I don't know if you have ever played Eve Online, but I will assume you at least know some things about New Eden in my post...

Matchmaking by gear goes against New Eden's harsh environment and design philosophy. In Eve you can fit any ship with nearly anything (PG/CPU and slots permitting) and fly it out into the cold, lawless expanses of space. Someone can then come along in a properly fitted ship and blap you right out of the sky.

I don't know if you have ever played Eve Online, but I will assume you at least know some things about New Eden in my post...

Matchmaking by gear goes against New Eden's harsh environment and design philosophy. In Eve you can fit any ship with nearly anything (PG/CPU and slots permitting) and fly it out into the cold, lawless expanses of space. Someone can then come along in a properly fitted ship and blap you right out of the sky.

You learn lessons, you fit your ships better, you prioritize your targets better. You get better at Eve Online.

If CCP forces players into matches with similarly-geared players then they are preventing us from having agency in New Eden.

I say allow players to run full prototype fits against my MIL/STD fittings. Let squads of six run PRO gear 24/7. As one of my corpmates put it, "This is the wild ******* west son!"

To those that argue that protostomping needs to stomp to keep new players: you are wrong. Sorry, but you are. What we need is a robust new player experience. Tutorials, PvE, MIL variants of everything, free fittings appropriate to your chosen race. The works. This will educate the new players and give them a fighting chance so that when they face a squad of protobears they can put up a decent fight.

PDust is not eve. Eve is not dust

In EvE you chose what risk u take. If u dont want to risk running into uber dudes you stear clear nill space etc. Oh forget iv been saying this for two years if u guys cant work out why dust meta design and gameplay has nothing in common with EvE their is no point engageing you in this debate.

Its like saying gridiron should use this rule from rugby becauae they both use similer shapped balls and involve contact

I don't know if you have ever played Eve Online, but I will assume you at least know some things about New Eden in my post...

Matchmaking by gear goes against New Eden's harsh environment and design philosophy. In Eve you can fit any ship with nearly anything (PG/CPU and slots permitting) and fly it out into the cold, lawless expanses of space. Someone can then come along in a properly fitted ship and blap you right out of the sky.

You learn lessons, you fit your ships better, you prioritize your targets better. You get better at Eve Online.

If CCP forces players into matches with similarly-geared players then they are preventing us from having agency in New Eden.

I say allow players to run full prototype fits against my MIL/STD fittings. Let squads of six run PRO gear 24/7. As one of my corpmates put it, "This is the wild ******* west son!"

To those that argue that protostomping needs to stomp to keep new players: you are wrong. Sorry, but you are. What we need is a robust new player experience. Tutorials, PvE, MIL variants of everything, free fittings appropriate to your chosen race. The works. This will educate the new players and give them a fighting chance so that when they face a squad of protobears they can put up a decent fight.

People still get suicide ganked in EVE in high sec. Nowhere is safe in EVE and with the right amount of ISK someone can basically pay off CONCORD using wardecs. This would allow them to kill you in high sec without intervention.
I run PRO when I can afford it
I run ADV when I can't afford PRO.

If the people I had faced knew more about the game instead of hurrdurr shot the red dots they would stand a much higher chance of at least breaking my shields.

The moment he said "nerf buff culture" I just clicked off the video.

I'm sorry but nerfs and buffs are necessary, they're part of a healthy FPS, and healthy MMO.
There is no such thing as "nerf buff culture", if you find that your favorite fit gets nerfed all the time, maybe try the not so overpowered fits?

They are necessary. Unfortunately, it's all this game has been. We only just got all the suits this year and most of the weapon this year. Almost 12 months after the game came out. Some more maps have come but that's it really, Bulk of the time has gone to nerfing and buffing things and then nerfing the things that were buffed.

People still get suicide ganked in EVE in high sec. Nowhere is safe in EVE and with the right amount of ISK someone can basically pay off CONCORD using wardecs. This would allow them to kill you in high sec without intervention.
I run PRO when I can afford it
I run ADV when I can't afford PRO.

If the people I had faced knew more about the game instead of hurrdurr shot the red dots they would stand a much higher chance of at least breaking my shields.

Edit:
this definetly needs to happen ccp!

http://youtu.be/TO015hwROBg











Original post follows:
- We Are Killing This Game Part 1 -

EVERYONE NEEDS TO WATCH THIS

Even you ccp if u haven't already.

http://youtu.be/0_FbkCYDwW0

If u don't agree then something is wrong with you

I think you're missing the whole point of why Dust is having it's issues as it is: it's attempting at making a hybrid of an MMO/FPS which doesn't exactly or realistically exist. If that's the goal, then you're argument is self-defeating where skill > experience. If I gave a semi decent player 15M in skillpoints and great player just 500,000 skill points, it's really going to be hard for a skilled player to still succeed and find the game worthwhile.

Actually let's be brutally and realistically honest of what makes this game potentially breaking: no reason to invite new players. And yes I've played EvE for 3+ years and your example is really backwards; yea you can be killed anywhere but there aren't corps there actively looking to kill every newbie on the block in 1.0 space everyday now is there? That's what's wrong with your example. Likewise in a game like Dust the longer you've played, your skill points put you in a superior and dominant position. Why start a new character when it'll just get stomped all over now?

New content isn't the answer either. New stuff creates more issues of creating a balanced system. New buffs run into the same problem and events tend to really attract old players back and then they leave again.

That being said it's not like EvE in any way shape or form; you don't have a zone of extreme realistic safety where you can hone and train your skills. You don't have any means of inviting new players and keeping them here without the fear of tilting the tables to their disadvantage. You also have an endless cap which only favors the idea of long-term players.

I'll put it out there and simply say this game isn't possible to save at this stage. To put it into perspective for MAG players, it took the release of the Tamsen to really make players feel that game was running into the wrong direction and took several years before players were loosing interest in it. How far are we into EvE and we're discussing a longevity issue?

Maybe if they did a better matchmaking system accounting for skill points on a median basis rather than quantity of players, maybe if they had restricted pub matches based on skill points and value of ISK armor, maybe if they developed weapon/vehicle releases and updates more slowly to actually examine its effects on the game more thoroughly, maybe if they created a market where Dust players can sell their gains, maybe if they didn't emphasize the "mmo" aspect and more the "fps" aspect", maybe if they actually took the thoughtful input of honest and thought provoking posts more sincerely, maybe if they actually explored both the corp impact an solo play styles existing in the game more methodically.

Basically there is a ton of sh*t they could've done and they didn't. I get it, it's their game. But how long is it before it becomes "lights off" for this game because the player base decreases and the number of new players decline as well? Frankly I still think MAG was far and away a more superior game but that's me. What happened to achieving the fundamental of making a game fun, accessible to all and inviting versus elitist, hardcore-only and making it unattractive to give new players a shot?

I don't know if you have ever played Eve Online, but I will assume you at least know some things about New Eden in my post...

Matchmaking by gear goes against New Eden's harsh environment and design philosophy. In Eve you can fit any ship with nearly anything (PG/CPU and slots permitting) and fly it out into the cold, lawless expanses of space. Someone can then come along in a properly fitted ship and blap you right out of the sky.

You learn lessons, you fit your ships better, you prioritize your targets better. You get better at Eve Online.

They are necessary. Unfortunately, it's all this game has been. We only just got all the suits this year and most of the weapon this year. Almost 12 months after the game came out. Some more maps have come but that's it really, Bulk of the time has gone to nerfing and buffing things and then nerfing the things that were buffed.

@CCP:

In political philosophy, it is learned that the state has the DUTY to protect it's citizens from themselves. You as the metaphorical state, have the duty to protect us from ourselves by stopping us from killing this game

Fck that noise, the state only has a duty to protect it's citizens from others; so to correct your second sentence, they have a duty to protect new players from us by stopping us from killing this game

I don't know if you have ever played Eve Online, but I will assume you at least know some things about New Eden in my post...

Matchmaking by gear goes against New Eden's harsh environment and design philosophy. In Eve you can fit any ship with nearly anything (PG/CPU and slots permitting) and fly it out into the cold, lawless expanses of space. Someone can then come along in a properly fitted ship and blap you right out of the sky.

You learn lessons, you fit your ships better, you prioritize your targets better. You get better at Eve Online.

If CCP forces players into matches with similarly-geared players then they are preventing us from having agency in New Eden.

I say allow players to run full prototype fits against my MIL/STD fittings. Let squads of six run PRO gear 24/7. As one of my corpmates put it, "This is the wild ******* west son!"

To those that argue that protostomping needs to stomp to keep new players: you are wrong. Sorry, but you are. What we need is a robust new player experience. Tutorials, PvE, MIL variants of everything, free fittings appropriate to your chosen race. The works. This will educate the new players and give them a fighting chance so that when they face a squad of protobears they can put up a decent fight.

That's only part of that duty, the state has a duty to protect it's citizens for themselves, ie. no smoking in certain places etc., no texting and driving. Yes both of those examples can effect others, but remove other people from the scenario and who do they hurt? Themselves.