DUST Search - The Gentleman's Weapon, a guide to the Laser Rifle

John Demonsbane wrote:

2k2y wrote:

John Demonsbane wrote:

2k2y wrote:

John Demonsbane wrote:

I am much harder to offend than that, lol.

Okay so the preferred sidearm to use with the laer rifle is the submachine gun? I have been using the magsec smg lately and I am really liking it even more so than the smg. Have you tried it?

Briefly, I didn't like it. The spool up annoys me. I've been using the SMG since beta, so I'm comfortable with it and have it specced out pretty well. Really people should use what they are most comfortable with.

More specfically to your question though, my personal style, as you can see with my primary Commando setup, is to offset the weaknesses of my weapon pairings. The magsec is a longer range rail weapon, I don't need that paired up with the LR. If the target is outside 50-60m, they are getting one thing and one thing only: hot laz0r to the face.

The big problem for me (and likely not just me) when using the LR is when people get inside optimal range. That's where the SMG wins out, and as an armor-based weapon it also works well finishing off the people who lose their shields bum rushing me.

I do think the smg is much better than the magsec smg in cqc. I used to use the breach submachine gun because I am quite inaccurate with the normal submachine gun. I like the magsec smg because it is faster than the breach submachine gun but it is not as fast as the normal submachine gun. For me, the extra range is just a nice perk of the weapon.

I used the breach SMG for a while myself. It shares the same problems as most of the other breach weapons, the ROF is a little too slow and so the effective DPS is less than it should be.

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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3560	Posted - 2014.06.26 16:01:00 - [31] - Quote Oh well, the dream is over. No way I'm going to be beating the list of l33t Templar that are going for the naming rights of the officer LR. Maybe an AUR variant, Rattati? Plz? (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2483	Posted - 2014.06.27 23:00:00 - [32] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Oh well, the dream is over. No way I'm going to be beating the list of l33t Templar that are going for the naming rights of the officer LR. Maybe an AUR variant, Rattati? Plz? I feel the same, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try anyway Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3579	Posted - 2014.06.27 23:10:00 - [33] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Oh well, the dream is over. No way I'm going to be beating the list of l33t Templar that are going for the naming rights of the officer LR. Maybe an AUR variant, Rattati? Plz? I feel the same, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try anyway Don't worry about that, should you find yourself playing between the hours of 11pm-1am eastern US time you might just get your face melted by yours truly. But, being realistic here, purely in terms of the hours in the day I could possibly play I have no chance even if I were Alldin Kan or Regnyum. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2484	Posted - 2014.06.27 23:17:00 - [34] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Cross Atu wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Oh well, the dream is over. No way I'm going to be beating the list of l33t Templar that are going for the naming rights of the officer LR. Maybe an AUR variant, Rattati? Plz? I feel the same, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try anyway Don't worry about that, should you find yourself playing between the hours of 11pm-1am eastern US time you might just get your face melted by yours truly. But, being realistic here, purely in terms of the hours in the day I could possibly play I have no chance even if I were Alldin Kan or Regnyum. Hope to see you on the field, on either side , and yeah being realistic I'm not likely to get this done either for similar reasons. Even so I can have fun giving it a shot Good hunting o7 Cross Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3634	Posted - 2014.07.08 03:33:00 - [35] - Quote Been playing sparingly, mostly in Amarr FW. A lot of newer up and coming corps seem to have gotten into it, we are q-syncing like it's going out of style and steamrolling the matari like back in the day. A nice change! (and..... bump) (The godfather of tactical logistics)
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3830	Posted - 2014.07.29 00:17:00 - [36] - Quote Congratulations to Viktor for burning thousands of heretics on his way to winning the crown as the best LR user. Choose your name wisely, Viktor, and o7. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
2k2y Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2014.09.01 12:57:00 - [37] - Quote Isn't it better to run a normal nanohive on the amarr assault over the ones solely focused on healing hp? I usually run out of ammo when I am doing well. I have always wanted to use the nanohives which restore both armor and ammo but I see on protofits that it takes a lot of resources compared to the other variants. Do you think it would be a good idea to use such nanohive on an amarr assault suit?
Zindorak 1.U.P 765	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:25:00 - [38] - Quote That overheat damage needs to be nerfed as well as fitting costs Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3953	Posted - 2014.09.01 22:57:00 - [39] - Quote 2k2y wrote: Isn't it better to run a normal nanohive on the amarr assault over the ones solely focused on healing hp? I usually run out of ammo when I am doing good. I have always wanted to use the [advanced or prototype variants of the] nanohives which restore both armor and ammo but I see on protofits that it takes a lot of resources compared to the other variants. I have yet to level up the nanocircuitry skill to 5 but I will do so when I am able to. Do you think it would be a good idea to use such nanohives[like compact nanohives] on an amarr assault suit over the ones solely meant for ammo? Edit:I was mistaken, the compact nanohive restores armor and ammo. Though I might start using it more, I still think the highier tiered nanohives of the same type are much better overall as they have more nanites. Correct. I use dual ammo/armor hives on my Amarr assault suits. Unlike the ScR, for example, which is very efficient with ammo, the LR obviously is not considering you waste about 20% of it preheating (or more). (The godfather of tactical logistics)
2k2y Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2014.09.02 11:25:00 - [40] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: 2k2y wrote: Isn't it better to run a normal nanohive on the amarr assault over the ones solely focused on healing hp? I usually run out of ammo when I am doing good. I have always wanted to use the [advanced or prototype variants of the] nanohives which restore both armor and ammo but I see on protofits that it takes a lot of resources compared to the other variants. I have yet to level up the nanocircuitry skill to 5 but I will do so when I am able to. Do you think it would be a good idea to use such nanohives[like compact nanohives] on an amarr assault suit over the ones solely meant for ammo? Edit:I was mistaken, the compact nanohive restores armor and ammo. Though I might start using it more, I still think the highier tiered nanohives of the same type are much better overall as they have more nanites. Correct. I use dual ammo/armor hives on my Amarr assault suits. Unlike the ScR, for example, which is very efficient with ammo, the LR obviously is not considering you waste about 20% of it preheating (or more). Yes, the laser rifle does us up a lot of ammo. Could you give me an example good standard and advanced fits for the amarr assault. I think the fits mentioned in your guide are outdated since the assault suits layouts were changed. I have not yet leveled up the laser rifle up past operation 2 because I am focusing on my core skills because they are not good enough. I want to know what to look forward to when I have leveled up my skills high enough. I use: Quote: Complex light damage modifier 'Templar' laser rifle Breach submachine gun/magsec smg/assault scrambler pistol Locus grenade Compact nanohive Enhanced ferroscale plates Enhanced armor repairer Basic armor repairer The way I see it is if I level up my CPU more I could replace the basic armor repairer with an enhanced armor repairer

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3966	Posted - 2014.09.04 02:35:00 - [41] - Quote Updated with revised STD and ADV Amarr assault fits! (The godfather of tactical logistics)
2k2y Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2014.09.04 09:53:00 - [42] - Quote I just wanted to mention a quick correction. You wrote "Assault A/1" instead of "Assault A/1-Series" as the name of the advanced amarr assault fit.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3966	Posted - 2014.09.04 11:33:00 - [43] - Quote 2k2y wrote: I just wanted to mention a quick correction. You wrote "Assault A/1" instead of "Assault A/1-Series" as the name of the advanced amarr assault fit. That's the name of it in my fittings list. Also, very picky. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
2k2y Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2014.09.04 11:39:00 - [44] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: 2k2y wrote: I just wanted to mention a quick correction. You wrote "Assault A/1" instead of "Assault A/1-Series" as the name of the advanced amarr assault fit. That's the name of it in my fittings list. Also, very picky. Oh, I see. I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3966	Posted - 2014.09.04 11:41:00 - [45] - Quote I am much harder to offend than that, lol. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
2k2y Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2014.09.04 11:45:00 - [46] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I am much harder to offend than that, lol. Okay so the preferred sidearm to use with the laer rifle is the submachine gun? I have been using the magsec smg lately and I am really liking it even more so than the smg. Have you tried it?
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3968	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:23:00 - [47] - Quote 2k2y wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: I am much harder to offend than that, lol. Okay so the preferred sidearm to use with the laer rifle is the submachine gun? I have been using the magsec smg lately and I am really liking it even more so than the smg. Have you tried it? Briefly, I didn't like it. The spool up annoys me. I've been using the SMG since beta, so I'm comfortable with it and have it specced out pretty well. Really people should use what they are most comfortable with. More specfically to your question though, my personal style, as you can see with my primary Commando setup, is to offset the weaknesses of my weapon pairings. The magsec is a longer range rail weapon, I don't need that paired up with the LR. If the target is outside 50-60m, they are getting one thing and one thing only: hot laz0r to the face. The big problem for me (and likely not just me) when using the LR is when people get inside optimal range. That's where the SMG wins out, and as an armor-based weapon it also works well finishing off the people who lose their shields bum rushing me. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
2k2y Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2014.09.05 11:22:00 - [48] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: 2k2y wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: I am much harder to offend than that, lol. Okay so the preferred sidearm to use with the laer rifle is the submachine gun? I have been using the magsec smg lately and I am really liking it even more so than the smg. Have you tried it? Briefly, I didn't like it. The spool up annoys me. I've been using the SMG since beta, so I'm comfortable with it and have it specced out pretty well. Really people should use what they are most comfortable with. More specfically to your question though, my personal style, as you can see with my primary Commando setup, is to offset the weaknesses of my weapon pairings. The magsec is a longer range rail weapon, I don't need that paired up with the LR. If the target is outside 50-60m, they are getting one thing and one thing only: hot laz0r to the face. The big problem for me (and likely not just me) when using the LR is when people get inside optimal range. That's where the SMG wins out, and as an armor-based weapon it also works well finishing off the people who lose their shields bum rushing me. I do think the smg is much better than the magsec smg in cqc. I used to use the breach submachine gun because I am quite inaccurate with the normal submachine gun. I like the magsec smg because it is faster than the breach submachine gun but it is not as fast as the normal submachine gun. For me, the extra range is just a nice perk of the weapon.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3977	Posted - 2014.09.05 11:55:00 - [49] - Quote 2k2y wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: 2k2y wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: I am much harder to offend than that, lol. Okay so the preferred sidearm to use with the laer rifle is the submachine gun? I have been using the magsec smg lately and I am really liking it even more so than the smg. Have you tried it? Briefly, I didn't like it. The spool up annoys me. I've been using the SMG since beta, so I'm comfortable with it and have it specced out pretty well. Really people should use what they are most comfortable with. More specfically to your question though, my personal style, as you can see with my primary Commando setup, is to offset the weaknesses of my weapon pairings. The magsec is a longer range rail weapon, I don't need that paired up with the LR. If the target is outside 50-60m, they are getting one thing and one thing only: hot laz0r to the face. The big problem for me (and likely not just me) when using the LR is when people get inside optimal range. That's where the SMG wins out, and as an armor-based weapon it also works well finishing off the people who lose their shields bum rushing me. I do think the smg is much better than the magsec smg in cqc. I used to use the breach submachine gun because I am quite inaccurate with the normal submachine gun. I like the magsec smg because it is faster than the breach submachine gun but it is not as fast as the normal submachine gun. For me, the extra range is just a nice perk of the weapon. I used the breach SMG for a while myself. It shares the same problems as most of the other breach weapons, the ROF is a little too slow and so the effective DPS is less than it should be. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
2k2y Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2014.09.05 12:03:00 - [50] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: 2k2y wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: 2k2y wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: I am much harder to offend than that, lol. Okay so the preferred sidearm to use with the laer rifle is the submachine gun? I have been using the magsec smg lately and I am really liking it even more so than the smg. Have you tried it? Briefly, I didn't like it. The spool up annoys me. I've been using the SMG since beta, so I'm comfortable with it and have it specced out pretty well. Really people should use what they are most comfortable with. More specfically to your question though, my personal style, as you can see with my primary Commando setup, is to offset the weaknesses of my weapon pairings. The magsec is a longer range rail weapon, I don't need that paired up with the LR. If the target is outside 50-60m, they are getting one thing and one thing only: hot laz0r to the face. The big problem for me (and likely not just me) when using the LR is when people get inside optimal range. That's where the SMG wins out, and as an armor-based weapon it also works well finishing off the people who lose their shields bum rushing me. I do think the smg is much better than the magsec smg in cqc. I used to use the breach submachine gun because I am quite inaccurate with the normal submachine gun. I like the magsec smg because it is faster than the breach submachine gun but it is not as fast as the normal submachine gun. For me, the extra range is just a nice perk of the weapon. I used the breach SMG for a while myself. It shares the same problems as most of the other breach weapons, the ROF is a little too slow and so the effective DPS is less than it should be. I have one last question: Is it worth leveling up the laser rifle proficiency? Would it have any visible effect? I was thinking of leveling the proficiency of the two weapons I want to be using on a permanent basis (Laser rifle, magsec smg) after getting electronics 5 but I doubt the usefulness of the proficiency skill for anti-shield weapons like the laser rifle.

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3979	Posted - 2014.09.06 03:23:00 - [51] - Quote Good observation. A few months ago i would say wait on it until you max your cores and such, and TBH maxing cores has always been the way to go (to level 4 at least). But, with Rattati seemingly making actual progress in restoring shield tanking as a viable option, I'd say it's reasonable to go to level 2-3, which is also where you can unlock Viktors upcoming officer LR, should you ever get one. Higher than that is definitely not worth it. I actually don't have any weapons to prof 5, I think I have the CR and SMG to 4, and about 5 others, including the LR, to level 3. Omnisoldier FTW. (That's actually one of the old logi schools of thought from beta, we should be a jack of all trades to really support the team in any situation that may arise.) (The godfather of tactical logistics)
2k2y Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2014.09.06 11:16:00 - [52] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Good observation. A few months ago i would say wait on it until you max your cores and such, and TBH maxing cores has always been the way to go (to level 4 at least). But, with Rattati seemingly making actual progress in restoring shield tanking as a viable option, I'd say it's reasonable to go to level 2-3, which is also where you can unlock Viktors upcoming officer LR, should you ever get one. Higher than that is definitely not worth it. I actually don't have any weapons to prof 5, I think I have the CR and SMG to 4, and about 5 others, including the LR, to level 3. Omnisoldier FTW. (That's actually one of the old logi schools of thought from beta, we should be a jack of all trades to really support the team in any situation that may arise.) I know core skills are important but it will take me a some months to max them. I have scrambler rifle and rail rifle up to proficiency 4 but I do not like using those two weapons. No more leaving people with 0 armor and shield with proficiency up(hopefully). I think I am going to level up proficiency for the laser rifle up to 3 and the magsec smg up to 4. I think that wil take 4 weeks not including any future skill point events then I can finally start maxing out my core skills. Anyway, thanks for the advice.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4195	Posted - 2014.10.16 04:13:00 - [53] - Quote b u m p (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5618	Posted - 2014.10.25 23:35:00 - [54] - Quote Ironically enough I won the officer laser rifle and named it while being in the "Gentleman's Club." Alliance. I'll add more to this thread when I get home don't want to type many paragraphs from my phone at work. EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs 350Mil ISK
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.10.29 04:21:00 - [55] - Quote I would like to add my style of laser rifle use i call it the hop scotch .. The thought behind this is suppression no ammo wasted. When I target my Foes I don't precooked at all I bounce the beam from enemy to enemy as they run for cover ..often the last 3 or 4 the beam touches will die ..meanwhile the rest are wounded and recovering thus completely I capable of poking there heads out to attack me while I reload without dieing ...i also find hopscotch in lowers the number of people who close on Me ..again because they need to recover This us how I approach clusters From habit of fighting nyain San and dueling old friends long gone ..my 1 v1 is different ..i don't give you a target until om cooked what I'll do us slide behind cover or out if line if sight after targeting you..then come out of cover firing at you...as if cover were not there ..i use my strafe to make contact and boom vaporized ...back off out of line reload back into line again to kill again ..using this method I've soloed multiple skilled rr users alone in weaker gear (generally I run stnd or adv assault with mlt lr ) no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.10.29 04:25:00 - [56] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Ironically enough I won the officer laser rifle and named it while being in the "Gentlemen's Club." Alliance. I'll add more to this thread when I get home don't want to type many paragraphs from my phone at work. Meh first officer event was a sham that excluded a good portion of the playerbase ..i didnt consider it a real event then done know but hey u got the bragging rights. The first officer event was a contest of WALLET SIZE LOL On a side nor I really hope I get to duel you someday I rarely see anyone on the enemy side running lr ..i never see anyone stomping with it when I play no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4313	Posted - 2014.10.29 12:11:00 - [57] - Quote Lol. I managed to kill Malleus mallificorum in a LR duel during the event (he won 3/2 though) and I was thisfuckingclose to killing Viktor with my Templar LR but some bastard with a militia AR of all things landed one round and got credit for the kill! I honestly think I've never been angrier at a blueberry. So much rage! (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 305	Posted - 2014.10.29 12:25:00 - [58] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Lol. I managed to kill Malleus mallificorum in a LR duel during the event (he won 3/2 though) and I was thisfuckingclose to killing Viktor with my Templar LR but some bastard with a militia AR of all things landed one round and got credit for the kill! I honestly think I've never been angrier at a blueberry. So much rage! I gots fan mail somewhere from him lol no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 305	Posted - 2014.10.29 12:25:00 - [59] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Lol. I managed to kill Malleus mallificorum in a LR duel during the event (he won 3/2 though) and I was thisfuckingclose to killing Viktor with my Templar LR but some bastard with a militia AR of all things landed one round and got credit for the kill! I honestly think I've never been angrier at a blueberry. So much rage! The only time I've ever seen Victor on enemy side he wasn't running lr no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13936	Posted - 2014.10.29 23:25:00 - [60] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Lol. I managed to kill Malleus mallificorum in a LR duel during the event (he won 3/2 though) and I was thisfuckingclose to killing Viktor with my Templar LR but some bastard with a militia AR of all things landed one round and got credit for the kill! I honestly think I've never been angrier at a blueberry. So much rage! The only time I've ever seen Victor on enemy side he wasn't running lr Never fought him either. But have fought Aero to a stand off where we ran out of ammo and time, have run against Levithunder, did fight Mortedeamor once...... walked away crying then came back in a tank..... GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko



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