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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3002	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:52:00 - [1] - Quote I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything. But I don't play games on it. Why? I want come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it. So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:53:00 - [2] - Quote Churr.
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13923	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:54:00 - [3] - Quote Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. LONG LIVE LEGION!
Nstomper Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 529	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:55:00 - [4] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything. But I don't play games on it. Why? I want come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it. So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this. this, i love laying on my comfortable couch playing video than sitting in a uncomfortable position slanted over a keyboard for hours
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 604	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:58:00 - [5] - Quote Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3005	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:59:00 - [6] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't ***** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3005	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:01:00 - [7] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. Tell yourself that. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13924	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:01:00 - [8] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't *** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. And what could possibly make you think that Legion will stay on the PC for forever? As for your living situation, that's on you, I can't help you there lol. Mancave? LONG LIVE LEGION!**
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3005	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:07:00 - [9] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't ***** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. And what could possibly make you think that Legion will stay on the PC for forever? As for your living situation, that's on you, I can't help you there lol. Mancave? What makes you think Legion will not be as broken as Dust? Or come out in less than 2 years? There's always more questions than answers with CCP. If they put Legion on the PS4 (which is where I fully expected Dust to be by 2015) and migrate my character, I'll give it a shot. Doesn't make CCP any less douchy tho. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13926	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:11:00 - [10] - Quote I'll be the last person to defend how CCP went about all of this, all I'm saying is that for me, personally, this was basically the best case scenario. I really hope they manage to port it to PS4 as well, I really do, but for right now, PC is what will allow them the flexibility and breathing room to actually bring us the original vision. I was sold on that vision, and I was just about to set DUST down for good because I knew it would never be able to live up to that vision. CCP restored my hope with Legion. I'm still skeptical, I still have no plans of throwing my money at them any time soon, but for me, I couldn't ask for better news (again, not HOW that news was given) It sucks for console only players, no doubt, and they have every right to be upset. However, I think CCP made the right call here, if from no other perspective than a business one. DUST would never compete with next gen games. Legion will give them a run for their money. LONG LIVE LEGION!

Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 163	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:12:00 - [11] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't ***** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. And what could possibly make you think that Legion will stay on the PC for forever? As for your living situation, that's on you, I can't help you there lol. Mancave? What makes you think Legion will not be as broken as Dust? Or come out in less than 2 years? There's always more questions than answers with CCP. If they put Legion on the PS4 (which is where I fully expected Dust to be by 2015) and migrate my character, I'll give it a shot. Doesn't make CCP any less douchy tho. ^This. It might be a different platform, but it's still the same old CCP.
Nstomper Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 530	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:18:00 - [12] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. Ive been reading the eve forums for the past few days and im sure you guys are the ones that need to get re educated, all of us ps3 players knew it would die on ps3 thats why we were hoping for a ps4 version, but of course you idiots on the eve forum kept having the idiotic mind set that we wanted this to stay on a piece of junk old console and yet doing so you guys did nothing but stroke you're close to non existent p**nises. I almost died laughing at that one post where a eve player thought that proto gear was "pay to win"and thats why a sub should be in the legion.
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 631	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:24:00 - [13] - Quote HDMI and VGA are pretty sweet I'm playing eve on a laptop that cost less than your ps3 and it has a smashed screen it's pretty awesome Rabblerabblerabblerabble '#PCMasterRace
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7769	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:24:00 - [14] - Quote Beeeees wrote: You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. Atiim wrote: You know what that reminds me of? What the Germans told the Jewish What the French told the Haitians What the Americans told the Africans What the KKK tell just about every ethnicity I really hope you aren't one of those people in real life. CCP Rouge (Crowd Control Productions - 'Neo' EVE: Legion) DUST 514 Spent money? Call 1-800-345-SONY for refunds
Cinnamon267 185	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:26:00 - [15] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: But I don't play games on it. Why? I want come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherfcking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it. Then hook it up to your TV via HDMI and play it on your couch. You can still put your feet up on your coffee table and do everything you are doing now. Why the * are people so ignorant to this? Why is this so hard for some people? Jesus. John Demonsbane wrote:** So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent You are. You've been able to buy DVI to HDMI dongles as early as 2008. Now all cards come with an HDMI port on them. Stop acting like that is preventing you from doing anything. Your own incompetence is.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1753	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:26:00 - [16] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't ***** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. I imagined it going to the PS4 first...Easy transition. Another console by the same creators. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13926	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:36:00 - [17] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't *** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. I imagined it going to the PS4 first...Easy transition. Another console by the same creators. Except the PS4 resembles a PC far more than a PS3. It would be much easier to port a fleshed out next gen game from PC to PS4 then an old, buggy, outdated PS3 game to the PS4 LONG LIVE LEGION!**
Alucard Fang Sanguis Defense Syndicate 302	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:50:00 - [18] - Quote "I want come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it." Which you could do with a PC.
Spark Kincade Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 19	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:57:00 - [19] - Quote Hook a PC up to your TV, consoles these days are basically limited PCs anyway. Steam Big Picture mode plus Windows 8 makes that possible, nearly every game now has controller support.
Rraymondo316 Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:05:00 - [20] - Quote Spark Kincade wrote: nearly every game now has controller support. Lets be honest who would actually wanna play a FPS on PC with a controller You would get absolutely mullered by all the k&m players

DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13932	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:06:00 - [21] - Quote Rraymondo316 wrote: Spark Kincade wrote: nearly every game now has controller support. Lets be honest who would actually wanna play a FPS on PC with a controller You would get absolutely mullered by all the k&m players Unless you fly a dropship LONG LIVE LEGION!
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 136	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:06:00 - [22] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: "I want come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it." Which you could do with a PC. Did it today with my PC.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2698	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:07:00 - [23] - Quote I play plenty of PC games on my living room TV. Its not hard at all. Monoprice ftw. '#PCMasterRace 5/2/2014 - Best day in Dust's history Thank you CCP Rouge.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1523	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:08:00 - [24] - Quote Why are people more concerned with "DUST is a PC game" rather than "Legion is a separate game and DUST 514 is not going to be what it was promised"? One is a gripe about different machines and another is a gripe about how CCP has no respect for their customers. Yes, I am going on and on like a broken record about the lack of respect. HOW can you have seen the "DUST 514" keynotes and panel and not feel disrespected? "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Cosgar 9250	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:09:00 - [25] - Quote Some games are tons better on PC when you think about stuff like modding and full range customization. Not for everybody mind you, but something to consider since cross platforming is going to be a thing. Do what you want, but just consider the option if you don't like having to buy a new console every 4-6 years. This is coming from a guy who's never going to give CCP another dollar, ever. This community is the nail in Dust 514's coffin, waiting to be hammered in.
Jarod Garamonde Jr Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 54	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:10:00 - [26] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything. But I don't play games on it. Why? I want come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it. So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this. Build a gaming rig. You'll never want to go back to consoles. Like Elder Scrolls? Mate..... mod community. Like online gaming? Oh, you are in for a treat. Like DLC? MAKE your own DLC.... be awesome... offer it to others for free. The list of advantages goes on and on.... Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13933	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:11:00 - [27] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Why are people more concerned with "DUST is a PC game" rather than "Legion is a separate game and DUST 514 is not going to be what it was promised"? One is a gripe about different machines and another is a gripe about how CCP has no respect for their customers. Yes, I am going on and on like a broken record about the lack of respect. HOW can you have seen the "DUST 514" keynotes and panel and not feel disrespected? It's not that DUST isn't going to be what it was promised, it's that DUST CAN'T be what was promised. CCP was wrong, they made a mistake, and this is them owning up to it. It certainly sucks and they're going to be dealing with the fallout for a while, particularly how it was announced, but for anyone who got into this game on the original vision: this is what we wanted. I really feel for you console only players, but there is still hope for a PS4 port once Legion is a real game on the PC, so there may be hope for you yet. LONG LIVE LEGION!
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 136	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:17:00 - [28] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Some games are tons better on PC when you think about stuff like modding and full range customization. Not for everybody mind you, but something to consider since cross platforming is going to be a thing. Do what you want, but just consider the option if you don't like having to buy a new console every 4-6 years. This is coming from a guy who's never going to give CCP another dollar, ever. I was trying to figure out what games could be better on consoles... Platformers? You can plug a controller into your PC. Couch co-op games? You can plug your PC into a TV. Those ******, terrible Xbox Live Arcade titles? Hrm, maybe, I mean obviously there's flash games on the PC, but even then most of them aren't that bad.
ROEG X BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 53	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:18:00 - [29] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything. But I don't play games on it. Why? I want come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it. So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this. I 2000% agree I have a gaming rig, ASUS Republic of Gamers Edition G75 X and I only play my total war collection, train sim and sim city 5. I do all my gaming on the PS3 and PS4 . Love the PlayStation 4 just waiting on the games. I like consoles more, Can't wait til the Steam controller comes out for the pc thats gonna be awesome.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1524	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:21:00 - [30] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Why are people more concerned with "DUST is a PC game" rather than "Legion is a separate game and DUST 514 is not going to be what it was promised"? One is a gripe about different machines and another is a gripe about how CCP has no respect for their customers. Yes, I am going on and on like a broken record about the lack of respect. HOW can you have seen the "DUST 514" keynotes and panel and not feel disrespected? It's not that DUST isn't going to be what it was promised, it's that DUST CAN'T be what was promised. CCP was wrong, they made a mistake, and this is them owning up to it. It certainly sucks and they're going to be dealing with the fallout for a while, particularly how it was announced, but for anyone who got into this game on the original vision: this is what we wanted. I really feel for you console only players, but there is still hope for a PS4 port once Legion is a real game on the PC, so there may be hope for you yet. I am not a console only player. I pulled my PS3 out of the closet to play DUST. I set it up at my PC in the most screwed up possible so I could just play it without going over to my TV. I am not a "PC gamer" or a "Console gamer"; I play whatever the hell I want if I like regardless of the system. I still feel like you are missing a bigger point that I am trying to make. I understand that saying that is insulting, and I apologize. Allow me to explain in a different manner, again only with the utmost respect. Company: "We are working on this product. It is going to have cookies, robots, unicorns, connection to League of Legends, free beer, etc." Me: "That sounds pretty good. I will support that product." some time later. Me: "This product doesn't have all that. Are you working on it?" Company: "Yes, we are working on it. It will have it all as we continue to develop it." Me: "Okay, sounds good." Company: "Welcome to Company Fest! We are pleased to announce a new product that will have cookies, robots, unicorns, connection to League of Legends, free beer, etc." Me: "Woah! What about the other product?" Company: "That product couldn't live up to our promises so we are starting a new project that will." Me: "What about my money and time?" Company: 24 hours later "We will see what we can do." It is a bait and switch. It has nothing to do "DUST was supposed to be a console game!" for me; it is "this game was supposed to be what it said it was going to be but now it isn't going to be what they said it was going to be and a different product will be what they said this one is going to be." If I say "buy the red car if you like to go off-roading", you buy the red car but see that it can't go off-roading, are you going to be upset when I say "buy the blue car if you like to go off-roading; red car is something we will work on"? "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson

Cosgar 9250	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:21:00 - [31] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Cosgar wrote: Some games are tons better on PC when you think about stuff like modding and full range customization. Not for everybody mind you, but something to consider since cross platforming is going to be a thing. Do what you want, but just consider the option if you don't like having to buy a new console every 4-6 years. This is coming from a guy who's never going to give CCP another dollar, ever. I was trying to figure out what games could be better on consoles... Platformers? You can plug a controller into your PC. Couch co-op games? You can plug your PC into a TV. Those ******, terrible Xbox Live Arcade titles? Hrm, maybe, I mean obviously there's flash games on the PC, but even then most of them aren't that bad. Even console games are designed using computers, so... This community is the nail in Dust 514's coffin, waiting to be hammered in.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 523	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:25:00 - [32] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't ***** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. no one thought that dust would be on the ps3 forever. If you read the forums, plenty of threads popped up about dust being on the ps4. Until legion came out, that would have been the most logical assumption for the next version of dust. Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13934	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:26:00 - [33] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Why are people more concerned with "DUST is a PC game" rather than "Legion is a separate game and DUST 514 is not going to be what it was promised"? One is a gripe about different machines and another is a gripe about how CCP has no respect for their customers. Yes, I am going on and on like a broken record about the lack of respect. HOW can you have seen the "DUST 514" keynotes and panel and not feel disrespected? It's not that DUST isn't going to be what it was promised, it's that DUST CAN'T be what was promised. CCP was wrong, they made a mistake, and this is them owning up to it. It certainly sucks and they're going to be dealing with the fallout for a while, particularly how it was announced, but for anyone who got into this game on the original vision: this is what we wanted. I really feel for you console only players, but there is still hope for a PS4 port once Legion is a real game on the PC, so there may be hope for you yet. I am not a console only player. I pulled my PS3 out of the closet to play DUST. I set it up at my PC in the most screwed up possible so I could just play it without going over to my TV. I am not a "PC gamer" or a "Console gamer"; I play whatever the hell I want if I like regardless of the system. I still feel like you are missing a bigger point that I am trying to make. I understand that saying that is insulting, and I apologize. Allow me to explain in a different manner, again only with the utmost respect. Company: "We are working on this product. It is going to have cookies, robots, unicorns, connection to League of Legends, free beer, etc." Me: "That sounds pretty good. I will support that product." some time later. Me: "This product doesn't have all that. Are you working on it?" Company: "Yes, we are working on it. It will have it all as we continue to develop it." Me: "Okay, sounds good." Company: "Welcome to Company Fest! We are pleased to announce a new product that will have cookies, robots, unicorns, connection to League of Legends, free beer, etc." Me: "Woah! What about the other product?" Company: "That product couldn't live up to our promises so we are starting a new project that will." Me: "What about my money and time?" Company: 24 hours later "We will see what we can do." It is a bait and switch. It has nothing to do "DUST was supposed to be a console game!" for me; it is "this game was supposed to be what it said it was going to be but now it isn't going to be what they said it was going to be and a different product will be what they said this one is going to be." If I say "buy the red car if you like to go off-roading", you buy the red car but see that it can't go off-roading, are you going to be upset when I say "buy the blue car if you like to go off-roading; red car is something we will work on"? I'm not arguing any of that, and I've said time and time again this past day that CCP couldn't have possibly handled this worse. All I'm saying is that if the DUST IP is to succeed, it needs to be moved to PC for development. We NEED Legion. I don't know what can be done for console only players who poured money into DUST hoping it would somehow break free of the constraints of the PS3 and become something more. All I can say is that I hope for a PS4 port soon, so console gamers can get in on the action and keep their characters as the game evolves. I'm not trying to defend CCPs actions leading up to this point, I'm merely agreeing that moving forward, this is what has to be done. LONG LIVE LEGION!
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1527	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:39:00 - [34] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I'm not arguing any of that, and I've said time and time again this past day that CCP couldn't have possibly handled this worse. All I'm saying is that if the DUST IP is to succeed, it needs to be moved to PC for development. We NEED Legion. I don't know what can be done for console only players who poured money into DUST hoping it would somehow break free of the constraints of the PS3 and become something more. All I can say is that I hope for a PS4 port soon, so console gamers can get in on the action and keep their characters as the game evolves. I'm not trying to defend CCPs actions leading up to this point, I'm merely agreeing that moving forward, this is what has to be done. "DUST IP to succeed" is the problem I have. If Legion was just DUST right now, warts and boils, I wouldn't care. Same game, great; really lame for console only guys but the game will move on. But it is a different game. That's my problem. I put money and time into Red Car to do X but really Red Car can't do X despite being told by the company it was meant to do X. IF! Legion is just DUST 514 on the PC, everything transfer, it is a necessary evil like you are saying. That I would agree with. DUST 514 needed to be on the PC from the start; CCP knows more about PC coding and consoles are just not quite there yet for that kind of ambition (but they will be someday). However, everything we have seen so far is just that Legion is a different game. This means that CCP lied to us all. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Csikszent Mihalyi Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 248	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:44:00 - [35] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Cosgar wrote: Some games are tons better on PC when you think about stuff like modding and full range customization. Not for everybody mind you, but something to consider since cross platforming is going to be a thing. Do what you want, but just consider the option if you don't like having to buy a new console every 4-6 years. This is coming from a guy who's never going to give CCP another dollar, ever. I was trying to figure out what games could be better on consoles... Platformers? You can plug a controller into your PC. Couch co-op games? You can plug your PC into a TV. Those ******, terrible Xbox Live Arcade titles? Hrm, maybe, I mean obviously there's flash games on the PC, but even then most of them aren't that bad. Nothing is better on console, but console provides a better out of box experience. No setup, no configuring, everything is meant to be played in one specific way with an operating system that is made for gaming on the TV. No hacking either (to 99.99%). It's also more cost-efficient, because games can be optimised for one specific set of hardware. If Legion gets ported to Steam OS (Linux), then you could get a very similar experience by getting (or building) a Steam Box of course. Personally I am not going to bother. I am looking forward to play Legion on a desk with proper mouse support. I've tried to like the controller, but it's just making me mad that I could take a sip of tea every time I wait for my character to make a simple turn.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3022	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:22:00 - [36] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't ***** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. no one thought that dust would be on the ps3 forever. If you read the forums, plenty of threads popped up about dust being on the ps4. Until legion came out, that would have been the most logical assumption for the next version of dust. Plenty of these PC mastur race tards have said they thought thats what some of us expected. As for you other clowns, perhaps you didn't see the part where I said I don't fcking care about how much awesomer you say the PC gaming will be. I don't want to deal with installing the damn thing in my living room, the fcking haxxors, the graphics card/processors arms race, getting crushed by people playing with KB/M with a massive built-in advantage. None of it. Go away. You can suggest all this bullsh!t all day if you want and I will continue to ignore it because what you think is great is not great for everyone else. There are any number of downsides you ignore because it's your own personal preference. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3912	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:23:00 - [37] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything. But I don't play games on it. Why? Because it's a Mac?
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13943	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:24:00 - [38] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: There are any number of downsides you ignore because it's your own personal preference. Literally the exact same thing can be said to you. LONG LIVE LEGION!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3022	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:28:00 - [39] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: There are any number of downsides you ignore because it's your own personal preference. Literally the exact same thing can be said to you. No sh!t sherlock. But I didn't make 15 threads telling you to ditch your PC and buy a console instead because herp derp reasons. @Himiko: I'll give you credit. That answer at least has some logic behind it, but that does not factor in significantly, not all of my computers are Macs. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13945	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:30:00 - [40] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: There are any number of downsides you ignore because it's your own personal preference. Literally the exact same thing can be said to you. No sh!t sherlock. But I didn't make 15 threads telling you to ditch your PC and buy a console instead because herp derp reasons. @Himiko: I'll give you credit. That answer at least has some logic behind it, but that does not factor in significantly, not all of my computers are Macs. Neither did I. Either way you'd have to ditch your system for a new system, it's just not the system you want. LONG LIVE LEGION!

Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 308	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:31:00 - [41] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't ***** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. And what could possibly make you think that Legion will stay on the PC for forever? As for your living situation, that's on you, I can't help you there lol. Mancave? What makes you think Legion will not be as broken as Dust? Or come out in less than 2 years? There's always more questions than answers with CCP. If they put Legion on the PS4 (which is where I fully expected Dust to be by 2015) and migrate my character, I'll give it a shot. Doesn't make CCP any less douchy tho. Because the PS3 itself is incredibly broken architecture and networking wise that it's the equivalent of building a house on a sand foundation.
Spark Kincade Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 21	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:32:00 - [42] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: There are any number of downsides you ignore because it's your own personal preference. Literally the exact same thing can be said to you. No sh!t sherlock. But I didn't make 15 threads telling you to ditch your PC and buy a console instead because herp derp reasons. I'm not sure you did, but when Dust 514 was announced for PS3 and not PC plenty of console gamers did at the time, now the shoe is on the other foot.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3025	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:38:00 - [43] - Quote Spark Kincade wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: There are any number of downsides you ignore because it's your own personal preference. Literally the exact same thing can be said to you. No sh!t sherlock. But I didn't make 15 threads telling you to ditch your PC and buy a console instead because herp derp reasons. I'm not sure you did, but when Dust 514 was announced for PS3 and not PC plenty of console gamers did at the time, now the shoe is on the other foot. I am sure I did not. Regardless, I'm not sure you can really call the situations equivalent, a game being announced as being developed for a console from day 1 is different than promising a persistent experience with a 10 year plan for a game that's already on a console, and then suddenly saying, yeah, thanks for buying aurum, we're taking off. See ya wouldn't want to be ya I'm annoyed that games like StarCraft 2 are for PC and Halo for Xbox, but I'm not going to buy an Xbox to play Halo and that's a choice I made with valid information and can live with it. It's not the same. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
Blind Nojoy G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 168	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:46:00 - [44] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: CCP restored my hope with Legion. I'm still skeptical, I still have no plans of throwing my money at them any time soon, but for me, I couldn't ask for better news (again, not HOW that news was given) It sucks for console only players, no doubt, and they have every right to be upset. However, I think CCP made the right call here, if from no other perspective than a business one. DUST would never compete with next gen games. Legion will give them a run for their money. You must be easy pickings if they "restored hope" to you with that announcement. I've seen you be critical of dust before but between your name and the wings of legion thing I'd assume more of a fanboy than anything. They didn't need great graphics. What they had was a good idea. They just couldn't follow it. They delivered the news in the worst way possible. Nothing good will come from this. Fail developer is fail.
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13952	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:49:00 - [45] - Quote Blind Nojoy wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: CCP restored my hope with Legion. I'm still skeptical, I still have no plans of throwing my money at them any time soon, but for me, I couldn't ask for better news (again, not HOW that news was given) It sucks for console only players, no doubt, and they have every right to be upset. However, I think CCP made the right call here, if from no other perspective than a business one. DUST would never compete with next gen games. Legion will give them a run for their money. You must be easy pickings if they "restored hope" to you with that announcement. I've seen you be critical of dust before but between your name and the wings of legion thing I'd assume more of a fanboy than anything. They didn't need great graphics. What they had was a good idea. They just couldn't follow it. They delivered the news in the worst way possible. Nothing good will come from this. Fail developer is fail. Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you. I've said numerous times I don't agree with how they handled things, merely that Legion is the inevitable evolution. PS3 is a dieing system and keeping the DUST IP attached to it is the fast track to failure. LONG LIVE LEGION!
Cardio Therapy Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 10	Posted - 2014.05.04 05:58:00 - [46] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything. But I don't play games on it. Why? I want to come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it. So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this. You Know what. I do the same. I was very addicted PC games player in the past. Now I have an ultimate gaimong PC that consumes electricity like hell. And I don't play anymore on PC at all. I don't even try PC games anymore. I do play only on consoles. I am going to buy PS4 when planetside comes out. I am not going back to PC games for whatever reason.
Blind Nojoy G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 168	Posted - 2014.05.04 06:02:00 - [47] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Blind Nojoy wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: CCP restored my hope with Legion. I'm still skeptical, I still have no plans of throwing my money at them any time soon, but for me, I couldn't ask for better news (again, not HOW that news was given) It sucks for console only players, no doubt, and they have every right to be upset. However, I think CCP made the right call here, if from no other perspective than a business one. DUST would never compete with next gen games. Legion will give them a run for their money. You must be easy pickings if they "restored hope" to you with that announcement. I've seen you be critical of dust before but between your name and the wings of legion thing I'd assume more of a fanboy than anything. They didn't need great graphics. What they had was a good idea. They just couldn't follow it. They delivered the news in the worst way possible. Nothing good will come from this. Fail developer is fail. Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you. I've said numerous times I don't agree with how they handled things, merely that Legion is the inevitable evolution. PS3 is a dieing system and keeping the DUST IP attached to it is the fast track to failure. Thanks captain obvious, never would have thunk it was a dieing system when ps4 has been out since last year. Clearly the way forward was not ps3. It should have simply been a PC or ps4 port. They went completely 180 degrees out with a new game and new system. What may I ask has ccp done in the past 2 years to give you a warm fuzzy? Other than having a cool concept, they have completely f*cked away every aspect of this game.
mollerz 3430	Posted - 2014.05.04 06:02:00 - [48] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I've said numerous times I don't agree with how they handled things, merely that Legion is the inevitable evolution. PS3 is a dieing system and keeping the DUST IP attached to it is the fast track to failure. Do you know that the PS4 is x86? To make a PC and a PS4 version should be easy for any coder worth their salt. The PS3 was designed with their proprietary cell chip which made it so unique, thus difficult to code for. The only logical evolution from a PS3 is the PS4.. not PC. And frankly, both can be accomplished. one shard, right? You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2699	Posted - 2014.05.04 06:03:00 - [49] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Plenty of these PC mastur race tards have said they thought thats what some of us expected. As for you other clowns, perhaps you didn't see the part where I said I don't fcking care about how much awesomer you say the PC gaming will be. I don't want to deal with installing the damn thing in my living room, the fcking haxxors, the graphics card/processors arms race, getting crushed by people playing with KB/M with a massive built-in advantage. None of it. Go away. You can suggest all this bullsh!t all day if you want and I will continue to ignore it because what you think is great is not great for everyone else. There are any number of downsides you ignore because it's your own personal preference. Sorry you feel that way, but hey... there is always Call of Duty. They will never abandon their console user base, should provide you with the experience and stability you are looking for. They also don't support kb/m at all, should be a fairly simple gamepad only transition for you. I suggest you check it, they are releasing information on a new game soon, its called Advanced Warfare or something like that I think. '#PCMasterRace 5/2/2014 - Best day in Dust's history CCP Rouge - The Hero of Dust
Ceadda Sai Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 21	Posted - 2014.05.04 06:05:00 - [50] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: HDMI and VGA are pretty sweet I'm playing eve on a laptop that cost less than your ps3 and it has a smashed screen it's pretty awesome Rabblerabblerabblerabble Now if eve was f2p. Forge Gunners: Now this is a gun for going out and and making people miserable with.

DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13954	Posted - 2014.05.04 06:25:00 - [51] - Quote Ceadda Sai wrote: Vin Vicious wrote: HDMI and VGA are pretty sweet I'm playing eve on a laptop that cost less than your ps3 and it has a smashed screen it's pretty awesome Rabblerabblerabblerabble Now if eve was f2p. To be fair, it technically is. It just takes a while to get to that point. LONG LIVE LEGION!
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 26	Posted - 2014.05.04 06:38:00 - [52] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything. But I don't play games on it. Why? I want to come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it. So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this. Even if you did run a cable from your computer to your TV and buy a wireless controller for your computer. Keyboard and mouse players would still have the advantage over you as they can snipe better and move faster. So basically CCP wants you to play hunched over a computer screen in a swivel char or not at all.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1427	Posted - 2014.05.04 08:25:00 - [53] - Quote To all PC move supporters. 2 things. 1. If I had the money for a top of the line PC, why the hell would I have been playing this F2P piece of trash for the last year, struggling to help improve it when there are plenty of other games that are way better sitting at gamestop? 2. Why would I pay for and build a new PC and **** up my living room to play a F2P game that was already promised to me on a console I already own? IDGAF how CCP moved it to PC, the point of it was that Dust was to be a F2P console game that integrated with New Eden that was promised to expand and refine itself for years to come with the help of it's players. Now, in the middle of it's production, it's a discontinued piece of scrap that helped CCP build a foundation for the game we all wanted..... but on PC instead. We are the 514, and we will not forget RIP Dust
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1754	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:17:00 - [54] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Why are people more concerned with "DUST is a PC game" rather than "Legion is a separate game and DUST 514 is not going to be what it was promised"? One is a gripe about different machines and another is a gripe about how CCP has no respect for their customers. Yes, I am going on and on like a broken record about the lack of respect. HOW can you have seen the "DUST 514" keynotes and panel and not feel disrespected? It's not that DUST isn't going to be what it was promised, it's that DUST CAN'T be what was promised. CCP was wrong, they made a mistake, and this is them owning up to it. It certainly sucks and they're going to be dealing with the fallout for a while, particularly how it was announced, but for anyone who got into this game on the original vision: this is what we wanted. I really feel for you console only players, but there is still hope for a PS4 port once Legion is a real game on the PC, so there may be hope for you yet. This. I wouldn't be bitter if CCP told me a year earlier that they'd be working on Legion on the PC which will port to the PS4. They could've called Dust a straight experiment. I wouldn't be pissed... I at least hope that we get some type or community wrap up story event or something. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 427	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:43:00 - [55] - Quote mollerz wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I've said numerous times I don't agree with how they handled things, merely that Legion is the inevitable evolution. PS3 is a dieing system and keeping the DUST IP attached to it is the fast track to failure. Do you know that the PS4 is x86? To make a PC and a PS4 version should be easy for any coder worth their salt. The PS3 was designed with their proprietary cell chip which made it so unique, thus difficult to code for. The only logical evolution from a PS3 is the PS4.. not PC. And frankly, both can be accomplished. one shard, right? Sure and if our community can stick together and STOP ALL THIS **ING PC VS CONSOLE BULL** and act like actual GAMERS it has good chance of happening . Moving to the PC gives them access to an actual Test Server where they can test their code on a variety of PC configurations INCLUDING the PC like PS4 . Going straight to the PS4 first would have locked them from the Test Server we ALL have been begging them to get for Dust . No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Aleph Rynedee Science For Death Final Resolution. 94	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:24:00 - [56] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Except the PS4 resembles a PC far more than a PS3. It would be much easier to port a fleshed out next gen game from PC to PS4 then an old, buggy, outdated PS3 game to the PS4 By that reasoning it would be just as easy to go PS4 to PC. With Sony not supporting backward compatibility you had to expect a brand new game, one that streamlines what works and tweaks what didn't. CCP took the next logical step, they just opted to bring the next iteration to PCs. Makes a certain sense: develop the game for supercomputers, find a stable release, optimize the crap out of it, release near the end of the console cycle in 2021. That seems like a good way to show your support to the community you commended at the beginning of the Dust keynote (then again, considering the Dust keynote wasn't about Dust perhaps that was a 'bizarro' commendation that meant eff you, which isn't that implausible given the vitriolic state of the forums). I was under the impression that choices matter in New Eden, this week I learned that ultimately only CCP's choices matter, mine are inconsequential.
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13986	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:26:00 - [57] - Quote Aleph Rynedee wrote: I was under the impression that choices matter in New Eden, this week I learned that ultimately only CCP's choices matter, mine are inconsequential. That's kind of been the running theme all throughout DUST.....
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. EoN. 33	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:28:00 - [58] - Quote I am mainly a pc gamer and bought a ps3 slim 2009 when the game got annouced so this is the other way around I did make the move and it was fun. I could just pull the hdmi cable on play basicly on the pc with a joystick then.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 451	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:29:00 - [59] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. You clearly don't get what he's saying. I how you choke on CCP's d*ck. Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
Son Down SamsClub 124	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:33:00 - [60] - Quote What is making all the tweeny boppers rage right now is the realization of that little voice in the pit of their stomach's that says, "Consoles arrreee fooooor chiiiiiiildren". What CCP did with Dust 514 is LITERALLY drop it for the PC. Console kiddie nightmare turned realization. All the evidence you need is spewed forth on the forums right now. It's good enough to put choclate syrup on top of it and lap it up. So....delicious.

Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 142	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:35:00 - [61] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. The cave allegory applied to console gamers? I like it. I can't agree that it's impossible to educate a console gamer though, all of my friends switched to PC when the PS4/Xbone came out. Why buy a console that is already obsolete when you can build a PC for the same price that you'll be able to upgrade later to get an even better experience? Think about it, VR is coming, that requires at LEAST 1440p and 75fps to be acceptable to play on, and the consoles are having trouble putting out 1080p at a solid 60fps. Who would fall for that money pit?
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 451	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:40:00 - [62] - Quote Son Down wrote: What is making all the tweeny boppers rage right now is the realization of that little voice in the pit of their stomach's that says, "Consoles arrreee fooooor chiiiiiiildren". What CCP did with Dust 514 is LITERALLY drop it for the PC. Console kiddie nightmare turned realization. All the evidence you need is spewed forth on the forums right now. It's good enough to put choclate syrup on top of it and lap it up. So....delicious. Typical EVE d*ck. Just announced, EVE is being moved to PS4, and you will have to use a controller to be viable cause they will poorly make the KB/M. Also, everything you have accomplished in your time there will be deleted or 'transfered' (not likely). Point is, put yourself in our shoes for once, you might even understand. Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1641	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:41:00 - [63] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. Sounds like a nerds RTS game to me buddy. found in pc. I play on my rig too, but cool ****. horror and fps. Not that fluff MMO and indie garbage. Remember kids if you want to sell PC as COOL and HIP, don't use EVE as the bar to achieve. nor any korean mmo. just saying.
Son Down SamsClub 124	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:52:00 - [64] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Son Down wrote: What is making all the tweeny boppers rage right now is the realization of that little voice in the pit of their stomach's that says, "Consoles arrreee fooooor chiiiiiiildren". What CCP did with Dust 514 is LITERALLY drop it for the PC. Console kiddie nightmare turned realization. All the evidence you need is spewed forth on the forums right now. It's good enough to put choclate syrup on top of it and lap it up. So....delicious. Typical EVE dck. Just announced, EVE is being moved to PS4, and you will have to use a controller to be viable cause they will poorly make the KB/M. Also, everything you have accomplished in your time there will be deleted or 'transfered' (not likely). Point is, put yourself in our shoes for once, you might even understand. Well, I'll continue to be a dck for the time being with this: Dust 514 is being abandoned on PS3.....fact. They may or may not be releasing it on PC.....fact. No amount of forum temper tantrum is going to change this. Ever. The console version of Dust 514 was/is garbage, that is a strongly supported opinion. From a DEV to boot: http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/3/5677566/Dust-514-project-legion-reaction Consoles are cheap for a reason.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1366	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:56:00 - [65] - Quote Son Down wrote: Consoles are cheap for a reason. Because we either can't afford a high end gaming computer that needs continuous upgrades or because we simply don't need to put excess cash into a gaming machine to make ourselves feel superior. Both seem legit reasons. Nos Nothi for Life
Son Down SamsClub 124	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:00:00 - [66] - Quote The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console".
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 346	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:03:00 - [67] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't ***** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. well dude then bad luck bro, sure im mad about dust no more in console but hey, if someone wants to play they will find a way, oh and btw, no one on the forums cares about your problems, just take advice like the one dust fiend gave you, and say thank you, cause going on and on and on about dust not being in console is simply as you put it "idiotic".
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1546	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:07:00 - [68] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't *** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it. Come on John you know the virgins of the PC master race don't know about real life, a wife, kids. They are scrunched over that PC for work, recreation, even sex with Rosey palms and her five sisters. Now not all PC gamers are like that, but most of you little fucktards that would ever call yourselves PC master race or refer to console peasants. You little pricks like to think you are superior for your preference but you are just little douchebags like some idiot that would argue to the death over XBOX or PS. Its stupid its preference. If CCP would have went with PC from the get go, great, I could have made an informed decision whether to get a gaming PC to play their game or (more than likely) not. Instead they started console, said they would stay on the console, promised us grand visions and then said they were switching to PC. We can go PC if we want what they advertised and MAYBE we can keep our progress here. Otherwise we can be happy with the piece of they have put out currently. That's bait and switch, that's shady business practices, and if you can't tell that it is **** up....well it explains why CCP still has customers. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Son Down SamsClub 126	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:09:00 - [69] - Quote Soooo, is that a yes or a no regarding the invite to my Legion corp?
Quill Killian Better Hide R Die 290	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:11:00 - [70] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. rolls eyes It's "planes," not "plains." Learn to spell, fool, if you're going to post such drivel. After all, spelling mistakes like that really don't look good for a so-called member of the "master race." Oh, and I game on console and PC.

Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1642	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:11:00 - [71] - Quote Son Down wrote: Soooo, is that a yes or a no regarding the invite to my Legion corp? stop poaching. COSCO IS BETTER. I said it.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1546	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:12:00 - [72] - Quote Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". Hmmm me = console gamer with disposable income who has spent over $200 on Dust my son = 15 year old PC gamer whose disposable income is what I give him Stereotype some more why don't you. Oh well, you and everyone else who believes that CCP will deliver just because its now on PC can't say you weren't warned or didn't know ahead of time when you get ****** over. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:13:00 - [73] - Quote Quill Killian wrote: Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. rolls eyes It's "planes," not "plains." Learn to spell, fool, if you're going to post such drivel. After all, spelling mistakes like that really don't look good for a so-called member of the "master race." Oh, and I game on console and PC. I used to say I game on console and PC. But these past few days have made me even more embarrassed to say I play console games.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1367	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:15:00 - [74] - Quote Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". You mean like how Rockstar only released GTA V on consoles and broke video game sales records on release even though they didn't, and last I check have yet to, release it on PC? Not to mention GTA Online which is a f2p online game that was freely included with the game? They must REALLY be going broke then Nos Nothi for Life
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1643	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:18:00 - [75] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Quill Killian wrote: Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. rolls eyes It's "planes," not "plains." Learn to spell, fool, if you're going to post such drivel. After all, spelling mistakes like that really don't look good for a so-called member of the "master race." Oh, and I game on console and PC. I used to say I game on console and PC. But these past few days have made me even more embarrassed to say I play console games. Not a infamous 2 fan eh? nor Titan fall? .....ok I can undertsand titanfall. Guess You won't be there for destiny huh? yup, consoles and there embarrasing exclusives.. tsk tsk. I see what you did there As long as the ladies didn't. I get reprimanded if I come off to bullish. ME! you believe it?
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:20:00 - [76] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Vance Alken wrote: Quill Killian wrote: Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. rolls eyes It's "planes," not "plains." Learn to spell, fool, if you're going to post such drivel. After all, spelling mistakes like that really don't look good for a so-called member of the "master race." Oh, and I game on console and PC. I used to say I game on console and PC. But these past few days have made me even more embarrassed to say I play console games. Not a infamous 2 fan eh? nor Titan fall? .....ok I can undertsand titanfall. Guess You won't be there for destiny huh? yup, consoles and there embarrasing exclusives.. tsk tsk. I see what you did there As long as the ladies didn't. I get reprimanded if I come off to bullish. ME! you believe it? More like consoles and their embarrassing community.
Son Down SamsClub 126	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:20:00 - [77] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". Hmmm me = console gamer with disposable income who has spent over $200 on Dust my son = 15 year old PC gamer whose disposable income is what I give him Stereotype some more why don't you. Oh well, you and everyone else who believes that CCP will deliver just because its now on PC can't say you weren't warned or didn't know ahead of time when you get ****** over. Pheeew, thanks for breaking my close minded stereotype. In other news, CCP has announced that Dust 514 will be staying on PS3 and all development will continue, business as usual. After learning of Zahle Undt's earth shattering revelation that console players are actually not dependent on their parent's charity, and can indeed finance their own online game. More at ten.
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:22:00 - [78] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". Hmmm me = console gamer with disposable income who has spent over $200 on Dust my son = 15 year old PC gamer whose disposable income is what I give him Stereotype some more why don't you. Oh well, you and everyone else who believes that CCP will deliver just because its now on PC can't say you weren't warned or didn't know ahead of time when you get ****** over. Zahle you should talk to your kid, he seems to be a lot smarter with his allowance than you are with yours.
Galthur Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 497	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:23:00 - [79] - Quote Do you not want PVE? Never Forget
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1643	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:25:00 - [80] - Quote Galthur wrote: Do you not want PVE? I'm in PVE mode right now. PERSON VS EVE. HA! DUDE! Oh come on.. can't tell me you ladies didn't giggle at that. I'll behave.

Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 58	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:28:00 - [81] - Quote Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". LOL, PC people are cheap bastards. Despite there being an INSANELY higher number of PCs out there Go here See the side bar for retail purchases. 2013 PC gaming software sales: 27,597,660 2013 gaming console/handheld software sales: 434,925,553 I would absolutely love to give you sales data for digital purchases, but the company that makes up 75% of all PC digital sales (steam) does not release sales figures. I can tell you that valve made under 1 billion dollars last year, which would put it at about 1/5th of activision. Face it, PC is a secondary thought to most game publishers because of rampant, easy piracy and easy cheats and lack-luster sales. There is ONE analyst stating that PC software revenue was $22 billion last year, and since steam does release it's numbers, I would love how he came to that figure. Console gaming? 38 billion dollars, and that is from multiple sources. Pc sales are declining 10% a year for the last few years. PC gaming is a socially unacceptable (i.e. nerdy) thing and PC gamers are mostly social pariahs. Sorry guys, it is the truth. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 837	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:28:00 - [82] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. really? Your roleplaying of the PC Elitist was a bit overdone. Oh and without crops and cattle conversing about anything becomes a problem after you have starved to death. Sorry my Uncle is a farmer. You do not have to be crazy to play here but we are willing to train you.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 454	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:31:00 - [83] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Quill Killian wrote: Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. rolls eyes It's "planes," not "plains." Learn to spell, fool, if you're going to post such drivel. After all, spelling mistakes like that really don't look good for a so-called member of the "master race." Oh, and I game on console and PC. I used to say I game on console and PC. But these past few days have made me even more embarrassed to say I play console games. Seriously? You're embarrassed to say you play console games? After those EVE punks have come on here and kicked us while we're down, I'm embarrassed to say I even played the EVE trial. Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
WARxion ForDUST Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 31	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:33:00 - [84] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Get a long HDMI cable. Put your PC in the living room. Put that cable in your second HDMI slot on your PC, run it to the TV Get a wireless PC controller, or one with an extended cable. Enjoy Legion from the comfort of your couch. (I feel for you, it sucks, but it was inevitable. PC / maybe next gen consoles are the only way the vision of DUST will ever be realized. That's the simple truth) Be CCP Rouge. Do nothing for a year. Get a ticket to Iceland. Enter Harpa and get on the EVE Legion keynote stage. Cancel EVE Legion and announce EVE Armageddon for Xbox One. ??? Profit.
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 355	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:37:00 - [85] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything. But I don't play games on it. Why? I want to come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it. So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this. Dust can only be great on PC. It can only integrate with EVE and Valkyrie properly on PC. They should have developed it on PC from the start, but we've had a lot of fun, devs have learned a lot, and a lot of the game has already been built and tested. Now Dust is moving to PC so that it can truly be Dust, the groundbreaking EVE world MMOFPS, instead of a lobby shooter with some core aspects of gameplay in place and the rest not do-able due to PS3 hardware, Sony policies, and gimpy Playstation network. If you don't want to play it on PC, best of luck and there will be awesome games on console of course, maybe including Dust 2, but hopefully you will appreciate at some point that the move to PC was wise when you see how it enabled the game to evolve.
Quill Killian Better Hide R Die 290	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:38:00 - [86] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: Beeeees wrote: Nobody tells you anything. You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible. You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle. really? Your roleplaying of the PC Elitist was a bit overdone. Oh and without crops and cattle conversing about anything becomes a problem after you have starved to death. Sorry my Uncle is a farmer. 'Tis funny, in a way. If the global power grid were to be wiped out by, say, a series of massive flares from the Sun, farming and animal husbandry would continue, albeit in a reduced, pre-electrical fashion. Most everything else in society would grind to a halt and quickly de-evolve into savagery, especially in the cities. Your average gamer GÇö PC and console GÇö would likely be among the first to lose his/her life in that sort of social upheaval. So, Beeeees is once again shown to be a short-sighted member of the "master race." As a "hybrid" myself GÇö both console and PC gamer GÇö I'm embarrassed that s/he's "in the club," so to speak. Oh, and just for giggles, it's my belief that console and PC gamers share a common, evolutionary ancestor: THE PINBALL MACHINE PLAYER!
Rahl Draak Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 85	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:38:00 - [87] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". LOL, PC people are cheap bastards. Despite there being an INSANELY higher number of PCs out there Go here See the side bar for retail purchases. 2013 PC gaming software sales: 27,597,660 2013 gaming console/handheld software sales: 434,925,553 I would absolutely love to give you sales data for digital purchases, but the company that makes up 75% of all PC digital sales (steam) does not release sales figures. I can tell you that valve made under 1 billion dollars last year, which would put it at about 1/5th of activision. Face it, PC is a secondary thought to most game publishers because of rampant, easy piracy and easy cheats and lack-luster sales. There is ONE analyst stating that PC software revenue was $22 billion last year, and since steam does release it's numbers, I would love how he came to that figure. Console gaming? 38 billion dollars, and that is from multiple sources. Pc sales are declining 10% a year for the last few years. PC gaming is a socially unacceptable (i.e. nerdy) thing and PC gamers are mostly social pariahs. Sorry guys, it is the truth. Well, obviously. It's a good thing we'll still be able to play Dust on ps3.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 454	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:39:00 - [88] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything. But I don't play games on it. Why? I want to come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it. So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this. Dust can only be great on PC. It can only integrate with EVE and Valkyrie properly on PC. They should have developed it on PC from the start, but we've had a lot of fun, devs have learned a lot, and a lot of the game has already been built and tested. Now Dust is moving to PC so that it can truly be Dust, the groundbreaking EVE world MMOFPS, instead of a lobby shooter with some core aspects of gameplay in place and the rest not do-able due to PS3 hardware, Sony policies, and gimpy Playstation network. If you don't want to play it on PC, best of luck and there will be awesome games on console of course, maybe including Dust 2, but hopefully you will appreciate at some point that the move to PC was wise when you see how it enabled the game to evolve. Didn't even need to read the whole thing. One answer, one word. PS4 Fanfest in a nutshell for me.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 837	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:40:00 - [89] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I'll be the last person to defend how CCP went about all of this, all I'm saying is that for me, personally, this was basically the best case scenario. I really hope they manage to port it to PS4 as well, I really do, but for right now, PC is what will allow them the flexibility and breathing room to actually bring us the original vision. I was sold on that vision, and I was just about to set DUST down for good because I knew it would never be able to live up to that vision. CCP restored my hope with Legion. I'm still skeptical, I still have no plans of throwing my money at them any time soon, but for me, I couldn't ask for better news (again, not HOW that news was given) It sucks for console only players, no doubt, and they have every right to be upset. However, I think CCP made the right call here, if from no other perspective than a business one. DUST would never compete with next gen games. Legion will give them a run for their money. In all honesty I do not think anybody is actually angry with players who are looking forward to Legion on PC. If you are a PC player then this is good news but what we are dealing with here are expectations and trust. You can not argue feelings, people will feel the way they do, and no argument will change that. Finally just as some people prefer playing on a PC so there are those who prefer Consoles, me being one of them. I have no desire to add another gaming platform to the ones I have. If legion makes it to the PS4 and my toon, skills, assets etc have been saved then I will probably look into it. I will probably play Dust for a while longer it just depends on what happens next and if something I find more interesting comes along. You do not have to be crazy to play here but we are willing to train you.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1551	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:53:00 - [90] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". Hmmm me = console gamer with disposable income who has spent over $200 on Dust my son = 15 year old PC gamer whose disposable income is what I give him Stereotype some more why don't you. Oh well, you and everyone else who believes that CCP will deliver just because its now on PC can't say you weren't warned or didn't know ahead of time when you get **** over. Zahle you should talk to your kid, he seems to be a lot smarter with his allowance than you are with yours. I respect his right to play Minecraft and all the ** little Steam games he wants in his base room between bouts of maturbation to internet . I even respect your right to do the same or applaud CCP for ***** a bunch of people over or buying their BS about it being the PS3 holding them back. Seems to me its the "PC master race" that is on the forums here shitting on people. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.

zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 355	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:53:00 - [91] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". LOL, PC people are cheap bastards. Despite there being an INSANELY higher number of PCs out there Go here See the side bar for retail purchases. 2013 PC gaming software sales: 27,597,660 2013 gaming console/handheld software sales: 434,925,553 I would absolutely love to give you sales data for digital purchases, but the company that makes up 75% of all PC digital sales (steam) does not release sales figures. I can tell you that valve made under 1 billion dollars last year, which would put it at about 1/5th of activision. Face it, PC is a secondary thought to most game publishers because of rampant, easy piracy and easy cheats and lack-luster sales. There is ONE analyst stating that PC software revenue was $22 billion last year, and since steam does release it's numbers, I would love how he came to that figure. Console gaming? 38 billion dollars, and that is from multiple sources. Pc sales are declining 10% a year for the last few years. PC gaming is a socially unacceptable (i.e. nerdy) thing and PC gamers are mostly social pariahs. Sorry guys, it is the truth. Such global stats don't apply as much to building a player base for Dust 2 as they would for most games. You have to have a lot of gamer nerd in you to want to succeed in Dust and go through the progressions, learn the game, figure out the fitting and stats and everything. You have to be even more of a gamer nerd to want to be immersed in emergent gameplay and be active in a corp and all that. Point is this: Dust needs to be itself to thrive and that means modeling itself after EVE and being basically the shooter version of EVE. This type of game won't attract as many masses as Destiny or whatever, but it will attract some and that community will grow and many of them will stick with the game over the long haul. A lot of PC gamers want that type of game, so that's the market we want for Dust 2. PC is already primed for Dust and there a lot of EVE players and other gamers that will play if it's on PC (and actually an MMOFPS). Console on the other hand has some of the gamer nerd crowd that wants that emergent content but a lot of the base just wants to sit down and relax with a lobby shooter, like the OP. Nothing wrong with that, and there will be ample opportunities for that in Dust 2, but that's not what makes CCP games special. TLDR: Only a PC platform will enable CCP to realize their and our vision of what Dust can be, and the nature of PC gaming and character of PC gamers gives Dust 2 potentially a broader player base who will buy in to the emergent gameplay.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1554	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:06:00 - [92] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Mary Lilac wrote: Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". LOL, PC people are cheap bastards. Despite there being an INSANELY higher number of PCs out there Go here See the side bar for retail purchases. 2013 PC gaming software sales: 27,597,660 2013 gaming console/handheld software sales: 434,925,553 I would absolutely love to give you sales data for digital purchases, but the company that makes up 75% of all PC digital sales (steam) does not release sales figures. I can tell you that valve made under 1 billion dollars last year, which would put it at about 1/5th of activision. Face it, PC is a secondary thought to most game publishers because of rampant, easy piracy and easy cheats and lack-luster sales. There is ONE analyst stating that PC software revenue was $22 billion last year, and since steam does release it's numbers, I would love how he came to that figure. Console gaming? 38 billion dollars, and that is from multiple sources. Pc sales are declining 10% a year for the last few years. PC gaming is a socially unacceptable (i.e. nerdy) thing and PC gamers are mostly social pariahs. Sorry guys, it is the truth. Such global stats don't apply as much to building a player base for Dust 2 as they would for most games. You have to have a lot of gamer nerd in you to want to succeed in Dust and go through the progressions, learn the game, figure out the fitting and stats and everything. You have to be even more of a gamer nerd to want to be immersed in emergent gameplay and be active in a corp and all that. Point is this: Dust needs to be itself to thrive and that means modeling itself after EVE and being basically the shooter version of EVE. This type of game won't attract as many masses as Destiny or whatever, but it will attract some and that community will grow and many of them will stick with the game over the long haul. A lot of PC gamers want that type of game, so that's the market we want for Dust 2. PC is already primed for Dust and there a lot of EVE players and other gamers that will play if it's on PC (and actually an MMOFPS). Console on the other hand has some of the gamer nerd crowd that wants that emergent content but a lot of the base just wants to sit down and relax with a lobby shooter, like the OP. Nothing wrong with that, and there will be ample opportunities for that in Dust 2, but that's not what makes CCP games special. TLDR: Only a PC platform will enable CCP to realize their and our vision of what Dust can be, and the nature of PC gaming and character of PC gamers gives Dust 2 potentially a broader player base who will buy in to the emergent gameplay. Maybe, maybe not, one part of your post I have serious doubts about is most of the Eve player base playing or putting much investment into a FPS where apparently even more will depend on player skill than SP than Dust is currently (from what I gathered from the Progression presentation) I am part of the console gamer nerd middle of the venn diagram if you will. Thus I am pissed I got promised I was going to get something I wanted, but then told nah **** off we used you as a Beta tester for our PC game. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 431	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:13:00 - [93] - Quote Quill Killian wrote: 'Tis funny, in a way. If the global power grid were to be wiped out by, say, a series of massive flares from the Sun, farming and animal husbandry would continue, albeit in a reduced, pre-electrical fashion. Most everything else in society would grind to a halt and quickly de-evolve into savagery, especially in the cities. Your average gamer GÇö PC and console GÇö would likely be among the first to lose his/her life in that sort of social upheaval. So, Beeeees is once again shown to be a short-sighted member of the "master race." As a "hybrid" myself GÇö both console and PC gamer GÇö I'm embarrassed that s/he's "in the club," so to speak. Oh, and just for giggles, it's my belief that console and PC gamers share a common, evolutionary ancestor: THE PINBALL MACHINE PLAYER! /clap clap clap . Seriously I think us Hybrids are the only semi-sane ( no duster is fully sane ) left on the board . I mean seriously what are these guys endgame ? No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
major faux-pas Irish Assassins 123	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:29:00 - [94] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: "I want come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherfcking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it." Which you could do with a PC. Unless something big changed recently, getting a controller that is both comfortable and works flawlessly with pc games is like pulling off a miracle. Secondly, chilling out is something that doesnt involve watching windows or whatever boot up. Studies have shown that tension enters the shoulders with just visual triggers of WORK. just because it is feasible doesnt make it practical, workable, or comfortable. Also, those with Work related upper limb disorders ( or RSI ) and other disabilities are being discriminated against by this. i for one dont want to see a mouse in the living room, not sure my wife would be too happy. And to the sychophants: while you can be a *** and jump on a complaint as a means to discredit the opinion. YOU KNOW that every one of you who bothers to read any dust thread would be guilty of doing the same if CCP took your game away.
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 355	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:33:00 - [95] - Quote major faux-pas wrote: Alucard Fang wrote: "I want come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherfcking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it." Which you could do with a PC. Unless something big changed recently, getting a controller that is both comfortable and works flawlessly with pc games is like pulling off a miracle. Secondly, chilling out is something that doesnt involve watching windows or whatever boot up. Studies have shown that tension enters the shoulders with just visual triggers of WORK. just because it is feasible doesnt make it practical, workable, or comfortable. Also, those with Work related upper limb disorders ( or RSI ) and other disabilities are being discriminated against by this. i for one dont want to see a mouse in the living room, not sure my wife would be too happy. And to the sychophants: while you can be a *** and jump on a complaint as a means to discredit the opinion. YOU KNOW that every one of you who bothers to read any dust thread would be guilty of doing the same if CCP took your game away. Hell no. I would buy a PS4.
KING SALASI MAJOR DISTRIBUTION 240	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:39:00 - [96] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I'll be the last person to defend how CCP went about all of this, all I'm saying is that for me, personally, this was basically the best case scenario. I really hope they manage to port it to PS4 as well, I really do, but for right now, PC is what will allow them the flexibility and breathing room to actually bring us the original vision. I was sold on that vision, and I was just about to set DUST down for good because I knew it would never be able to live up to that vision. CCP restored my hope with Legion. I'm still skeptical, I still have no plans of throwing my money at them any time soon, but for me, I couldn't ask for better news (again, not HOW that news was given) It sucks for console only players, no doubt, and they have every right to be upset. However, I think CCP made the right call here, if from no other perspective than a business one. DUST would never compete with next gen games. Legion will give them a run for their money. CCP is good at one thing only point and click. Eve was the easiest MMO i ever played. No skill involved just fittings that's it. A FPS Is totally different i have zero faith in CCP when it comes to shooters. Just look at Dust and all it's issues. Making Dust part 2 on PC Won't fix the issues CCP have with coding and core gameplay. Real talk they should stick to point and click games
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13993	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:04:00 - [97] - Quote KING SALASI wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I'll be the last person to defend how CCP went about all of this, all I'm saying is that for me, personally, this was basically the best case scenario. I really hope they manage to port it to PS4 as well, I really do, but for right now, PC is what will allow them the flexibility and breathing room to actually bring us the original vision. I was sold on that vision, and I was just about to set DUST down for good because I knew it would never be able to live up to that vision. CCP restored my hope with Legion. I'm still skeptical, I still have no plans of throwing my money at them any time soon, but for me, I couldn't ask for better news (again, not HOW that news was given) It sucks for console only players, no doubt, and they have every right to be upset. However, I think CCP made the right call here, if from no other perspective than a business one. DUST would never compete with next gen games. Legion will give them a run for their money. CCP is good at one thing only point and click. Eve was the easiest MMO i ever played. No skill involved just fittings that's it. A FPS Is totally different i have zero faith in CCP when it comes to shooters. Just look at Dust and all it's issues. Making Dust part 2 on PC Won't fix the issues CCP have with coding and core gameplay. Real talk they should stick to point and click games I'm more than happy to wait and see. Won't cost me a dime, so it's really no skin off my back.
Cardio Therapy Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2014.05.05 06:03:00 - [98] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". LOL, PC people are cheap bastards. Despite there being an INSANELY higher number of PCs out there Go here See the side bar for retail purchases. 2013 PC gaming software sales: 27,597,660 2013 gaming console/handheld software sales: 434,925,553 I would absolutely love to give you sales data for digital purchases, but the company that makes up 75% of all PC digital sales (steam) does not release sales figures. I can tell you that valve made under 1 billion dollars last year, which would put it at about 1/5th of activision. Face it, PC is a secondary thought to most game publishers because of rampant, easy piracy and easy cheats and lack-luster sales. There is ONE analyst stating that PC software revenue was $22 billion last year, and since steam does release it's numbers, I would love how he came to that figure. Console gaming? 38 billion dollars, and that is from multiple sources. Pc sales are declining 10% a year for the last few years. PC gaming is a socially unacceptable (i.e. nerdy) thing and PC gamers are mostly social pariahs. Sorry guys, it is the truth. I was addicted PC gamer with real gaming pc. I don't play anymore pc games. Pc is meant for work and consoles for gaming. 60% of pc players get their games for free from torrent sides. All pc games can be hacked. I played lineage2 and many other games with hack codes just for fun 95% of console players are buying their games and paying for them with real money. This is the main reason so many companies are making games for consoles and with xbox one and PS4 pc games will drastically decline. The global statistic is that pcs decrease over years and are replaced by tablets and consoles. Also legion will be in beta for 3-4 years and will fail like all other CCP projects except EVE. Until it comes out pc games will be past. Good Luck
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1440	Posted - 2014.05.05 08:57:00 - [99] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Vance Alken wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: Son Down wrote: The very reason it's being moved to PC. "PC People" have expendable income. Corporations do not provide goods and services out of a deep latent desire to provide happiness, it's for profit. Apparently "Console People" did not provide enough profit. Oh, aaaaand the game was abysmal due to it being on console. Hmmmm, there's that word again...."console". Hmmm me = console gamer with disposable income who has spent over $200 on Dust my son = 15 year old PC gamer whose disposable income is what I give him Stereotype some more why don't you. Oh well, you and everyone else who believes that CCP will deliver just because its now on PC can't say you weren't warned or didn't know ahead of time when you get **** over. Zahle you should talk to your kid, he seems to be a lot smarter with his allowance than you are with yours. I respect his right to play Minecraft and all the ** little Steam games he wants in his base room between bouts of maturbation to internet . I even respect your right to do the same or applaud CCP for *** a bunch of people over or buying their BS about it being the PS3 holding them back. Seems to me its the "PC master race" that is on the forums here shitting on people. Your boy is allowed to watch ** and play whatever games he wants, whenever he wants? Best. Dad. Ever. I've got a little girl, so I'd rather not think about that kinda thing, but I wish my dad had been as cool as you. <3 We are the 514, and we will not forget RIP Dust
ROEG X BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 56	Posted - 2014.05.05 12:33:00 - [100] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Cosgar wrote: Some games are tons better on PC when you think about stuff like modding and full range customization. Not for everybody mind you, but something to consider since cross platforming is going to be a thing. Do what you want, but just consider the option if you don't like having to buy a new console every 4-6 years. This is coming from a guy who's never going to give CCP another dollar, ever. I was trying to figure out what games could be better on consoles... Platformers? You can plug a controller into your PC. Couch co-op games? You can plug your PC into a TV. Those ******, terrible Xbox Live Arcade titles? Hrm, maybe, I mean obviously there's flash games on the PC, but even then most of them aren't that bad. The PlayStation 4 can do all of those things now. This is the generation where consoles are closing the gap with the PC.

Zelorian Dexter snr Vanguardian Remnant 213	Posted - 2014.05.05 12:40:00 - [101] - Quote Get the new Alienware X51 its only 599 pounds.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 36	Posted - 2014.05.05 12:45:00 - [102] - Quote Tldr- it sucks to be the op. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3118	Posted - 2014.05.05 12:49:00 - [103] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Tldr- it sucks to be the op. Why is that? Because I don't want to play games on the PC? Or perhaps it's because I'm forced to listen to PC mastur race scrubs and evetards babble on and on about how easy and super awesum PC gaming is? You got me on that one; that does definitely suck. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
RevoItZ The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad. 400	Posted - 2014.05.05 13:23:00 - [104] - Quote Build a gaming PC Winner of EU Prime League Tournament Winner of EU Squad Cup RIP MAG


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