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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.16 04:42:00 -
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Anyone else sick of it? I am...right now sniper rifles are in need of minor buffs but the anti sniper part of the community keep this from happening cause of these reasons below
1. butthurt by death by sniper 2. Anger that they cant walk up and shot them 3. Anger that someone didnt counter snipe before they died 4. Their to stupid to think of counter sniping themselves until they are about to lose profit 5. They dont understand the tactical advantage of having 1 or 2 snipers 6. They dont snipe so they just assume we are all KB/M 7. Anger at realization that it was a controller sniper that killed him 8. They want to be unkillable ( o i died! Nerf whatever killed me!) 9. Their own lack of patients to sit there waiting for that perfect shot
I will stop the list there for now but ill continue if i must
You know some of the guys your fighting against thats lost shield with no friendly in sight to have done it..that was a sniper helping you Or when your alive but theres a random body behind you...sniper saved you or a RE on a open objective exploding for no reason....you guessed it..sniper saving you from your lack of observation
We do more than you relize and you take it for granted...calm your **** about us cause as a character once said "Snipings a good job, mate, keeps your comrades alive and your enemies lying n there own blood"
-holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.16 04:46:00 -
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what snipers? they cant even get headshots.
theres no snipers in dust.
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McFurious
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
709
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Posted - 2014.04.16 04:48:00 -
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I have no problem with snipers. Unless they're redline snipers. Then they should go biomass.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.16 04:52:00 -
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McFurious wrote:I have no problem with snipers. Unless they're redline snipers. Then they should go biomass.
Redline sniper come out...lets see,they come out...WHEN THEY ARE REDLINED -gasp-
"but Guardian they should move out of redline"
How? They are redlined for a reason...kinda hard to avoid the 16 mercs patroling trying to find you leaving it
-holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2014.04.16 04:57:00 -
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Kinda hard to justify when a sniper has little if any effect on the outcome.
You want to play super camping experience 7? Go somewhere else, this is Dust. redliners like you are pathetic shots who couldn't get the shot under pressure of any kind, or they're scared punks who jerk it over their KDR.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:06:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Kinda hard to justify when a sniper has little if any effect on the outcome.
You want to play super camping experience 7? Go somewhere else, this is Dust. redliners like you are pathetic shots who couldn't get the shot under pressure of any kind, or they're scared punks who jerk it over their KDR.
Another flapping lip saying we are pointless...we arent..we help the battle more than you understand..ive turned battles by taking out the proto logi healing the proto heavy....ive killed tanker before there tank dropped allowing my team to have it...snipers that are harrasing my allies, scouts going for flanking, jihad lavs going for tanks
All things that help the tide of battle
Think about the small things you take for gradient from us before you blow us off...you might just be on the opposite end of the bullet one day
-holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
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Sinboto Simmons
Sver true blood General Tso's Alliance
5860
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:07:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote:McFurious wrote:I have no problem with snipers. Unless they're redline snipers. Then they should go biomass. Redline sniper come out...lets see,they come out...WHEN THEY ARE REDLINED -gasp- "but Guardian they should move out of redline" How? They are redlined for a reason...kinda hard to avoid the 16 mercs patroling trying to find you leaving it To think that redline snipers only come out when the team is redlined is....well just ignorance.
Nothing against you, but that's some shoddy reasoning there.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:23:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Gaurdian Satyr wrote:McFurious wrote:I have no problem with snipers. Unless they're redline snipers. Then they should go biomass. Redline sniper come out...lets see,they come out...WHEN THEY ARE REDLINED -gasp- "but Guardian they should move out of redline" How? They are redlined for a reason...kinda hard to avoid the 16 mercs patroling trying to find you leaving it To think that redline snipers only come out when the team is redlined is....well just ignorance. Nothing against you, but that's some shoddy reasoning there.
Non taken but there is now really only 2 decent redline sniping maps and those leave you horribly exposed while the rest have some sniping points at the edge of redline but are so well known now that they arent even considered to be used by anyone that wants to themselves alive....every other excellent point is outside of redline and is normally taken up by people that follow you, throwing uplinks then have the rest of team exposing you by jumping off it to attack...
Also i keep always keep tally of how many sniper are on my team and where they are located at....redline sniping happens when we start to get pushed back and our locations would no longer be safe if we stayed there to snipe...
You wouldnt take on a few guys in a mid suit, flaylock (close range this is the sniper at best) and sub machinegun would you? Why should we be forced to just because you want us to?
-holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5104
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:28:00 -
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Both Snipers and the red line need a total revamp, at the same time.
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:31:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Both Snipers and the red line need a total revamp, at the same time.
May regret asking but Will you explain what you thinks need done?
-holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:33:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Kinda hard to justify when a sniper has little if any effect on the outcome.
You want to play super camping experience 7? Go somewhere else, this is Dust. redliners like you are pathetic shots who couldn't get the shot under pressure of any kind, or they're scared punks who jerk it over their KDR.
EDIT: lv 4 sniper rifles, and I also countersnipe with a forge gun when I'm bored/want to cement that "Just quit it, you're terrible at this." moment. If you are spotting that sniper with a heavy suit then that sniper sux
I Start To Wonder If I Am Masochistic After Playing This Game...........
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Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:33:00 -
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McFurious wrote:I have no problem with snipers. Unless they're redline snipers. Then they should go biomass. This right here is the ONLY reason why I hate snipers. With the redline situation right now most snipers are just cowards thinking they're good. Although I do love hunting snipers with my laser and watching them squirm thinking it's someone right behind them when I'm really 70+ meters away lol.
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:34:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Both Snipers and the red line need a total revamp, at the same time. Not snipers, just the redline
I Start To Wonder If I Am Masochistic After Playing This Game...........
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:42:00 -
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Echoist wrote:McFurious wrote:I have no problem with snipers. Unless they're redline snipers. Then they should go biomass. This right here is the ONLY reason why I hate snipers. With the redline situation right now most snipers are just cowards thinking they're good. Although I do love hunting snipers with my laser and watching them squirm thinking it's someone right behind them when I'm really 70+ meters away lol.
But can you identify the good snipers from the scrub snipers? There are a few good on but here is a secret to identify the scrub...the scrub while return the same spot 4 time at least before they stop trying....it takes a good sniper only one bullet for a good sniper to find a new place and never return...scrubick a spot and squit...good ones have a escape route in mind at all times
And ill say this...the redline isnt a problem.....ITS THE ONE SIDED SLAUGHTER FEAST IN 90% OF MATCHES
-holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
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Import Beercase
Beer For Evil Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:48:00 -
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I like the sniper aspect of the game.
Only those solo Thale mcc snipers are sad but maybe it gives them good vibes. I do get nice feeling when Warbarge clears up the dust on the enemy mcc and I see ragdolls flying around.
The squad I play with usually includes 1-2 snipers. Why I like it? Because I am not so good at gungame etc. and they do support me on the field and if I know that when enemy calls tanks or what direction the reberries are pushing. It helps me to improve my own gameplay and score. I even have the nerve to wait for the squad sniper support to take out enemy hives and droplinks before moving in to a fight.
I have never been angry if enemy sniper shoots me to pieces. GG and nice shot.
"If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you."
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Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:48:00 -
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pffffft... I help my squadmercs by shooting enemy near them or I keep the objective clear. If I could use mic (I don't wake up wife and kids) I would shout "headups". -Thale's in redline-
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:49:00 -
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Import Beercase wrote:I like the sniper aspect of the game.
Only those solo Thale mcc snipers are sad but maybe it gives them good vibes. I do get nice feeling when Warbarge clears up the dust on the enemy mcc and I see ragdolls flying around.
The squad I play with usually includes 1-2 snipers. Why I like it? Because I am not so good at gungame etc. and they do support me on the field and if I know that when enemy calls tanks or what direction the reberries are pushing. It helps me to improve my own gameplay and score. I even have the nerve to wait for the squad sniper support to take out enemy hives and droplinks before moving in to a fight.
I have never been angry if enemy sniper shoots me to pieces. GG and nice shot.
sametime
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:53:00 -
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so many times have i made that change in battle becuase i sniped that one person trying to ahck teh objective. or being that **** sniper with a thales or ishukone ona gallente gk.o with alot of damge adn hurt to pick off anyone anywhere.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2104
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:56:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:what snipers? they cant even get headshots.
theres no snipers in dust.
Actually, they probably hit you in the head plenty of times. Headshots just don't do enough damage to kill you.
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:07:00 -
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A good sniper can change the entire flow of battle.
Unfortunately, virtually all dedicated snipers in this game suck and have 0 impact in game. When I get shot or killed by sniper, do you know what I do? I ignore the sniper. Chances are the sniper isn't helping his team and therefore not worth the effort of countering.
And don't blame the gear. It's not the gun that's inadequate, it the merc holding the gun. Wont take the effort to line up headshots? Can't be bothered to hit your target multiple times? Won't make you shots matter in helping your team win because your too busy padding worthless KDR? Oh "boo-hoo".
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:11:00 -
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Bad snipers are Shotgun bait if they're not in the redline, and counter-sniper bait if they are.
Good snipers, on the other hand...
I know a few. They're very useful on your team, and a major threat on the enemy team. A good Scout can track and eliminate them - most of the time. But not always. |
Reallusion GrimSleeper
Need Permission to Die LLC
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:20:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote: 9. Their own lack of patients to sit there waiting for that perfect shot
Maybe their medics forgot to fill their nano injectors cause they were too occupied watching Michael Jordan. No?
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:47:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Kinda hard to justify when a sniper has little if any effect on the outcome.
You want to play super camping experience 7? Go somewhere else, this is Dust. redliners like you are pathetic shots who couldn't get the shot under pressure of any kind, or they're scared punks who jerk it over their KDR. Another flapping lip saying we are pointless...we arent..we help the battle more than you understand..ive turned battles by taking out the proto logi healing the proto heavy....ive killed tanker before there tank dropped allowing my team to have it...snipers that are harrasing my allies, scouts going for flanking, jihad lavs going for tanks All things that help the tide of battle Think about the small things you take for gradient from us before you blow us off...you might just be on the opposite end of the bullet one day
Oh look! Another sniper with a hugely inflated sense of self worth. Isn't that sweet.
Its time to face the sad truth that in this game snipers have zero, read it again I said zero, impact on the success of a team. In fact I would say that snipers have more of a negative impact on their own team than they do on that of the enemy. I have played with many of the best snipers in the game (among which Guardian does not number) and even they will admit that in the game's current state they are not benefiting their team mates in a way that substantially contributes to the team's success. The more snipers there are on the field right now, the fewer people there are actually attacking and defending points.
Get off the towers, and out hills. Drop your long rifles. Your team needs you, to do something usefull.
Fun > Realism
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
667
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:14:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Anyone else sick of it? I am...right now sniper rifles are in need of minor nerfs but the sniper part of the community keep this from happening cause of these reasons below
1. butthurt by death by sniper 2. Anger that they cant walk up and shot them because they are hiding in the redline 3. Anger that someone didnt counter snipe before they died 4. Their to stupid to think of not hiding in the redline like the little girl they are 5. They dont understand the tactical disadvantage of having 1 or 2 snipers 6. They dont run ground game so they just assume we are all KB/M super strafers 7. Anger at realization that it was a controller infantry that killed him 8. They want to be unkillable ( o i died! Nerf whatever killed me!) by hiding in the redline with little risk
I will stop the list there for now but ill continue if i must
You know some of the guys your fighting against thats lost shield with no friendly in sight to have done it..that was a infantry actually playing the objective Or when your alive but theres a random body behind you...sniper never saved you or a RE on a open objective exploding for no reason....you guessed it..infantry fluxing the objective
Infantry win fights. Snipers, in DUST are cowards.
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Horizen Kenpachi
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:59:00 -
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Leave sniping for the scubs and cowards as they will never get that gg feeling sat on their lonesome providing (intell) lol even though the majority run solo ps u dont need a buff u need to learn to aim
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Gauder Berwyck
Deadly Blue Dots
343
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:00:00 -
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Stupid blue dot snipers is why we need gas grenades and friendly fire on
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:10:00 -
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There's been butthurt about snipers?
This is news to me - haven't seen a butthurt because of snipers thread in yonks. In fact, I barely see anything about snipers on these forums anymore. Please point me to these sniper butthurt threads so I may go and point and laugh at them. Thanks
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5647
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:16:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:A good sniper can change the entire flow of battle.
Unfortunately, virtually all dedicated snipers in this game suck and have 0 impact in game. When I get shot or killed by sniper, do you know what I do? I ignore the sniper. Chances are the sniper isn't helping his team and therefore not worth the effort of countering.
And don't blame the gear. It's not the gun that's inadequate, it the merc holding the gun. Wont take the effort to line up headshots? Can't be bothered to hit your target multiple times? Won't make you shots matter in helping your team win because your too busy padding worthless KDR? Oh "boo-hoo".
Pretty much.
Snipers in PC? I don't even hear about it much anymore since they changed the objective layouts.
Maybe one to watch one objective on the Depot map but that's it. Snipers are generally just another player taken off the field that could otherwise help push objective. Snipers can and could help but the snipers in this game, especially pub snipers, are just useless.
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
533
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:26:00 -
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A good sniper i useful, having someone on comms with a good view of the battlefield that can provide fire support is a huge benefit. Problem is 99% of "snipers" in dust just sit in the redline where they can't really help the team. |
Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:56:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:medomai grey wrote:A good sniper can change the entire flow of battle.
Unfortunately, virtually all dedicated snipers in this game suck and have 0 impact in game. When I get shot or killed by sniper, do you know what I do? I ignore the sniper. Chances are the sniper isn't helping his team and therefore not worth the effort of countering.
And don't blame the gear. It's not the gun that's inadequate, it the merc holding the gun. Wont take the effort to line up headshots? Can't be bothered to hit your target multiple times? Won't make you shots matter in helping your team win because your too busy padding worthless KDR? Oh "boo-hoo".
Pretty much. Snipers in PC? I don't even hear about it much anymore since they changed the objective layouts. Maybe one to watch one objective on the Depot map but that's it. Snipers are generally just another player taken off the field that could otherwise help push objective. Snipers can and could help but the snipers in this game, especially pub snipers, are just useless.
Very niche. Lol Z was saying he wanted to spec into Calmmando to snipe on Spine Crescent. There are basically 3/4 places in all the PC maps that a sniper has a good vantage point from. Most of them, everyone knows exactlywhere they are at as soon s they get a single kill.
Sniping is just FUBAR at this point in time. They intentionally altered the maps to hinder sniping on the PC maps, changed the textures on certain structure to disable them as a perch. And. People finally learned to never hack alone. They also learned t use te Min Logi... and shield tank that speed hacker... but that didn't happen til after they altered the maps/
Especially with the introduction of the cloak. That was pretty much the nail in the coffin for objective watch. Camping with a shotty. Or better yet, 2 people camping one with a shotty one with a combat rifle, are way better thana sniper could ever be.
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