape eve into the game it is now... and from that they helped to make the last 2 years of dust possible.
stop being entitled PS3 players, it's a sad day when people are dicks on systems that only exist because the PC market pushed the boundaries of gaming technology to where it is now.
and PC gamers still push that boundary today.
I wish that this game never came to fruition.....so I guess eve is to blame?
Removed all hope with this post
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7982
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:29:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: [edit] WTF I can't say t i t s ?
I can say tits.
Problem?
inb4 The Lock!
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2505
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:34:00 -
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Hmm, F2P AND on PC based on New Eden?
Sounds about right. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:50:00 -
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Atiim wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: [edit] WTF I can't say t i t s ?
I can say t its. Problem?
omg sorcery!
Haha nice I quoted you and your magic was revealed.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
8017
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:15:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: omg sorcery!
Haha nice I quoted you and your magic was revealed.
Just don't let the DEVs notice you doing it.
inb4 The Lock!
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DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:20:00 -
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My Incubus awaits them
I look forward to shattering the hopes and dreams of any would be pilot who isn't part of the Wings.
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Scheneighnay McBob
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
5007
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:41:00 -
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I support the older idea of making an alliance of vets called "Dust 514"
Should we make this more official?
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10176
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:44:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I support the older idea of making an alliance of vets called "Dust 514"
Should we make this more official?
While that is so......having an EVE player create the alliance...... defeats its inherent purpose.
Markdown:
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noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
1514
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:54:00 -
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Things we must show them.
a perfectly cooked core. a remote infested socket. the dread of a lvl 5 python pilot. The sentinel plus 2 core reps. the 10.7 mps shotgun. A lvl 5 minja with a pin cushion festish. The baby slayer. The punch of 4 complex blue pills. Two freedom mass drivers from above. Fatty taxi. a scr banishing ak.0 assault. the derpship splatathon. 5 ion maddies. nyan san. reg in a bad mood. The all seeing eye of a ck.0 scout. the strafe of a mim heavy. what a squad of full time scouts can do.
this may be worth the wait.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.05.07 11:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: omg sorcery!
Haha nice I quoted you and your magic was revealed.
Just don't let the DEVs notice you doing it.
Don't worry, they don't come in here :-o
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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