I was trying to figure out what games could be better on consoles...

Platformers? You can plug a controller into your PC.

Couch co-op games? You can plug your PC into a TV.

Those ******, terrible Xbox Live Arcade titles? Hrm, maybe, I mean obviously there's flash games on the PC, but even then most of them aren't that bad.

That brings up another question, what could possibly make you people think that anyone expected Dust to stay on the PS3 forever? That's idiotic... much like putting my PC in the mythical part of my living room where it would get proper ventilation, my wife wouldn't ***** daily about it being an eyesore, or my kids wouldn't spill juice on it.

I am not a console only player. I pulled my PS3 out of the closet to play DUST. I set it up at my PC in the most screwed up possible so I could just play it without going over to my TV. I am not a "PC gamer" or a "Console gamer"; I play whatever the hell I want if I like regardless of the system.

I still feel like you are missing a bigger point that I am trying to make. I understand that saying that is insulting, and I apologize. Allow me to explain in a different manner, again only with the utmost respect.

Company: "We are working on this product. It is going to have cookies, robots, unicorns, connection to League of Legends, free beer, etc."
Me: "That sounds pretty good. I will support that product." *some time later.*
Me: "This product doesn't have all that. Are you working on it?"
Company: "Yes, we are working on it. It will have it all as we continue to develop it."
Me: "Okay, sounds good."
Company: "Welcome to Company Fest! We are pleased to announce a new product that will have cookies, robots, unicorns, connection to League of Legends, free beer, etc."
Me: "Woah! What about the other product?"
Company: "That product couldn't live up to our promises so we are starting a new project that will."
Me: "What about my money and time?"
Company: *24 hours later* "We will see what we can do."

It is a bait and switch. It has nothing to do "DUST was supposed to be a console game!" for me; it is "this game was supposed to be what it said it was going to be but now it isn't going to be what they said it was going to be and a different product will be what they said this one is going to be."

If I say "buy the red car if you like to go off-roading", you buy the red car but see that it can't go off-roading, are you going to be upset when I say "buy the blue car if you like to go off-roading; red car is something we will work on"?

I'm not arguing any of that, and I've said time and time again this past day that CCP couldn't have possibly handled this worse.

All I'm saying is that if the DUST IP is to succeed, it needs to be moved to PC for development. We NEED Legion. I don't know what can be done for console only players who poured money into DUST hoping it would somehow break free of the constraints of the PS3 and become something more. All I can say is that I hope for a PS4 port soon, so console gamers can get in on the action and keep their characters as the game evolves.

I'm not trying to defend CCPs actions leading up to this point, I'm merely agreeing that moving forward, this is what has to be done.

I was trying to figure out what games could be better on consoles...

Platformers? You can plug a controller into your PC.

Couch co-op games? You can plug your PC into a TV.

Those ******, terrible Xbox Live Arcade titles? Hrm, maybe, I mean obviously there's flash games on the PC, but even then most of them aren't that bad.

no one thought that dust would be on the ps3 forever. If you read the forums, plenty of threads popped up about dust being on the ps4. Until legion came out, that would have been the most logical assumption for the next version of dust.

I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything.

But I don't play games on it. Why?

There are any number of downsides you ignore because it's your own personal preference.

Literally the exact same thing can be said to you.

No sh!t sherlock. But I didn't make 15 threads telling you to ditch your PC and buy a console instead because herp derp reasons.



@Himiko: I'll give you credit. That answer at least has some logic behind it, but that does not factor in significantly, not all of my computers are Macs.

What makes you think Legion will not be as broken as Dust? Or come out in less than 2 years? There's always more questions than answers with CCP.

If they put Legion on the PS4 (which is where I fully expected Dust to be by 2015) and migrate my character, I'll give it a shot.
Doesn't make CCP any less douchy tho.

No sh!t sherlock. But I didn't make 15 threads telling you to ditch your PC and buy a console instead because herp derp reasons.

I'm not sure you did, but when Dust 514 was announced for PS3 and not PC plenty of console gamers did at the time, now the shoe is on the other foot.

CCP restored my hope with Legion. I'm still skeptical, I still have no plans of throwing my money at them any time soon, but for me, I couldn't ask for better news (again, not HOW that news was given)

It sucks for console only players, no doubt, and they have every right to be upset. However, I think CCP made the right call here, if from no other perspective than a business one. DUST would never compete with next gen games. Legion will give them a run for their money.

You must be easy pickings if they "restored hope" to you with that announcement. I've seen you be critical of dust before but between your name and the wings of legion thing I'd assume more of a fanboy than anything.

They didn't need great graphics. What they had was a good idea. They just couldn't follow it.

They delivered the news in the worst way possible. Nothing good will come from this. Fail developer is fail.

I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything.

But I don't play games on it. Why?

I want to come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it.

So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this.

Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

I've said numerous times I don't agree with how they handled things, merely that Legion is the inevitable evolution. PS3 is a dieing system and keeping the DUST IP attached to it is the fast track to failure.

I've said numerous times I don't agree with how they handled things, merely that Legion is the inevitable evolution. PS3 is a dieing system and keeping the DUST IP attached to it is the fast track to failure.

Plenty of these PC mastur race tards have said they thought thats what some of us expected.

As for you other clowns, perhaps you didn't see the part where I said I don't f*cking care about how much awesomer you say the PC gaming will be. I don't want to deal with installing the damn thing in my living room, the f*cking haxxors, the graphics card/processors arms race, getting crushed by people playing with KB/M with a massive built-in advantage. None of it.

Go away. You can suggest all this bullsh!t all day if you want and I will continue to ignore it because what you think is great is not great for everyone else. There are any number of downsides you ignore because it's your own personal preference.

HDMI and VGA are pretty sweet

I'm playing eve on a laptop that cost less than your ps3 and it has a smashed screen

it's pretty awesome

Rabblerabblerabblerabble

Now if eve was f2p.

I don't care. If I wanted to play PC games, guess what? I would be already. And IDGAF how cheap or easy building your own gaming rig is, or how much awesomer than a console it will be. I own 3 computers. I have a very nice top of the line Mac with a big ass screen and everything.

But I don't play games on it. Why?

I want to come home after a 12 hour day, sit down on my motherf*cking couch, put my feet up on the coffee table, pop open a beer, and shoot some bastards in the face on my HDTV with 6.1 digital surround, like God freaking intended it.

So do us all a favor and stop trying to convince me that I'm stupid, incompetent, or cheap, and that's why I don't want to play legion on a PC. And please get it out of your underdeveloped mind that this is the only or even main reason people are mad about this.

It's not that DUST isn't going to be what it was promised, it's that DUST CAN'T be what was promised. CCP was wrong, they made a mistake, and this is them owning up to it. It certainly sucks and they're going to be dealing with the fallout for a while, particularly how it was announced, but for anyone who got into this game on the original vision: this is what we wanted.

I really feel for you console only players, but there is still hope for a PS4 port once Legion is a real game on the PC, so there may be hope for you yet.

Do you know that the PS4 is x86? To make a PC and a PS4 version should be easy for any coder worth their salt. The PS3 was designed with their proprietary cell chip which made it so unique, thus difficult to code for.

The only logical evolution from a PS3 is the PS4.. not PC. And frankly, both can be accomplished.

one shard, right?

Except the PS4 resembles a PC far more than a PS3. It would be much easier to port a fleshed out next gen game from PC to PS4 then an old, buggy, outdated PS3 game to the PS4

I was under the impression that choices matter in New Eden, this week I learned that ultimately only CCP's choices matter, mine are inconsequential.

Nobody tells you anything.

You cant reeducate a console peasant, that is simply not possible.

You cant converse with him about higher plains. All he knows and thinks about is crops and cattle.