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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8435	Posted - 2014.04.16 13:05:00 - [1] - Quote Remote explosive delay: If I spot a remote explosive being thrown at me, I should have time to get away, this should not be a death sentence It should catch the blind, but if I spotted it, I should have all the time in the world to get away Damage: Three remote explosives can't kill any tank that puts on HP mods. That's just sad. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 187	Posted - 2014.04.16 13:14:00 - [2] - Quote Really? You just got the bleed out detonate ability taken away, now there is something else wrong with them? Why not kill the guy before he detonates it, he can't do it after he is dead, and he is unarmed throwing them, I think that is a fair trade. Spec into advanced, then you can place 6 on a tank.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1284	Posted - 2014.04.16 13:17:00 - [3] - Quote fun facts about remote explosives: -they can explode when thrown when you hit them while they drop down -killing someone with a militia weapon is faster than the time required to throw, arm and denotane the explosive. #gitgud
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 70	Posted - 2014.04.16 13:19:00 - [4] - Quote Aszazel wrote: Really? You just got the bleed out detonate ability taken away, now there is something else wrong with them? Why not kill the guy before he detonates it, he can't do it after he is dead, and he is unarmed throwing them, I think that is a fair trade. Spec into advanced, then you can place 6 on a tank. Remote explosives can still be detonated after being killed and respawning. Ie: You place 6 REs on a tank and get shot off before blowing them up, then you respawn. The REs are still stuck on the tank (unless someone else shoots them or the tank is killed), so you can still blow them up without having to put them back on. One time I was killed outside of my car with REs strapped to the front (I was gonna go Jihadding for my 72 virgins) and I was killed out. Guy and his friends decided to hack my car and get in. Just so happens I decided to respawn in the same suit. Triggered my boom-booms and annihilated their persons. Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 430	Posted - 2014.04.16 13:31:00 - [5] - Quote Throw down uplink and die. Holy **** the uplink is still.... Two peas in a bucket....
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 108	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:19:00 - [6] - Quote I would sympathize with you if it didn't take like 6 centuries to throw and arm a remote explosive
Criteria Shipment Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 793	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:31:00 - [7] - Quote I still survive with 0 HP. I say NAY Goodbye, world! (püú-ÿ+í-ÿ-é)
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 352	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:46:00 - [8] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: I would sympathize with you if it didn't take like 6 centuries to throw and arm a remote explosive They arm pretty quick. But throw - such a strong word You cant toss them far at all and the range isnt enormous. Cat is off on that part. I would favour Lv3 and Lv5 RE's being able to do more damage though. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8437	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:27:00 - [9] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: I would sympathize with you if it didn't take like 6 centuries to throw and arm a remote explosive They arm pretty quick. But throw - such a strong word You cant toss them far at all and the range isnt enormous. Cat is off on that part. I would favour Lv3 and Lv5 RE's being able to do more damage though. The range is actually pretty big, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the roof top scum who just throw down explosives from a roof. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Sinboto Simmons Sver true blood General Tso's Alliance 5873	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:42:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Master Smurf wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: I would sympathize with you if it didn't take like 6 centuries to throw and arm a remote explosive They arm pretty quick. But throw - such a strong word You cant toss them far at all and the range isnt enormous. Cat is off on that part. I would favour Lv3 and Lv5 RE's being able to do more damage though. The range is actually pretty big, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the roof top scum who just throw down explosives from a roof. The range is 5 meters, from basic to proto, my MD and any grenades in my arsenal have a bigger radius. No change too them, and no reason to use anything other than basic, barring the amount carried and placed, if you're going to be change the deployment times something needs to be done about that, having the proto version cost more on all fronts yet receive no boon is wrong no matter how you slice it. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)

Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 889	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:49:00 - [11] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Smurf wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: I would sympathize with you if it didn't take like 6 centuries to throw and arm a remote explosive They arm pretty quick. But throw - such a strong word You cant toss them far at all and the range isnt enormous. Cat is off on that part. I would favour Lv3 and Lv5 RE's being able to do more damage though. The range is actually pretty big, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the roof top scum who just throw down explosives from a roof. The range is 5 meters, from basic to proto, my MD and any grenades in my arsenal have a bigger radius. No change too them, and no reason to use anything other than basic, barring the amount carried and placed, if you're going to be change the deployment times something needs to be done about that, having the proto version cost more on all fronts yet receive no boon is wrong no matter how you slice it. I think he means range in terms of how far you can throw them. Still it's very limited, they go 3-5m tops and drop straight down. There is absolutely no arc after the initial few meters. Someone throwing these off roofs is far less effective than a Rail Rifle on the same roof.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1922	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:52:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Master Smurf wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: I would sympathize with you if it didn't take like 6 centuries to throw and arm a remote explosive They arm pretty quick. But throw - such a strong word You cant toss them far at all and the range isnt enormous. Cat is off on that part. I would favour Lv3 and Lv5 RE's being able to do more damage though. The range is actually pretty big, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the roof top scum who just throw down explosives from a roof. While it's annoying, try not standing directly under them... REs are fine, though I would accept your proposal of increased arming delay in exchange for more damage. Nerdier than thou
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 352	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:08:00 - [13] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Master Smurf wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: I would sympathize with you if it didn't take like 6 centuries to throw and arm a remote explosive They arm pretty quick. But throw - such a strong word You cant toss them far at all and the range isnt enormous. Cat is off on that part. I would favour Lv3 and Lv5 RE's being able to do more damage though. The range is actually pretty big, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the roof top scum who just throw down explosives from a roof. lol - Nerf Roofs Forge / MD / Tanks / Sniper "Shine bright like a diamond"
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 352	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:21:00 - [14] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: The range is 5 meters, from basic to proto, my MD and any grenades in my arsenal have a bigger radius. No change too them, and no reason to use anything other than basic, barring the amount carried and placed, if you're going to be change the deployment times something needs to be done about that, having the proto version cost more on all fronts yet receive no boon is wrong no matter how you slice it. Thats why I would favour increasing damage (maybe 1750 and 2000) and range. - I would also slightly increase the time to arm. The thinking is that they could do massive damage but you need to clear the area before you detonate or you would kill yourself (for the adv and proto versions) An alternative is having a different kind of RE so these ones stay the same with slight changes to promote levelling past basic and having the other be more of a wide blast destructive force but a longer arm time. And then just remove proxy ones from the game. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Yan Darn Science For Death 610	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:12:00 - [15] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Master Smurf wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: I would sympathize with you if it didn't take like 6 centuries to throw and arm a remote explosive They arm pretty quick. But throw - such a strong word You cant toss them far at all and the range isnt enormous. Cat is off on that part. I would favour Lv3 and Lv5 RE's being able to do more damage though. The range is actually pretty big, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the roof top scum who just throw down explosives from a roof. Roof top scum is roof top scum? Also - are you not fluxing your tanks before you detonate? The Ghost of Bravo
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN 898	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:21:00 - [16] - Quote I support giving them more damage in return for a longer arming time. With the arming time they have now the damn things are basically perfectly cooked grenades that do more damage; They just don't go as far but that's fixed with a cheap speed suit that allows you to get in close and detonate before dying even crosses your mind. Support Orbital Spawns
Eruditus 920 Bragian Order Amarr Empire 24	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:24:00 - [17] - Quote Change this and change that because I said. Grow a pair sir. CCP Please release new content and pay no attention to these children. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN 898	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:28:00 - [18] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Change this and change that because I said. Grow a pair sir. CCP Please release new content and pay no attention to these children. The children are the ones that would rather leave the game broken just so they can have new stuff that will turn out to be broken as well; but they won't care, they'll just say "Hey, give me some more new stuff". Support Orbital Spawns
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2310	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:35:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Master Smurf wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: I would sympathize with you if it didn't take like 6 centuries to throw and arm a remote explosive They arm pretty quick. But throw - such a strong word You cant toss them far at all and the range isnt enormous. Cat is off on that part. I would favour Lv3 and Lv5 RE's being able to do more damage though. The range is actually pretty big, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the roof top scum who just throw down explosives from a roof. Haha, I do that at the Gallente facility sometimes Sometimes they spot them though and throw a flux. Why don't you be like them and get good?
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 129	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:50:00 - [20] - Quote Well, RE kills are only as common as Nova Knives in the killfeed, from my observations. And I was shocked too after getting three RE's onto the backside (most vulnerable) of a Madrugar who finished hardening, and he walked away with half armor.

ROCKO THE HELLHOUND Ultramarine Corp 43	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:00:00 - [21] - Quote it should be just a tool for instalation destructions and traps - as much as the cloak should be only for crossing distances undetected - instead of for sneaking up on people, raping them to death from behind - and de-cloaking afterwards over their dead bodies (also tends to ruin the sad rest of positive NPE here completely...). so next to a staggering +5 seconds delay between decloaking and successful weapon/ equipment switch on the cloak - and a same as long delay before a laid RE can be detonated, i would also like to see a doubled ammo & active-count, along with an 100% stacking penalty like with cloaks - but a damage decrease versus infantry to only 400, because throwing explosives left and right in the middle of people like a reta*ded Psycho from the Borderlands games is just unstylish and an unrealistic Competitive Shooter-Game move. and if throwing one really should be a death-sentence without a proper chance to escape for your enemy infanterists, they could as well just remove the grenade-indicator on your screen when somebody throws a grenade at you too :( .
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1485	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:11:00 - [22] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Remote explosive delay: If I spot a remote explosive being thrown at me, I should have time to get away, this should not be a death sentence It should catch the blind, but if I spotted it, I should have all the time in the world to get away Damage: Three remote explosives can't kill any tank that puts on HP mods. That's just sad. Normal conditions i'd like to support some of your points. But JLAV is the only viable option to kill tanks now... Also love the JDS worth the LuLz
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN 900	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:30:00 - [23] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Remote explosive delay: If I spot a remote explosive being thrown at me, I should have time to get away, this should not be a death sentence It should catch the blind, but if I spotted it, I should have all the time in the world to get away Damage: Three remote explosives can't kill any tank that puts on HP mods. That's just sad. Normal conditions i'd like to support some of your points. But JLAV is the only viable option to kill tanks now... Also love the JDS worth the LuLz A delayed arming time wouldn't negatively impact JLAV's ability to kill tanks unless you're putting RE's on the LAV fairly close to the tank in which case you're damn lucky the tanker hasn't killed you and destroyed your LAV by the time they arm now; and increased damage would obviously improve it's ability to kill tanks. Support Orbital Spawns
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8446	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:31:00 - [24] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Remote explosive delay: If I spot a remote explosive being thrown at me, I should have time to get away, this should not be a death sentence It should catch the blind, but if I spotted it, I should have all the time in the world to get away Damage: Three remote explosives can't kill any tank that puts on HP mods. That's just sad. Normal conditions i'd like to support some of your points. But JLAV is the only viable option to kill tanks now... Also love the JDS worth the LuLz My suggestion would actually make JLAV's MORE powerful. Triple haredeners? HAH, don't make me laugh! Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Eruditus 920 Bragian Order Amarr Empire 25	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:33:00 - [25] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Change this and change that because I said. Grow a pair sir. CCP Please release new content and pay no attention to these children. The children are the ones that would rather leave the game broken just so they can have new stuff that will turn out to be broken as well; but they won't care, they'll just say "Hey, give me some more new stuff". Tweaking data to favor a personal preference and fixing bugs are two different things, "Thumb Green". "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN 900	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:40:00 - [26] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Change this and change that because I said. Grow a pair sir. CCP Please release new content and pay no attention to these children. The children are the ones that would rather leave the game broken just so they can have new stuff that will turn out to be broken as well; but they won't care, they'll just say "Hey, give me some more new stuff". Tweaking data to favor a personal preference and fixing bugs are two different things, "Thumb Green". Bugs aren't the only thing that breaks a game, "Eruditus 920". Support Orbital Spawns
Eruditus 920 Bragian Order Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2014.04.16 19:02:00 - [27] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Change this and change that because I said. Grow a pair sir. CCP Please release new content and pay no attention to these children. The children are the ones that would rather leave the game broken just so they can have new stuff that will turn out to be broken as well; but they won't care, they'll just say "Hey, give me some more new stuff". Tweaking data to favor a personal preference and fixing bugs are two different things, "Thumb Green". Bugs aren't the only thing that breaks a game, "Eruditus 920". Then let's use your logic, Greenie, and ask all 3500 DUST players what they would like changed. Not correcting known bugs, just tailoring the game to suit each one feels "breaks the game". You will get 3500 different opinions. Sound viable? Sound business model? No. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8446	Posted - 2014.04.16 19:05:00 - [28] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Change this and change that because I said. Grow a pair sir. CCP Please release new content and pay no attention to these children. The children are the ones that would rather leave the game broken just so they can have new stuff that will turn out to be broken as well; but they won't care, they'll just say "Hey, give me some more new stuff". Tweaking data to favor a personal preference and fixing bugs are two different things, "Thumb Green". Bugs aren't the only thing that breaks a game, "Eruditus 920". Then let's use your logic, Greenie, and ask all 3500 DUST players what they would like changed. Not correcting known bugs, just tailoring the game to suit each one feels "breaks the game". You will get 3500 different opinions. Sound viable? Sound business model? No. If they present sound reasoning, then yes. If they just request something without explaining why it's necessary, then no. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3413	Posted - 2014.04.16 19:17:00 - [29] - Quote I don't think you should be able to throw them as far as you are able to. I also think when you toss them down from pipes they should detonate wherever they land instead of being able to wait until there's a cluster of people. Level 3 Forum Warrior
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1487	Posted - 2014.04.16 19:19:00 - [30] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Remote explosive delay: If I spot a remote explosive being thrown at me, I should have time to get away, this should not be a death sentence It should catch the blind, but if I spotted it, I should have all the time in the world to get away Damage: Three remote explosives can't kill any tank that puts on HP mods. That's just sad. Normal conditions i'd like to support some of your points. But JLAV is the only viable option to kill tanks now... Also love the JDS worth the LuLz My suggestion would actually make JLAV's MORE powerful. Triple haredeners? HAH, don't make me laugh! Then your Post +1 Down with lolTankers...



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