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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2575	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:24:00 - [1] - Quote The GentlemanGÇÖs Weapon, a comprehensive guide to the Laser Rifle. (in progress) Foreword : First off, the GÇ£properGÇ¥ spelling is laz0r, so we will be using that terminology from here on out. Second, I am not the best LR user out there, so any additional feedback from the real experts like lowratehitman, green living, mortedeamor etc.,, are welcome. I also must acknowledge Musta Tornius and his team for their exhaustive work on testing the LR. A few unanswered questions remain post-1.8 but they have done a very impressive job so far. The LR is easily one of the most unique weapons in Dust; fun to use, hard to master and very skill intensive in many ways. Ever since I saw it called GÇ£the gentlemans weaponGÇ¥ by Redbleach Lesangiant, IGÇÖve also always had this image in my mind that it was the preferred weapon of an aristocratic gentleman officer of the Empire. As itGÇÖs such a beautiful weapon {link??} ItGÇÖs hard to argue otherwise. Despite being nerfed several times, It has a fanatical (no pun intended) or cult following in Dust that no other weapon can match. Why is it so revered? While the challenge and fun of using it are great, what really drives people to master the weapon is its awesome potential. No other light weapon can match the LRGÇÖs raw power and ability to quickly kill multiple enemies. To wit: Musta Tornius wrote: We do know there is no damage cap on the laser. At least not one that is achievable. It was the unquestioned king of the battlefield for significant portions of beta. There was a persistent conditioned response in many beta veterans to run like hell the second they heard that unmistakable deep hum and saw the beam flash by. I know I always hear Graham Chapman yelling GÇ£Run away! Run away!GÇ¥ {link} in my head when someone is mowing down people with the LR. Introduction: Why doesnGÇÖt everyone use it if itGÇÖs so amazing? What keeps laz0rs in check (besides that spawn of Satan himself, the Rail rifle... though it seems to have fallen out of favor) is the degree of difficulty involved in actually applying the full damage output effectively. This is no scrubs best friend, spray and pray weapon we are using here. If you donGÇÖt know how to use the LR you will get killed (or kill yourself!) early and often. As I mentioned before, Musta Tornius and Team Fairy DUST have done a far better job of testing and outlining the detailed mechanics of the weapon than I ever could. You can read it HERE {link}. My goal is not to be excessively technical and focus more on the practical aspects of actually using the LR. We will go over how to correctly fire the weapon, proper positioning, and finally touch on suit fittings at the end, where some of the more technical stuff will also be discussed. There are two things every LR user needs to know/master to be effective: Preheating and Positioning. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2575	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:24:00 - [2] - Quote reserved. Don't reply yet you scoundrels! I ran out of room with my last guide! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2575	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:25:00 - [3] - Quote reserved "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2575	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:26:00 - [4] - Quote reserved "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2575	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:27:00 - [5] - Quote reserved!! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2575	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:28:00 - [6] - Quote reserved... "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2575	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:29:00 - [7] - Quote this should about do it "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Jax GG the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 84	Posted - 2014.04.04 17:27:00 - [8] - Quote Used to love the LR in the earlier versions of the game and have returned and ploughed all my SP Into other weapons now.......... Wasn't missing it until I read this! Regards
Musta Tornius Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.04.05 13:22:00 - [9] - Quote That's a pretty comprehensive guide for a single weapon, well done OP, have some likes! DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2588	Posted - 2014.04.05 15:15:00 - [10] - Quote Musta Tornius wrote: That's a pretty comprehensive guide for a single weapon, well done OP, have some likes! Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black in the best way possible, Musta! You made my job immeasurably easier! o7 (Don't worry, I'll fix the links to your thread later today. Got sidetracked, kinda forgot that one crucial part, lol.) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!

RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 879	Posted - 2014.04.05 15:34:00 - [11] - Quote I don't think that a gentleman will use that "7331-speak". I remember using a laser on my logi-fit in chromo (no not the viziam) for open maps (might try that again)...it's doable if your teammates know what they are doing. It won't be as easy as the other rifles but to not use a LR on any other logi suit is a bit exagerated.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2588	Posted - 2014.04.05 17:14:00 - [12] - Quote RKKR wrote: I remember using a laser on my logi-fit in chromo (no not the viziam) for open maps (might try that again)...it's doable if your teammates know what they are doing. It won't be as easy as the other rifles but to not use a LR on any other logi suit is a bit exagerated. Fair enough, though I wouldn't exactly call you the "target audience" of the thread, lol. John Demonsbane wrote: While there are exceptions to every rule, I agree with RedBleach LeSangiant's advice: Do not use the LR on any other logi suit, the lack of a sidearm will be crippling. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 883	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:04:00 - [13] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: RKKR wrote: I remember using a laser on my logi-fit in chromo (no not the viziam) for open maps (might try that again)...it's doable if your teammates know what they are doing. It won't be as easy as the other rifles but to not use a LR on any other logi suit is a bit exagerated. Fair enough, though I wouldn't exactly call you the "target audience" of the thread, lol. John Demonsbane wrote: While there are exceptions to every rule, I agree with RedBleach LeSangiant's advice: Do not use the LR on any other logi suit, the lack of a sidearm will be crippling. Just did a field-test, it's quite nice to protect an area where the enemy has to run into the open. I even did OK in some CQC situations by preheating or grill some scouts. Not even a squad to back me up, I think the 1.8 changes make this a valuable asset for logis, maybe not to start out with, but a valuable option. The exception to the rule? Maybe if it was pre-1.8.
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 474	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:53:00 - [14] - Quote It's weird, the Laser Rifle has this style of popping out of cover and back in while fighting at a long range that works extremely well with Caldari suits, but only has a bonus on Amarr suits which would rather favor a stare-down-your-face approach to a fight. Personally I think the LR's damage amplification should work off it's heat level. Until then I will continue to use it on Caldari suits. At 80-100 meters nothing can hurt you enough to strip off the shields and by the time the LR has cooled down you're already regenerating health. I'll just cover my eyes in the fitting screen. The baby-blue and holy-gold on the same suit just doesn't make any sense at all.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2596	Posted - 2014.04.05 22:43:00 - [15] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: It's weird, the Laser Rifle has this style of popping out of cover and back in while fighting at a long range that works extremely well with Caldari suits, but only has a bonus on Amarr suits which would rather favor a stare-down-your-face approach to a fight. Personally I think the LR's damage amplification should work off it's heat level. Until then I will continue to use it on Caldari suits. At 80-100 meters nothing can hurt you enough to strip off the shields and by the time the LR has cooled down you're already regenerating health. I'll just cover my eyes in the fitting screen. The baby-blue and holy-gold on the same suit just doesn't make any sense at all. We Amarr are all about holy light and constant application of unrelenting force. Personally, I love the mechanic, it makes it unique. Burst firing at maximum heat is kinda dull. This way you have to work for it. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 475	Posted - 2014.04.05 22:52:00 - [16] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: We Amarr are all about holy light and constant application of unrelenting force. Personally, I love the mechanic, it makes it unique. Burst firing at maximum heat is kinda dull. This way you have to work for it. The problem is that the holy light of justice seems to be low on battery. Every couple of seconds you have to get back into cover and wait for the almighty power of the divine to catch its breath. I think it'd be more appropriate to see our zealous templars charge the enemy in the open field with bright fervour glowing from their eyes and (the cooling partition of) their weapons.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2597	Posted - 2014.04.05 23:30:00 - [17] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: We Amarr are all about holy light and constant application of unrelenting force. Personally, I love the mechanic, it makes it unique. Burst firing at maximum heat is kinda dull. This way you have to work for it. The problem is that the holy light of justice seems to be low on battery. Every couple of seconds you have to get back into cover and wait for the almighty power of the divine to catch its breath. I think it'd be more appropriate to see our zealous templars charge the enemy in the open field with bright fervour glowing from their eyes and (the cooling partition of) their weapons. Perhaps I can interest you in a scrambler rifle? Turning a corner and OHK a medium frame with a charged shot sounds like what you are looking for. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 476	Posted - 2014.04.05 23:39:00 - [18] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Perhaps I can interest you in a scrambler rifle? Turning a corner and OHK a medium frame with a charged shot sounds like what you are looking for. An Amarr Assault A/1 with a CRW-04 was my go-to fitting for the heavy lifting ever since it the combo was available, but thanks for the offer anyways.
Sourdough Muffins Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.04.06 09:33:00 - [19] - Quote This guide was very very helpful. You have my thanks. Going to slap the LR on my Amarr Commando suit with ScR now. Cheers!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2675	Posted - 2014.04.19 20:51:00 - [20] - Quote Still having trouble with the Amarr assault bonus. I should not be overheating so easily... "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2959	Posted - 2014.05.01 13:40:00 - [21] - Quote MInor edits made. More importantly the Amarr assault bonus is up and running! It is a beautiful beautiful thing. I've literally done nothing but run LR in ambush for the 2 weeks since they fixed it. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2959	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:07:00 - [22] - Quote Thanks for reading the guide. Like my characters, it has been archived on a sleeper ship and will be reactivated if we ever reach the PS4. o7 o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2044	Posted - 2014.05.18 16:28:00 - [23] - Quote Quick info bump, Mr. Demonsbane may be in stasis for the time being but his work is valuable regardless. Cheers, Cross SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3539	Posted - 2014.06.22 00:21:00 - [24] - Quote Brought it back. This may or may not have anything to do with my ongoing campaign to get Rattati to make an officer LR and name it the "Demonsbane's" BTH-71 Laser Rifle (I would also settle for a AUR variant to be named that) (The godfather of tactical logistics) Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10968	Posted - 2014.06.22 03:19:00 - [25] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Brought it back. This may or may not have anything to do with my ongoing campaign to get Rattati to make an officer LR and name it the "Demonsbane's" BTH-71 Laser Rifle (I would also settle for a AUR variant to be named that) Why not a Yassavi Family AER-0 Laser Rifle or a "Adamance" TRU-3 Laser Rifle " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3542	Posted - 2014.06.22 11:51:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Brought it back. This may or may not have anything to do with my ongoing campaign to get Rattati to make an officer LR and name it the "Demonsbane's" BTH-71 Laser Rifle (I would also settle for a AUR variant to be named that) Why not a Yassavi Family AER-0 Laser Rifle or a "Adamance" TRU-3 Laser Rifle Because this is my thread. But.. I am a generous OP, I will allow you to submit those as consideration for aurum variant names in the event the Demonsbane's officer variant becomes reality. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10998	Posted - 2014.06.22 20:55:00 - [27] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Brought it back. This may or may not have anything to do with my ongoing campaign to get Rattati to make an officer LR and name it the "Demonsbane's" BTH-71 Laser Rifle (I would also settle for a AUR variant to be named that) Why not a Yassavi Family AER-0 Laser Rifle or a "Adamance" TRU-3 Laser Rifle Because this is my thread. But.. I am a generous OP, I will allow you to submit those as consideration for aurum variant names in the event the Demonsbane's officer variant becomes reality. Don't worry John in the spirit of friendly rivalry I will ensure Aero gets a Laser Variant first! " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 3	Posted - 2014.06.22 21:15:00 - [28] - Quote Finally I can use that laz0r rifle I bought. Miss the old beta version though, all I used when it was added in, now I just have them sitting around (I always buy them) Also would like to see a 'Devil's Spawn' Rail Rifle ((I need to stop now) (damn it) Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3546	Posted - 2014.06.22 21:48:00 - [29] - Quote True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Brought it back. This may or may not have anything to do with my ongoing campaign to get Rattati to make an officer LR and name it the "Demonsbane's" BTH-71 Laser Rifle (I would also settle for a AUR variant to be named that) Why not a Yassavi Family AER-0 Laser Rifle or a "Adamance" TRU-3 Laser Rifle Because this is my thread. But.. I am a generous OP, I will allow you to submit those as consideration for aurum variant names in the event the Demonsbane's officer variant becomes reality. Don't worry John in the spirit of friendly rivalry I will ensure Aero gets a Laser Variant first! It's on like donkey kong (The godfather of tactical logistics)
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 3	Posted - 2014.06.23 00:33:00 - [30] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Brought it back. This may or may not have anything to do with my ongoing campaign to get Rattati to make an officer LR and name it the "Demonsbane's" BTH-71 Laser Rifle (I would also settle for a AUR variant to be named that) Why not a Yassavi Family AER-0 Laser Rifle or a "Adamance" TRU-3 Laser Rifle Because this is my thread. But.. I am a generous OP, I will allow you to submit those as consideration for aurum variant names in the event the Demonsbane's officer variant becomes reality. Don't worry John in the spirit of friendly rivalry I will ensure Aero gets a Laser Variant first! It's on like donkey kong Don't' crush me with your barrels! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.



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