Radar isn't running.

Radar isn't running. And Appia has WAAAAAAAAAY more experience in PC than Canari.

I haven't seen Canari in a PC for AE except maybe once. I leave it to AE to tell you how many of their PC's as a percentage contained my name on the opposing side.

I've seen him connected from Eve, but it's a rare occurrence to see him in PC's...at least any in the last 4 months. I say this because I've been playing AE extensively in the past 4 months ringing for everyone AE attacked as well as my own attacks and defenses.

Out of well over 250+ battles in the past few months I've maybe seen him a total of 2-5 times.

Appia appeared in PC over and over for and against AE in comparison.

Also, my main Zatara Rought will be posting my intention to run publicly within the next week or so.

I've played a few PC's in my day, including with Sota.

Appia I just plain don't trust. She claimed loyalty to AE then back stabbed it the instant it made a move she didn't like - that's not a person I will accept representing me. It is a concern that whoever is elected will shape things there way, and she's shown that it's her way - or the high way. Regardless of how she shows herself off as CPM candidate - actions speak louder then words.

And, to be frank, I must of missed over your CPM candidacy, do you have a link? I'd like to go over it. You seem like an interesting choice, much like Radar.

Radar isn't running. And Appia has WAAAAAAAAAY more experience in PC than Canari.

I haven't seen Canari in a PC for AE except maybe once. I leave it to AE to tell you how many of their PC's as a percentage contained my name on the opposing side.

I've seen him connected from Eve, but it's a rare occurrence to see him in PC's...at least any in the last 4 months. I say this because I've been playing AE extensively in the past 4 months ringing for everyone AE attacked as well as my own attacks and defenses.

Out of well over 250+ battles in the past few months I've maybe seen him a total of 2-5 times.

Appia appeared in PC over and over for and against AE in comparison. She's participated as a-team for TP, MHPD, AE, and more. Canari was never on the radar. Madmatt and a few others have been , but unless there's an alt i'm unaware of Canari has never been a regular participant and contributed in the category as Appia.

Eve side I've been aware of him, but never dust side in the tiny bit of experience I've had.

Also, my main Zatara Rought will be posting my intention to run publicly within the next week or so.

I've played a few PC's in my day, including with Sota.

Zatara - like you, I have alts as well. I spent a lot of the war in space since it became obvious that EVE OBs were playing a larger and larger role in determining matches with the adjustment OB timers to allow for the initial drop at OB. AE had plenty of ground troops but a lack of pilots so I went where I was needed. I hardly say that it disqualifies me from understanding PC, how it impacts the game or being an advocate for its players in the CPM. That also doesnt take into account my real world qualifications.

If she can separate her game persona from her CPM one then I have no problem with her candidacy.

As far as my views. You can see my general points in the link in my sig. However, it is for general players as I have not gotten many questions from PC players as f yet.

For PC
- CCP needs to focus on game stability as far as lag and frames-per-second
- Introduction of Skirmish 3.0 to make PC something more than a competitive pub match
- Faster fixes for exploits/glitches

CCP has always said that PC matches represent the ultimate form of combat and a good example to use for balancing weapons and equipment and yet it take months for them to make adjustments that have a positive impact on PC matches. If PC is going to be their halo gamemode then they need to treat it as such.

Aside from that, it would be nice to have some vanity points in PC such as corp logos on flags around the district. Things that give a feel of immersion and that you are defending 'your turf'.

Zatara - like you, I have alts as well. I spent a lot of the war in space since it became obvious that EVE OBs were playing a larger and larger role in determining matches with the adjustment OB timers to allow for the initial drop at OB. AE had plenty of ground troops but a lack of pilots so I went where I was needed. I hardly say that it disqualifies me from understanding PC, how it impacts the game or being an advocate for its players in the CPM. That also doesnt take into account my real world qualifications.

I am not commenting on your ability to understand PC nor that your lack of experience in comparison to Appia "disqualifies me from understanding PC, how it impacts the game or being an advocate for its players in the CPM."

No doubt your willingness to drop eve ob's serves as evidence of your dedication to the game(s).

As Killar suggested, I had to call a spade a spade.

I have no personal vendetta against you, Killar's list was simply a little flawed in my estimation and I expressed it. I'm not sure when you joined AE after pro hic's collective exit, but you weren't a regular in AE's matches to my knowledge pre 1.7 either. MHPD matches, the tourney, any of it.

I will say this, if I'm looking out of candidates you're really going to have to sell me to get me off my current list and add you in one of the last 2 slots open to change

I've been monitoring the thread for bit and this is my first opportunity to post so forgive me for being late to the discussion.

@SoTa... I appreciate your passion and they way you quite directly attack the issues or questions you are posing to the group. That said, i'm struggling to find out what exactly is that type of candidate you are looking for. You are pretty clear on what you don't want or what doesn't interest you but can you list the qualifications or experince level that you are looking for? What facet of PC most concerns you and that you don't think can be properly addressed by many of the candidates?

I've looked into all the current candidates, played with most of them, and done some basic forum research and I don't think any of them don't want PC to be what it was billed as...the persistent, meaningful aspect of Dust that gives high level game play and attracts people to Dust and New Eden. Look at some of their work and see if it's something you can get behind. Example would be Pokey Dravon's PC 2.0 concept.

I'm not trying to derail or disrupt your line of questioning...simply trying to understand more about the context of your statements. That might generate some more informed answers to you.

To be clear, I'm obviously not a CPM candidate, however, I am someone that is working to raise awareness of the CPM, it's actions, and inform the community about the election and candidates. Liked or hated, you are a well known personality in the Dust community and no once questions your desire for the game to be sucessfull in the long term...you just have a thorny way of showing it sometimes. For the record, you would clearly be the sensei i would seek out to learn Troll-Fu from if I every decided to go to the dark side.

I'll...probably look for others that comprise the low hanging fruit to convince when it seems others have found favor with you already.

The game needs candidates who can range from NPE all the way through PC. And the range of candidates we have definitely covers that scope. Personally, I've been in roughly one to two PC matches a week with my alliance for the whole year, ending only with DNS' takeover of PFC. (My alliance has done a lot more, but I try not to lock out other players from getting a spot.) Our alliance has owned and defended territory on Altbrard, Hrober, and Oddelulf.

Thank you for this post. I'm glad too see someone is raising awareness about the candidates, it's one of the reasons I decided to make my presence and interest on this matter finally known, so that I may speak of the candidates with certainty and help guide people to there proper choice. It's a nice hot topic in game, especially in DNS. But I'd also like to find my very own representative.

As for 'qualifications' I lowered them half way through first page, honestly. Asking for a PC active CPM - might be idealistic. It's enough that they're simply involved in a PC corp and it's doing on the PC level - at least have some 1v1 experience with the mechanics your helping fix and show some initiative to getting things done.

I just, really need to know there's at least one CPM like Kane who focuses on PC more then NPE - there's plenty of slots for people who care about NPE to get chosen in - but PC needs a proper representation too from a guy who understands our woes, the problems, and the bugs isolated to the PC experience.

Fair points, SoTa.

I think all but Kevall (who I think is very solid candidate for CPM) have a very solid backgrounds in PC competition and many still play periodically in PC. The practical answer is that there just aren't that many folks invovled in PC any more - which is a huge shame. If they are a member of a Corp or Alliance that isn't active in PC (for any number of reasons) it's pretty tough for them to be ringing and deploying regularly while being in a leadership position. The thing that you might be overlooking is that many of the candidates truly want PC to work and make it competitive. The mechanics now have snowballed baseline issues to the point where many corps and players can't even get on to the field.

You do have a good point about where the focus of the candidate is. I think its a great idea that we have one or two candidates with a deep understanding of PC and they have to be able to relate PC to the rest of the fabric of the game and help CCP understand how to synchronize those facets so the gamemodes themselves don't become imbalanced.

I think you're initial approach was taken as "none of the current candidates can support my subset of the community well enough so they don't belong to be CPMs". It appears that that's clearly not the case and you've pointed out several very viable candidates from the group running - I appreciate you engaging on this and keeping the discussion moving forward.

Damnit, I was going off of what Fox said , also Fixed tyvm

Fiddlestaxp, I agree an ISK reset is out of the question. You can't take away stuff after you defined the rules and given out rewards. CCP was wrong to set the rules as they did, but they can't do anything about that ISK now. However, I think they will make changes that make that ISK less of the incredible advantage it is now. To be honest.

Regarding a new player experience focused CPM, I think you have an obvious option of Kevall Longstride there, from DUST University. He sees more newbies come and go than anyone else. A lot of us are very concerned with NPE, but Kevall's got a lot of first-hand experience and knowledge in new player matters and concerns.

I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(

Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?

It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.

CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem.

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I want to know my vote will go to someone who knows what the hell they are talking about. not some blueberry scrub.

from the desk of Cubs:

the problem right now with this CPM 'candidacy' and whatnot is twofold.

FIRST, there have been no words officially on WHEN this may happen, just that it will.. so damn near all of you have jumped the gun in announcing you are running etc etc.

SECOND, the vast majority of the aforementioned premature declarers have far from rounded resumes. Yes some have made great efforts within the community over time, while others have done less than nothing, while others yet are only trying to ride the coattails of popularity.

The CPM is a position that cannot be taken lightly. This is our DIRECT link to the 'brain trust' (lulz) that is CCP and helping them at least LOOK in the right direction, taking feedback from the community and funneling that into some random coherent thoughts.

this in and of itself requires an immense amount of patience, thus logistically disqualifying most current candidates before reading or hearing a single thing about them. Next they have to deal with a very difficult group of people in actually getting anything done...

The good news is, a SINGLE change over the course of a CPM's 'office' could just be massive, cause things are done so quickly around here you could easily be remembered for that.

I have seen 2, yes, 2 players that have announced their candidacy at this point that I think would be well suited for a CPM position.

2....


Respect is earned people, and knowledge and outreach to the community are what gives you that. being 'good' at this game should mean absolutely nothing in regard to CPM. the ability to listen, knowledge of game mechanics (case in point.. Kane listening to those of us that play PC daily and all the broken mechanics it entails, makes him knowledgeable on the topic)

not to mention a different approach to things to actually stress and get important information to CCP in a way they might actually listen and act (good luck there).

I wish you all the best of luck, but rest assured the Bull$hit flag shall be raised come the time it becomes necessary. Lots of posers currently, and even fewer viable candidates. Those that are well suited, Im sure know who they are, and also rest assured I make no such statements in support or against anyone. Just a general observation.

ok continue with the ass kissing

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I don't like any of them. What should I do? Run myself? :'(

Where's the people whose passion in this game burn beyond words behind a screen? Where's the CPM PC experience? Do you really believe 5 or 10 matches gives you the authority to speak on behalf of PC players who pretty much dominate this game and possibly your vote outcome?

It's pretty evident that the only real voters will be people who care, and they usually tend to navigate eventually to a PC corp. So it's very likely PC players will decide the outcome of who gets elected. Though, it's also possible the masses just decide to care one day and vote for whoever they decide at random, I doubt they read these forums to get to know any of you.

CPM does not work because the people running for it do not represent us. I need a candidate that has been the boots on the ground and knows first had the experiences we speak of to CCP. Without that - you're unreliable. Your facts and figures are useless if put into practical play they fail. Flaylock pistol nerf handling and other moves made by CCP highlight this problem.