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Killar-12
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:41:00 -
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I'd (Assuming 7votes) vote the following way if you're concerned with PC first No. 1 Radar R4D-47 PC since beginning, "Competitive/Tryhard" level, Has understanding of PC and Politics and shiznit No. 2 Canari Elphus PC since beginning on "Competitive/Tryhard" level experience with PC from EVE and DUST sides No. 3 The Black Jackal PC since beginning, Competitive level EVE and DUST Experience No. 4 Appia Vibbia, PC since beginning, Competitive level No. 5 Soraya Xel PC since beginning, Competitive level No. 6 Pokey Dravon PC at beginning can easily contact PC players who are on a "Competitive/Tryhard" level No. 7Anyone of your choice
Competitive = Mid Tier "Competitive/Tryhard" = High Tier Take Personal Feelings into account though and call a spade a spade
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Killar-12
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:48:00 -
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NobIesse Oblige wrote:Radar isn't running. Damnit, I was going off of what Fox said
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Killar-12
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:59:00 -
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NobIesse Oblige wrote:Radar isn't running. And Appia has WAAAAAAAAAY more experience in PC than Canari.
I haven't seen Canari in a PC for AE except maybe once. I leave it to AE to tell you how many of their PC's as a percentage contained my name on the opposing side.
I've seen him connected from Eve, but it's a rare occurrence to see him in PC's...at least any in the last 4 months. I say this because I've been playing AE extensively in the past 4 months ringing for everyone AE attacked as well as my own attacks and defenses.
Out of well over 250+ battles in the past few months I've maybe seen him a total of 2-5 times.
Appia appeared in PC over and over for and against AE in comparison.
Also, my main Zatara Rought will be posting my intention to run publicly within the next week or so.
I've played a few PC's in my day, including with Sota.
List Adjustment in progress again
Until Announcement it's not getting added
Also a note on the list that in no way shows how well rounded the candidates will be, Vets aren't going to keep it alive a good NPE will... PC needs fixes, but it won't save the game. vets WILL leave might as well focus on the people who are coming
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Killar-12
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Posted - 2014.04.09 13:20:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:Radar isn't running. And Appia has WAAAAAAAAAY more experience in PC than Canari.
I haven't seen Canari in a PC for AE except maybe once. I leave it to AE to tell you how many of their PC's as a percentage contained my name on the opposing side.
I've seen him connected from Eve, but it's a rare occurrence to see him in PC's...at least any in the last 4 months. I say this because I've been playing AE extensively in the past 4 months ringing for everyone AE attacked as well as my own attacks and defenses.
Out of well over 250+ battles in the past few months I've maybe seen him a total of 2-5 times.
Appia appeared in PC over and over for and against AE in comparison. She's participated as a-team for TP, MHPD, AE, and more. Canari was never on the radar. Madmatt and a few others have been , but unless there's an alt i'm unaware of Canari has never been a regular participant and contributed in the category as Appia.
Eve side I've been aware of him, but never dust side in the tiny bit of experience I've had.
Also, my main Zatara Rought will be posting my intention to run publicly within the next week or so.
I've played a few PC's in my day, including with Sota. Zatara - like you, I have alts as well. I spent a lot of the war in space since it became obvious that EVE OBs were playing a larger and larger role in determining matches with the adjustment OB timers to allow for the initial drop at OB. AE had plenty of ground troops but a lack of pilots so I went where I was needed. I hardly say that it disqualifies me from understanding PC, how it impacts the game or being an advocate for its players in the CPM. That also doesnt take into account my real world qualifications. That list was just a PC only list, I'll release a full list soon but I want to see if anyone else announces
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Killar-12
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:42:00 -
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NobIesse Oblige wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:
Zatara - like you, I have alts as well. I spent a lot of the war in space since it became obvious that EVE OBs were playing a larger and larger role in determining matches with the adjustment OB timers to allow for the initial drop at OB. AE had plenty of ground troops but a lack of pilots so I went where I was needed. I hardly say that it disqualifies me from understanding PC, how it impacts the game or being an advocate for its players in the CPM. That also doesnt take into account my real world qualifications.
I am not commenting on your ability to understand PC nor that your lack of experience in comparison to Appia "disqualifies me from understanding PC, how it impacts the game or being an advocate for its players in the CPM." No doubt your willingness to drop eve ob's serves as evidence of your dedication to the game(s). As Killar suggested, I had to call a spade a spade. I have no personal vendetta against you, Killar's list was simply a little flawed in my estimation and I expressed it. I'm not sure when you joined AE after pro hic's collective exit, but you weren't a regular in AE's matches to my knowledge pre 1.7 either. MHPD matches, the tourney, any of it. I will say this, if I'm looking out of candidates you're really going to have to sell me to get me off my current list and add you in one of the last 2 slots open to change
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Posted - 2014.04.09 20:56:00 -
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NobIesse Oblige wrote:Killar-12 wrote: I will say this, if I'm looking out of candidates you're really going to have to sell me to get me off my current list and add you in one of the last 2 slots open to change
I'll...probably look for others that comprise the low hanging fruit to convince when it seems others have found favor with you already. I think that PC experience is important and 4 out of my 7 are on the list are in I've got it locked and due to it being an IRL position I'm going to look at IRL Qualifications too, I haven't seen yours If I'm impressed I'll add, I see 4 solidly based on IRL and In-game stuff, 1 is getting by with a bit less that the standard of what I consider for In-Game stuff and 2 others are solely based on In-Game stuff therefore very shakey at best if you've got both I generally say sure, but here's what I'm looking for
Reps with EVE Experience (Most Candidates) Reps with PC Experience (Read the list) Reps with FW Experience (Aero and Ctarl) Reps with NPE/Training Experience (Kevall, and most of the CEOs to a lesser degree)
Reps with IRL Marketing Experience (Canari, Yokal, I think one or two others) Reps with IRL Game Design Experience (Soraya, a few others) Reps with Project Management Experience (A few, I've had to talk to the candidates to get this info)
Reps with Ideas and who speak up with them (Most candidates) Reps who can take abuse from others/the Community (Most Candidates) Reps with connections to Current and Former CSM (Canari+DNSBlack(Possible), Soraya and the two surefire CFC reps)
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Posted - 2014.05.02 06:09:00 -
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Cubs Secretary wrote:from the desk of Cubs:
the problem right now with this CPM 'candidacy' and whatnot is twofold.
FIRST, there have been no words officially on WHEN this may happen, just that it will.. so damn near all of you have jumped the gun in announcing you are running etc etc.
SECOND, the vast majority of the aforementioned premature declarers have far from rounded resumes. Yes some have made great efforts within the community over time, while others have done less than nothing, while others yet are only trying to ride the coattails of popularity.
The CPM is a position that cannot be taken lightly. This is our DIRECT link to the 'brain trust' (lulz) that is CCP and helping them at least LOOK in the right direction, taking feedback from the community and funneling that into some random coherent thoughts.
this in and of itself requires an immense amount of patience, thus logistically disqualifying most current candidates before reading or hearing a single thing about them. Next they have to deal with a very difficult group of people in actually getting anything done...
The good news is, a SINGLE change over the course of a CPM's 'office' could just be massive, cause things are done so quickly around here you could easily be remembered for that.
I have seen 2, yes, 2 players that have announced their candidacy at this point that I think would be well suited for a CPM position.
2....
Respect is earned people, and knowledge and outreach to the community are what gives you that. being 'good' at this game should mean absolutely nothing in regard to CPM. the ability to listen, knowledge of game mechanics (case in point.. Kane listening to those of us that play PC daily and all the broken mechanics it entails, makes him knowledgeable on the topic)
not to mention a different approach to things to actually stress and get important information to CCP in a way they might actually listen and act (good luck there).
I wish you all the best of luck, but rest assured the Bull$hit flag shall be raised come the time it becomes necessary. Lots of posers currently, and even fewer viable candidates. Those that are well suited, Im sure know who they are, and also rest assured I make no such statements in support or against anyone. Just a general observation.
ok continue with the ass kissing
-----------------------------------end transmission------------------------------------------- It's also an IRL postion honestly I'd rather elect a competent game designer with experience or someone with HR and Marketing Experience rather than a PC player...
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