I use a variety of dropsuits and vehicles during play. I play multiple roles, each based on the context of the battle. The dynamic nature of my style ensures copious amounts of creative stimulation. I don' think there's anything that you could do to disrupt my enjoyment of the game. CCP, yes. You, no

Also, I have so much ISK that I frequently give it away so that people can enjoy the game more. Do you need any to buy some tanks?

No. I mean come on seriously? Do people even think about the complications of their convoluted ideas? ******* Christ.

edit:: Let me elaborate on why this a a terrible idea.

What does this solve? Nothing. Now in order for a tank to work it needs too people to operate at the minimum. So what? All you've done is make it so two coordinating people with mics are needed to operate a tank. It's still the same tank. Still the same level of difficulty to take down. It solves nothing.

"But tank spam!"

But shut the **** up. Tank spam is so overblown it's ******* ridiculous. In the past MONTH of playing Dust I have encountered tank spam literally three times. THREE matches out of several hundred had tank spam. The average for me is around ZERO to TWO tanks per match.

Not to mention lone wolf tankers are ******.
People without a mic are ******.

Teamwork should be recommended, but NEVER required just to play a role.

It isn't a terrible idea.

It doesn't solve anything 100% but it does have an effect on the problem by presenting a risk if overused, which is good enough without actually doing anything too severe regarding anything relating to stats or vehicle caps.

How does it effect tank spam?Takes another boot off the main force,require two players in order to operate a HAV,spam too many tanks on the field at once and you run too little infantry power on the ground who actually do all the work,kinda in the same way spamming tanks effects players on the opposing team by them having switching single if not mutiple players to AV weapons to have to deal with you and just you.

Tank spam is blown out of proportion yes but it very much real and does happen often because there nothing stomping someone over the range of a match from calling in tank after tank,death after death with little consequence when they have the ISK.

In all honesty how many HAV do you think you will see if Tankers have to fully rely on another random players, or corp mate to fulfil a fundamental role?

I know I won't be doing it, not because I can't but because I do not have a TZ that matches up with the rest of my corp.

For your convenience you would effective kill the game for me, and probably other players alike..... I would just wait to spec into MTAC or Jets, etc.

I don't understand why players come up with suggestions like this but instead ignore more reasonable statement like making HAV powerful AV units, requiring gunners and infantry support.......

LAVs aren't made for attack purposes, they were made for transportation purposes which is why they only have a single small turret and nothing else.

lore/gamemechanics beat logic and rl comparison.

In all honesty how many HAV do you think you will see if Tankers have to fully rely on another random players, or corp mate to fulfill a fundamental role?

Restricting an armored vehicle design 20K centuries in the future to use modern methodologies is simply not understanding the environment we play in.

Cue the tanker QQ

In all honesty how many HAV do you think you will see if Tankers have to fully rely on another random players, or corp mate to fulfill a fundamental role?

I would be the final straw for me. One reason I went back into tanks at 1.7 was because I wasn't forced to deal with useless Blue Belles ding donging around in my tank.

I was in squad today and another tanker dropped a three man tank. I gunned but we picked up a random in the squad. The zoid jumps in and before we have barely moved his turret is popping shots everywhere. I had nearly forgotten how much I hated having to suffer the ignorant actions of Random Blues directly.

They come up with stupid ideas because they have suffered a failure of imagination.

Restricting an armored vehicle design 20K centuries in the future to use modern methodologies is simply not understanding the environment we play in. And today we are having the military announce using autonomous piloting of many vehicles so a man on the ground can control it by him self. Not needing a crew at all.

To believe they are bringing a desperately needed solution to a problem they obviously don't understand is typical of these forums.



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This is one of many possible solutions to tanks. I am not sure it is the best, but it would make the most sense. Tanks are currently more powerful than any single player not in a tank, and can control all those functions himself. In a team strategy game, it seems wrong that the most powerful abilities in the game require 0 teamwork.

keep telling yourself that bub, I'm coming back into tanking when I log back into the game, so watch out.

I still have all of my experience of tanking before 1.7 hit so my awareness and reaction times have not been lost. To separate the seats would cause a very bad outrage and cause tanks to disappear because the lack of an incentive to use them anymore. everything in this game is made to be used fully by a single player, with their respective roles and differences of course.

I'm actually advocating now that AV be returned to pre 1.7 effectiveness so that the scrubs can be eliminated and those of us veteran tankers can stand out away from that crowd. that was it will take skill to be a tanker again.

For more than a year we had to use small turrets

We didnt have locks and no ability to boot anyone out either

So dumbass blueberry jumps in and fire at everything in sight which mostly was the enemy MCC and consistantly gives your position away

To tank effectively and on the quiet you had to be grouped up with another 2ppl who were willing to gun for you whenever you wanted to tank

Now we can get shut of small turrets for the better but now its OP

Infantry yet again wants us to use a crew but yet we have no way of locking the vehicle or booting anyone out and it means to use the HAV you always have to group up with someone willing to be the gunner or driver and that puts a restriction on the playstyle where every playstyle in the game can be done solo but not if you want to be a pilot. Not too mention 1 person has to put all the SP/ISK to use the damn vehicle while the gunner doesnt have to put anything into it at all.

Yet the reason we didnt want to fit small turrets on was because of infantry, because infantry are ******* ********, infantry brought this on themselves by being ********

Lets just say it happens, if these 2man tanks dominate the **** out of infantry again will you all cry? yes you will and you will want to restrict pilots yet again with some other BS method

Its amazing pilots dont ever tell infantry that they cant stack 4 shield extenders on it, or 3 armor reps but for a vehicle its OP and infantry consistantly tell us how to fit our vehicles which we put our SP into and ISK to use

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A properly balanced game and the enjoyment of ALL players >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lore OR realism

Because they fully believe it to be fair.

Infantry = following the status quo.

Tanker = oddball that sat in the corner in class and never talked to anyone. And because they can't destroy a tank with their AR, they feel they have the absolute right, more than vehicle users do, to dictate how vehicles will work.

"LAVs aren't made for attack purposes, that's why they have this giant gun on the back."

???

They're extremely effective anti-infantry vehicles, fit a small railgun to the back and go to town on people. Just because the majority of people in the game use them for transportation doesn't mean that that is their sole intended design. Just as people can use cheaply fit tanks to navigate the map there are more than a few people using LAVs as a platform to attack the enemy.

Why then can't I use my Core Rep Leash on myself? What about needles?

Not everything is designed for 100% solo functionality.