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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:22:00 -
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I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1185
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:47:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem.
Where's my experience in PC you ask?
How about when NG/PI held 16% of molden heath and we didn't discrict lock.
Yes, I was in NG/PI.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:54:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. Where's my experience in PC you ask? How about when NG/PI held 16% of molden heath and we didn't discrict lock. Yes, I was in NG/PI.
For the whole of what length? Your PC career, from the sounds of it, is based on the past. You're not currently involved. How do you represent me?
I should of added that being a part of a PC corps logistics is honestly enough, and that having a past record in PC isn't unless lengthy. You'd at least have some understanding of how truly low TTK is, as well as the many woes of map design and how changes to stats makes big impacts, or none at all, such as the increase to uplink spawn time.
I know it's hard for current candidates to do anything to fix PC experience with DNS's hands on everyones balls - but didn't that occur because the community is unhealthy due to lack of leaders stepping up? What makes you a good enough leader to step up for a community when you can't step up to PC? |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1185
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:02:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. Where's my experience in PC you ask? How about when NG/PI held 16% of molden heath and we didn't discrict lock. Yes, I was in NG/PI. For the whole of what length? Your PC career, from the sounds of it, is based on the past. You're not currently involved. How do you represent me? I should of added that being a part of a PC corps logistics is honestly enough, and that having a past record in PC isn't unless lengthy. You'd at least have some understanding of how truly low TTK is, as well as the many woes of map design and how changes to stats makes big impacts, or none at all, such as the increase to uplink spawn time. I know it's hard for current candidates to do anything to fix PC experience with DNS's hands on everyones balls - but didn't that occur because the community is unhealthy due to lack of leaders stepping up? What makes you a good enough leader to step up for a community when you can't step up to PC?
Yes it was in the past, I was in PC from the start or EoN till disctric locking occurred. The reason I'm not in it any longer is the carebear bullshit that happened and the lack of interest given because of it.
PC in its current form needs scrapped and in my opinion discrict lockers need to have their 'hard earned ISK' removed.
They are one of the main problems with this game, npe and general experience of the player base.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:07:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. Where's my experience in PC you ask? How about when NG/PI held 16% of molden heath and we didn't discrict lock. Yes, I was in NG/PI. For the whole of what length? Your PC career, from the sounds of it, is based on the past. You're not currently involved. How do you represent me? I should of added that being a part of a PC corps logistics is honestly enough, and that having a past record in PC isn't unless lengthy. You'd at least have some understanding of how truly low TTK is, as well as the many woes of map design and how changes to stats makes big impacts, or none at all, such as the increase to uplink spawn time. I know it's hard for current candidates to do anything to fix PC experience with DNS's hands on everyones balls - but didn't that occur because the community is unhealthy due to lack of leaders stepping up? What makes you a good enough leader to step up for a community when you can't step up to PC? Yes it was in the past, I was in PC from the start or EoN till disctric locking occurred. The reason I'm not in it any longer is the carebear bullshit that happened and the lack of interest given because of it. PC in its current form needs scrapped and in my opinion discrict lockers need to have their 'hard earned ISK' removed. They are one of the main problems with this game, npe and general experience of the player base.
This is unacceptable response from a CPM candidate. You gave up. Did Kane give up? District locking was bad, sure, but there was a method in which to pick that lock. Check the history of districts being flipped - during the times of locked many were being flipped by NF.
So I do not find any excuse of care bear acceptable to the abandonment of PC. That is simply people accepting a bad system for what it is and hoping for someone else to fix it. That is not what I want in a CPM. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1185
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:13:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. Where's my experience in PC you ask? How about when NG/PI held 16% of molden heath and we didn't discrict lock. Yes, I was in NG/PI. For the whole of what length? Your PC career, from the sounds of it, is based on the past. You're not currently involved. How do you represent me? I should of added that being a part of a PC corps logistics is honestly enough, and that having a past record in PC isn't unless lengthy. You'd at least have some understanding of how truly low TTK is, as well as the many woes of map design and how changes to stats makes big impacts, or none at all, such as the increase to uplink spawn time. I know it's hard for current candidates to do anything to fix PC experience with DNS's hands on everyones balls - but didn't that occur because the community is unhealthy due to lack of leaders stepping up? What makes you a good enough leader to step up for a community when you can't step up to PC? Yes it was in the past, I was in PC from the start or EoN till disctric locking occurred. The reason I'm not in it any longer is the carebear bullshit that happened and the lack of interest given because of it. PC in its current form needs scrapped and in my opinion discrict lockers need to have their 'hard earned ISK' removed. They are one of the main problems with this game, npe and general experience of the player base. This is unacceptable response from a CPM candidate. You gave up. Did Kane give up? District locking was bad, sure, but there was a method in which to pick that lock. Check the history of districts being flipped - during the times of locked many were being flipped by NF. So I do not find any excuse of care bear acceptable to the abandonment of PC. That is simply people accepting a bad system for what it is and hoping for someone else to fix it. That is not what I want in a CPM.
Kane in my opinion is a giant **** lord and I don't give a flux about what he does and doesn't do. I'd like to see one example of Kane doing something for the new player, something for non elitist tryhards, you know, the ones who will boaster the player numbers so CCP can actually do something about matchmaking?
If you don't like what I'm saying, by all means, don't vote for me, I'm in this for the game itself, not for the few rich in their fancy circlejerk club.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:20:00 -
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Kane figured out a way to pick locks, giving PC players content during times where everyone thought PC would die out and battles would stop behind locked doors. You ran. Why should I vote for you?
When did I ever bring up NPE? If I wanted to know your stance on that I could just read the other threads. Stay on topic, please. This is showing you might also have a bad case of ADD. Another trait I wouldn't want in my CPM.
So I will ask, again, why should I, a PC player, vote for you? Because you'll take away my ISK and care more about new players??? "For the growth of the game, you'll care about the new guys."
Feed me that line, more. There are many spots on CPM - not all of them need to focus solely on NPE. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1185
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:23:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:
Kane figured out a way to pick locks, giving PC players content during times where everyone thought PC would die out and battles would stop behind locked doors. You ran. Why should I vote for you?
When did I ever bring up NPE? If I wanted to know your stance on that I could just read the other threads. Stay on topic, please. This is showing you might also have a bad case of ADD. Another trait I wouldn't want in my CPM.
So I will ask, again, why should I, a PC player, vote for you? Because you'll take away my ISK and care more about new players??? "For the growth of the game, you'll care about the new guys."
Feed me that line, more. There are many spots on CPM - not all of them need to focus solely on NPE.
None of them should focus on the people who purposelly **** the game up.
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Canari Elphus
Dirt Nap Squad.
1405
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:25:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem.
Sota - Do you actually care about the CPM or is this just another troll thread since the War Room is boring right now? Aside from me, I know that Appia is running as well as Radar (thought not sure if he meets he requirements posted by CCP)
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NobIesse Oblige
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
210
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:26:00 -
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Kane was not the first to figure out how to pick locks...nor did he make his methods publicly known how to do it for 'content' purposes. Go home Sota, you're drunk. |
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:26:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:
Kane figured out a way to pick locks, giving PC players content during times where everyone thought PC would die out and battles would stop behind locked doors. You ran. Why should I vote for you?
When did I ever bring up NPE? If I wanted to know your stance on that I could just read the other threads. Stay on topic, please. This is showing you might also have a bad case of ADD. Another trait I wouldn't want in my CPM.
So I will ask, again, why should I, a PC player, vote for you? Because you'll take away my ISK and care more about new players??? "For the growth of the game, you'll care about the new guys."
Feed me that line, more. There are many spots on CPM - not all of them need to focus solely on NPE.
None of them should focus on the people who purposelly **** the game up.
By playing the game - they're ******* it up???? Excuse me, the game mode is called PLANETARY CONQUEST.
Read this and reconsider your stance. You only have yourselves to blame for PC's state. |
NobIesse Oblige
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
210
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:27:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:
Sota - Do you actually care about the CPM or is this just another troll thread since the War Room is boring right now? Aside from me, I know that Appia is running as well as Radar (thought not sure if he meets he requirements posted by CCP)
Radar will not be running. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1185
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:29:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:
Kane figured out a way to pick locks, giving PC players content during times where everyone thought PC would die out and battles would stop behind locked doors. You ran. Why should I vote for you?
When did I ever bring up NPE? If I wanted to know your stance on that I could just read the other threads. Stay on topic, please. This is showing you might also have a bad case of ADD. Another trait I wouldn't want in my CPM.
So I will ask, again, why should I, a PC player, vote for you? Because you'll take away my ISK and care more about new players??? "For the growth of the game, you'll care about the new guys."
Feed me that line, more. There are many spots on CPM - not all of them need to focus solely on NPE.
None of them should focus on the people who purposelly **** the game up. By playing the game - they're ******* it up???? Excuse me, the game mode is called PLANETARY CONQUEST. Read this and reconsider your stance. You only have yourselves to blame for PC's state.
Its not only PC they play.
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The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion
League of Infamy
1096
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:29:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem.
I'll challenge a couple of your premises here.
As a candidate I have had experience in PC from the time it opened, till even now, fighting alongside my brethren within League of Infamy. The Southern Legion has been a in and out fixture in Planetary Conquest since the beginning. Yet we are not a devoted PC corporation that you say people who care naturally gravitate toward. Sure, we love to delve into all aspects of it, but we care... about the community.
The Southern Legion was BUILT on community over game domination, yet I still have well more that 5 - 10 PC matches under my belt.
I care about the game, and I know PC. But PC is not the be all and end all of the game. In the end, it's the community that gives any game it's longevity. The community is what the CPM represents, and while many PC Veterans will vote for the candidates with the most PC experience, most also recognize that without new blood, DUST will get boring, thus New Player Experience, Player Retention, and Community are higher in the pecking order at this stage of the game.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:32:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. Sota - Do you actually care about the CPM or is this just another troll thread since the War Room is boring right now? Aside from me, I know that Appia is running as well as Radar (thought not sure if he meets he requirements posted by CCP)
I had planned to run myself and take it seriously, but I can't be bothered to care enough to put that much involvement into this anymore.
But, since I can't, I want someone who can. It's really that simple. If this was a troll thread the OP would of hinted at it.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:39:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:
Kane figured out a way to pick locks, giving PC players content during times where everyone thought PC would die out and battles would stop behind locked doors. You ran. Why should I vote for you?
When did I ever bring up NPE? If I wanted to know your stance on that I could just read the other threads. Stay on topic, please. This is showing you might also have a bad case of ADD. Another trait I wouldn't want in my CPM.
So I will ask, again, why should I, a PC player, vote for you? Because you'll take away my ISK and care more about new players??? "For the growth of the game, you'll care about the new guys."
Feed me that line, more. There are many spots on CPM - not all of them need to focus solely on NPE.
None of them should focus on the people who purposelly **** the game up. By playing the game - they're ******* it up???? Excuse me, the game mode is called PLANETARY CONQUEST. Read this and reconsider your stance. You only have yourselves to blame for PC's state. Its not only PC they play.
Leave this thread, you're failed here. I will continue this discussion with people who understand what a topic is and keeps to it. You have likely earned my negative-endorsement, congratulations. I now have a thread to link when people ask me, "Why not him?" "Because he can't even stay on subject, what's he going to tell CCP when we're not looking???"
@Blackjacks - I actually remember your old CPM thread, and you were called out in your lack of participation in the community. Now, my concern is participation in PC - I know you have some, but what are your goals currently with it? It's not important to me that CPM is in a successful PC corp - more so then just being involved. |
Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
721
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:40:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:
This is unacceptable response from a CPM candidate. You gave up. Did Kane give up?
Actually, he did gave up for quite some time. When EON was at its peak.
I agree with you in one thing, I don't see myself voting most of the current candidates. |
Canari Elphus
Dirt Nap Squad.
1405
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:43:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. Sota - Do you actually care about the CPM or is this just another troll thread since the War Room is boring right now? Aside from me, I know that Appia is running as well as Radar (thought not sure if he meets he requirements posted by CCP) I had planned to run myself and take it seriously, but I can't be bothered to care enough to put that much involvement into this anymore. But, since I can't, I want someone who can. It's really that simple. If this was a troll thread the OP would of hinted at it.
What are your requirements for a PC vet CPM candidate then?
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1185
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:44:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:
Kane figured out a way to pick locks, giving PC players content during times where everyone thought PC would die out and battles would stop behind locked doors. You ran. Why should I vote for you?
When did I ever bring up NPE? If I wanted to know your stance on that I could just read the other threads. Stay on topic, please. This is showing you might also have a bad case of ADD. Another trait I wouldn't want in my CPM.
So I will ask, again, why should I, a PC player, vote for you? Because you'll take away my ISK and care more about new players??? "For the growth of the game, you'll care about the new guys."
Feed me that line, more. There are many spots on CPM - not all of them need to focus solely on NPE.
None of them should focus on the people who purposelly **** the game up. By playing the game - they're ******* it up???? Excuse me, the game mode is called PLANETARY CONQUEST. Read this and reconsider your stance. You only have yourselves to blame for PC's state. Its not only PC they play. Leave this thread, you're failed here. I will continue this discussion with people who understand what a topic is and keeps to it. You have likely earned my negative-endorsement, congratulations. I now have a thread to link when people ask me, "Why not him?" "Because he can't even stay on subject, what's he going to tell CCP when we're not looking???" @Blackjacks - I actually remember your old CPM thread, and you were called out in your lack of participation in the community. Now, my concern is participation in PC - I know you have some, but what are your goals currently with it? It's not important to me that CPM is in a successful PC corp - more so then just being involved.
Oh my, SoTa, a forumite who thinks too highly of himself and can't seem to keep a character unbanned, doesn't like poor old me? Whatever shall I do!
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:46:00 -
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Flyingconejo wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:
This is unacceptable response from a CPM candidate. You gave up. Did Kane give up?
Actually, he did gave up for quite some time. When EON was at its peak.
Kane took a break with NF falling a part and even during that break he PC'd often as a forge gunner. Second string or not - he was still involved.
I shouldn't of brought up Kane in this thread - he's just the only current CPM who I would even vote for, and barely at that. He has plenty of his own flaws too when it comes to the approach of this game. But he's not running for CPM1 - so that's not a concern.
And do not consider this my only approach to how I am voting for CPM - this is just my current question. NPE is very important to me too, and I'm sure the guy I'm disliking right now is a strong candidate for that side, and hopefully he gets elected and improves it.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:52:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:
Oh my, SoTa, a forumite who thinks too highly of himself and can't seem to keep a character unbanned, doesn't like poor old me? Whatever shall I do!
I am simply asking a troll whose derailing my thread to leave. Keep your personal accusation of my character to the sections of the forums where such comments are appropriate. This is a CPM discussion area, and your comments aren't appreciated.
Now, again, please leave. I'm sure your a strong candidate for others, just not for me. Good luck improving NPE - it really needs it. It's just not this topics subject. |
PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:59:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. Sota - Do you actually care about the CPM or is this just another troll thread since the War Room is boring right now? Aside from me, I know that Appia is running as well as Radar (thought not sure if he meets he requirements posted by CCP) I had planned to run myself and take it seriously, but I can't be bothered to care enough to put that much involvement into this anymore. But, since I can't, I want someone who can. It's really that simple. If this was a troll thread the OP would of hinted at it. What are your requirements for a PC vet CPM candidate then?
Don't actually care for 'vet' status - just be active in PC and it's doings.
It's not like I expect EVERY CPM member to have PC experience - it just seems ... most don't even try. Current CPM is a joke, and I'm looking forward to the fresh new batch to work with, and I'm hoping they have something more to say to me other then, "It worked in pubs...." |
Canari Elphus
Dirt Nap Squad.
1405
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:08:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. Sota - Do you actually care about the CPM or is this just another troll thread since the War Room is boring right now? Aside from me, I know that Appia is running as well as Radar (thought not sure if he meets he requirements posted by CCP) I had planned to run myself and take it seriously, but I can't be bothered to care enough to put that much involvement into this anymore. But, since I can't, I want someone who can. It's really that simple. If this was a troll thread the OP would of hinted at it. What are your requirements for a PC vet CPM candidate then? Don't actually care for 'vet' status - just be active in PC and it's doings. It's not like I expect EVERY CPM member to have PC experience - it just seems ... most don't even try. Current CPM is a joke, and I'm looking forward to the fresh new batch to work with, and I'm hoping they have something more to say to me other then, "It worked in pubs...."
Then Im a little confused as to why you think that there are no candidates that can represent PC players. While I might have my differences with Appia in the game, she knows a ton about it and how mechanics are different between pubs and PC battles. Personally, I have been involved with PC since its release with PHI at first and now with AE. Not only have I seen PC from the ground on numerous occasions but also its interaction with EVE as a pilot.
Canari Elphus for CPM1
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:12:00 -
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Appia I just plain don't trust. She claimed loyalty to AE then back stabbed it the instant it made a move she didn't like - that's not a person I will accept representing me. It is a concern that whoever is elected will shape things there way, and she's shown that it's her way - or the high way. Regardless of how she shows herself off as CPM candidate - actions speak louder then words.
And, to be frank, I must of missed over your CPM candidacy, do you have a link? I'd like to go over it. You seem like an interesting choice, much like Radar.
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The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion
League of Infamy
1096
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:13:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:
@Blackjacks - I actually remember your old CPM thread, and you were called out in your lack of participation in the community. Now, my concern is participation in PC - I know you have some, but what are your goals currently with it? It's not important to me that CPM is in a successful PC corp - more so then just being involved.
I was actually quite active in the community prior to the CPM0 Selection, but that is not a topic for here, as you yourself have pointed out.
As it stands, I participate in Planetary Conquest. I join forces with many people, generally as a Tanker since that is my primary skill set.
My 'goals' with accord to Planetary Conquest. CPM wise, they are laid out multiple times in my CPM thread, my Feedback Threads, I want PC to be much more... well, just more...
But with regards as to my, or League of Infamy's 'goals' in PC, you'd have to ask the leadership. I stepped down as CEO of The Southern Legion to run for CPM.
Once you go Black, you just never go back!
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:14:00 -
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While I appreciate that there might not be a candidate that you feel doesn't speak for you, I must say that the view you've expressed already, seems incredibly myopic and singular to say the least.
PC, while certainly important is not the be all and end all of the game for many players. It may be the ultimate destination for some of the hardcore but to cater simply to them at the exclusion of all others participating in Pub Matches and Faction Warfare, both casually and more seriously, will not service the community as a whole.
My own leanings as areas to iterate and expand on are the NPE and corp/UI mechanics. But that doesn't mean I'm not interested in how PC or Faction Warfare can be improved. Far from it. My belief is that better UI and corp mechanics will make it better and easier to play the game, no matter what the specialisation that a corp might wish to do.
As to a candidate pushing a single agenda at the expense of others, historically that hasn't worked in the CSM as those members have found themselves marginalised both by their fellow members and CCP.
Successful Candidates must instead take an holistic approach to serving in a advocacy such as the CPM, taking on board the views and wishes of all the community.
Now, I can't explain why exactly there aren't any candidates that have as much zeal as you do for PC, I can only present my musings about it. PC was a rushed and ill considered concept, propelled into a game not ready for it, as an attempt to beef up a rather anaemic and lacklustre launch build.
It has presented many problems that have impacted negatively to the game not least of which is the massive amounts of passively generated ISK and the Proto Stomping it bankrolls. It needs a huge amount of reworking done to it to make it fit for purpose. We've heard a lot about PC 2.0 but heard nothing about what it is, what it does and how it works. I suspect that you've not yet had a PC orientated candidate yet is because those considering standing, want to see what PC 2.0 is and even if it exists still.
The answers to those questions will likely be arriving in three weeks, along with the details of the CPM election timetable.
Once the community knows of the plans for PC that CCP has (or even if it still has a future, I'm not ruling anything out), then I think that the candidates you seek will let themselves be known.
CPM1 Candidate
CEO of DUST University
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Appia Nappia
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:19:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(
Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?
It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.
CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem. Where's my experience in PC you ask? How about when NG/PI held 16% of molden heath and we didn't discrict lock. Yes, I was in NG/PI. For the whole of what length? Your PC career, from the sounds of it, is based on the past. You're not currently involved. How do you represent me? I should of added that being a part of a PC corps logistics is honestly enough, and that having a past record in PC isn't unless lengthy. You'd at least have some understanding of how truly low TTK is, as well as the many woes of map design and how changes to stats makes big impacts, or none at all, such as the increase to uplink spawn time. I know it's hard for current candidates to do anything to fix PC experience with DNS's hands on everyones balls - but didn't that occur because the community is unhealthy due to lack of leaders stepping up? What makes you a good enough leader to step up for a community when you can't step up to PC? Yes it was in the past, I was in PC from the start or EoN till disctric locking occurred. The reason I'm not in it any longer is the carebear bullshit that happened and the lack of interest given because of it. PC in its current form needs scrapped and in my opinion discrict lockers need to have their 'hard earned ISK' removed. They are one of the main problems with this game, npe and general experience of the player base. This is unacceptable response from a CPM candidate. You gave up. Did Kane give up? District locking was bad, sure, but there was a method in which to pick that lock. Check the history of districts being flipped - during the times of locked many were being flipped by NF. So I do not find any excuse of care bear acceptable to the abandonment of PC. That is simply people accepting a bad system for what it is and hoping for someone else to fix it. That is not what I want in a CPM.
How about this, SoTa. I've been doing PC from May 2013 to April 2014
My corp history is pretty well known and can be seen by anyone with an EVE-character.
But this? "So I do not find any excuse of care bear acceptable to the abandonment of PC. "
Who was it that blue'd up with the only competition? Oh, right, you did.
Who was it that removed heir EVE character from corp and publicly announced the RA/N-F deal before anyone had a chance to make it sound pretty? (then got Infantry forcibly removed)
The only 16 person team that could reliably field a competitive team, and even the corps that had regularly used ringers, have been absorbed into a single Alliance. Those that left PC early can have objections to the terrible lag-which is now present in everyone's public contracts- or the simple idea that a small corp can dominate the game and the only counter to them is to wait until they get bored or switch systems or buy a new game so their numbers dwindle.
Only you've all protected yourself from the dwindling numbers problem by huddling up.
Please, Mr Pop SoTa, explain how that is not being a carebear and protecting yourself from anyone that could challenge you?
Instead of the people that left the ****** system before the preeminent carebear example alliance took hold. Are you saying you'll vote for anyone in a corp that was removed from PC or is it you just won't vote for anyone outside DNS?
Secretly Appia Vibbia
If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:26:00 -
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The Black Jackal wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:
@Blackjacks - I actually remember your old CPM thread, and you were called out in your lack of participation in the community. Now, my concern is participation in PC - I know you have some, but what are your goals currently with it? It's not important to me that CPM is in a successful PC corp - more so then just being involved.
I was actually quite active in the community prior to the CPM0 Selection, but that is not a topic for here, as you yourself have pointed out. As it stands, I participate in Planetary Conquest. I join forces with many people, generally as a Tanker since that is my primary skill set. My 'goals' with accord to Planetary Conquest. CPM wise, they are laid out multiple times in my CPM thread, my Feedback Threads, I want PC to be much more... well, just more... But with regards as to my, or League of Infamy's 'goals' in PC, you'd have to ask the leadership. I stepped down as CEO of The Southern Legion to run for CPM.
I remember what you said in your other threads, I'll keep that in mind. +1 for the responses. I'll keep it in mind that BJ is more well rounded in his approach to the community then I originally thought. You're not active in War Room or any meta discussions, but I know your corp is active, which means your involvement is too. That's what I'm looking for right now.
@ Kevall: Interesting. I like the angel in which you approached my subject. But NPE is not being ruined by a few hundreds guy with ISK - it's being ruined because of game mechanics throwing us all together. Regardless of what actions CCP takes to 'fix' PC - the 1% will stay the 1%. it's too late to fix this part of the game, the ISK is already in our pockets. Keeping others from farming it also isn't the only answer - the passive ISK was put there in the first place as a way to fill wallets and give corps a reason to enter PC. If you take that away - you will likely kill PC and anyone wanting to getting involved for any reason outside of helping EvE guys. Much like how FW is today. Which, no one I know is currently happy with as loyalty points are worth jack.
But my concern is that of a PC player looking for representation. You seem like a good candidate for majority of players. Just not for me.
Also, I've stated this already but to clarify: This is not the only subject I am making my vote decision with. This is just my current concern. But it will be a kill zone point for me. |
PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:32:00 -
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Appia Nappia wrote:
How about this, SoTa. I've been doing PC from May 2013 to April 2014
My corp history is pretty well known and can be seen by anyone with an EVE-character.
But this? "So I do not find any excuse of care bear acceptable to the abandonment of PC. "
Who was it that blue'd up with the only competition? Oh, right, you did.
Who was it that removed heir EVE character from corp and publicly announced the RA/N-F deal before anyone had a chance to make it sound pretty? (then got Infantry forcibly removed)
The only 16 person team that could reliably field a competitive team, and even the corps that had regularly used ringers, have been absorbed into a single Alliance. Those that left PC early can have objections to the terrible lag-which is now present in everyone's public contracts- or the simple idea that a small corp can dominate the game and the only counter to them is to wait until they get bored or switch systems or buy a new game so their numbers dwindle.
Only you've all protected yourself from the dwindling numbers problem by huddling up.
Please, Mr Pop SoTa, explain how that is not being a carebear and protecting yourself from anyone that could challenge you?
Instead of the people that left the ****** system before the preeminent carebear example alliance took hold. Are you saying you'll vote for anyone in a corp that was removed from PC or is it you just won't vote for anyone outside DNS?
PoP SoTa wrote:Appia I just plain don't trust. She claimed loyalty to AE then back stabbed it the instant it made a move she didn't like - that's not a person I will accept representing me. It is a concern that whoever is elected will shape things there way, and she's shown that it's her way - or the high way. Regardless of how she shows herself off as CPM candidate - actions speak louder then words.
I hate to point this out to a candidate, because of how stupid it makes you look, but I am not currently running for CPM. So why are you grilling me on this? It's both irrelevant to this conversation, and trolling. If you continue to derail my thread I will report you for trolling and harassment.
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
2561
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:41:00 -
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I'd (Assuming 7votes) vote the following way if you're concerned with PC first
No. 1 Radar R4D-47 PC since beginning, "Competitive/Tryhard" level, Has understanding of PC and Politics and shiznit
No. 2 Canari Elphus PC since beginning on "Competitive/Tryhard" level experience with PC from EVE and DUST sides
No. 3 The Black Jackal PC since beginning, Competitive level EVE and DUST Experience
No. 4 Appia Vibbia, PC since beginning, Competitive level
No. 5 Soraya Xel PC since beginning, Competitive level
No. 6 Pokey Dravon PC at beginning can easily contact PC players who are on a "Competitive/Tryhard" level
No. 7Anyone of your choice
Competitive = Mid Tier
"Competitive/Tryhard" = High Tier
Take Personal Feelings into account though and call a spade a spade
How to Leave PC
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