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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:00:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:I'm still completely refusing to believe that none of you own a PC.
You really expect me to believe that you pay $40 a month for an internet connection just to play console games and have Netflix? And that you post on the forums from your smartphone?
Sorry, no. Don't buy it. Lame excuse. What you believe or don't believe is of no concern to me, and has absolutely ZERO impact upon my decision.
Seriously.... stop lying. You own a bloody PC. If you don't want to use the damn thing for gaming, just freaking say so. Don't tell people you don't have one and act like that's a reasonable excuse to stay angry.
You're not reading and posting on these forums from a smartphone, either. Don't even try to give me that.
Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
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Soozu
5o1st
190
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:08:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:PonyClause Rex wrote:Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse.
Pros:
You still get to play a better Dust514
You now have a PC
A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too.
Better DPI with M/KB Input
You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke)
You can upgrade hard ware
Cons:
Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise.
All my online friends are on PSN
Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB.....
Adapting to KB/M input
PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate)
PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc I'm still completely refusing to believe that none of you own a PC. You really expect me to believe that you pay $40 a month for an internet connection just to play console games and have Netflix? And that you post on the forums from your smartphone? Sorry, no. Don't buy it. Lame excuse.
I have a new $3000 desktop, 3 - 40" flat screen TVs set up side by side, an Xbox 360, and 2 - PS3s with a $100 / month internet service.
Movies get played in the middle as does XBOX. Internet usually gets tossed left, right side is PS3 as is the far left when a friend stops by and plays DUST with me. My setup is already gold, but PS4 will be purchased when game come out. (was waiting for DUST to be honest)
Screw not having a PC buddy, I have one and I wouldn't touch CCP on my PC with a ten foot pole. I don't play games on a PC. Period.
PC = work and internets
Consoles = Games
Believe it buddy. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2724
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:12:00 -
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Jastaddd Death seeker wrote:Jastaddd Death seeker wrote:Phoenix 85 wrote:Here you go plebs What most people (and some ego boosted idiot like the guy above) don't understand IT'S NOT ONLY MONEY. I play FPS since they were born. FPS many of you have only ear about like Doom, Doom2, Quake and Quake 2-3 ETC ETC. That was only on PC. There is a reason why many people switched over console. It's Competition. When i get kill i want to know that the guy that kill me was in an equal play field. 2 problems rise with a PC game: the first and MOST important in a FPS are AIMBOT-TRIGBOT-WALLHACKZ, they are a nuisance in every Battlefield/COD etc etc Now imagine that ****** things in a MMOFPS where very death count. Cant possibly go well. The second one is that a consolle is a equal play field. You come with the same controller, the same CPU etc etc. On consolle you don't have to worry about 1000000 DPI mouse, or MACRO-keybord that can put you at disadvantage even before logging the game. And there is no way to balance this 2 thing. Copy/Paste from another thread.
I'll bite here.
If CCP puts a similar amount of effort into hack detection that companies like Valve do for TF2 or CS:GO - then aimbots will generally get banned within a few hours. Aimbot is too noticeable and too invasive not to get eventually noticed. If CCP permabans any account using hacks, then legitimate people will not risk their SP/AUR on hacking. Its a F2P game though and there will be hackers no doubt, I wouldn't surprised if there are hackers right now on the PS3 version (just because its harder doesn't mean its impossible),
So I don't know what a trig bot is... is that like rapid firing single pull and burst pull weapons? If so, **** we've got tons of peeps with turbo controllers... is there, functionally, a difference? Good game design on RoF limits is how they've dealt with turbo controllers in the past, I don't see how that would work any differently.
Wallhacks? Well that is definitely a legitimate concern as well, one that is much more difficult to detect. However, at the very least we have the tacnet and active scanning, so I would almost say we have built in wallhacks already. The only people who will truly suffer at highly dampened and cloaked scouts.
Hacking is definitely a serious concern, but I do believe the persistance RPGish nature of the game should help a bit in that regard as well. We can always set the meta level of our matches above what a new person can get into, there will be some hackers that will grinds for 20-40 hours to get into higher level matches before they start hacking but that's definitely going to make them fewer and further between.
TL:DR - with good software solutions and design implementations it will be possible to mitigate hacking. Its up to CCP to make that happen though of course.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1650
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:14:00 -
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Could play a mirage of games on my rig now. But No way I'm gonna say that Consoles don't get the best exclusives. PC get better FPS games, but then in that is marred by the damn hackers. (looking at you BF) They got sites dedicated to being a douche with aim bots, or better yet the more undetectable TRIGGER BOTS. Btw if you use trigger bots.. How bad does your life suck to have to use it?
"But PC HAS BIGGER LIBRARY OF GAMES" yeah. what kind of games? The 8bit indie's or the korean mmo's? No thanks.
Last is EVE online. Not a selling point for making PC look elite. just saying.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
863
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:44:00 -
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Already have a PC. I use it for work and tax purposes. No game will ever touch it. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
3119
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:49:00 -
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Have more than one nice computer already. Could easily walk out the door and buy a top of the line gaming rig right now.
But I don't want to play games on a PC. Get that through your head. It's a conscious decision based on any number of valid reasons, both objective and personal. So stop trying to convince me.
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
73
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:59:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Have more than one nice computer already. Could easily walk out the door and buy a top of the line gaming rig right now.
But I don't want to play games on a PC. Get that through your head. It's a conscious decision based on any number of valid reasons, both objective and personal. So stop trying to convince me.
Nobody's trying to convince you of anything but STFU'ing. Just leave if you don't want to be here. Full stop.
Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
222
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:00:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:I'm still completely refusing to believe that none of you own a PC.
You really expect me to believe that you pay $40 a month for an internet connection just to play console games and have Netflix? And that you post on the forums from your smartphone?
Sorry, no. Don't buy it. Lame excuse. What you believe or don't believe is of no concern to me, and has absolutely ZERO impact upon my decision. Seriously.... stop lying. You own a bloody PC. If you don't want to use the damn thing for gaming, just freaking say so. Don't tell people you don't have one and act like that's a reasonable excuse to stay angry. You're not reading and posting on these forums from a smartphone, either. Don't even try to give me that.
Again, believe me or not. I don't care, and it won't change my decision.
(fyi, I'm posting from work, and from a tablet at home so....) |
Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
73
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:00:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:Already have a PC. I use it for work and tax purposes. No game will ever touch it.
Great. Have fun not playing DUST anymore when PS3 shuts down for good.
Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
63
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:00:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:
"But PC HAS BIGGER LIBRARY OF GAMES" yeah. what kind of games? The 8bit indie's or the korean mmo's? No thanks.
Most AAA games get released on PC as well.
GTA, I really dotn care about, but I have seen modded GTA IV screens / videos that blow gta V out of the water, and GTA V is comming anyway for those that are into that kinda of games.
Not to mention games that are more "at home" in pc's, like the myriad of MMO's, strategy games and simulation games, as pretty much the majority of FPS's that matter that are on consoles are also on the PC.
Also, theres a lot of F2P to go thru, like Warthunder, World of Tanks, Hawken, Blacklight (100x better than CoD if you ask me).
Consoles are great too, but PC is the better platform.
I play on both, had a good time playing Last of Us. No need to chose one over another. But I ogtta say I spend a lot less and get a lot more out of an open system like the PC's than with a locked PS3. |
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
73
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:01:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:I'm still completely refusing to believe that none of you own a PC.
You really expect me to believe that you pay $40 a month for an internet connection just to play console games and have Netflix? And that you post on the forums from your smartphone?
Sorry, no. Don't buy it. Lame excuse. What you believe or don't believe is of no concern to me, and has absolutely ZERO impact upon my decision. Seriously.... stop lying. You own a bloody PC. If you don't want to use the damn thing for gaming, just freaking say so. Don't tell people you don't have one and act like that's a reasonable excuse to stay angry. You're not reading and posting on these forums from a smartphone, either. Don't even try to give me that. Again, believe me or not. I don't care, and it won't change my decision.
I don't want to change your bloody decision. I want you to grow up and stop trying to tear the community to the ground as you walk out. Just walk out, now, with whatever dignity you have left.
Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
63
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:02:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:Already have a PC. I use it for work and tax purposes. No game will ever touch it. Great. Have fun not playing DUST anymore when PS3 shuts down for good.
To be fair, PS3 is a nice Netflix box and bluray player. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
863
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:05:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:Already have a PC. I use it for work and tax purposes. No game will ever touch it. Great. Have fun not playing DUST anymore when PS3 shuts down for good.
LOL! I had fun not playing much Dust when it was on console.
Your post's grade is FAIL!
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2726
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:07:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:"But PC HAS BIGGER LIBRARY OF GAMES" yeah. what kind of games? The 8bit indie's or the korean mmo's? No thanks.
http://store.steampowered.com/
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
222
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:08:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:I'm still completely refusing to believe that none of you own a PC.
You really expect me to believe that you pay $40 a month for an internet connection just to play console games and have Netflix? And that you post on the forums from your smartphone?
Sorry, no. Don't buy it. Lame excuse. What you believe or don't believe is of no concern to me, and has absolutely ZERO impact upon my decision. Seriously.... stop lying. You own a bloody PC. If you don't want to use the damn thing for gaming, just freaking say so. Don't tell people you don't have one and act like that's a reasonable excuse to stay angry. You're not reading and posting on these forums from a smartphone, either. Don't even try to give me that. Again, believe me or not. I don't care, and it won't change my decision. I don't want to change your bloody decision. I want you to grow up and stop trying to tear the community to the ground as you walk out. Just walk out, now, with whatever dignity you have left.
F*ck you, I'll continue to post on these forums until I tire of trolling pussies like you, or until I get banned, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. |
Jastaddd Death seeker
NegativeKDR
23
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:35:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote: yeah sure i will post a link to cheats and haks.... lol
Do a quick google search for cod ps3 hacks and you will find them yourself.
I myself and some friends saw hacks on CoD Ghosts short after release on the PS3.
Hacks exist everywhere. Have to chose games that try to counter them and have a low occurency, thats all. On any platform.
Bullshit, all i hear is excuse.
IF they are so easy to find and proved working, posting it was prove to your statement 
i can post Hack and Cheat for the major FPS on PC, all you need is simply google it and watch the in action.
Stop trying to bullshitting me, like i said in the first phrase, i'm an OLD VET FPS player.
I can remember people going Matrix style with a Railgun in Q3 Arena and doing all Headshot.
i switched to console FPS simply 'cause people are on equal playground. And everyone saying different is simply lying.
If you want to tell me that a PC is superior to a console performance wise, yeah that can be true to a certain degree.
I hope you understand that CCPChina have to nerf the TAC AR in to oblivion 'cause they can't make the recognize a Mod controller over a fast tapping
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
559
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:46:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I prefer console. I already have a PC. I use it to code and do random school projects.
Console is where my entertainment is at.
Exactly pcs are for work and consoles are for games. |
Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
228
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:48:00 -
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I just want to know one thing:
How much support can we expect for Dust moving forward (if any), and for how long? |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
1569
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:50:00 -
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I am going to definitely stop spending money on Dust 514 but I'm not saving for PC I'm saving for games on my PS4.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2729
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:51:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:Joel II X wrote:I prefer console. I already have a PC. I use it to code and do random school projects.
Console is where my entertainment is at. Exactly pcs are for work and consoles are for games.
hm... that's so odd... i've logged thousands of hours of game time on my PC. A lot of that time is playing MMORPGs sure, but i've put in hundreds of hours on games that were also released on consoles (Dark Souls, Assassin's Creed, Portal, etc).
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2768
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:56:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Surt gods end wrote:"But PC HAS BIGGER LIBRARY OF GAMES" yeah. what kind of games? The 8bit indie's or the korean mmo's? No thanks. http://store.steampowered.com/
Oh Dear Look! Actua Soccer! Omg I might still have its case somewhere buried next to my "olivetti program 101"
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2213
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:57:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:Joel II X wrote:I prefer console. I already have a PC. I use it to code and do random school projects.
Console is where my entertainment is at. Exactly pcs are for work and consoles are for games.
It's interesting to see how tightly people cling to their dying beliefs. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1651
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Posted - 2014.05.05 16:03:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Surt gods end wrote:"But PC HAS BIGGER LIBRARY OF GAMES" yeah. what kind of games? The 8bit indie's or the korean mmo's? No thanks. http://store.steampowered.com/ Oh Dear Look! Actua Soccer! Omg I might still have its case somewhere buried next to my "olivetti program 101"
LOL Funny thing is I do check steam store every morning. and I usually respond with a "meh"
Prototype 2 is killing it in top sellers. HOW THE HELL?! Prototype 1 if far better then 2. Own it on for my rig. |
Csikszent Mihalyi
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
261
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Posted - 2014.05.05 16:37:00 -
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Jastaddd Death seeker wrote:Jastaddd Death seeker wrote:Phoenix 85 wrote:Here you go plebs What most people (and some ego boosted idiot like the guy above) don't understand IT'S NOT ONLY MONEY. I play FPS since they were born. FPS many of you have only ear about like Doom, Doom2, Quake and Quake 2-3 ETC ETC. That was only on PC. There is a reason why many people switched over console. It's Competition. When i get kill i want to know that the guy that kill me was in an equal play field. 2 problems rise with a PC game: the first and MOST important in a FPS are AIMBOT-TRIGBOT-WALLHACKZ, they are a nuisance in every Battlefield/COD etc etc Now imagine that ****** things in a MMOFPS where very death count. Cant possibly go well. The second one is that a consolle is a equal play field. You come with the same controller, the same CPU etc etc. On consolle you don't have to worry about 1000000 DPI mouse, or MACRO-keybord that can put you at disadvantage even before logging the game. And there is no way to balance this 2 thing. Copy/Paste from another thread.
Hacking is a real concern, but I'd like to add a few thoughts about that:
1) Generally the problem is exaggerated. Despite playing FPS for more than a decade, I have only encountered a handful of obvious cheaters. I have had my suspicions in some other cases yes, but I have been called a cheater myself a hundred times more than that, so I have learned to take this with a large grain of salt. People tend to go batshit if they encounter a real cheater on a pub, so those memories stick in their brains and mesh with their more common suspicious until it becomes "the game is riddled with cheaters" in their mind. Ultimately it's not that much of a big deal to change servers when you encounter an obvious hacker. There can be non-obvious cheaters, but if they are non-obvious it also means that they don't ruin the gameplay experience for everyone else.
2) Good anti-cheat tools actually work, eventually you are going to get busted. Of course you can make a new account, but building a legacy in a game with long-term progression by cheating is going to be near impossible.
3) If you are concerned about unbalancing the economy by exploiting new accounts with cheats to make a quick buck, then think about this: If the best player in the world creates a new account to stomp some newbs, would he become filthy rich? Of course not. Time investment is far more significant in this game than performance, so the harm that can be caused by hacking newbie accounts is negligible.
I know a lot of people think that hackers run rampant on the PC, but that hasn't stopped the PC from being the platform of choice for the most competitive shooters in the world. Ultimately this is far more a problem of perception than reality.
Now, regarding uneven playing fields: First of all, this problem again is exaggerated. When you are playing on the absolute top-level, then players like to optimise even the tiniest of factor to gain that miniscule edge over their competition. But ultimately, your comfort with your tools is a much bigger factor than a slightly more reactive keyboard, or five more frames per second. It's true that there are many factors which can negatively impact your experience if you neglect it completely, but getting to a competitive standard is neither difficult nor expensive. Especially these days where you can get excellent gaming equipment for cheap, e.g.:
One of the better gaming mice for 30 bucks (you can also get perfectly suitable gaming mice for $20, but I haven't tested those)
A perfect mouse pad for 15 bucks (or $6 for a classic favourite amongst top players)
Keyboard really doesn't matter, it's far more important that you got a comfortable desk and chair... oh and don't believe all the dumb marketing speech ("programmable", "macros", "supermegafancyswitches" etc). That's not what actually good players buy such equipment for, but for its ergonomy and basic functionality. E.g. all I ever use for my mice are the basic mouse drivers that come with the operating system, which hasn't stopped me from playing on a fairly high competitive level in the past. The less frills, the better. The main reason pro gamers play with all that fancy equipment is that they are getting sponsored to do so, not because they really have to.
More importantly, all of this is also true for console gaming. Some TVs are better than others, some headphones are better than others, some couches are more comfortable than others, and finally you can even use a mouse and keyboard in DUST (not to mention custom controllers, with stuff like rapid fire buttons and macros). A truly even playing field is a myth, even on a console. |
Rahl Draak
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
93
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:00:00 -
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PonyClause Rex wrote:Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse.
Pros:
You still get to play a better Dust514
You now have a PC
A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too.
Better DPI with M/KB Input
You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke)
You can upgrade hard ware
Cons:
Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise.
All my online friends are on PSN
Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB.....
Adapting to KB/M input
PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate)
PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc
Half of these rejects can't even pay their cell phone bill, and the other half use their welfare check for weed. You might be preaching on deaf ears.
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Nstomper
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
549
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:15:00 -
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not sure why ccp cant have dust and legion have the same exact content, i mean look at ffxiv for an example. Square Enix has 3 different versions of the game PC, Ps3, and Ps4, and all three of these versions have the same exact features , not to mention that all three of these platforms are connected together so the console players play together with the pc players and there is no PC Master race attitudes in that game at all. so my question is if Square can do it why is it that CCP cant?
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inohahna mamotto
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:24:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:not sure why ccp cant have dust and legion have the same exact content, i mean look at ffxiv for an example. Square Enix has 3 different versions of the game PC, Ps3, and Ps4, and all three of these versions have the same exact features , not to mention that all three of these platforms are connected together so the console players play together with the pc players and there is no PC Master race attitudes in that game at all. so my question is if Square can do it why is it that CCP cant?
i have honestly been wondering about that too |
Ender Storm
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
64
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Posted - 2014.05.05 20:16:00 -
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inohahna mamotto wrote:Nstomper wrote:not sure why ccp cant have dust and legion have the same exact content, i mean look at ffxiv for an example. Square Enix has 3 different versions of the game PC, Ps3, and Ps4, and all three of these versions have the same exact features , not to mention that all three of these platforms are connected together so the console players play together with the pc players and there is no PC Master race attitudes in that game at all. so my question is if Square can do it why is it that CCP cant? i have honestly been wondering about that too
I dont know FFXIV, its not my cup of tea, but its seems like an RPG, might me more lax on response time than a shooter, but I dont think that might be the reason.
I would bet maintaining the same game, especially one that is still in development (pretty much beta) would be a nightmare to do on multiple platforms. Also the "controler woes" probably dosent play the same role as in the FPs world, just see how much people cry about kbm vs ds3.
FF probably is a well packaged and defined game, with time to mature before hiting the market, with a bigger budget and financial support from its developer/publisher.
CCP runs pretty much alone on its own money.
finally, if it was that easy, it woud be common place, wich it isnt. |
Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
28
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:52:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:
PS3 has hacks too... but yeah, lets close eyes on that...
Well yeah, but its not about where the hacks are available, it's where the hackers PREFER TO PLAY. They will fool around and try to grief some console players of course, but they'd rather play on their pc's. And I guess they will sell them to other players, but I would guess 99% of the people that know how to find and set up a hack for a console game are probably PC gamers primarily.
Hacks for PC games are always going to be made faster, and by many more people. To be honest, I prefer the cheat protection pc developers are going to have for their games over whatever the console makers are going to use, just not sure CCP is up to the task of protecting legitimate legion players from hackers on pc given the history of bug fixes in dust. |
Scheneighnay McBob
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
5004
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:00:00 -
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Cons: I'll now have to keep both a PC and a console up to date- some of the best series are console only. Final Fantasy, for instance.
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