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Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5195	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:14:00 - [91] - Quote Jastaddd Death seeker wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Jastaddd Death seeker wrote: Jastaddd Death seeker wrote: Phoenix 85 wrote: Here you go plebs What most people (and some ego boosted idiot like the guy above) don't understand IT'S NOT ONLY MONEY. I play FPS since they were born. FPS many of you have only ear about like Doom, Doom2, Quake and Quake 2-3 ETC ETC. That was only on PC. There is a reason why many people switched over console. It's Competition. When i get kill i want to know that the guy that kill me was in an equal play field. 2 problems rise with a PC game: the first and MOST important in a FPS are AIMBOT-TRIGBOT-WALLHACKZ, they are a nuisance in every Battlefield/COD etc etc Now imagine that ****** things in a MMOFPS where very death count. Cant possibly go well. The second one is that a consolle is a equal play field. You come with the same controller, the same CPU etc etc. On consolle you don't have to worry about 1000000 DPI mouse, or MACRO-keybord that can put you at disadvantage even before logging the game. And there is no way to balance this 2 thing. Copy/Paste from another thread. Good post to put here. I no longer play Planetside 2 in part because of what you said here. The amount of hackers in that game is unbelievable. Their GMs can't even come close to keeping up with them all. As well, everyone is assholes to each other, and they take that ** outside the game on a constant basis. When I was playing the game with The Enclave, one time when we'd been beating up Goonswarm's P2 division for about an hour, they did a DDoS on the small server we were using for our website and TeamSpeak 3 server. As soon as our comms were down they tried to do this big push back out of their "safe zone". As another example, there was a bug in the game for a while that involved a larger group of APCs, a bunch of mines, and some well-placed C4. When you lit the whole thing off, it would DC everyone in the installation where you did it. I don't think I need to tell you how many times that one got thrown around. TEST pretty much made themselves famous for it. Yeah people tend to forget about Hack and ** for Christ sake, CCP can't even stop GJR from farming like ON A FORUM. Thats not a good presentation card The key difference is that Dust 514 uses server-side hit detection rather than client-side like virtually every other shooter. This means that client-side means of spoofing such as lag-switches and aimbots won't work because they only effect your client and not the server. Yes, I'm sorry all you guys that say you get killed in Dust because of hacks, but you can' actually hack hit detection in a game when it's being done by a server you don't have control over.
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 6	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:18:00 - [92] - Quote my computer is for work i play games on my playstation battlefield veteran but still a noob in this world
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 66	Posted - 2014.05.06 11:28:00 - [93] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Cons: I'll now have to keep both a PC and a console up to date- some of the best series are console only. Final Fantasy, for instance. I would say having both systems is a pro in itself. The added cost might be a con, if you live on limited funds. The maneintance, really, , both PS and PC's pretty much maintain themselves. Just dont go to pron sites to get viruses. And regarding jacking concerns, personal experiences might vary, but in my personal experience they are rare nowadays when the companies care about their games. Thats obviously less true with CoD/BF games where the company behind them is more interessed in pushing the next tittle than maintaining the old.
Cosgar 9270	Posted - 2014.05.06 11:45:00 - [94] - Quote Why get a PC just for more of CCP's pipe dream? There's tons of better PC games out there. Hell, it's almost not worth getting a PC at this point unless you're into modding. Cross platformng is going to be a thing in the near future. Call 1-800-345-SONY, press 2, then 2 again to get your money back if you bought AUR in the past 90 days.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 66	Posted - 2014.05.06 11:53:00 - [95] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Why get a PC just for more of CCP's pipe dream? There's tons of better PC games out there. Hell, it's almost not worth getting a PC at this point unless you're into modding. Cross platformng is going to be a thing in the near future. LOL? Why it would not be worth getting a new PC? It is as worth as getting a new PS4 (wich at this point has almost no games, better get it in a year or so). Sure, I agree that buying a new system just for 1 game isnt the best option, but an intelligent person would, if getting a new system, try other games I assume, its only natural. As you yourself said, "There's tons of better PC games out there". Yes, there is. Modding is a big pro on PC, but not the only one, theres entire genres that thrive mainly on PC if you are into that types of games, like strategy, mobas (hate them but they are big), simulation, mmo's. Sure, they may be not everyones cup of tea, but they exist and cater to many.
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 434	Posted - 2014.05.06 12:05:00 - [96] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: when it comes to FPS console>PC Absolutely incorrect. Chillin, waitin on Legion. Ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1457	Posted - 2014.05.06 12:19:00 - [97] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: when it comes to FPS console>PC Absolutely incorrect. Depends on the factors you are measuring. If you are going for realistic mechanics and hardware balance between players, console>PC. If you are going for the fastest turn speeds, unrealistic directional changes, unfeasible aim accuracy, higher framerates and greater graphics potential, PC>console. It just depends on what you are looking for. We are the 514, and we will not forget RIP Dust
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1510	Posted - 2014.05.06 12:44:00 - [98] - Quote Ender Storm wrote: Cosgar wrote: Why get a PC just for more of CCP's pipe dream? There's tons of better PC games out there. Hell, it's almost not worth getting a PC at this point unless you're into modding. Cross platformng is going to be a thing in the near future. LOL? Why it would not be worth getting a new PC? It is as worth as getting a new PS4 (wich at this point has almost no games, better get it in a year or so). Sure, I agree that buying a new system just for 1 game isnt the best option, but an intelligent person would, if getting a new system, try other games I assume, its only natural. As you yourself said, "There's tons of better PC games out there". Yes, there is. Modding is a big pro on PC, but not the only one, theres entire genres that thrive mainly on PC if you are into that types of games, like strategy, mobas (hate them but they are big), simulation, mmo's. Sure, they may be not everyones cup of tea, but they exist and cater to many. Totally agree about the mod community's most games have which make good games awesome and turn games like skyrim into visual monsters. I have pc ( built mostly for my art hobbies and 3d modelling and no its not a mac) but i play just single player games on it. For multi player I turn to my ps3 and ps4. I cant give up my controller. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Psn id marko_blues
Jastaddd Death seeker NegativeKDR 33	Posted - 2014.05.06 12:57:00 - [99] - Quote Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: Jastaddd Death seeker wrote: [quote=Jastaddd Death seeker][quote=Phoenix 85]Here you go plebs Keyboard really doesn't matter, it's far more important that you got a comfortable desk and chair... oh and don't believe all the dumb marketing speech ("programmable", "macros", "supermegafancyswitches" etc). That's not what actually good players buy such equipment for, but for its ergonomy and basic functionality. E.g. all I ever use for my mice are the basic mouse drivers that come with the operating system, which hasn't stopped me from playing on a fairly high competitive level in the past. The less frills, the better. The main reason pro gamers play with all that fancy equipment is that they are getting sponsored to do so, not because they really have to. More importantly, all of this is also true for console gaming. Some TVs are better than others, some headphones are better than others, some couches are more comfortable than others, and finally you can even use a mouse and keyboard in DUST (not to mention custom controllers, with stuff like rapid fire buttons and macros). A truly even playing field is a myth, even on a console. Since i'm in a hurry now i promise i expand my reply later Keybord matter too, trust me. And i know because i've tried it once (in realty a program to perform action simulating a macro, there weren't macro keyboard back then) and do the now forgotten practice of Rocket-Jump by pressing a single button (Aim down-JUMP-Shot) than have to actually aim down with your mouse and timing the Fire and the Jump.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 67	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:14:00 - [100] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: when it comes to FPS console>PC Absolutely incorrect. Depends on the factors you are measuring. If you are going for realistic mechanics and hardware balance between players, console>PC. If you are going for the fastest turn speeds, unrealistic directional changes, unfeasible aim accuracy, higher framerates and greater graphics potential, PC>console. It just depends on what you are looking for. TIL consoles are realistic.

tastzlike chicken Rogue Spades 259	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:18:00 - [101] - Quote Jastaddd Death seeker wrote: Jastaddd Death seeker wrote: Phoenix 85 wrote: Here you go plebs What most people (and some ego boosted idiot like the guy above) don't understand IT'S NOT ONLY MONEY. I play FPS since they were born. FPS many of you have only ear about like Doom, Doom2, Quake and Quake 2-3 ETC ETC. That was only on PC. There is a reason why many people switched over console. It's Competition. When i get kill i want to know that the guy that kill me was in an equal play field. 2 problems rise with a PC game: the first and MOST important in a FPS are AIMBOT-TRIGBOT-WALLHACKZ, they are a nuisance in every Battlefield/COD etc etc Now imagine that ****** things in a MMOFPS where very death count. Cant possibly go well. The second one is that a consolle is a equal play field. You come with the same controller, the same CPU etc etc. On consolle you don't have to worry about 1000000 DPI mouse, or MACRO-keybord that can put you at disadvantage even before logging the game. And there is no way to balance this 2 thing. Copy/Paste from another thread. Yup. Those are the games I played and those are the reasons I came to consoles. I support legion. - it's more of a theoretical support. Depending on the feedback I get, it may become actual support.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2504	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:51:00 - [102] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Joel II X wrote: I prefer console. I already have a PC. I use it to code and do random school projects. Console is where my entertainment is at. Exactly pcs are for work and consoles are for games. It's interesting to see how tightly people cling to their dying beliefs. PC is for general use, although you COULD specialize it. I use it for work because I can't do it on a console lol and I don't like gaming in PC in general. Hell, I prefer Minecraft in the PS3 rather than PC despite being an inferior version.
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 181	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:02:00 - [103] - Quote My preferences for console include: The much larger online community - even if it is mostly childish tantrum raging. It's the depth of competition and number of targets. Ease of use and disposability. 75% of my time spent on a console is covered under a warranty. If ** goes sour, I can send it off and get a new/refurbished one. I can even jump on Craigslist and buy a ready-to-use unit from a crackhead without *** up my rent money to keep me running in the meantime. As previously discussed, the ability to lay on the couch and relax away from the box that owns my employed soul. The standardization of the competition. Yes, hacks are prevalent on all platforms. More so on PC. I like being able to know that wins and losses are less often decided by input method and more by luck and skill. Affordability and flexibility. As a parent of little future gamers, it's nice to be able to pick up a copy of some irrelevant kids' game for $10 and play alongside them and experience it with them. Then, put them to bed and get ** faced and play with my homedudes and slay some Aussie kids. PC does provide the facilities for much better software, but it's just not as convenient. That convenience is huge - and a huge factor, as well. GG, everybody. Best of luck to all of my One-Armed Bandits, my homies in SAM-MIK, and all the Logis in the Funzone.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 67	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:15:00 - [104] - Quote Yeah I agree that consoles are nicer on the living room, especially if you use it for socialization with visitors / family. Not saying the same isnt possible with PC's, bur they arent as convenient. Perhaps future Steam boxes change that, but thats not yet a thing. Still, I like having my man cave, where I can withdrawn from the world and concentrate for a few hours without worrying about whats going on in the house, whos crossing my livingroom, letting my wife watch her netflix, etc. I think the "standardization" of competition argument is somewhat exaggerated. There will be people with advantages in all platforms, but that really dosent mean they will be able to seize the advantage. Consoles have all sorts of different input methods as well, cheap and accessible. If they these adapttions are good or not on console comes down to how well you adjust to it, how well you can levarage that advantage. Some people will say its gold, others will say its crap. Its like saying, on the PC, a high mega super DPI mouse will give you an immediate advantage. I disagree, and I play on a med, regular DPI mouse that isnt even a gamer mouse without problems.
Marc Rime 383	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:38:00 - [105] - Quote PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Uhm, just how much do you think the average player spends on aurum in one year? Besides, some people (me included) just prefer playing on a console.
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:59:00 - [106] - Quote PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Pros: You still get to play a better Dust514 You now have a PC A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too. Better DPI with M/KB Input You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke) You can upgrade hard ware Cons: Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise. All my online friends are on PSN Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB..... Adapting to KB/M input PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate) PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc Hey, PC dumbfuck, there's A LOT BETTER REASONS TO BUY A PC THEN LEGION. And I still didn't, wonder why? Stop being a rich white boy prick and never ask people to buy something expensive again to keep up, elitist jerk.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 69	Posted - 2014.05.06 15:03:00 - [107] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Pros: You still get to play a better Dust514 You now have a PC A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too. Better DPI with M/KB Input You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke) You can upgrade hard ware Cons: Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise. All my online friends are on PSN Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB..... Adapting to KB/M input PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate) PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc Hey, PC dumbfuck, there's A LOT BETTER REASONS TO BUY A PC THEN LEGION. And I still didn't, wonder why? Stop being a rich white boy prick and never ask people to buy something expensive again to keep up, elitist jerk. If a PC is expensive, so is the PS4.
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 161	Posted - 2014.05.06 15:03:00 - [108] - Quote PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Pros: You still get to play a better Dust514 You now have a PC A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too. Better DPI with M/KB Input You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke) You can upgrade hard ware Cons: Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise. All my online friends are on PSN Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB..... Adapting to KB/M input PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate) PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc I got out of pc gaming back in the mid 2000. And I'm glad I did. It's perhaps the costliest investment I've ever made. No one game is worth going back to pc. And a $300 rig will not run Legion in its full potential. If you can't run this game, or any other high profile game with max settings without a drop in framerate. Then it's not worth investing. A lot of the newer games are starting to push graphics to the next level. Every owner put there who's built their own pc's is a essential a whole different system. It's like having hundreds of different PlayStations out there and none of them are the same. And all the variations of software, drivers, etc..it's no wonder pc games get contant bug issues. But it's the hardware upgrades in the long term that gets you. There's a reason why pc games have a "recommended" spec for your pc. Because if you don't have that. You're not running smooth. Legion needs to hit the PS4 sooner than later. There's a lot of horsepower under that hood that can handle Legion. The later CCP ports this over to PS4 means that they'll have spent less time knowing the system to max it's potential. PC's aren't worth one game.
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2014.05.06 15:04:00 - [109] - Quote Ender Storm wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Pros: You still get to play a better Dust514 You now have a PC A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too. Better DPI with M/KB Input You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke) You can upgrade hard ware Cons: Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise. All my online friends are on PSN Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB..... Adapting to KB/M input PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate) PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc Hey, PC dumbfuck, there's A LOT BETTER REASONS TO BUY A PC THEN LEGION. And I still didn't, wonder why? Stop being a rich white boy prick and never ask people to buy something expensive again to keep up, elitist jerk. If a PC is expensive, so is the PS4. PS4 = 400 Decent PC = 800 Or you can waste money, get a cheap PC that'll be dated in a few years, and torture yourself. I think you honestly believe your own crap, sad.
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 161	Posted - 2014.05.06 15:24:00 - [110] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: Ender Storm wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Pros: You still get to play a better Dust514 You now have a PC A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too. Better DPI with M/KB Input You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke) You can upgrade hard ware Cons: Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise. All my online friends are on PSN Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB..... Adapting to KB/M input PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate) PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc Hey, PC dumbfuck, there's A LOT BETTER REASONS TO BUY A PC THEN LEGION. And I still didn't, wonder why? Stop being a rich white boy prick and never ask people to buy something expensive again to keep up, elitist jerk. If a PC is expensive, so is the PS4. PS4 = 400 Decent PC = 800 Or you can waste money, get a cheap PC that'll be dated in a few years, and torture yourself. I think you honestly believe your own crap, sad. This.

Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 69	Posted - 2014.05.06 16:50:00 - [111] - Quote Jake Diesel wrote: PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Pros: You still get to play a better Dust514 You now have a PC A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too. Better DPI with M/KB Input You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke) You can upgrade hard ware Cons: Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise. All my online friends are on PSN Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB..... Adapting to KB/M input PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate) PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc I got out of pc gaming back in the mid 2000. And I'm glad I did. It's perhaps the costliest investment I've ever made. No one game is worth going back to pc. And a $300 rig will not run Legion in its full potential. If you can't run this game, or any other high profile game with max settings without a drop in framerate. Then it's not worth investing. A lot of the newer games are starting to push graphics to the next level. Every owner out there who's built their own pc is a essentially a whole different system. It's like having hundreds of different PlayStations out there and none of them are the same. And all the variations of software, drivers, etc..it's no wonder pc games get contant bug issues. But it's the hardware upgrades in the long term that gets you. There's a reason why pc games have a "recommended" spec for your pc. Because if you don't have that. You're not running smooth. Legion needs to hit the PS4 sooner than later. There's a lot of horsepower under that hood that can handle Legion. The later CCP ports this over to PS4 means that they'll have spent less time knowing the system to max it's potential. PC's aren't worth one game. I hope you are aware that a PS4 is no better than a $600 PC, that a PS4 wont play a game on its maximum settings, and that a PS4 is non upgradable.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 69	Posted - 2014.05.06 16:54:00 - [112] - Quote Jake Diesel wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: Ender Storm wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Pros: You still get to play a better Dust514 You now have a PC A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too. Better DPI with M/KB Input You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke) You can upgrade hard ware Cons: Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise. All my online friends are on PSN Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB..... Adapting to KB/M input PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate) PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc Hey, PC dumbfuck, there's A LOT BETTER REASONS TO BUY A PC THEN LEGION. And I still didn't, wonder why? Stop being a rich white boy prick and never ask people to buy something expensive again to keep up, elitist jerk. If a PC is expensive, so is the PS4. PS4 = 400 Decent PC = 800 Or you can waste money, get a cheap PC that'll be dated in a few years, and torture yourself. I think you honestly believe your own crap, sad. This. Here you go, about $400 to beat a PS4, if dot already own a kbm. if not add some $60 more. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3EPNf
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 161	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:15:00 - [113] - Quote Ender Storm wrote: Jake Diesel wrote: PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Pros: You still get to play a better Dust514 You now have a PC A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too. Better DPI with M/KB Input You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke) You can upgrade hard ware Cons: Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise. All my online friends are on PSN Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB..... Adapting to KB/M input PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate) PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc I got out of pc gaming back in the mid 2000. And I'm glad I did. It's perhaps the costliest investment I've ever made. No one game is worth going back to pc. And a $300 rig will not run Legion in its full potential. If you can't run this game, or any other high profile game with max settings without a drop in framerate. Then it's not worth investing. A lot of the newer games are starting to push graphics to the next level. Every owner out there who's built their own pc is a essentially a whole different system. It's like having hundreds of different PlayStations out there and none of them are the same. And all the variations of software, drivers, etc..it's no wonder pc games get contant bug issues. But it's the hardware upgrades in the long term that gets you. There's a reason why pc games have a "recommended" spec for your pc. Because if you don't have that. You're not running smooth. Legion needs to hit the PS4 sooner than later. There's a lot of horsepower under that hood that can handle Legion. The later CCP ports this over to PS4 means that they'll have spent less time knowing the system to max it's potential. PC's aren't worth one game. I hope you are aware that a PS4 is no better than a $600 PC, that a PS4 wont play a game on its maximum settings, and that a PS4 is non upgradable. I am fully aware of all that. I used to build my own pc's. And not upgrading the internals IS the reason I got the PS4. Better for the long run. Plus, unless you're running some high end screen, you'll never get beyond 1080p which I like to run on my 50" LED screen.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2751	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:18:00 - [114] - Quote Jake Diesel wrote: I am fully aware of all that. I used to build my own pc's. And not upgrading the internals IS the reason I got the PS4. Better for the long run. Plus, unless you're running some high end screen, you'll never get beyond 1080p which I like to run on my 50" LED screen. Better for the long run? You know we're in 'the long run' of the PS3 right?
Void Echo Total Extinction 2527	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:19:00 - [115] - Quote I will never play an FPS on PC. If i want to play an FPS il stick to consoles. Plus i dont have any friends on PC so it would basically be nothing lost nothing gained. Closed Beta Vet. Dust Bunnie to the end. Someone has to stay on the sinking ship till everyone is safe. :P
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 69	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:27:00 - [116] - Quote Jake Diesel wrote: Ender Storm wrote: Jake Diesel wrote: PonyClause Rex wrote: Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse. Pros: You still get to play a better Dust514 You now have a PC A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too. Better DPI with M/KB Input You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke) You can upgrade hard ware Cons: Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise. All my online friends are on PSN Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB..... Adapting to KB/M input PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate) PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc I got out of pc gaming back in the mid 2000. And I'm glad I did. It's perhaps the costliest investment I've ever made. No one game is worth going back to pc. And a $300 rig will not run Legion in its full potential. If you can't run this game, or any other high profile game with max settings without a drop in framerate. Then it's not worth investing. A lot of the newer games are starting to push graphics to the next level. Every owner out there who's built their own pc is a essentially a whole different system. It's like having hundreds of different PlayStations out there and none of them are the same. And all the variations of software, drivers, etc..it's no wonder pc games get contant bug issues. But it's the hardware upgrades in the long term that gets you. There's a reason why pc games have a "recommended" spec for your pc. Because if you don't have that. You're not running smooth. Legion needs to hit the PS4 sooner than later. There's a lot of horsepower under that hood that can handle Legion. The later CCP ports this over to PS4 means that they'll have spent less time knowing the system to max it's potential. PC's aren't worth one game. I hope you are aware that a PS4 is no better than a $600 PC, that a PS4 wont play a game on its maximum settings, and that a PS4 is non upgradable. I am fully aware of all that. I used to build my own pc's. And not upgrading the internals IS the reason I got the PS4. Better for the long run. Plus, unless you're running some high end screen, you'll never get beyond 1080p which I like to run on my 50" LED screen. Upgrading the internals is a choice. You really dont need to, its an option. Like, my gpu GTX 570 has already 2 years in it, and I know it still has power in it to continue going. It wont run at max some games, but many games do run in max and I have no complaints about it. My CPU is still an E8400. Again no complaints over it, and the feel to upgrade to an i5 or i7 is purelly a buy desire, not a necessity. Ram, my Ram is only 4gb, it runs things ok, I could use an ram upgrade, but chose not and bling my PC next year no a net build, more out of a desire for a new toy than out of necessity. nd the good thing is that half my parts will carry over.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 70	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:34:00 - [117] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Jake Diesel wrote: I am fully aware of all that. I used to build my own pc's. And not upgrading the internals IS the reason I got the PS4. Better for the long run. Plus, unless you're running some high end screen, you'll never get beyond 1080p which I like to run on my 50" LED screen. Better for the long run? You know we're in 'the long run' of the PS3 right? Jake Diesel wrote: If you can't run this game, or any other high profile game with max settings without a drop in framerate. Then it's not worth investing. Why? When a PC version on medium graphics is already better than the PS4 in many cases today, would you HAVE to run every game on maximum graphics? You know the PS4 can't render in 1080p? It has to render in 720p and upscale that to your TVs native resolution. Even though it has low level API access (something PCs don't have yet) it still can't keep up with a mid range PC. In 3-4 more years people are gonna be complaining about the PS4 like they are complaining about the PS3... Yeah, and very soon the low level API will be common on PC, as the API isnt exclusive to the consoles. AMD has mantle already on their new cards, and Microsoft is due to release the new directX API wich will make use as well of low level API's, thus widening even more the gap as any application coded with DX will have the ability to use that boost, aka it will probablt be manufacturer independant.
Jastaddd Death seeker NegativeKDR 40	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:43:00 - [118] - Quote Ender Storm wrote: Here you go, about $400 to beat a PS4, if not already own a kbm. if not add some $60 more. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3EPNf for other base builds http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/wiki/builds Of course, you can bling a build to oblivion if you hav emoney for it to extract every bit of detail, but if you want the Ps4 experience, this will sufice. I love peole that read what they link!!! in your second Link Revision 3! A small form factor Home Theater PC ideal for light gaming, oldschool gaming, console emulators, streaming, and making use of Steam's In-Home Streaming feature (currently in beta). Please note: this is not designed as a primary gaming system, and is not built like one. The small case, built-in PSU, and APU drastically limit upgrade potential, and the performance is below that of the next-gen consoles. However, it is capable of modern games and it is much stronger than the last-gen consoles.
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 285	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:49:00 - [119] - Quote Jastaddd Death seeker wrote: Jastaddd Death seeker wrote: Phoenix 85 wrote: Here you go plebs What most people (and some ego boosted idiot like the guy above) don't understand IT'S NOT ONLY MONEY. I play FPS since they were born. FPS many of you have only ear about like Doom, Doom2, Quake and Quake 2-3 ETC ETC. That was only on PC. There is a reason why many people switched over console. It's Competition. When i get kill i want to know that the guy that kill me was in an equal play field. 2 problems rise with a PC game: the first and MOST important in a FPS are AIMBOT-TRIGBOT-WALLHACKZ, they are a nuisance in every Battlefield/COD etc etc Now imagine that ****** things in a MMOFPS where very death count. Cant possibly go well. The second one is that a consolle is a equal play field. You come with the same controller, the same CPU etc etc. On consolle you don't have to worry about 1000000 DPI mouse, or MACRO-keybord that can put you at disadvantage even before logging the game. And there is no way to balance this 2 thing. Copy/Paste from another thread.
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 162	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:55:00 - [120] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Jake Diesel wrote: I am fully aware of all that. I used to build my own pc's. And not upgrading the internals IS the reason I got the PS4. Better for the long run. Plus, unless you're running some high end screen, you'll never get beyond 1080p which I like to run on my 50" LED screen. Better for the long run? You know we're in 'the long run' of the PS3 right? Jake Diesel wrote: If you can't run this game, or any other high profile game with max settings without a drop in framerate. Then it's not worth investing. Why? When a PC version on medium graphics is already better than the PS4 in many cases today, would you HAVE to run every game on maximum graphics? You know the PS4 can't render in 1080p? It has to render in 720p and upscale that to your TVs native resolution. Even though it has low level API access (something PCs don't have yet) it still can't keep up with a mid range PC. In 3-4 more years people are gonna be complaining about the PS4 like they are complaining about the PS3... Actually, the max resolution I would even care for would be 1080p. And where exactly are you getting your info regarding "rendering" at 720p and upscaling? When pretty much every developer, including Hideo Kojima of MGS Ground Zeroes stated that the PS4 "renders" in 1080p. Is there some secret pc lingo I don't know about where the term "render" means two different things?



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